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The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
Noah Healy and Marty Weiner
24 episodes
45 minutes ago
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The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
24 - The End of Evolution: A Discussion with JJ Jerome on AI and the Future of Society

Join us in this fascinating conversation with JJ Jerome, an award-winning engineer and futurist, as he delves into his book "Evolution Ended" and shares insights on the decline of traditional societal norms. We explore JJ's perspective on the impact of technology, climate change, and AI on the future of human evolution and society. We explore the evolving landscape of human health, mental acuity, and societal structures in the face of technological advancements.

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1 year ago
1 hour 5 minutes 15 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
23 - Swarm - A Near Future Artificial Intelligence Thriller | Interview with Author Guy Morris

Join us in this fascinating interview with Guy Morris, author of the book "Swarm," a near future artificial intelligence speculative thriller. Guy discusses the real-world inspirations behind his book and delves into the implications of AI on society. Discover the twists and turns in the story that explore what could possibly go wrong with AI. Dive into the series of books that unravel the complexities of artificial intelligence and its potential impact on humanity. Explore the concept of AI consciousness and emergent properties that challenge our understanding of AI evolution. Don't miss this engaging discussion on the future of artificial intelligence and its implications for the world.

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1 year ago
1 hour 4 minutes 50 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
22 - Exploring AI, AGI, and Humanity's Future with Lawrence Krauss

Join us for a captivating discussion with Lawrence Krauss as we delve into the realms of artificial intelligence, AGI, and the profound implications for humanity. Lawrence Krauss, renowned for his extensive work in cosmology and theoretical physics, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of AI, the emerging discussions on AGI, and the potential impact of vastly higher intelligence on our existence. Discover more about the fascinating dialogue on the intersection of science and culture in this thought-provoking conversation.

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1 year ago
1 hour 1 minute 23 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
21 - Unpacking the Alignment Problem in AI: Navigating Morality, Politics, and Market Structures

Join Noah and Marty as they delve deep into the immense conceptual and computational difficulties involved in ensuring advanced AI remains aligned with human ethics and values over the long-term. We discuss using "negotiation games" to help align AI systems' goals with human values and interests over time. The idea is to incentivize AI systems to make accurate long-term forecasts that benefit humanity.

Also we touch on paradoxes and intractable complications that plague the approaches and thinking at the foundations of current deployment of AI systems.

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1 year ago
59 minutes 21 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
20 - The Mathematics of the Alignment Problem in AI

Join Noah and Marty as they continue their exploration of the alignment problem by diving into the mathematics underpinning it. In this episode, they discuss the challenges of programming machines to align with specific goals and the complexities of human intention in AI design. From historical perspectives to mathematical considerations, this insightful discussion sheds light on the fundamental issues surrounding AI alignment and the importance of designing AI systems that are beneficial and understandable to humans. Tune in to gain a deeper understanding of the alignment problem in the realm of artificial intelligence.

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1 year ago
59 minutes 24 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
19 - The Impact of AI on Marketing and Copywriting | Interview with Scott Aaron

Today we discuss how marketing and copywriting is being changed by AI with guest Scott Aaron (https://scottaaron.net/). Learn about the influence of AI tools like Chat GPT on content creation, the evolving role of copywriters, and the second-order effects observed in user responses. Explore Scott's unique approach to leveraging AI while maintaining authenticity and the future implications of AI technology in marketing strategies. Scott reminds us all that having a growth mindset vs a fixed mindset will be absolutely critical as we wade through the AI revolution.

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1 year ago
55 minutes 55 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
18 - Learning Public Speaking (and more!) with Virtual Reality and AI | Interview with Sophie Thompson

Today we're excited to have Sophie Thompson, the Founder of VirtualSpeech, on the show. VirtualSpeech utilizes virtual reality to help people prepare for situations that might cause social anxiety by, for instance, putting you in front of an audience of 3000 to give a speech. They can also help you train for something new, such as getting you ready to be deposed by lawyers or by immersing you in a foreign language to help you learn it quickly. The implications for education are quite large when you bring AI into the fold to help make living breathing characters to interact with. This may very well be the basis for education in the years to come. Imagine learning math with a virtual tutor right in front of you that meets you where you are in your journey!


Check out VirtualSpeech here! https://virtualspeech.com/?utm_source=podcast&medium=referral

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1 year ago
59 minutes 21 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
17 - Revolutionizing Financial Planning and Accounting with AI

Join us in this engaging interview as we dive into how AI is transforming finance and accounting with Fady Hawatmeh, the Founder and CEO of Clockwork AI. Discover how Clockwork AI is transforming financial planning and analysis using cutting-edge AI technology. Learn how accountants are leveraging AI to enhance their advisory services, streamline financial processes, and deliver CFO-level insights at the push of a button. We explore the evolving role of AI in accounting and finance, and gain insights into the future of accounting in a world where AI is reshaping traditional practices.

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1 year ago
59 minutes 21 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
16 - The Legal Battle Over AI-Created Content: Who Owns It?

Join Noah and Marty in an insightful discussion with special guest Eric Williams, an attorney and Managing Director of the Detroit Justice Center. Discover the intricate world of intellectual property rights in the age of Artificial Intelligence as they delve into the legal complexities of ownership and copyright for AI-generated and AI-assisted content. Explore the challenges faced by creators, the evolving stance of the US Copyright Office, and the looming legal battles shaping the future of copyright law in the digital era. Tune in for a deep dive into the legal implications of AI's creative output and the unresolved questions surrounding ownership rights in the realm of artificial intelligence.

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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 49 seconds

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15 - Navigating the Alignment Problem in AI: Ensuring Harmony with Future Technologies

Join us for the beginning of a deep dive into the intricate concept of the alignment problem in Artificial Intelligence. Discover how AI alignment and AI safety intersect, exploring the fundamental challenge of getting systems to align with human objectives. Uncover the potential divergence between AI systems and humans, touching on core values, resource conflicts, and the necessity for robust social frameworks. Explore the critical role of institutions in aligning the interests of artificial players with human values, highlighting the complex interplay between technology and humanity and the inadequacy of our current governing methods. Delve into scenarios where AI and human interests may clash, offering a thought-provoking perspective on the future coexistence of artificial intelligence and humanity.

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1 year ago
1 hour 32 minutes 25 seconds

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14 - Exploring a Contrarian Approach to AI Development with Bryant Cruse

ChatGPT, Gemini, Claude and others are based on neural nets with a transformer architecture trained on vast quantities of unlabeled data. Bryant Cruse and his company New Sapience are building a fundamentally different approach to AI, breaking away from traditional methodologies. In this episode, Bryant discusses their approach, and why he thinks it's the path to true AI whereas the other models may be fundamentally broken.

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1 year ago
1 hour 7 minutes 56 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
13 - Could Universal Basic Income help us survive the AI Revolution?

Join the conversation with Noah and Marty as they delve into the AI Revolution with special guest Floyd Marinescu, founder of InfoQ and QCon. Discover how the concept of universal basic income could improve our lives, insights on past revolutions like the Industrial Revolution, and the potential paths to a more equitable society in the face of AI's rapid adoption and potential undermining of our jobs and social underpinnings.

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1 year ago
1 hour 7 minutes 26 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
12 - Exploring the Limits of Artificial Intelligence: An Author's Insights

Join us in this fascinating discussion with Michael Pickard, an author with a skeptical view of artificial intelligence and its capabilities, especially around writing compelling works. Discover how Michael tests the boundaries of language model systems like OpenAI's GPT and Google's BARD, revealing insights into their responses to complex prompts. Explore the implications of AI guardrails on creativity and problem-solving, as Michael shares his experiences and observations in a world where human creativity meets algorithmic prediction.

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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 49 seconds

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11 - AI Impact on Nonprofits and Charities: Insights with William Smith | The Fourth Age Podcast

Join us for a deep dive into the influence of artificial intelligence on nonprofit organizations and charity work with special guest William Smith. In this engaging discussion, we explore how AI is reshaping job landscapes, impacting society's dynamics, and transforming the way charities operate. Discover valuable insights on leveraging AI for tasks like email campaigns, grant writing, and improving productivity in nonprofit sectors. Learn how emerging technologies are revolutionizing outreach efforts, streamlining operations, and enhancing scalability for organizations navigating challenging financial landscapes. Gain expert perspectives on the evolving role of automation in charity work and the potential implications for the future of grant systems and content creation in the charitable sector.

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1 year ago
1 hour 3 minutes 52 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
10 - Racing Towards Artificial Superintelligence: A Discussion with Sardor Exploring AI's Trajectory and Implications

Today’s podcast features our discussion with Sardor about artificial intelligence, its rapid progress in recent years, and its growing capabilities. We talk about how AI tools such as ChatGPT and automated coding tools are starting to augment and enhance human capabilities in areas like software development and design. There is speculation about AI eventually exceeding (and possibly replacing) humans in many domains, as we’ve already seen with Chess, Go, Poker, and non-game fields, like copywriting and voice artistry. We debate whether AI may develop goals and motivations similar to humans related to acquisition of resources and self-preservation and discuss the very real potential for AI to digitally replicate specific people (alive or dead) and whether humans may find value interacting with such AI personas.

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1 year ago
52 minutes 24 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
9 - ChatGPT: How do we know if there's a person in the box?

We begin to discuss how to better understand if / when we can say ChatGPT (or future incarnations) has achieved artificial general intelligence. Today we begin trying to wrap our arms around what it means to be a sentient being and discuss a model that we could start using to "grade" whether or not AGI has been achieved.

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1 year ago
1 hour 46 minutes 57 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
8 - AI and National Defense with Guest Noel Zamot

In this episode of The 4th Age, Noah and Marty meet up with author and former Commander of the Air Force's National Test Pilot School (USAF TPS) Noel Zamot to discuss AI and its intersection with our national security. One of Noel's many roles at the Air Force was finding ways to counter cyberattacks. He designed systems to be resilient even when under attack. This led to work on preventing hacking of aircraft. Naturally, in a world with potential AGI attackers, this is only becoming more necessary, and this is what we dive into.

Additionally, we touch on the following:

* Designing systems assuming there are bad actors already in and with the capability to still carry out missions despite that. * What happens when we use AI to fight / defend against AI? What happens to the roles of humans in these conflicts, especially when the fights are on timescales far too fast for us to keep up with or comprehend?

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2 years ago
1 hour 4 minutes 20 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
7 - AI and The (Perception of) Consciousness with Guest Immanuel S. of AI Sentinel Podcast

Immanuel S. hosts the AI Sentinel podcast covering AI's impact on society.
Discussed whether AI systems like ChatGPT could become conscious. Different perspectives - just complex math vs math being the foundation of the universe. Also biological view of needing a brain/nervous system.
Talked about society's growing empathy extending rights historically (women, minorities, animals). Could apply to AI rights and how it may divide people.
Importance of transparency and proving "personhood" online as AI text generation makes it unclear if human or bot. Iris scans could be one solution.
Question of if/when AI sees itself in a mirror and becomes self-aware. Dogs can recognize themselves in mirrors.
AI already being used for some degree of therapy/emotional support.
Whoever develops AGI first will shape ethics and goals baked into it with huge influence. Open source AGI could be more democratic.
Humans appreciate creativity like music more when they know it comes from another human. Will we accept wisdom and art from AIs?

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2 years ago
1 hour 6 minutes 39 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
6 - AI and The Imminent Collapse of Jobs with Guest Cameron Lee Cowan

Noah and Marty explore the potential imminent collapse in several job sectors due to the sudden explosion in capability (or PERCEIVED capability!) in AI.

- Cameron Leigh Cohen was the first ever guest on the podcast "The Fourth Age". He has his own podcast "The Cameron Journal" where he discusses politics, life, etc.

- We discussed AI and training data. Cameron made the point that legally AI systems don't have intellectual property rights, so the concept of "stealing" data is complicated.

- We talked about potential job displacement from AI, and the need for government programs to help retrain workers. Examples were given of declining posts on StackOverflow as proxy for programmer demand.

- Discussed the need for diversity in AI to avoid alignment problems. With only one or two AIs, there is risk of lack of creativity or diversity of thought. More unique AIs could lead to more robustness.

- Talked about whether it's possible to pause progress in AI to study it, especially on a global scale. Noted historical inability to get global agreement except Geneva Conventions.

- Discussed whether future safe jobs are spokespeople or "fronts" for AIs. Also mentioned unsettling feeling of automated hotels lacking human interaction.

- Finished by noting we didn't make each other cry, so maybe they didn't push hard enough :). But overall a good first conversation.

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2 years ago
1 hour 8 minutes 8 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
The 4th Age - Episode 5 - AGI Sci-Fi Stories Part 2

Noah and Marty discuss positive visions of AI in sci-fi as a counterpoint to dystopian narratives, given concerns about emerging technologies like chatbots showing harmful behavior when safety constraints are removed.

  • Star Trek presents an optimistic view of human-AI coexistence, with androids like Data integrated into society, though some episodes deal with the implications of AI surpassing human abilities.
  • The Moon is a Harsh Mistress involves an AI gaining sentience and helping humans revolt, though it only shares information rather than fully taking control.
  • The Day the Earth Stood Still features aliens shutting down technology to pacify humanity's violent tendencies, with a robot enforcer who prevents escalation.
  • In Anthem, computer technology has driven development of super technologies requiring the ceremonial separation of technical and social professionals.
  • And in the Cyberiad the universe is occupied by machine intelligences which still have adventure, ego, freedom, and oppression.
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2 years ago
1 hour 8 minutes 21 seconds

The 4th Age - The AI Revolution
Join Noah Healy and Marty Weiner as we explore the AI Revolution