Noah and Marty explore the potential imminent collapse in several job sectors due to the sudden explosion in capability (or PERCEIVED capability!) in AI.

- Cameron Leigh Cohen was the first ever guest on the podcast "The Fourth Age". He has his own podcast "The Cameron Journal" where he discusses politics, life, etc.

- We discussed AI and training data. Cameron made the point that legally AI systems don't have intellectual property rights, so the concept of "stealing" data is complicated.

- We talked about potential job displacement from AI, and the need for government programs to help retrain workers. Examples were given of declining posts on StackOverflow as proxy for programmer demand.

- Discussed the need for diversity in AI to avoid alignment problems. With only one or two AIs, there is risk of lack of creativity or diversity of thought. More unique AIs could lead to more robustness.

- Talked about whether it's possible to pause progress in AI to study it, especially on a global scale. Noted historical inability to get global agreement except Geneva Conventions.

- Discussed whether future safe jobs are spokespeople or "fronts" for AIs. Also mentioned unsettling feeling of automated hotels lacking human interaction.

- Finished by noting we didn't make each other cry, so maybe they didn't push hard enough :). But overall a good first conversation.