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The ICCT Podcast
International Centre for Counter-Terrorism
21 episodes
8 hours ago
The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism (ICCT) is a think-and-do tank based in The Hague, Netherlands. We provide research, policy advice, training and other solutions to support better counter-terrorism policies and practices worldwide. We also contribute to the scientific and public debates in the fields of counter-terrorism and countering violent extremism, notably through our publications and events.
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The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism (ICCT) is a think-and-do tank based in The Hague, Netherlands. We provide research, policy advice, training and other solutions to support better counter-terrorism policies and practices worldwide. We also contribute to the scientific and public debates in the fields of counter-terrorism and countering violent extremism, notably through our publications and events.
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Episodes (20/21)
The ICCT Podcast
There's No Community Without Security: the Impact of anti-Semitism in Europe

With an increasing number of anti-Semitic attacks all-over Europe, this podcast episode aims at shedding light on ICCT’s SENTINEL project which is led by SACC – the security arm of the EJC: European Jewish Congress.

In this episode, Ophir Revach and Kacper Rekawek discuss the reality and daily workloads of the individuals and groups (mixing professionals and volunteers) responsible for the security and protection of Jewish communities around Europe (around 1 million people in total). They look at this issue in the light of the events of 7 October 2023 and answer the question on whether much has changed in this field over the last 2 years.

Moreover, they demonstrate how the security of the aforementioned communities is intertwined with the developments related to the terrorist threat to Europe as both jihadi but also extreme-right attackers continue to target Jewish installations and the Jewish community in Europe.

Finally, they underscore how organisations such as SACC are now effectively looking after the security of thousands of installations as the plotters are seeking ever softer targets to strike at.

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6 months ago
33 minutes 47 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
War on Ukraine: Foreign Fighters, Doxxing and (State) Terrorism

The 27th of February 2025 is the 3rd anniversary of the founding of the International Legion for the Defence of Ukraine. On this day, ICCT publishes a podcast with Donald Bowser, a Ukraine hand and one with a front row seat to the Legion’s development and evolution. In the podcast, he also reflects on the issue of (extremist) doxing of foreigners involved in supporting Ukraine and how it subsequently leads to more Russian state terrorism targeting Ukraine and the EU.

Donald Bowser has more than 30 years of experience with and in Ukraine. He helped to put the country’s anti-corruption infrastructure in place after the beginning of the Russo-Ukrainian war in 2014 and delivered non-lethal assistance to different Ukrainian units since the beginning of the full scale war in 2022.

He joined ICCT to talk about his experiences with foreign fighters in Ukraine and doxxing by a state actor, Russia, because of his involvement on the side of Ukraine in the war.

This podcast is released within the framework of the ANTI-DOX project in which the ICCT is joined by Reporters’ Foundation. The project is supported by the European Media and Information Fund (EMIF) which is managed by the Celeste Gulbenkian Foundation. 

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8 months ago
44 minutes 13 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 3: What are the legal and governance implications of using AI in counterterrorism?

"The Role of AI in (Counter-)Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that explores the role of artificial intelligence in the security space, and specifically how it relates to terrorism and counter-terrorism. This series considers how AI poses a new type of threat but also offers new opportunities to actors in the global security space – through conversations with practitioners, academics and policy-makers. Our final episode will look at the legal and governance implications of using AI. Together with Irakli Beridze, Head of the Centre for Artificial Intelligence and Robotics at UNICRI and Els de Busser, Assistant Professor Cyber Security Governance, we will consider the legal and governmental considerations of AI in national security. Are current legal and governance approaches fit for purpose in a world where terrorists may start using AI? What regulations and ethical considerations should we take into account, and what would be necessary to foster international collaboration in this area?

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11 months ago
44 minutes 41 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 2: How are terrorists exploiting AI?

"The Role of AI in (Counter-)Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that explores the role of artificial intelligence in the security space, and specifically how it relates to terrorism and counter-terrorism. This series considers how AI poses a new type of threat but also offers new opportunities to actors in the global security space – through conversations with practitioners, academics and policy-makers. The second episode features a conversation with Naureen Chowdhury Fink, the Executive Director at the Global Internet Forum to Counter Terrorism (GIFCT), and Professor Stephen Baele, an expert on the role of AI in extremism. Together, they will explore whether and how terrorists are currently exploiting AI, which actors have already used AI and for what purposes, and they will dive into the kinds of threats and risks this could pose.

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11 months ago
58 minutes 52 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 1: What does AI mean for the security space? An introduction

"The Role of AI in (Counter-)Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that explores the role of artificial intelligence in the security space, and specifically how it relates to terrorism and counter-terrorism. This series considers how AI poses a new type of threat but also offers new opportunities to actors in the global security space – through conversations with practitioners, academics and policy-makers.

In the first episode of this podcast series, we welcome Professor Tim Watson, Director of Defence and National Security at The Alan Turing Institute and David Wells, global security consultant. They will introduce the role of artificial intelligence in national security, explore questions about AI’s impact, challenges and opportunities, and discuss how AI might influence the threat landscape in Europe and beyond.

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11 months ago
34 minutes 11 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 5: Countering anti-institutional extremism in North America

“Anti-Institutional Extremism: Causes and Responses” is an ICCT podcast series that explores forms of extremism that oppose the government and the perceived oppression from a globalised elite, often fueled by conspiracy narratives and disinformation. This series analyses what anti-institutional extremism looks like in North America and Europe today, and how it can be addressed and countered — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In this fifth and last episode, we speak to Ian Moss, Deputy Coordinator for the Bureau of Counterterrorism at the US State Department, overseeing Countering Violent Extremism and Terrorist Detentions. Mr Moss describes the threat landscape today and how anti-institutional extremism fits into this. He expands on violent extremism motivated by racial and ethnic issues (REMVE), by the loss of faith in government and key institutions such as health. He analyses how the U.S. is trying to counter anti-institutional extremism and how it could work with its European partners to address it better.

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1 year ago
39 minutes 4 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 4: Countering anti-institutional extremism in Europe

“Anti-Institutional Extremism: Causes and Responses” is an ICCT podcast series that explores forms of extremism that oppose the government and the perceived oppression from a globalised elite, often fueled by conspiracy narratives and disinformation. This series analyses what anti-institutional extremism looks like in North America and Europe today, and how it can be addressed and countered — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In this fourth episode, we speak to Erik Akerboom, Director General of the Dutch domestic intelligence service, the General Intelligence and Security Service (AIVD), since May 2020.

Mr Akerboom seeks to provide a definition of anti-institutional extremism from the AIVD perspective, to explain the unique challenges for national intelligence services to counter this type of extremism and to analyse the potential legal implications. He also dives into an extensive and public report recently published by AIVD on anti-institutional extremism in the Netherlands.  

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1 year ago
26 minutes 33 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 3: Anti-institutional extremism in Europe

“Anti-Institutional Extremism: Causes and Responses” is an ICCT podcast series that explores forms of extremism that oppose the government and the perceived oppression from a globalised elite, often fueled by conspiracy narratives and disinformation. This series analyses what anti-institutional extremism looks like in North America and Europe today, and how it can be addressed and countered — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers. In this third episode, we speak to Julia Ebner, a Senior Research Fellow at the Institute for Strategic Dialogue (ISD) in London and a Postdoctoral Fellow at Oxford University’s Calleva Centre of Evolution and Human Sciences, and Jelle van Buuren, Assistant Professor at Leiden University, Institute of Security and Global Affairs.  

Julia and Jelle discuss what anti-institutional extremism looks like in Europe today and what the key differences are between countries and regions. They also analyse how this movement has evolved, what its key issues are today, and how extremists in Europe are being affected by developments in the US or in Russia.  

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1 year ago
49 minutes 45 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 2: Anti-institutional extremism in North America

“Anti-Institutional Extremism: Causes and Responses” is an ICCT podcast series that explores forms of extremism that oppose the government and the perceived oppression from a globalised elite, often fueled by conspiracy narratives and disinformation. This series analyses what anti-institutional extremism looks like in North America and Europe today, and how it can be addressed and countered — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In this second episode, we speak to Martha Crenshaw, senior fellow emerita at The Center for International Security and Cooperation (C-SAC) and Freedman Spogli Institute, and a professor of political science by courtesy at Stanford, and Arie Perlinger, Professor at the University of Massachusetts Lowell.  

Martha and Arie focus on specific examples of anti-institutional extremism in North America. They also consider who is involved in anti-institutional extremism, what their ideological basis is,  how and why the phenomenon is evolving,  and how these actors are linked across the US and with actors/movements in Europe. 

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1 year ago
55 minutes

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 1: What is anti-institutional extremism?

“Anti-Institutional Extremism: Causes and Responses” is an ICCT podcast series that explores forms of extremism that oppose the government and the perceived oppression from a globalised elite, often fueled by conspiracy narratives and disinformation. This series analyses what anti-institutional extremism looks like in North America and Europe today, and how it can be addressed and countered — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In the first episode, we speak to Tore Bjørgo, Director of the Center for Research on Extremism at the University of Oslo, and Bàrbara Molas, Researcher of Current and Emerging Threats at ICCT.  

Tore and Bàrbara seek to provide a definition of what anti-institutional extremism is and what it is not. They also discuss who is involved in anti-institutional extremism, if these actors are uniform in their approach, and how the phenomenon has evolved. They also discuss the concerns around labelling this movement, and where to draw the line between legal protests and actions that require a response.  


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1 year ago
39 minutes 9 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 4: The United States' changing approach to Counter-Terrorism with Daniel L. Byman

“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In our fourth episode we speak to Daniel L. Byman, senior fellow at the Center for Middle East Policy at Brookings and professor at the Georgetown University Walsh School of Foreign Service's Security Studies Program. 

Daniel discusses his career, the United States' shift away from international counter-terrorism in favour of domestic counter-terrorism, the rise of white nationalist terrorism in the US, how institutional failures can lead to radicalisation, if these issues are being addressed effectively, the role of China and Russia, what needs to be done by the US and lessons learned from his work. Interviewing him is Alexander von Rosenbach, ICCT’s business manager.

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2 years ago
21 minutes 33 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 3: China's Approach to Countering Terrorism with Raffaello Pantucci

“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In our third episode, we speak to Raffaello Pantucci, Senior Fellow in the International Centre for Political Violence and Terrorism Research (ICPVTR) at the S. Rajaratnam School of International Studies (RSIS) in Singapore, and Senior Associate Fellow at the Royal United Services Institute for Defence and Security Studies (RUSI) in London.

Raffaello talks about his own professional journey, how events like the Afghanistan withdrawal and the war on Ukraine have impacted Chinese counter-terrorism, China’s involvement with Afghanistan and Pakistan, his view on Chinese intelligence and their domestic CT policies and if China is trying to change the norms of international CT.


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2 years ago
31 minutes 36 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 2: The End of a Western-Dominated Global CT Agenda? With Marc Hecker

“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In our second episode, we speak with Marc Hecker, Director of Research and Communications and the Editor-in-Chief of the French Institute of International Relations (IFRI).
Marc Hecker discusses his own professional journey in the field of counter-terrorism, the history of the twenty year global war on terror, whether we’ve reached the end of a Western global CT agenda, France and the Sahel region, the Wagner group and the future of European values in CT. Interviewing him is Alexander von Rosenbach, ICCT’s business manager.

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2 years ago
36 minutes 1 second

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 1: The Impact of Great Power Politics on the United Nation's Counter-Terrorism Strategy with Naureen Fink

“The Global Politics of Counter-Terrorism” is an ICCT podcast series that was started during our Annual Conference in 2022. The series delves into recent geopolitical shifts and their impact on human rights and the counter-terrorism agenda — through conversations with practitioners, academics, and policy-makers.

In our first episode, we speak to Naureen Fink, the executive director for the Soufan centre, who previously worked as a Senior Policy Adviser on Counterterrorism and Sanctions at the United Kingdom’s Mission to the United Nations.

Naureen Fink discusses how the change in global power dynamics has changed the UN’s CT agenda, the fragmentation of the international community, how international organizations can continue to advance Human Rights and Rule of Law compliance and the future role for European values within the UN. Interviewing her is Alexander von Rosenbach, ICCT’s business manager. 

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2 years ago
22 minutes 28 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 7: Counter-Terrorism and Women's Rights with Amb. Roya Rahmani

Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Today, ICCT is speaking to Ambassador Roya Rahmani, Afghan diplomat, and the first woman to serve as the Afghan ambassador to the United States and Indonesia.

In this interview, Amb. Rahmani will be discussing her experiences as a diplomat, her critical work promoting women's rights globally, and what the future holds for Afghanistan.

Interviewing her is Dr. Joana Cook, an ICCT Senior Project Manager and Editor-in-Chief of the ICCT Journal.

Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!


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3 years ago
42 minutes 15 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 6: Counter-Terrorism, Civil Liberties, and National Security with Hina Shamsi

Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Today, ICCT is speaking to Hina Shamsi, Director of the ACLU's National Security Project.

This interview examines how civil liberties and human rights fit into the framework of national security, their intersections with counter-terrorism, as well as providing insight into how these elements have changed over the past twenty years.

Interviewing her is Dr. Rumyana van Ark, a Research Fellow and Coordinator at the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism.

Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!


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3 years ago
32 minutes 49 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 5: Counter-Terrorism and International Diplomacy with Amb. Janet Alberda

Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Today, ICCT is speaking to Ambassador Janet Alberda, who is currently serving as Ambassador of the Kingdom of the Netherlands to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia.

In this interview, Amb. Alberda discusses the effects of counter-terrorism policies on international diplomacy, her experiences working in the Middle East after 9/11, and what obstacles the global community faces moving forwards.

Interviewing her is Teun van Dongen, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead, Current and Emerging Threats at ICCT.

Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!


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4 years ago
35 minutes 22 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 4: Counter-Terrorism Developments and Future Directions with Tom Parker

Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Today, ICCT is speaking to Tom Parker, author of "Avoiding the Terrorist Trap: Why Respecting Human Rights is the Key to Defeating Terrorism".

This interview explores the different historical manifestations of counter-terrorism, how these patterns shifted after 9/11, and why its future is firmly grounded in human rights.

Interviewing him is Alexander von Rosenbach, who at the time of recording was ICCT's Interim Director.

Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!

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4 years ago
56 minutes 14 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 3: Counter-Terrorism and the War on Terror with Bruce Hoffman

Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Today, ICCT is speaking to Bruce Hoffman, Professor of Security Studies at Georgetown University and Senior Fellow for counter-terrorism and homeland security at the Council on Foreign Relations.

This interview examines how counter-terrorism has evolved over the last 45 years, the impacts of 9/11, and the future of the Global War on Terror.

Interviewing him is Julie Coleman, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead of the Preventing and Countering Violent Extremism (P/CVE) programme at ICCT.

Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!


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4 years ago
32 minutes 18 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
Episode 2: Counter-Terrorism and Human Rights with Fionnuala Ní Aoláin

Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Today, ICCT is speaking to Fionnuala Ní Aoláin, United Nations Special Rapporteur on the Promotion and Protection of Human Rights and Fundamental Freedoms while Countering Terrorism.

This interview explores critical human rights and global challenges related to counter-terrorism, and how they have changed after 9/11. 

Interviewing her is Tanya Mehra, a Senior Research Fellow and Programme Lead, Rule of Law Responses to Terrorism at ICCT.

Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!


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4 years ago
32 minutes 3 seconds

The ICCT Podcast
The International Centre for Counter-Terrorism (ICCT) is a think-and-do tank based in The Hague, Netherlands. We provide research, policy advice, training and other solutions to support better counter-terrorism policies and practices worldwide. We also contribute to the scientific and public debates in the fields of counter-terrorism and countering violent extremism, notably through our publications and events.