Caterina Lurani is a coach and startup investor whose unique approach bridges the outer world of business strategy with the inner world of personal awareness and growth.
With a mix of experience and intuition, Caterina helps founders uncover what’s unconsciously holding them back, take action, and transform not only their companies, but also themselves as individuals.
Caterina has a diverse background as a university researcher, startup operator, and venture capitalist. She’s also a rock-climbing guide and sailing instructor.
In today's episode we discuss:
🔹 Expectations and identity attachment
🔹 How our stories can hold us back
🔹 Balance between full agency and detachment
🔹 Reframing authority
🔹 And so much more!
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Carlitos 🐎🌊
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:02:28) Caterina's turning point in her career
(00:10:30) Overcoming our expectations
(00:13:59) Impulse VS Intuition
(00:18:57) Scientists VS Business people
(00:23:05) How the story we tell ourselves can hold us back
(00:32:40) Carlos' evolution over the years
(00:40:45) Detachment from reality: medicine or risk?
(00:47:30) Identity Attachment, how to deal with it
(00:51:11) What is the Container you want to experience your life?
(01:08:19) The Drama Triangle: Victim VS Creator
(01:15:27) Processed VS Unprocessed Needs
(01:22:08) The power of coaching
(01:27:24) Everyone is resisting coaching
(01:32:29) Overcoming verticality towards others
(01:45:37) Hierarchy VS Authority
(01:52:00) Caterina's transition to coaching
(01:55:39) The importance of a clear container
(02:04:32) Carlos' fear about coaching
(02:16:12) How to be fully committed and detached at the same time
(02:23:25) Who is Caterina's coach?
Hajo de Boer is a leadership facilitator who helps individuals and teams create meaningful change through self-awareness.
He blends mental clarity with emotional depth, transforming the way people lead, collaborate, and grow.
In this deep and raw conversation, I sit down with Hajo to explore how awareness, presence, and small conscious changes can reshape how we live, lead, and grow.
We talk about:
🔹 How self-awareness is the foundation of leadership
🔹 How lifestyle, mindset, and emotion all connect
🔹 Learning to listen to your body’s intelligence
🔹 Letting go of expectations and rewriting your story
🔹 Navigating uncertainty and embracing new chapters
🔹 Redefining success and reconnecting to intrinsic motivation
This is not your average productivity chat. It's an honest, unfiltered dialogue about life, identity, and personal evolution. I also open up about my own struggles — with presence, expectations, and career uncertainty — and Hajo helps me (and maybe you too) reframe it all.
Whether you're in transition, leadership, or just looking for clarity — this one’s for you.
Enjoy the show and keep knowing yourself!
Carlitos 🐎🌊
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CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:01:42) What leadership really means
(00:05:30) Energy, awareness, and impact in a room
(00:11:12) The power of being present
(00:14:45) Lifestyle shifts after a wake-up call
(00:21:10) Building full-spectrum energy: mental, emotional, physical, spiritual
(00:29:48) Morning routines and The Miracle Morning
(00:36:42) Atomic Habits and keeping it simple
(00:41:05) Carlos’ own journey: confusion, expectations, and finding the way
(00:49:58) A new chapter: from inspiration to creation
(00:56:20) Letting go of identity and finding your core values
(01:03:04) The importance of emotional vocabulary
(01:07:42) The power of frustration and listening to emotions
(01:12:38) Ho'oponopono and taking ownership of emotion
(01:17:08) Entrepreneurs and the pain of letting go
(01:22:55) Relationships in startups: co-founders & identity
(01:28:21) Carlos’ struggle: metrics, solitude, and redefining success
(01:37:32) Reframing progress: motivation, inspiration, space
(01:42:18) What now? Starting a new adventure
(01:46:07) Hajo’s final advice: Be curious. Be brave.
(01:48:55) Closing thoughts
Joseph O'Connell is the Founder and Art Director of Creative Machines, a multidisciplinary design and fabrication studio that creates large-scale interactive artworks and experiences worldwide that aim to spark curiosity, inspire change, and transform everyday spaces into places of connection and meaning.
In this episode, we cover:
🔹 The value of trying different experiences in your 20s and trusting the dots will connect later on
🔹 Approaching the creative process like breathing: a balance between taking in inspiration and giving back something uniquely your own
🔹 What we can learn from children and their natural creativity
🔹 Cultivating a meditative state while actively engaging with the world
🔹 How Art and Business can co-exist together
🔹 A powerful mystical experience Joseph had in India
🔹 And so much more!
🔗 CONNECT WITH JOSEPH:
Website: https://www.creativemachines.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/josephoconnellart/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/joe-oconnell
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Enjoy the show and keep creating!
Carlitos 🐎🌊
CHAPTERS:
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:01:25) A mystical encounter in India
(00:05:10) Meditation as a tool for self-awareness and transformation
(00:14:02) The creative process as a form of breathing
(00:21:13) Allowing the dots to connect
(00:29:09) The origin and mission behind Creative Machines
(00:35:27) Embracing uncertainty in your 20s
(00:38:09) Designing community through thoughtful business models
(00:44:48) Living spiritual truths through practical action
(00:50:14) Joseph's current thoughts
(00:59:45) Closing: holding dual roles in life and art
Margherita "Meg" Pagani is an activist, entrepreneur, and bridge-maker between worlds.
After a Fine Art degree and a professional volleyball career, Meg lived and travelled across 30+ countries, creating impact ventures with local groups, big organizations and indigenous communities.
Because of her work, she was recognized as a Forbes 30Under30 and Fortune 40Under40 founder, as well as a serial TEDx speaker.
Meg now focuses on helping people navigate towards their purpose, not only by understanding their unique story, pain, and power, but by encouraging them to trust life and its greater intelligence.
She combines insights from science with the wisdom of ancestral traditions to create tools to empower people on their journey of self-realization.
WHAT WILL YOU FIND ON THIS EPISODE
We will dive deep into the concept of Purpose and its relation to our Story, Pain, and Power.
In particular, Meg explains how approaching Purpose as an end goal keeps us trapped in the same patterns. Instead, as ancestral traditions teach, we should re-evaluate Purpose as a state of being rather than a destination.
Meg helps us understand that by seeing ourselves as part of a wider ecosystem (like a single cell within the greater organism of Life), we can begin to align with our true Purpose.
We also explore practical ways to tun-in with life, and Meg provides actionable tools so that you can start your own journey to self-awareness today.
Write in the comments all the questions that arise while listening! ✍️
🛠️ MEG’S FIRST TOOL TO START ALIGNING
The Tree of Power (ENG): https://m-pagani.kit.com/06c75f70d9
L’Albero del Potere (ITA): https://m-pagani.kit.com/afd89b7915
🔗 CONNECT WITH MEG:
Website: https://www.margheritapagani.com/
Instagram: https://www.instagram.com/meg_pagani/
Linkedin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/margheritamegpagani/
🙌 CONNECT WITH CARLITOS
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LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/carlos-miguel-ramos-cobo-a9995a152/
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Enjoy the show and have a great adventure!
Carlitos 🐎🌊
CHAPTERS
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:01:36) Why are we here? And what for?
(00:08:02) Meg’s initial interest in Purpose
(00:11:05) Involvement in refugee crisis and why
(00:14:20) How we look at Purpose is a trap
(00:16:28) The “Triangle of Drama”
(00:18:29) How instead ancestral traditions look at Purpose
(00:22:08) The “Higher Octave” above the “Triangle of Drama”
(00:27:38) The Chiron myth
(00:31:35) The unconscious abuse of Power
(00:37:06) The one that the world will want to carry the sword is the one that doesn’t want to carry it
(00:46:05) Success is the by-product of Romance
(00:51:02) Purpose needs 3 levels of work
(00:52:20) Some people came into the world to be Lighthouses in times of arising storms
(01:02:08) What is yours will never miss you
(01:06:09) Meg’s tuned-out chapters in life
(01:14:45) Your gifts are not yours, they are life’s. So life will always bring you back.
(01:16:25) Meg’s balance between “Adventure” and “Spirituality” in alignment with Romance
(01:24:00) Developing tools to align with Power and Purpose
(01:27:01) Overcome the “old rules of the game” on your own way!
(01:34:06) Example of Lighthouses that are changing the rules of the game
(01:36:13) Life is a wider process expressing itself through us
(01:41:34) Tune-in with life with your practices
(01:47:41) The answers we seek are experiential
(01:49:42) Advice: The first step to start tuning-in with Life
(01:52:54) Mapping tool: The Tree of Power
(01:58:33) Closing
Evgeny Shadchnev is the ex-CEO and Founder at Makers, a leading tech training provider in the UK, with customers like Google, Apple, Microsoft and over 300+ other companies.
While successfully launching and scaling the company, he faced increasing stress from challenges in both his work and personal life.
Fortunately, like the boiling frog who realizes the danger in time, Evgeny was able to listen to himself and jump out of the pot. He made the decision to step down as CEO and find a successor.
In this episode, we explore the ups and downs of this journey.
We also dive into his new life, not in a stressful London office, but peacefully on the Portuguese coast.
We see how his decision has allowed him to live a more present and authentic life.
Other topics covered in this episode:
🔹 What is a Founder Coach
🔹 CEO transition: evaluations and mistakes by founders
🔹 Work-life balance reflection
🔹 The important role of Meditation
🔹 Discussion on Free will
🔹 And so much more!
Today Evgeny is a Founder-Coach, working 1:1 with founders navigating CEO transition and other startup challenges.
He wrote a book about his own journey: Startup CEO Succession: a Founder's Guide to Leadership Transition.
He has a podcast about it: Startup CEO Succession podcast
He loves to write blogs on Substack: Unconditionally Human.
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Carlo Alberto Gaetaniello is an entrepreneur who, after raising millions and scaling his startup, found his identity deeply tied to the business.
When market shifts forced a new direction, misaligned with his expectations, he faced a severe mental breakdown.
In this episode, we explore Carlo’s journey of stepping away from his startup and embracing a new life philosophy: "A Life of Surrender".
Not a passive life, actually quite the opposite. It’s about aligning with the universe, trusting the process, and allowing life to flow through you.
This shift has brought him greater presence, awareness, and fulfillment.
Other topics covered in this episode:
- Meditation
- Neuroscience & mental health
- Science vs. Spirituality
- Teachings from Carlo’s spiritual masters
- And so much more!
📲 FOLLOW CARLO ON LINKEDIN
Today, Carlo is the Director of Business Development at Serenis, one of Italy’s leading mental health platforms. He is also the Co-Founder of Wiseair and a mentor at Techstars, one of the world’s top startup accelerators. Beyond his career, he’s an active member of the Vipassana Meditation Association in Italy and is pursuing a Master’s degree in Neuroscience and Meditation.
🎙 CONNECT WITH CARLITOS
✩ TikTok
✩ YouTube
Enjoy the show and have a great adventure!
Carlitos 🐎🌊
CHAPTERS
(00:00:00) Intro
(00:02:37) Are there too many podcasts
(00:07:35) Who is Carlo Alberto
(00:09:30) Life and career cannot be planned
(00:11:40) Living a Life of Surrender
(00:14:30) The Lion Tracker's Guide to Life by Boyd Varty
(00:18:32) My first principle
(00:21:00) Mental breakdown journey as a Founder
(00:34:50) Discovering the principle
(00:40:00) Our brain is wired for survival, not for happiness
(00:42:00) Letting go your thoughts
(00:48:58) Skepticism with spiritual masters
(00:54:43) Is formal meditation needed?
(00:55:45) First meditation retreat
(00:59:50) Meditation VS Mindfulness
(01:05:22) Becoming aware
(01:08:19) Connection between Science and Spirituality
(01:09:20) Galileo Galilei was a spiritual master?
(01:14:57) How Emotions Are Made by Lisa Feldman Barrett
(01:17:08) Scientific experiments revealing the flaws of the
mind
(01:23:40) Identification VS Awareness
(01:28:44) Satipatthana Sutta by Siddharta
(01:32:55) Is being a founder a spiritual path?
(01:47:30) Everything is perfect without your intervention
(01:50:42) Advice for the listener
Roberto Rha Pagani lived for nearly half a century in a world of certainties. After graduating with top honors, he built a successful international managerial career, from consulting to private equity.
But a profound encounter shattered those certainties, leading Roberto to deconstruct his former life and embark on a journey of inner exploration and deepened self-awareness.
Today, Roberto is a mystic and truth-seeker. He expresses himself as an author, poet, and mentor.
In this episode we discuss:
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✩ Linktree: https://linktr.ee/robertorhapagani
✩ His book —> Chiaroscuro La danza tra le polarità per svelare la Luce: https://www.ilgiardinodeilibri.it/libri/__chiaroscuro-roberto-rha-libro.php?id=217545
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- Carlitos 🐎🌊
Carlos Miguel Ramos Cobo is the host of the "The Carlitos Show".
In this (first) episode we discuss the experience of using meditation and yoga to connect and listen to yourself, the role of the unconscious mind in letting go of the past, the importance of following your heart to become free, how the book "The Alchemist" was life-changing, and much more.
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