Episode Description
In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Bill Van Kirk unpack the power of one simple question that can completely reframe your team meetings. They explore how great meetings balance important long-term growth with urgent real-time needs—and how to open every meeting with intentional care that builds trust and ownership.
If you’ve ever dreaded another calendar-clogging meeting, this episode will equip you to make them purposeful, people-focused, and genuinely productive.
Key Topics Covered
The one question that transforms every meeting
How to balance important vs. urgent issues
Why “teaching before trouble” prevents future crises
Key Quote
“Teaching important things at non-urgent times is exceptional leadership.” — Josh Denhart
Scripture References
Proverbs 15:22 – “Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.”
Philippians 2:4 – “Let each of you look not only to his own interests, but also to the interests of others.”
Takeaway
Healthy meetings begin with genuine care. When leaders ask what would make the time a “win” for others, they create space for shared goals and stronger teams. Combine that empathy with intentional teaching, and you’ll lead with both clarity and compassion.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart talks with Christen Clark, a seasoned children’s ministry leader and host of The Collide Kids Podcast, about transforming “crowd-control” volunteers into front-line disciple-makers. Together they unpack practical ways to train, position, and encourage these often-overlooked team members so that every large-group experience thrives.
If you’ve ever felt your program unravel during transitions or wished adults in the room would engage before things go sideways, this episode gives you a simple framework to elevate the whole experience.
Key Topics Covered
• Define the role: presence + engagement, not “warm bodies.”
• Why engagement is contagious — adults model the room’s posture.
• The A-C-E framework: Affirm, Coach, Equip your volunteers every time.
Key Quote
“They’re not the backup. They are the front line.” — Christen Clark
Scripture References
2 Peter 1 : 12-13 – “Stir them up by way of reminder.”
Philippians 2 : 3-4 – Serving others with humble, attentive presence.
Takeaway
Recast “crowd control” as discipleship. Assign zones, learn names, close the distance, and model engagement. Then, weekly A-C-E your team: affirm their purpose, coach for the plan, equip with simple behaviors (proximity, participation, gentle prompts). The result is a calmer room, a clearer message, and better retention.
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Christen Clark is a Christian speaker, worship leader, and children’s ministry veteran with over 17 years of experience serving in the local church. She is the creator and host of The Collide Kids Podcast — a fun, faith-filled weekly show for kids and families launched in 2020 that helps parents and leaders spark spiritual conversations at home.
Christen has served as a children’s ministry leader, worship leader, and now works as a ministry consultant helping churches engage the next generation in faith. A graduate of Dallas Theological Seminary (2024), she lives in Cumming, Georgia, with her husband Richard and their two children.
Her warm, creative style and gospel-centered approach make her a trusted voice for parents, pastors, and volunteers alike.
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🔗 Podcast: collidekidspodcast.buzzsprout.com
🌐 Website: christenclark.org
🎧 Apple Podcasts: The Collide Kids Podcast
📸 Instagram: @christenclark | @collidekidspod
About Christen Clark
Episode Description
In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Vance Martin get practical about training that lives beyond you. They unpack a simple, reproducible path—Model, Mentor, Multiply—so your team grows without burning you out.
If you’ve ever felt the weight of doing it all yourself, this episode will equip and inspire you to build people, not just programs—and to see legacy while you’re still there.
Key Topics Covered
Model – Be the trail guide and invest in a person, not just a task.
Mentor – Pull back the curtain and teach them to guide others.
Multiply – Train multipliers and become a development “grandparent.”
Key Quote
“Your legacy doesn’t have to wait—train for fruit that remains.”
Scripture References
2 Timothy 2:2 – “Pass it on to faithful people who will be able to teach others also.”
Ephesians 4:11–12 – Equip the saints for the work of ministry.
Takeaway
Don’t lower the goal; build the steps. Start with one person. Keep meeting. Keep modeling. Then mentor them to invest in someone else. Over months—not days—you’ll see a self-sustaining team and a living legacy.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Vance Martin unpack how to train volunteers with simple, repeatable ministry checklists. They move from “Iron Chef” leadership to boxed-cake repeatability, offering a step-by-step way to build clarity, confidence, and consistency across your teams.
If you’ve ever felt stuck carrying Sundays on your back, this episode will equip and inspire you with lightweight systems that anyone can follow.
Key Topics Covered
Defining a Ministry Checklist – Turning complex tasks into clear steps
Why Checklists Work – Confidence, accountability, and multiplication
How to Build Them – Record steps, test, condense, and “dummy-proof before you laminate”
Key Quote
“Think once. Autopilot forever.”
Scripture References
1 Corinthians 14:40 – “But all things should be done decently and in order.”
Exodus 18:17–23 – Jethro helps Moses create repeatable systems for sustainable leadership.
Luke 16:10 – Faithful in little, faithful in much.
Takeaway
Volunteers thrive when the win is clear. A concise checklist turns anxiety into action, builds trust, and makes excellence repeatable. Train with steps anyone can follow, then let the system—not your presence—carry Sunday forward.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Bill Van Kirk kick off October’s focus on Training Volunteers. They unpack what real training is, why it matters, and how any leader can begin immediately. They explore the culture you carry, the power of qualifying people, and why training is the bridge between enlistment and retention for healthy teams.
If you’ve ever felt stuck running a “Swiss cheese” ministry where volunteers slip through the cracks, this episode will equip and inspire you with practical next steps to train with purpose and retain with joy.
Key Topics Covered
Definition of training – Forming habits, thoughts, and behaviors through instruction
Train vs. drain – Why skipping training leaves people exhausted
Qualifying people – A pathway to confidence, clarity, and care
Key Quote
“Train is putting in; drain is leaking out. Be the leader who puts in.”
Scripture References
Ephesians 4:11–13 – “to equip the saints for the work of ministry…”
1 Corinthians 11:1 – “Be imitators of me, as I am of Christ.”
Takeaway
Don’t hand a mic to an untrained volunteer and hope for the best. Identify your weakest area, gather the faithful few, meet right after a service, ask good questions, and co-build a simple plan. Training is discipleship in motion—and it keeps good people for the long haul.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart sits down with Mark, a children’s pastor 66 days into a new role. They unpack how “front-loading with relationships” can compress the storming phase and accelerate health, trust, and momentum. They explore a practical, people-first playbook that any ministry can adopt to move from chaos to clarity.
If you’ve ever felt stuck in the first 18 months of a role, this episode will equip and inspire you with a concrete path to build trust quickly and lead with pastoral presence.
Key Topics Covered
Storming → Norming → Performing—why most leaders get stuck and how to move through it fast
A 50-minute one-on-one template that builds trust and surfaces “hidden gold” in your team
From bathroom duty to stage leadership—redeploying gifts through pastoral listening
Key Quote
“Take off the recruiting hat and put on the pastor’s hat.”
Scripture References
Galatians 6:2 – “Bear one another’s burdens, and so fulfill the law of Christ.”
Romans 12:10 – “Be devoted to one another in love.”
Takeaway
You can’t shortcut time, but you can accelerate trust. Schedule focused one-on-ones, pray specifically, cast a clear ‘Egypt → Wilderness → Promise’ vision, and invite people into meaningful roles aligned with their gifts. Ministry speeds up when relationships go deep.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Vance Martin return for Part 2 of their two-part series on the 10 essentials every team needs from its leader.
In Part 1, they explored communication, community, change, coaching, and care. Now they complete the framework with the final five essentials that build trust, stability, and long-term retention in volunteer teams.
If you’ve ever wanted a clear blueprint for what keeps people engaged and motivated in ministry, this episode finishes the picture.
Key Topics Covered
Credibility – authenticity that earns trust
Conclusions – decisive leadership that builds confidence
Conflict Management – why healthy teams deal with dirt
Celebration – what you celebrate, you cultivate
Character – being the model you want mirrored
Key Quote
“People move toward the applause. What you celebrate, you cultivate.” – Josh Denhart
Scripture References
Matthew 5:37 – “Let your ‘Yes’ be ‘Yes,’ and your ‘No,’ ‘No.’”
1 Corinthians 11:1 – “Follow me as I follow Christ.”
Takeaway
The final 5 essentials—credibility, conclusions, conflict management, celebration, and character—complete the leadership framework for retention. When leaders embody these qualities, volunteers don’t just stay; they flourish.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart is joined by Vance Martin from Slingshot Group for Part 1 of a two-part series on the 10 essentials every team needs from its leader.
They lay the foundation with the relationship vs. results quadrant—helping leaders assess whether their teams are functioning like small groups, independent contractors, mercenaries, or thriving cultures. From there, Josh and Vance unpack the first 5 essentials that create healthy, long-lasting teams.
If you’ve ever struggled with retention or wondered why volunteers quietly slip away, this episode gives you the first half of the roadmap.
Key Topics Covered
Communication – Why two-way connection is the gift of leadership
Community – How belonging fuels resilience
Change – Leading teams toward a better future
Coaching – Moving beyond cheerleading to growth
Care – Knowing their world to lead their work
Key Quote
“People don’t quit ministries. People quit leaders.” – Josh Denhart
Scripture References
Proverbs 27:23 – “Know well the condition of your flocks, and give attention to your herds.”
Ecclesiastes 4:9–10 – “Two are better than one… If either of them falls down, one can help the other up.”
Takeaway
The first 5 essentials—communication, community, change, coaching, and care—are what transform volunteers from short-term helpers into long-term partners. Miss these, and people leave. Live them, and your team thrives.
Call to Action
We hope this episode equips you to build healthier teams. Don’t miss Part 2, where Josh and Vance share the remaining 5 essentials.
Episode Description
In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Bill Van Kirk break down a simple, powerful retention lever: align volunteers with their giftedness. They explore how “ability + willingness” fuels longevity and how a SHAPE conversation helps leaders seat the right people in the right roles for healthy teams.
If you’ve ever felt stuck replacing the same volunteers month after month, this episode will equip and inspire you with a practical path to keep the “good ones” God has already provided.
Key Topics Covered
Defining giftedness vs. general ability – why the difference matters for retention
Jim Collins’ “right people, right seats” applied to church teams
The SHAPE conversation: Spiritual gifts, Heart, Abilities, Personality, Experiences—how to run it this month
Key Quote
“Wrong seat doesn’t mean wrong person—shift the seat, not the bus.”
Scripture References
1 Corinthians 12:4–7 – “Now there are varieties of gifts, but the same Spirit… To each is given the manifestation of the Spirit for the common good.”
Romans 12:6 – “Having gifts that differ according to the grace given to us, let us use them…”
Takeaway
Retention starts with alignment. When leaders intentionally discover gifts and place people accordingly, willingness rises, joy increases, and ministries stabilize. Use SHAPE to learn a volunteer’s design, then move them to a role where they’ll thrive—and stay.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Bill Van Kirk unpack the vital topic of volunteer retention. They explore why keeping volunteers isn’t just about filling slots, but about discipleship, stewardship, and honoring the people God has already entrusted to your ministry.
If you’ve ever felt exhausted by constant turnover or afraid of burning out your team, this episode will equip you with a fresh vision and practical tools for retention.
Key Topics Covered
Retention defined: what it really means to “keep” volunteers
Why serving is a spiritual life hack for discipleship
Practical use of the Five Love Languages for volunteer care
Key Quote
“Don’t let your ministry become the meat grinder for volunteers.”
Scripture References
Ephesians 4:11–12 – “...to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ”
Takeaway
Volunteer retention isn’t just a staffing strategy, it’s a discipleship pathway. When leaders steward their volunteers well—through encouragement, service, and personal care—they not only strengthen their ministry but also honor God.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Bill Van Kirk announce a new monthly, laser-focused content plan for ministry leaders. They outline a year-long scope and sequence—starting with volunteer retention—that aligns the podcast, newsletter, webinars, free resources, and courses into one cohesive system.
If you’ve ever felt scattered by competing priorities or stuck on the recruitment hamster wheel, this episode will equip and inspire you with a focused plan to build a ministry that keeps working—even when you’re not in the room.
Key Topics Covered
Retain First – Why closing the back door beats frantic recruitment
Content Saturation – One theme per month across podcast, guides, webinar, and course
Year at a Glance – From Retain and Train to Lead Meetings, Digital, and Multiply
Key Quote
“Success in ministry is not what you do. Success in ministry is what happens if you never came back.”
Scripture References
Ephesians 4:12 – “to equip the saints for the work of ministry, for building up the body of Christ”
2 Timothy 2:2 – “what you have heard from me… entrust to faithful people who will be able to teach others also”
Takeaway
Stop spreading your effort thin. Commit to one strategic focus each month and align every channel to reinforce it. Start with retention, then build systems for training, meetings, digital communication, and multiplication. Progress compounds when your inputs are coordinated.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart sits down with certified ministry coach Jodi Quinn. They explore the power of ministry coaching, offering practical encouragement for leaders who want to grow in faith, leadership, and life.
If you’ve ever felt alone in leadership or wondered if outside coaching could make a difference, this episode will equip and inspire you with practical stories and wisdom.
Key Topics Covered
Tailored Support – Coaching shaped to fit your context
The Power of Partnership – Growing together toward God’s call
Benefits for the Coach – Why pouring into others grows you too
Key Quote
"Coaching isn’t one size fits all. It’s about meeting people right where they are."
Scripture References
Proverbs 27:17 – "As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another."
Ecclesiastes 4:9 – "Two are better than one, because they have a good return for their labor."
Takeaway
Ministry coaching is more than content delivery — it’s a relationship built on trust, context, and mutual growth. A coach brings an outside perspective that helps leaders see clearly, act wisely, and stay healthy for the long haul.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart talks with Kathy Story—Family Ministry Pastor, seminary student, and 30-year ministry veteran. Kathy shares how tailored coaching empowered her to navigate a megachurch staff role, transition to a tiny church replant, and launch an innovative grand-parenting ministry.
If you’ve ever faced a major ministry pivot, this conversation will equip you with a proven framework to exit well and enter your next assignment with confidence.
Key Topics Covered
Leaving a Bless, Not a Mess – Practical steps to hand off your ministry with honor and clarity
Coaching for Every Context – How guidance looks different in a 300-kid ministry vs. a 40-member replant
Grandparenting Vision – Mobilizing older saints for legacy impact
Key Quote
“You are either going to leave a mess or leave a bless.”
Scripture References
Proverbs 27:17 – “As iron sharpens iron, so one person sharpens another.”
2 Timothy 2:2 – “Entrust to faithful people who will be able to teach others also.”
Takeaway
Coaching gives leaders objective insight, helping them exit with integrity, enter new assignments confidently, and multiply kingdom impact.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart talks with Assistant Pastor Ian Troll about the exact coaching conversations that helped Ian break ministry gridlock and land a promotion. They explore how intentional coaching turns roadblocks into launchpads, offering practical frameworks and real-life stories for leaders feeling sidelined.
If you’ve ever wondered why your best ideas stall out, this episode will equip you with a repeatable plan to gain traction and favor.
Key Topics Covered
From Plateau to Promotion – Mapping the journey from Children’s Director to Assistant Pastor
Pitching Upward – Why busy leaders approve clear, data-backed plans, not vague wishes
Bridging the Seminary Gap – Practical volunteer-management skills no class ever covered
Key Quote
“They don’t want to solve your problems. They want to approve well-thought-out plans.”
Scripture References
Proverbs 15:22 – “Plans fail for lack of counsel, but with many advisers they succeed.”
1 Thessalonians 5:11 – “Therefore encourage one another and build each other up, just as in fact you are doing.”
Takeaway
Coaching provides the outside perspective and confidence boost you need to craft persuasive strategies, secure leadership buy-in, and step into greater responsibility.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart welcomes certified Lead Ministry coach Kristi Williamsto dismantle the myth of Lone-Ranger leadership. They explore how solo ministry caps kingdom impact and outline a repeatable process for multiplying capable volunteers.
If you’ve ever felt exhausted because “everything lands on my desk,” this conversation will equip and inspire you with a proven framework for doing more—with more.
Key Topics Covered
Key Quote
“We need to stop robbing people of laying up treasure in heaven.”
Scripture References
Takeaway
Healthy ministries refuse to hog the ball. When leaders release decisions, effort, and connections to others, capacity expands and discipleship deepens.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart talks with Allison Bailey, a children’s ministry director whose life and leadership were transformed by targeted ministry coaching. They explore how a coach provides tailored guidance that multiplies leaders and prevents burnout, allowing ministries to thrive long after the leader steps away.
If you’ve ever felt stuck, stretched, or unsure how to scale healthy systems, this conversation will inspire you with practical next steps.
Key Topics Covered
Key Quote
"Success in ministry isn’t what happens when you’re there—it’s what happens if you left and never came back."
Scripture References
Takeaway
Coaching equips leaders to reproduce themselves, creating ministries that are people-focused, sustainable, and resilient. When you invest in a coach, you invest in every volunteer and family you serve.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh sits down with Lead Ministry Coach Aleshia to discuss the transformative power of coaching. They explore how personalized, one-on-one guidance goes beyond courses and content to help leaders navigate their most specific and pressing challenges.
If you've ever felt stuck, overwhelmed, or unsure how to apply good advice to your unique situation, this episode will equip and inspire you with a new perspective on getting the support you need.
Key Topics Covered
Tailored Support – Why "off-roading" from the plan is where the real coaching magic happens.
Aleshia's Journey – Her story of moving from a coachee to a coach and the lessons learned along the way.
The Power of Questions – How coaching helps leaders find their own answers instead of just receiving advice.
Key Quote
"[It's not my ministry map]. I'm not trying to give somebody my map of how I did ministry. It is helping them to draw their own map to ministry in that's right context and that comes through questions and the right asking the right questions."
Takeaway
Ministry coaching provides the objective, personalized, and relational support that leaders need to thrive, not just survive. It is one of the most effective investments a leader can make in their ministry and their personal well-being, offering clarity and confidence to lead effectively.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart and Josh Zello discuss the transformative impact of ministry coaching. They explore how personalized support helps leaders grow in faith, personal development, and their church careers, offering real-life stories and practical takeaways for navigating ministry challenges.
If you've ever questioned how to get an outside perspective on your ministry, or felt the need for tailored guidance beyond general resources, this episode will equip and inspire you with insights into the unique benefits of one-on-one coaching.
Key Topics Covered
Defining Ministry Coaching – Understanding tailored support and holistic personal and professional development for ministry leaders.
Benefits of Coaching in Practice – How customized coaching led to significant growth in ministry engagement and team effectiveness.
Navigating Complex Situations – A compelling story of how coaching provided a strategic approach to a challenging church-wide childcare issue.
Why Ministry Leaders Need a Coach – The unique value of an outside perspective and a trusted, confidential resource for life and ministry.
Key Quote
"Coaching for me is this plethora of life experiences both in and out of the church and the collective kind of 50 years of, you know, thought and process that all comes together to go, wow, what would, what would be a good, a good thing?" – Josh Denhart
Scripture References
2 Timothy 2:2 – “The things that you have heard from me in the presence of many witnesses, pass them on to others who will be able to pass them on to others as well.”
Takeaway
Ministry coaching provides invaluable, tailored support that extends beyond professional development to encompass a leader's entire life. By offering an objective perspective and practical strategies, coaching empowers individuals to tackle complex challenges, foster thriving teams, and effectively live out their calling with greater intentionality and less personal stress.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart sits down with Rob Quinn—family-ministry pastor and Lead Ministry coach—to expose the silent epidemic of youth-ministry burnout. They unpack practical coaching tools that turn frantic activity into focused, fruitful service.
If you’ve ever wondered whether the youth-ministry hamster wheel will ever slow down, this conversation equips you with a blueprint to stop burnout cold.
Key Topics Covered
Key Quote
“They are burning out faster than anything—and it’s all because they don’t know how to do this stuff.” Coaching Podcast (Rob Q…
Scripture References
Takeaway
Stop carrying youth ministry alone. Coaching provides perspective, tried-and-true systems, and accountability so you can lead from health—not hurry.
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In this episode of the Lead Ministry Podcast, Josh Denhart sits down with Shelby Honeycutt to explore how ministry coaching can help leaders escape the endless “do-more” cycle. They unpack practical ways to trade frantic activity for focused, fruitful service.
If you’ve ever felt trapped on the ministry hamster wheel, this episode will equip and inspire you with a clear path to sustainable impact.
Key Topics Covered
Key Quote
“Leaders are learners. If I keep growing, my team can keep growing too.”
Scripture References
Takeaway
You don’t need more hours in the week—you need systems, support, and outside perspective. Coaching helps you focus on what only you can do while equipping others to carry the mission forward.
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