Counter-Terrorism After 9/11 is a podcast series exploring how counter-terrorism has changed in the aftermath of the terrorist attacks on September 11th, 2001.

Today, ICCT is speaking to Hina Shamsi, Director of the ACLU's National Security Project.

This interview examines how civil liberties and human rights fit into the framework of national security, their intersections with counter-terrorism, as well as providing insight into how these elements have changed over the past twenty years.

Interviewing her is Dr. Rumyana van Ark, a Research Fellow and Coordinator at the International Centre for Counter-Terrorism.

Produced by Joseph Reid, Naledi Tilmann, Joana Cook, Anna-Maria Andreeva and Teo Kai Xiang. For more research on counter-terrorism, visit us at icct.nl!