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The Gen Mess with Tess
Tess Brigham
35 episodes
21 hours ago

Are generational divides in the workplace and in life driving you crazy?

The Gen Mess with Tess is here to help! Hosted by Tess Brigham—certified coach, licensed therapist, TEDx speaker, author, and mom to a Gen Zer—this podcast tackles the challenges and complexities of navigating life and work across multiple generations. From the unique struggles of Gen Z to the evolving perspectives of Millennials, Gen X, and Baby Boomers, Tess brings her expertise to the table, offering practical advice, expert insights, and real conversations to bridge the generational gap. Whether you're trying to communicate better with colleagues, understand your kids, or just get a clearer perspective on the "mess" of it all, The Gen Mess with Tess is your go-to resource for understanding how different generations think, work, and live.


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Are generational divides in the workplace and in life driving you crazy?

The Gen Mess with Tess is here to help! Hosted by Tess Brigham—certified coach, licensed therapist, TEDx speaker, author, and mom to a Gen Zer—this podcast tackles the challenges and complexities of navigating life and work across multiple generations. From the unique struggles of Gen Z to the evolving perspectives of Millennials, Gen X, and Baby Boomers, Tess brings her expertise to the table, offering practical advice, expert insights, and real conversations to bridge the generational gap. Whether you're trying to communicate better with colleagues, understand your kids, or just get a clearer perspective on the "mess" of it all, The Gen Mess with Tess is your go-to resource for understanding how different generations think, work, and live.


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The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 34: Less Rage, More Sage: Learning from Your Feels

What if the secret to surviving career chaos isn’t more hustle—but smarter engineering?


In this eye-opening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with systems architect and organizational consultant Belle Walker, who reveals why most companies—and leaders—are fighting the wrong fires, and how “engineering thinking” can fundamentally change how we navigate the messiest parts of work and life.


Belle shares her unusual journey from a family of engineers to stage management and humanities, and ultimately, to designing scalable, human-centered organizational systems. She explains how her approach blends classic problem-solving with deep empathy—translating abstract chaos into actionable clarity. Belle and Tess dig into why the real friction in organizations isn’t just between people, but between the functions and systems behind them, and how leaders often overlook the root causes of workplace tension.


Key highlights include:

  • Why "cleaning up the mess" starts with understanding what problems you’re actually solving (and what resources and constraints you have).
  • The surprising pitfalls of cutting entry-level jobs for AI—and why new talent is essential for adaptability.
  • The energy “budget” concept: how organizations and individuals ignore energy management at their peril, especially in the return-to-office push.
  • How generational expectations shape workplace difficulties—especially for Millennials and Gen Z, and why asking for what you need isn’t entitlement.
  • The reality behind organizational change: why progress always takes longer than it looks in books, movies, or a single sentence.


Tune in to uncover actionable strategies for bridging generational gaps, managing energy, and architecting workplace solutions that really work—plus, hear Belle’s take on parenting, the myth of innate genius, and her foolproof method for separating noise from necessity.


Episode Overview:

00:00 – Podcast intro & meet Belle Walker: organizational chaos vs. blueprints

00:04 – Belle’s origin story: engineering family, humanities leanings, Google, and finding the love of “building systems”

00:10 – What is engineering thinking? Problem setup vs. pure math

00:15 – Real-life chaos: Maps, autonomous vehicles, and the importance of communication

00:20 – Managing today’s workplace noise & energy budgets—satellites, commutes, and training

00:28 – Generational perspectives: Gen Z, Millennials ask for what they want, impacts on work culture

00:34 – AI’s impact on organizational jobs—pitfalls and policy mistakes

00:40 – Why leaders miss functional friction (security vs. usability, quick fixes vs. lasting change)

00:44 – Change takes time—why it always feels faster in hindsight

00:46 – Elder Millennials, COVID parenting, work-life transformations

00:52 – How to actually “clean up” the generational mess: leverage strengths, address gaps, solve the right problems

00:56 – Belle’s plug for her Friction to Function newsletter

00:57 – Tess wraps up: the power of problem-solving, empathy, and learning to live in the “mess”


Ready to see your workplace (and maybe your whole life) through a new lens? Hit play and join Tess and Belle as they engineer the way out of the Gen Mess!


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21 hours ago
57 minutes 22 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 33: Generation Exhausted: Why Gen Z Opted OuT

What if the real badge of honor isn’t how hard you work, but how well you rest?


In this eye-opening solo episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham pulls back the curtain on the cultural obsession with burnout—and exposes how every generation has unwittingly contributed to making exhaustion seem like a symbol of strength. Tess traces the roots of hustle culture from Gen X’s independent “latchkey kid” mentality, through Millennials’ overachievement during the Girl Boss era, and lands on Gen Z’s radical redefinition of ambition and mental health.

You’ll learn why each generation internalized burnout a little differently, why Millennials became the “burnout generation”, and how Gen Z’s refusal to conflate self-worth with overwork is shaking up workplaces everywhere. Plus, Tess opens up about her own journey to unlearn burnout and offers clarity on how we can collectively move toward a more sustainable, joyful way of living and working.


Key Highlights:

  • The evolution of the “hustle” era into today’s burnout epidemic—and how our culture glamorized suffering (00:01:09)
  • Gen X’s stoic independence, Millennials’ “girl boss” hustle, and Gen Z’s focus on boundaries and mental health (00:02:40 – 00:10:12)
  • How resentment between generations over work-life boundaries is really grief for missed opportunities (00:12:56)
  • The toxic cycle of burnout, reward, and repeat that keeps organizations stuck (00:16:20)
  • Practical steps for unlearning burnout and redefining success for yourself and your teams (00:18:55)

Ready to question everything you’ve believed about ambition, success, and rest? Tune in and discover why taking off the burnout badge might be the most rebellious—and freeing—move you’ll ever make.

Episode Overview with Timestamps:

00:00:01 – Podcast introduction and the generational divide

00:01:09 – How burnout became a badge of honor and generational differences

00:02:40 – Gen X’s origin story and attitude toward burnout

00:04:11 – Millennials, hustle culture, and the Girl Boss era

00:08:21 – Gen Z’s boundary-setting and work-life philosophy

00:11:10 – Tess’s approach to cleaning up “Gen mess” at organizations

00:12:56 – The grief and resentment beneath generational tension

00:14:19 – Gen Z’s impact on workplace culture

00:15:16 – Why exhaustion became a measure of excellence

00:16:20 – How workplaces promote burnout and reward dysfunction

00:18:55 – Steps to unlearning burnout and redefining success

00:20:58 – Closing thoughts and embracing grace over grit

00:22:19 – How to connect with Tess Brigham and continue the conversation



Subscribe to Gen Mess with Tess for more insights and strategies on bridging generational gaps and building workplaces where everyone thrives!


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1 week ago
22 minutes 50 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 32: Love is Blind and So Are We: Navigating Vulnerability in Modern Dating

What if your quest for love is actually a quest for safety?


In this eye-opening solo episode of "Gen Mess with Tess," host Tess Brigham dives deep into the messy reality behind the hit TV show Love is Blind—and reveals the uncomfortable truth: the show isn’t just a high-drama dating experiment, it's a mirror reflecting how we all perform, protect, and hide in our own relationships.

Tess explores why so many of us crave genuine connection but run from vulnerability, and how the performative world of swiping, texting, and social media shapes our fears of rejection and being truly seen. She breaks down unforgettable examples from Love is Blind—from avoiding tough conversations to sabotaging intimacy—and connects these moments to universal patterns we all share.


Key highlights include:

  • Why our brains treat emotional risks like physical danger, and how that keeps us from authentic love.
  • The real reason modern dating feels so numb and disconnected (hint: it’s not just the dating apps).
  • Insightful stories from Love is Blind Season 9, like Allie’s struggle with Anton’s drinking and Madison & Joe’s emotional dance, showcasing how vulnerability—and our defenses against it—play out in real time.
  • Practical advice on “micro-vulnerability” and how you can slowly build emotional self-trust in your own life.
  • A fresh perspective on why courage in love doesn’t look glamorous, but is absolutely essential.


If you’ve ever caught yourself performing instead of connecting, or wondered why intimacy can feel so terrifying, Tess’s honest reflections and actionable tips will help you see your own patterns, and maybe, just maybe, get braver.


Timestamped Overview:

  • [00:00:00] Welcome & introduction: Unpacking the theme “Love is Blind... and so are we”
  • [00:01:02] The age of performative connection and the craving for safety
  • [00:02:46] How Love is Blind reflects our relationship reality & defenses
  • [00:04:11] Vulnerability versus connection: Fear of exposure in modern love
  • [00:05:02] Case studies: Avoidance, self-protection, and emotional risk in past seasons
  • [00:06:31] Emotional risks, self-protection, and conversation avoidance (Allie & Anton)
  • [00:07:06] What real courage in relationships looks like (via Brene Brown)
  • [00:07:42] The speed of modern dating vs. our emotional capacity
  • [00:08:09] Emotional regulation, micro-vulnerability, and building real trust
  • [00:09:00] Madison & Joe: A case of protecting instead of connecting
  • [00:10:20] Attachment styles, generational patterns, and the impact on love
  • [00:12:17] Pandemic aftermath: Starved for connection, hypersensitive to intimacy
  • [00:13:16] Dating apps as numbing tools—why modern dating feels so hard
  • [00:14:09] The paradox: Control vs. experiencing real love
  • [00:14:50] Why Love is Blind resonates with so many: performative selves vs. longing for connection
  • [00:16:24] How to practice vulnerability: Micro-steps for building emotional trust
  • [00:18:23] What love really asks of us—clarity, bravery, and staying open
  • [00:19:20] The real experiment: Where do you protect instead of connect?
  • [00:20:26] Closing thoughts and encouragement to stay curious


Ready to turn the spotlight back on yourself? Hit play and start making sense of your own emotional mess!


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2 weeks ago
21 minutes 52 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 31: Flex Appeal: Why Rigid Leaders Are A Dying Breed

What if the secret to unlocking true leadership isn’t about knowing all the answers, but about learning to ask the right questions—especially across generations?


In this eye-opening episode of the “Gen Mess with Tess,” host Tess Brigham sits down with powerhouse executive coach Kristi Royse, founder of KLR Consulting, to uncover the real challenges—and unexpected opportunities—leaders face in today’s rapidly shifting workplace. You might be surprised to learn that the biggest workplace problem isn’t generational conflict, but something much sneakier: ignorance and a reluctance to adapt.

Tess and Kristi pull back the curtain on why leadership has changed so drastically since Kristi’s early Boston Market days—from command-and-control to flexible, empathic management. Together, they slice through stereotypes about “lazy” young workers and stubborn older bosses, revealing why every generation falls into the trap of judging the next—and how that holds companies back from monumental growth and innovation.


Key highlights from this episode include:

  • The shocking stat that in just a few years, most Americans will have a boss younger than themselves—and what that means for workplace dynamics.
  • Kristi’s candid stories about turning tech engineers into inspiring people leaders (plus, just how important real coaching—not checkbox training—can be).
  • Why understanding and embracing generational differences will make your team 49% more innovative (yes, there’s research to prove it).
  • The myth of “work-life balance” for Gen Z and Millennials, and how blending personal and professional lives is reshaping workplace expectations.



Whether you’re a CEO, manager, or early-career professional, this episode will challenge your assumptions and equip you with practical tips to create a healthier, more connected, and future-ready workplace. Get ready to make sense of the generational “mess”... and maybe even learn to thrive in it.


Timestamped Episode Overview:

00:01 – Tess introduces Kristi Royse and her extensive leadership background

01:13 – Kristi shares her origin story: from Boston Market COO to leadership consultant

02:25 – Night-and-day differences in leadership then and now

03:34 – The complex realities of leading five generations at once

06:01 – Tess and Kristi discuss fear, assumptions, and resistance to change among leaders

08:25 – Generational stereotypes: Why every young cohort gets accused of being “lazy”

09:48 – Coaching leaders to communicate and collaborate across generational divides

11:02 – The pitfalls of promoting technical stars to management without support

12:54 – Case study: Transforming engineers at Strava into people leaders

14:09 – Gen Z and the new meaning of work-life blend

15:26 – Building trust: How real conversations and vulnerability build stronger teams

18:00 – Younger vs. older generations: What key assumptions are holding us back?

20:17 – How to invest in employees—even if you fear they might leave

22:03 – Simple, actionable ways managers can support every direct report

23:27 – Overcoming resistance: Why the “it’s too much work” excuse falls flat

26:28 – Kristi on the greatest workplace struggle: ignorance and culture clashes

29:30 – Coaching, courage, and patience: The real keys to personal and company growth

40:02 – Doing meaningful work: When passion and purpose trump the paycheck

43:52 – Kristi’s positive spin: The generational “mess” is actually the best opportunity of our time

47:49 – Where to find Kristi’s work & resources for leaders ready to do better

Listen in and discover how you can turn generational tension into your organization’s biggest asset!


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4 weeks ago
50 minutes 51 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 30: Likes, Labels & Letting Go: The Empathy Edition with Dr. Ashok Bhattachanya

What if the greatest barrier to your success isn’t the world outside—but the silent story you keep telling yourself inside your own head?


In this compelling episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Dr. Ashok Bhattacharya, psychiatrist and founder of The Empathy Clinic, to explore why empathy isn’t just a “soft skill”—it’s the invisible glue shaping our relationships, workplaces, and personal growth. Dr. Bhattacharya reveals how early life experiences and powerful moments (sometimes as tiny as a single comment from a grade school teacher) can shape the narratives that define—and sometimes limit—us for decades.


Together, Tess and Dr. Bhattacharya dig deep into how we can unravel unhelpful stories, challenge survival-mode thinking, and truly transform how we connect with ourselves and each other. They break down the real difference between empathy, compassion, and kindness, and explain why even a little bit of genuine empathy can make or break a relationship, a workplace, or even your own self-worth.


Key highlights you’ll discover in this episode:

  • The surprising childhood experience that led Dr. Bhattacharya to devote his life to empathy.
  • Why your brain is hardwired to focus on failures—plus how perfectionism sneaks into relationships and work.
  • The “jam jar” analogy that reframes why change often happens slowly—until it happens all at once.
  • Why empathy is NOT about agreement—or imagining yourself in someone else’s shoes.
  • How to raise emotionally healthy kids and support younger generations who face unprecedented pressures thanks to technology.
  • Practical tools for leaders (and coworkers) to foster empathy at work—without needing hours of meetings or group therapy.
  • The secrets of reciprocal empathy, especially in couples and intergenerational relationships.
  • How embracing difference, not sameness, is the real key to bridging generational divides.


If you’re curious about how to actually practice empathy (not just talk about it), handle disagreement gracefully, or help your team, family, or yourself thrive in a messy, ever-changing world, this episode is packed with actionable wisdom and heartfelt stories.


Timestamps Overview:

00:00 – Intro: The generational “mess” & Tess’s mission

00:31 – Dr. Ashok Bhattacharya’s origin story & why empathy matters

04:40 – How the stories we tell ourselves can cripple us

07:04 – Why falling down (in skating…or life) is harder to process than you think

10:16 – The amplified pressures of today’s tech-driven world for the younger generation

12:39 – Practice, failure, and shame: Why young people get “stuck”

14:40 – What empathy, compassion, and kindness actually are

16:28 – The real challenge of empathy and “getting out of your head”

19:46 – Can you be empathic with people you disagree with?

23:03 – Tess’s therapy work: The invisible ripple effect of empathy

26:57 – “Soft skills” and how small moments shape lives

31:16 – The privilege of being “with” someone as a therapist

32:37 – Why bridging generational divides requires empathy

34:59 – How generations value and practice empathy differently

39:08 – Practical steps for leaders and teams to actively use empathy

42:07 – Why “a little empathy goes a long way” in the workplace

44:08 – Empathy as a proactive force for productivity and trust

45:54 – Where to find Dr. Bhattacharya + his books on empathy and burnout

48:33 – The secret power of reciprocal empathy in couples

49:13 – Outro: Embracing the mess and learning to live in it

Listen in—and discover how empathy isn’t a luxury. It’s your greatest tool for navigating the messiness of modern life.


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1 month ago
49 minutes 44 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 29: Gen X vs. Gen Z: The Great Work-Life Smackdown

What if the American Dream your parents promised you was nothing but a myth? What if the payoff for all your hard work simply… never arrives?


In this eye-opening episode of the Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with writer, podcaster, and former writing professor Amye Archer to pull back the curtain on generational work myths, shifting values, and what’s really happening as Gen Xers raise Gen Z kids in a world that looks nothing like the one they inherited.


Key Highlights:

  • Generational Real Talk: Tess and Amye dive deep into Gen X’s collective disillusionment—how growing up between two very different eras (Boomers’ trusting company loyalty and Millennials’ self-branding hustle) shaped their perspectives on work, creativity, and life.
  • Gen Z’s New Playbook: Can you actually say “no” to crappy jobs and still end up ahead? Amye shares what she’s learned from parenting twin Gen Z daughters who refuse to settle for less, put work-life balance first, and are rewriting the rules the rest of us grew up with.
  • Therapist Wisdom & Storytelling: How does a background in writing, teaching, AND therapy shape a successful podcasting career? Amye reveals the skills and mindset shifts that made her leap from academia to the unpredictable world of podcasting—plus how connecting with listeners has become her ultimate reward.
  • Parenting Without a Playbook: From tales of “feral Gen X” childhoods to the anxiety of raising teens in an era of mass shootings and online drama, Tess and Amye compare notes on what surprises, worries, and inspires them about this new generation.
  • Shaking Up the Workplace: What does managing (or parenting) Gen Z really require? Hear straight talk on how managers and parents need to let go of old rules, focus on personal connection, and embrace the flexibility, questioning, and self-respect that today’s young adults demand.


Whether you’re wondering how to deal with your Gen Z coworkers, trying to understand your kids, or facing your own career pivot, this episode is a must-listen for anyone ready to finally make sense of the generational mess—and maybe even be inspired by it.


Episode Overview:

00:00 – Introductions & Pop Culture Blindspots: Gen X vs Gen Z

01:16 – Work, Creativity & Gen X Disillusionment

04:09 – Gen Z’s Bargaining Power at Work

06:06 – Parenting Styles Then and Now

10:56 – Mental Health, Communication & Anxiety in Kids

11:20 – Building a Podcast Career Outside the Traditional Path

12:52 – How Writing, Creativity, & Therapy Fuel Podcasting

15:00 – Why Amye Started Little Miss Recap & Murder She Watched

16:13 – Leaving Academia and Lessons from Career Pivots

18:27 – Working With a Spouse in the Podcasting World

19:33 – Surprises in Raising Gen Z Daughters

23:42 – Gen Z, World Issues & Climate Anxiety

25:23 – Gen Z and Money, Work-Life Balance, and Defining Success

26:58 – Gen X, Boomers, and the Vanishing American Dream

29:14 – Advice Gaps: Why “Old” Solutions Don’t Fit New Problems

31:09 – Why Professors (and Managers) Are Burned Out

33:27 – What Gen Z Has Taught Gen X About Self-Respect and Boundaries

35:25 – Parental Concerns: Coddling vs. Independence

38:39 – The Importance of Modeling and Letting Kids Fail

40:13 – Advice for Managing Gen Z at Work

41:58 – Why Work Should Focus on Output, Not Hours

43:11 – The Need for Personal Connection in the Modern Workplace

45:14 – Wrapping Up & Amye’s Podcast Plugs

Press play to discover how to stop fixing the mess—and start living in it.


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1 month ago
48 minutes 43 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 28: HR: Not Just Birthday Cakes and Candy – A Real Talk with Jessica Holst

What if the secret to skyrocketing your company’s profits isn’t better tech, but happier employees?


In this episode of Gen Mess With Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with powerhouse people & culture leader Jessica Holst (SpaceX, CAA, Mattel, Verve) to pull back the curtain on why traditional HR practices—and even today’s obsession with AI—are missing the real leverage point for business success: the emotional well-being and engagement of your team.

Jessica reveals why most companies are completely underestimating how much empowering employees (instead of controlling them) transforms productivity, innovation, and the bottom line. Through compelling stories from Hollywood’s notorious agency world to surprising data on what actually drives performance, Jessica and Tess dive into:

  • The evolution of HR from “personnel police” to culture architects—and why most organizations are stuck in the past
  • The science behind why emotions and a sense of belonging at work fuel profitability
  • Why letting go of short-term thinking is essential in the age of AI (spoiler alert: robots can’t replace genuine human connection)
  • The broken pipeline in Hollywood and other fields that keeps real talent and diversity out of reach—and how Jessica helped raise assistant pay industry-wide
  • Navigating generational rifts, from Gen Z’s boundary-setting to Gen X’s “work-as-life” mindset, and what leaders need to realize about new definitions of success
  • The tricky but critical difference between bringing your authentic self versus your whole self to work—and how to set healthy boundaries as a leader
  • Practical, hard-won advice for building workplaces where people actually want to show up (and what happens when you finally give them a voice)

If you’re a business owner, manager, future leader, or anyone struggling with workplace “mess”—don’t miss this deep, frank, and refreshingly actionable conversation. You’ll walk away with new strategies (and maybe a few hard truths) for bridging generational divides, unlocking creativity, and making your company a magnet for talent.


Episode Overview

  • [00:00] Intro & Jessica's unexpected leap into HR
  • [00:04] From “personnel” to people strategy: reframing the HR function
  • [00:07] Ritz-Carlton & Enterprise: The business breakthrough of empowering employees
  • [00:15] Why can’t CEOs see the ROI of treating people well?
  • [00:25] Hollywood’s diversity problem and the legacy of gatekeeping
  • [00:36] What Gen Z and Millennials really want at work (and why)
  • [00:43] Authenticity vs. Oversharing: Navigating boundaries in the modern workplace
  • [00:54] How being a parent (and a manager) can make you better at both
  • [00:57] Jessica’s consulting journey & how to create a workplace everyone wants to work for


Tune in for an episode that just might change the way you think about work—and how to make it work better, for everyone.


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1 month ago
1 hour 32 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 27: Write or Wrong: Why Most Writing Sucks (and How to Fix It) with Brian Morgan

What if the biggest problem with your writing isn’t your grammar or structure—but the way you think?


In this eye-opening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with her personal writing coach, Brian Morgan, founder of Think Deeply, Write Clearly, to reveal the transformative link between writing, thinking, and the human condition. Get ready to reconsider everything you thought you knew about creativity, communication, and the very process of making sense of the world.


Brian shares his unconventional journey from struggling actor to billion-dollar report editor, ultimately landing as a leading expert in sense-making through writing. Together, Tess and Brian dive into:


  • Why most writing problems are actually rooted in muddled thinking—and why most schools do a terrible job of teaching this.
  • The surprising truth about creative careers: Do most artists really want to be artists, or just famous?
  • The dangers of trusting leaders who speak in conclusions instead of thoughtful frameworks (with spicy commentary on today’s political climate!)
  • Why Gen Z and today’s college students are falling behind in critical thinking and communication—and how our current education structures are failing them
  • The one daily practice that can immediately make you a clearer thinker, communicator, and human being


Whether you’re a business leader, educator, or someone wanting to bridge the generational communication gap, this episode is packed with vulnerable stories, tough truths, and actionable takeaways for thriving in the modern world—mess and all.


Timestamped Overview:

00:00 – Tess introduces the Gen Mess with Tess and welcomes Brian Morgan

00:01 – Brian’s background: From acting to editing billion-dollar contracts to writing coaching

00:07 – Are artists really after creative mastery or just fame?

00:14 – What acting teaches about observation, sense-making, and writing

00:17 – Why most writing “problems” are actually thinking problems

00:22 – The danger of conclusions without sense-making frameworks; politics and business examples

00:29 – Is it our individual job to make sense of the world? Stories of self-reflection, failure, and growth

00:43 – The crisis in education: Why today’s students struggle with thinking and writing (COVID-19’s impact and beyond)

00:50 – Rapid fire: Brian’s top writing/communication tip you can use right now

00:53 – Free resource: How to join Brian’s 90-day prolific writing program


Listen, reflect, and discover how you can clean up your own “gen mess”—one clear thought at a time.


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1 month ago
54 minutes 50 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 26: Is the American Dream Still Alive or Has It Changed for Gen Z?

What if the American Dream was never really meant for everyone? And what if today’s younger generations are reinventing it into something healthier and more meaningful?


In this thought-provoking solo episode, Tess Brigham dives headfirst into the messy legacy of the American Dream—exposing who it really served, how it shaped generations, and why Gen Z and Millennials are outgrowing the old rules. Tess peels back the glossy myth of "work hard and you’ll have it all," uncovering the hidden realities of racial, gender, and economic exclusion. Through personal anecdotes, cultural observations (from Bake Sale Betty to Barbie to Mad Men), and data-driven insights, Tess reveals how younger generations are rewriting the dream: prioritizing enough over excess, values over grind, and happiness over hustle.


Tune in to discover:

  • The untold limitations of the post-war American Dream—even at its peak
  • How today’s economic realities stack the odds against traditional milestones
  • Why Gen Z is rejecting burnout culture and chasing a new vision of “enoughness”
  • What companies must change to attract and keep the next generation of talent
  • The surprising truth about what really drives our pursuit of success


If you’ve ever wondered why “kids these days” have different aspirations—or if you’re struggling with your own feelings about work and self-worth—this episode will help you see the American Dream in a whole new light.


Timestamps:

  • 00:00 — Show intro and the American Dream: myth vs. reality
  • 02:16 — Who actually got access to the American Dream post-WWII
  • 04:27 — Bake Sale Betty: Redefining business success and work-life balance
  • 08:50 — The American Dream today: College debt, housing prices, and wage stagnation
  • 12:20 — Gen Z’s new dream: Mental well-being and purposeful work
  • 14:19 — Pop culture shifts: From Barbie to Mad Men
  • 15:57 — A Dream of “enough”: What if fulfillment is the goal?
  • 17:59 — Wrap up: Living with the messy, evolving American Dream


Subscribe for more real talk with Tess Brigham, or visit tessbrigham.com to learn how Tess can help your organization thrive across generations!


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2 months ago
18 minutes 44 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 25: Influencer By Accident: The Secret Life of CEOs, Consultants & Content Creators

What if the secret to true influence is saying “no” more often than saying “yes”?


In this eye-opening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Brad Hoos—CEO of The Outloud Group and founder of Musk Ox—to unravel the myths and realities behind the influencer industry, generational shifts at work, and what it really takes to lead with authenticity.

Brad didn’t set out to become an influencer marketing expert—in fact, he’s a self-described “recovering engineer” and ex-management consultant. But after an unlikely twist in his career, Brad now leads an agency representing top creators on YouTube, TikTok, and beyond. Together, Tess and Brad dig deep into:

  • The science of influence: Can you “fake” true influence, or is it rooted in trust and authenticity? And why is it often the creators who turn down brand deals who drive the biggest results?
  • Generational insights: How Gen Z and millennials are changing the digital landscape, why “YouTube famous” now simply means “famous,” and whether being an influencer is just a masked quest for connection and self-acceptance.
  • The CEO’s balancing act: Brad reveals how he protects his mental health amid chaos, the productivity hacks that actually work, and the surprising lesson that changed everything about how he leads.
  • Company culture that sticks: Hear how Outloud Group centers success on personal growth and emotional intelligence, and how radical direct communication keeps their workplace free of toxic gossip.
  • The power of saying no: Why knowing when to walk away—from brand deals, tasks, or even outdated life advice—might be the ultimate “growth hack.”


Plus, Tess and Brad open up about parenting across generations, living in the chaotic mess of life, and what today’s rising leaders are getting right (and wrong) about carving their own paths.

This episode is a must-listen whether you’re an aspiring influencer, people leader, or simply navigating the generational dynamics at work and home.


Timestamped Episode Overview:

00:00 – Tess introduces Brad Hoos and the evolving generational “mess”

01:09 – Brad’s unexpected journey from engineering to influencer marketing

03:50 – Why consulting shaped his approach to data-driven, people-first campaigns

05:46 – The Super Bowl, Kendrick Lamar, and the myth of “faking” influence

06:48 – How trust and authenticity drive true influence online

09:06 – The power of creators saying “no” and the perils of commercial oversaturation

12:02 – Brad’s daily routines and mental health as a CEO

15:09 – Productivity hacks that actually work (and those that don’t)

18:42 – Why subtraction is the real path to sanity for leaders

21:58 – Outloud’s unique definition of success and growth-focused culture

25:37 – Building a company around emotional intelligence and radical candor

28:05 – Brad’s pivotal moment learning to stop carrying leadership’s emotional weight

32:37 – Parenting, presence, and finding joy in living fully “in the moment”

36:53 – How millennials and Gen Z have redefined influence, fame, and advocacy

44:27 – Why Gen Z’s drive for purpose and connection is changing everything

50:41 – Is the influencer dream a search for real community?


Don’t forget to subscribe, and if you’re ready to bridge your own generational gaps, check out Tess’s work at tessbrigham.com or connect with Brad and his team at outloudgroup.com!


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2 months ago
52 minutes 32 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 24: Central Perks and Parent's Couch: The One Where Adulthood Gets Complicated

What if your favorite ‘90s sitcom is actually an aspirational fantasy—and today’s TV is a brutally honest mirror?


In this unexpected solo episode, Tess Brigham dives into the wild evolution of 20-something life on TV, revealing what Friends got right (and wrong) about young adulthood, and why the new FX series Adults hits closer to home for Gen Z.

Tess shares her own Hollywood background before she became a therapist and coach, unpacking how pop culture doesn’t just entertain us—it reflects our deepest worries, hopes, and the messy realities of growing up. Using Friends and Adults as cultural bookends, Tess explores how economic stability, rent prices, college debt, technology, social media, and discussions around identity and mental health have radically reshaped what it means to "grow up" over just 30 years.


Key highlights include:

  • The jaw-dropping gap between ‘90s economic realities and today’s housing and job market for young adults
  • Why Friends never tackled race, sexuality, or student debt—and how Adults puts those issues front and center
  • How social media has blown up the scale of comparison and anxiety for today’s 20-somethings
  • Surprising universal truths: no matter the decade, everyone in their twenties feels lost, unsure, and desperate to find their people
  • What both older and younger generations can learn from these shows


Whether you grew up wishing you could hang out at Central Perk or you’re hustling in your parents' house in Queens, this episode asks: What does adulthood really mean—and how do we redefine it together?


Timestamped Episode Overview:

00:00:01 – Intro & show mission; Tess shares her Hollywood background

00:01:33 – Why pop culture is a “mirror” for our lives

00:02:02 – Comparing FX’s Adults and Friends: then vs. now

00:03:38 – Economic realities for young adults in the ‘90s

00:04:51 – Tech, social media, and how comparison has changed

00:05:31 – How Adults depicts modern realities: housing, healthcare, and job insecurity

00:07:59 – (Ad break) Tess discusses her work with organizations

00:08:45 – Diversity, privilege, identity: from invisible to center stage

00:09:31 – Universal truths of young adulthood that never change

00:10:59 – Today’s heightened pressures: rent, debt, and fragile economy

00:12:11 – Technology amplifies awareness—and anxiety

00:13:18 – Why comparing the two shows matters for every generation

00:14:16 – What each generation can learn from Friends and Adults

00:14:58 – The enduring importance of friendship and connection

00:16:25 – Closing thoughts & where to find more from Tess

Don’t miss this episode if you’ve ever felt caught between nostalgia and reality—or want to understand how every generation tries (and struggles) to make sense of this “gen mess.”


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2 months ago
16 minutes 56 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 23: The Power of Thought, Action, And Words: Practical Growth with Billy G.

What if the secret to manifesting the life you want isn’t just about thinking positive thoughts—what if it’s about understanding how your mind, heart, and healing all work together?


In this episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with transformational speaker and life coach Billy Giannouloudis (aka Billy G), and the conversation is full of surprising wisdom, down-to-earth insights, and a fresh, spiritual take on both coaching and therapy.

Billy shares the profound turning point in his life when everything seemed to fall apart—family, relationships, career plans—only to realize that this mess was exactly what led him to his true calling. He opens up about his coaching journey, including his training with Tony Robbins, and reveals how real transformation happens when we blend action-based coaching with deeper therapeutic healing.


Key highlights include:

  • The shocking way Billy found his life’s purpose when everything else collapsed.
  • The “doorknob effect” in coaching, and why the biggest breakthroughs often come right at the end of a conversation.
  • Billy’s core approach: mastering your thoughts, words, and beliefs—the three things everyone can control.
  • Demystifying manifestation: Why most people get it wrong, and how manifesting is actually happening all the time, even when you’re asleep.
  • A candid discussion about generational shifts, technology, and how Millennials (and younger generations) are rewriting the rules for personal growth, emotions, and healing.
  • Tess and Billy’s practical advice for both skeptics and enthusiasts: how to make change stick, bridge the generational gap, and move from “fixing the mess” to thriving in it.


Whether you’re curious about what really works in life coaching, trying to rewrite your own mental script, or just looking to finally “get” manifestation without the hype, this episode brings the real talk and actionable steps you need.


Episode Overview (Timestamps):

  • 00:00:01 – Intro and Tess welcomes Billy Giannouloudis
  • 00:01:25 – Billy’s origin story: from psychology to rock bottom to life coaching
  • 00:03:13 – Mixing therapy with Tony Robbins’ coaching: What stuck, what changed
  • 00:05:27 – How to make borrowed wisdom your own—becoming the first you, not the next someone else
  • 00:07:52 – Billy’s practical process for helping high performers and everyday clients get unstuck
  • 00:11:49 – The “three things you control”: thoughts, words, and actions/beliefs
  • 00:17:01 – What most people misunderstand about manifestation (and why it’s not just about repeating affirmations)
  • 00:24:19 – How generational experiences—from 9/11 to tech—shape Millennials and beyond
  • 00:32:43 – Answering skeptics: Can younger coaches help older clients? (Billy’s answer might surprise you)
  • 00:36:36 – Where to find Billy online and wrap-up with Tess


Listen in for a truly fresh conversation that blends the pragmatic, the spiritual, and the real challenges we all face living in the “mess” of modern life.


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2 months ago
38 minutes 43 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 22: Is Work Just a Hobby? How Gen Z Is Redefining Success with Katie O’Brien

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Show Notes

What if your job was just a hobby—and not your entire reason for existence?


On this episode of “Gen Mess with Tess,” host Tess Brigham sits down with Katie O’Brien, a Gen Z professional working abroad at a multinational company, who’s redefining what it means to build a career in a world overflowing with choices, expectations, and the ever-present pressure of comparison.


Together, Tess and Katie dive into the most surprising realities of starting out in today’s workforce—not just the freedom to pivot and explore multiple paths, but also the unexpected paralysis that comes from “too many options.” Katie opens up about the struggles of decision making in an age of social media highlight reels, the burden of being compared to previous generations, and her candid take on why Gen Z refuses to let work define their entire lives.


Other key highlights include:

  • Katie’s revelation that most people don’t just have one career anymore—and why that realization can be liberating (or terrifying)
  • Why Gen Z is often misread as “not wanting to work,” when really they’re just setting boundaries and craving growth beyond the day-to-day grind
  • A deep dive into the anxieties sparked by constant comparison (think: friends traveling, buying homes, or switching careers), and how Katie manages that voice in her head telling her to do it all
  • The power of managers sharing their own stories—and how generational conversations at work are evolving
  • Katie’s best advice for managers: every Gen Zer is different, so don’t assume what works for one will work for another
  • A refreshingly honest reminder: Adulthood and working life is “hard, but not impossible”—and why we all need to be a little kinder to ourselves (and each other)


Whether you’re trying to figure out your next move, manage Gen Z employees, or just want to know how today’s young professionals are navigating their own “gen mess,” this episode will give you insight, practical advice, and maybe even a little relief knowing everyone’s just figuring it out as they go.


Episode Overview:

  • 00:00 — Introduction & Katie’s background: work isn’t what it used to be
  • 03:00 — The myth of one career path and the overwhelm of too many choices
  • 06:00 — Facing generational judgment at work
  • 09:30 — The importance of supportive managers and generational perspectives
  • 11:00 — Skills over degrees: Why backgrounds don’t always matter
  • 16:00 — Taking advice with perspective & learning to filter feedback
  • 19:00 — Social media’s impact on decision making and comparison
  • 24:00 — The quest for life balance, happiness, and living intentionally
  • 31:00 — Gen Z trends: Work as a hobby, not an identity
  • 34:00 — What older managers should know about Gen Z
  • 36:00 — The real talk: Adulthood is hard, and that’s okay


Listen in for an authentic, cross-generational conversation about what it really means to make sense of the mess today.



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3 months ago
40 minutes 36 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 21: Finding Meaning in the Mess: Tess Brigham on Personal Growth and Podcast Evolution

What if everything you thought you knew about yourself—and the world around you—was just one small piece of a much bigger, messier puzzle?


In this deeply personal solo episode, host Tess Brigham pulls back the curtain on "The Gen Mess with Tess," revealing major changes to the direction of the show. Tess opens up about her journey from focusing solely on generational differences to confronting the deeper, messier questions about identity, purpose, and making sense of a confusing world. She candidly shares why she’s expanding the scope of the podcast, explains the real meaning behind the term “mess,” and how embracing life’s gray areas can bring more peace and self-acceptance.


Listeners will get an inside look at:

  • The pitfalls of labeling entire generations and why Tess is stepping away from that as her only angle
  • The story behind “Messy Tessy” and learning to embrace the messiness in life
  • How sitting with uncertainty and discomfort is essential to personal growth
  • A preview of richer, more honest topics coming up—from grief and work transitions to relationships, creativity, and everything in between


If you’ve ever felt lost, stuck, or overwhelmed by a world that doesn’t make sense, this episode offers comfort, clarity, and an invitation to explore life’s uncertainties together.


Episode Overview & Timestamps:

  • [00:00:01] Tess introduces the episode and shares her original purpose for the podcast
  • [00:01:23] Criticisms facing young generations and the generational narrative in the media
  • [00:03:21] Realizing the need for a new direction and what Tess wants from her own listening experience
  • [00:04:37] The desire to make sense of the world, and the importance of embracing uncertainty
  • [00:05:12] Expanding beyond generations—introducing wider topics and personal stories
  • [00:08:30] The meaning of “The Gen Mess” title and Tess’s journey embracing her own “messiness”
  • [00:09:50] Accepting that life is messy and finding peace in the gray areas
  • [00:10:20] What’s changing in the show’s format and the invitation for listener feedback
  • [00:11:28] Tess closes with gratitude and excitement for what’s next

Tune in and get ready to find comfort—and maybe even answers—in the messiness of being human.


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3 months ago
13 minutes

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 20: Autonomy, Trust, and Team Success: Jhana Li's Keys for Modern Entrepreneurs

Ever wondered why your business feels stuck in chaos—no matter how innovative your big idea is? Here’s the shocker: The real bottleneck might be you.


In this eye-opening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Jhana Li, operations expert and founder of Spyglass Ops, who shares how even the most visionary entrepreneurs can unintentionally hold their businesses back. Jhana reveals why the skills that get you started—wearing all the hats, holding the reins tight—are the same habits that keep your company from reaching the next level of growth.


Key Highlights:

  • Jhana’s candid journey from failed startup employee to 22-year-old COO and coach—plus what she learned about leadership and operations along the way
  • The surprisingly simple difference between visionary founders and world-class operators
  • Why trying to “do it all” is a growth killer, and the power of delegation and trust in building successful teams
  • Confronting the mirror: The radical role of self-awareness, emotional work, and personal growth in business success
  • How Jhana leverages her unique position as a young woman in a male-dominated space to create a competitive advantage
  • The truth about Gen Z and Millennial work habits—debunking the “entitled/lazy” myth with real stories from small, successful remote teams
  • Leadership hacks: Why focusing on outcomes (not hours worked) and genuinely caring about team members’ goals creates high-performing, motivated workplaces


Want to go deeper? Connect with Jhana Li at Spyglass Ops or follow her on LinkedIn and Instagram @jhanali. For more generational insights and practical strategies, subscribe to Gen Mess with Tess, and visit tessbrigham.com for coaching, courses, and more!

Remember: Cleaning up the “gen mess” in your business starts with one real, honest conversation—and that starts with you.


Timestamped Overview

00:00 From Failure to Entrepreneurial Success

06:21 Balancing Leadership: Vision vs. Details

08:59 Founders Struggle to Delegate

11:38 Generational Shift in Communication Styles

14:26 "Standing Out as a Competitive Advantage"

17:29 Finding Growth in Challenges

22:44 Shifting Confidence Sources

23:48 Navigating Quarter-Life Crisis

27:33 "Focus on Individual Needs"

34:08 Quarter-Life Crisis and Mental Health

37:26 "Seeking Growth-Oriented Collaborators"

39:39 People-Centric Leadership Focus

42:43 "Human Connection is Challenging"

46:05 Scaling Teams for Digital Founders


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4 months ago
47 minutes 40 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 19: Lost in Translation: The Gen Mess Goes Global

What if everything you thought you knew about “American culture” was invisible—to you, but glaringly obvious to everyone else?


In this revealing episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Lanie Denslow, renowned cultural translator and author, to break down the unspoken rules and quiet revolutions shaping generational and cross-cultural dynamics in the modern workplace. Together, they explore the evolving global landscape—where today’s youth, from Tokyo to Paris to California, are shaking up tradition in the name of mental health, work-life balance, and redefining success.


Key Highlights:

  • Culture is More Than Food & Fashion: Lanie unpacks culture as “the software of the mind”—the unwritten scripts that guide everything from workplace etiquette to how we form friendships, often so ingrained we don’t see them until challenged by someone who does things differently.
  • Generations vs. Geography: How Gen Z’s workplace “rebellions”— prioritizing mental health, rejecting burnout, and seeking meaningful experiences—are unfolding around the globe, but not always in the same ways as in the U.S.
  • Peaches and Coconuts: Discover why Americans are “peaches”—friendly on the surface but private at the core—while most of the world are “coconuts,” reserved at first but deeply loyal once you break through.
  • Why We All Need Cultural Training: Lanie makes the compelling case for company-wide cultural awareness—not just for executives, but for every team member—so that everyone, from new hires to seasoned leaders, learns to ask: “Could something cultural be happening here?”
  • Cleaning Up the Gen Mess: Tess and Lanie offer concrete strategies for bridging generational and cultural divides, including the importance of curiosity, empathy, and open communication between all ages and backgrounds.


For more insights from Lanie Denslow, check out her books like Working with Americans and connect with her at worldwiseonline.net. Follow Tess at tessbrigham.com for resources on bridging the generational gap in your workplace and life.

Let’s get curious, get connected, and clean up the Gen Mess—one conversation at a time!



Timestamped Overview

00:00 "Understanding Cultural Differences in Business"

05:00 "Cultural Perception and Interaction"

09:47 Shifting Traditions in Japan

13:03 "Cultural Diversity Among Youth"

17:19 Youth Travel Fueled by Internet

21:02 Living in the Moment: Gen Z

21:44 Embracing Failure: A Unique American Culture

26:46 "American Social Dynamics: Peaches Analogy"

28:55 Navigating International Friendships

34:29 "Close-Knit Social Circles"

39:00 Cross-Cultural Training for Global Leaders

41:36 Cultural Awareness in the Workplace

46:19 Generational Work Attitude Shift

48:25 "Training for Evolving Work Culture"


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4 months ago
51 minutes 40 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 18: Billable Hours vs. Burnout Powers: Law's Generational Divide

What if the biggest obstacle to workplace harmony isn’t lazy young workers or out-of-touch bosses—but a silent, generational “stalemate” that’s sabotaging both sides?


In this solo episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham takes you behind the scenes of a revealing conversation with a group of seasoned law firm owners—mostly Gen Xers—who are struggling not with legal cases, but with the rapidly shifting expectations of their Gen Z associates. Tess ditches the slideshow for honest dialogue, tackling the real questions on everyone's mind: Who’s really responsible for bridging the generational gap at work? Are younger workers asking for too much, or is it the system that’s failing them? And why are definitions of success so different—and so contentious—across age groups?


Key Highlights:

  • The Heart of the Struggle: Tess shares candid moments from her talk with law firm leaders who feel overwhelmed by the need to offer more support and flexibility, while also adjusting their management styles for a new generation of workers.
  • Work Ethic vs. Well-being: Hear how the expectation to “hustle” is colliding with Gen Z’s unapologetic focus on mental health, work-life balance, and redefining success.
  • Systemic Traps: Tess exposes the financial pressures facing young associates, from sky-high rents to crushing student loans, and how these realities shape the modern workplace.
  • The Fairness Divide: Explore how older and younger employees see “fairness” in radically different ways, and why mutual suspicion only worsens the gen mess.
  • Practical Insights: From boundary-setting and honest communication to rethinking what it means to be successful, Tess offers clear, actionable advice for workers and leaders at every level.


Questions or stories to share? Tess invites you to send in your experiences—whether you’re running a law firm, working your way up, or just trying to survive the generational mess.

Don’t let the Gen Mess mess with you. Tune in, rethink what it means to thrive at work, and help fix the generation gap—one conversation at a time.




Timestamped Overview

00:00 Workforce Tensions Between Generations

04:22 Empowerment Through Self-Control

07:19 Generational Work Ethic Clash

10:13 Housing Costs Outpace Wage Growth

12:42 Redefining Success and Fairness

17:45 Redefining Success Across Generations

20:07 Embrace Uncomfortable Change


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4 months ago
24 minutes 5 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 17: Why Work is Broken and How Relationships Can Fix It with Jason Lauritsen

What if the biggest reason you hate your job isn’t YOUR fault—but a 150-year-old management system designed to treat you like a cog, not a human being?


That’s exactly what gets uncovered in this episode of Gen Mess with Tess, where Tess Brigham sits down with workplace revolutionary Jason Lauritsen. Jason shares his compelling journey from Iowa farm kid to corporate HR leader and bestselling author on a mission to fix—yes, FIX—the way we treat people at work.


Key Highlights You’ll Hear:

  • Jason’s eye-opening origin story: How witnessing his father’s battle for integrity at work ignited Jason’s lifelong drive to repair “broken” workplaces.
  • The ugly truth about how industrial-age management STILL rules today—and what needs to change so people can actually thrive.
  • Why generational “workplace drama” is often just a lack of clarity and relationship skills, not a battle between ages.
  • The simple, genius “Check-In Method” for managers and coworkers—a four-step, 5-minute approach that will transform the way you communicate, build trust, and solve problems at work.
  • Debunking resistance: Why leaders fear real conversations (and how to move through your fear of not having all the answers).
  • Ways generational trauma shows up at work—and the critical shift needed to break the cycle, no matter your age or role.


For more on Jason’s management strategies and the Check-In Method, connect with him at jasonlauritsen.com, check out his podcast Check in with Jason Lauritsen, or find him on LinkedIn.


Ready to stop letting the “gen mess” mess with YOU? Listen in, stay curious, and let’s start cleaning up the workplace—one real conversation at a time.




Timestamped Overview

00:00 Understanding My Origin Story

06:07 Headhunting: Navigating Workplace Dysfunction

09:07 Choosing People-Centric Workplaces

10:05 "Outdated Work Systems"

14:14 Desire for Individuality at Work

18:21 Hollywood's Hierarchical Hazing Culture

22:34 "The Check-In Method's Simplicity"

23:47 Essential Management: The Check-In Method

29:21 "Transformative Leadership Through Better Questions"

31:17 Listening to Younger Employees

34:13 Supporting, Not Fixing Relationships

38:26 Avoid Generational Stereotypes

42:50 Managing Expectations and Clarity

45:02 Align Expectations with Employees

47:26 "Find Jason at JasonLauritsen.com


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4 months ago
50 minutes 59 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 16: Work First or Me First? Gen X, Z and The Alphabet Soup of Office Drama

What if the generational "mess" at work isn't just about age—it's about culture, communication, and what no one ever tells you on your first day?


In this revealing episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with Tracy Ward, award-winning HR executive and corporate culture strategist, to unpack the real dynamics that shape our workplaces. Together, they dive deep into Tracy's unique journey from aspiring bioengineer to HR leader, and share eye-opening insights on why so many new employees feel lost—not because they're unprepared, but because companies forget to teach the "unwritten rules" that create true belonging at work.


Key Highlights:

  • The hidden pitfalls of workplace culture that trip up new hires—and how to fix them before burnout sets in.
  • Generational patterns at work: How Gen Z's desire for purpose, Gen X's "work first" mentality, and evolving attitudes toward boundaries and self-care are changing the way leaders need to engage and retain talent.
  • Actionable ways to make your onboarding process more intentional, including assigning buddies, demystifying strange company jargon, and leveraging peer support.
  • The critical importance of communication around employee benefits, and why reminding your team about available resources is an act of genuine care.
  • Why relationships at work—not just salary or perks—are the #1 reason people stick around (or leave).
  • Balancing business goals with creating sustainable, people-first workplaces—and the business case for happiness and trust.

Ready to clean up the gen mess at your own workplace? Tune in and discover practical strategies to create a place where every generation—and every individual—can thrive.

Resources: Find Tracy Ward and learn more about Forward Talent Strategies at www.forwardtalentstrategies.com, or connect with her on LinkedIn. And don’t forget: the path to a healthier, more vibrant work culture starts with one intentional conversation—maybe yours!



Timestamped Overview

00:00 "Passion for HR Leadership Journey"

06:05 Onboarding: Organizational Responsibility Debate

08:53 Generational Shifts in Workplace Values

10:25 Empowered Employee Communication

15:45 Enhancing Employee Benefits Communication

18:45 Promoting Resources Through Accessibility

22:50 Workplace Bonds and Purpose

24:51 "Impact of Employee Turnover"

27:13 Leadership Change and Influence Struggles

33:03 Importance of Third-Party Trust

34:34 Balancing People and Profits


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5 months ago
37 minutes 48 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess
Ep 15: Benefit of the Doubt: Insurance, Generations & Family Drama

What if your company’s employee benefits plan could be the secret weapon that keeps your top talent loyal—and even attracts new superstars through the door?


In this enlightening episode of Gen Mess with Tess, host Tess Brigham sits down with powerhouse employee benefits strategist, Sirena Dimas, to pull back the curtain on what really makes benefits matter in today’s rapidly changing workplace.


Key Highlights:

  • Why company benefits aren’t just an expense—they’re an underused asset that could drive business growth and retention (and how to shift your mindset).
  • Sirena’s unique journey from young mom to industry leader, and the “listening” skill that launched her success.
  • The generational evolution of benefits: what companies (and employees!) wanted 20 years ago versus today, including a powerful look at the rise of mental health support and financial wellness benefits.
  • Candid stories on multigenerational workplaces and families—like what happens when a Gen X, an elder Millennial, Gen Z, and Alphas all live together (hint: mediation skills come in VERY handy!).
  • Practical tips for boosting benefit engagement—open enrollment meetings, digital resources, FAQs, and why communication must match each generation’s style.

Whether you lead a business, manage a team, or just want to understand how work culture is evolving across generations, this episode is packed with the wisdom (and real-world stories) you need to start fixing the Gen Mess—one conversation at a time.


Loved this episode?

  • Share it with a manager or HR pro who wants to rethink their benefits strategy!
  • Try a new way of communicating with your colleagues this week—see what clarity and connection you can create.
  • Stay tuned and subscribe for more insights on navigating generational dynamics at work and at home.

Remember: Your benefits package and your people are your company’s greatest assets. Make sure everyone knows how to use them!




Timestamped Overview

00:00 "Gen Mess Podcast with Tess"

03:27 Insurance: A Personal Journey

07:25 Consumer Mindset: Expense to Asset

11:19 Employee Financial Literacy Gaps

13:47 Navigating Employee Health Benefits

19:54 Children Witness Work Stress

22:39 Graduating in the '90s vs. '00s

25:28 Supportive Client Relationships

29:05 Hands-On Learning Beats Tech

31:20 Printer and Battery Misunderstandings

34:18 Parenting Approaches Across Generations

37:18 "First Speaker Buys the Product"


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5 months ago
42 minutes 23 seconds

The Gen Mess with Tess

Are generational divides in the workplace and in life driving you crazy?

The Gen Mess with Tess is here to help! Hosted by Tess Brigham—certified coach, licensed therapist, TEDx speaker, author, and mom to a Gen Zer—this podcast tackles the challenges and complexities of navigating life and work across multiple generations. From the unique struggles of Gen Z to the evolving perspectives of Millennials, Gen X, and Baby Boomers, Tess brings her expertise to the table, offering practical advice, expert insights, and real conversations to bridge the generational gap. Whether you're trying to communicate better with colleagues, understand your kids, or just get a clearer perspective on the "mess" of it all, The Gen Mess with Tess is your go-to resource for understanding how different generations think, work, and live.


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