FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: lifting people up at work - unawareness - denying your own abilities - being warned by other women - coronatests - doubting yourself - equality, for everyone.

Recorded on 23 Αugust 2025 at Noorderzon, Groningen, the Netherlands, with staff members of the academic hospital of Groningen: the UMCG.

(01:22) Anne [°1987 - Leeuwarden, NL]: “My bosses lifted me up and took me really serious. More serious than I took myself."

(05:10) Corinna [°1968 - Eelde, NL]: “Maybe we can all understand each other more. Ask questions."

(09:37) Serée [°1986 - Groningen, NL]: “I have four kids in the whole gender range. About the clear girl, aged four: 'she is a bit bossy'. I went tiger-mom."

(14:03) Margriet Bos [°1967 - Groningen, NL]: "The professor said something very sexually motivated. Maybe 15 years ago. I had forgotten about it. It sticks because you feel so powerless. Because it is not very clear. And he is a professor..."

(19:20) Margie [°1981 - Groningen, NL]: "I work as a molecular biologist. This friend continued and continued to explain how the coronatests work to me. I just let it go."

(23:50) Carina [°1968 - Eelde, NL]: "The little self-doubts add up and up and up. My youngest works in a café now, I learn a lot from her."

(28:28) Mariska [°1985 - Groningen, NL]: "Me being white, my husband being black, people ask me if my children are from here, if they are even mine. My oldest one at school: a kid comes up and says: "Black people are less than us." And the school saying: "yes, but this is a white school..." Keep shouting."

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: going home after work - tradition - tea - responsibilities for other people's happiness.

Recorded on 23 Αugust 2025 at Noorderzon, Groningen, the Netherlands.

(01:17) Nikkie [°1968 - Amsterdam, NL]: “The science world is hard to work in, especially when you are a female, when you have kids, and you want to go home."

(07:03) Judith [°1981]: “I work in visual arts. It is tight and conservative."

(11:20) Rutger Doting [°1999]: “If you are drinking tea as a man in the Netherlands, you are a wuss."

(17:44) Suzanna [°1980 - Amsterdan, NL]: On the chain of responsibility for the happiness of parents, siblings, children and partner. "It sometimes feels like: where is the responsibility of making me happy."

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: cancelling - the balancing act - being forgotten in illness in illness - feeling powerless.

Recorded on 11 May 2025 at Theaterfestival Auawirleben at the Dampfzentrale in Bern, Switzerland. 

(02:18) Yaniv [°1977 - Israel]: “You have an argument with someone and instead of relating with what they say, you explain why they would say something like that.”

(08:22) Anna [°1997 - Zofingen, CH]: “Especially as a woman, you try to do this balancing act and then you realize: “Oh no, I’ve again thought of other people’s opinion before I thought about what I want”.

(13:04) Antonia [°2003 - Switzerland]: “It’s a mindset I’m taking on when I feel like I’m not being heard correctly.”

(19:00) Vinny [°1995 - Zoug, CH]: “Since I’ve been chronically ill, I’ve been in bed so much. And I feel like chronically ill people get forgotten a lot, or they’re not invited into spaces, because they’re too complicated.”

(23:19) Titien [°1993 - Winterthur, CH]: “What makes me feel powerless is the state of the world right now, and that we are inheriting a patriarchy that we never wanted but that has been laid on all of us.”

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: not doing an ‘extraordinary’ job - not having opinions - underestimating discrimination - the need to be softer.

Recorded on 10 May 2025 at Theaterfestival Auawirleben at the Dampfzentrale in Bern, Switzerland. 

(01:39) Melissa [°1992 - Ankara, TU]: “You get up one morning, you find a letter in your letterbox, they tell you to get out of the country. And then you have to go to the bar, after your 10 hours working and you have to serve people their afterwork beer with a smile. Then they tell me that I’m not doing an extraordinary job.” 

(07:19) Maria [°1986 - Vladivostok, RU]: “I was about 7 or 8, and I was trying to prove something to my stepfather, and he told me: ‘we cannot have a dialogue, because to have a dialogue, you have to have your opinion, but you don’t have opinions.’”

(12:53) Effy [°2003 - Bern, CH]: “I always have the same reaction: ‘why do you work against discrimination in Switzerland, we don’t have any discrimination here’. It’s just sad and actually quite dangerous.”

(19:31) Nico [°1977 - Bern, CH]: “Maybe we should educate all children the way females have been brought up: to question your knowledge, and to be a bit softer about super-imposing whatever you think.” 

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In this episode: making your own table - selfcare of a grandmother - carrying your country's responsibilities - abortion. 

Recorded on 8 May 2025 at Frascati in Amsterdam. 

(01:38) Sarah [°1996 - Utrecht]: “I really struggled being taken seriously because of my age, being a young woman in a very male dominated environment.” 

(06:50) Juan Andres [°1996 - Caracas, VEN]: “I’ve been leading marketing teams since very early in my career and I was always amazed at how, being so young and so tiny, I was able to do that.”

(10:05) Raquel van Haver [°1989 - Bogota, COL]: “The moment you don’t speak up, the moment you keep silent, the moment you just look away, that’s the moment you’re actually the loudest.”

(15:15) Kristina [°1979 - Moscow, RU]: “Everything that I loved and admired so much, actually broke down and shattered.”

(19:03) Adi [°1996 - India]: about seeing his grandmother in scarce moments of selfcare, oiling her body.

(24:38) Alydia [°1974 - Oranjestad, Aruba]: “When I was 18, I had my first boyfriend and I got pregnant. I decided not to have that child because I’m a child myself. I was 18 and I had dreams, I had visions, I need to study, I need to move, I need to do things. So I had an abortion.”

(35:40) What do you deserve? “To be immune to those that can hurt you” “To have tears, to have feelings and to share them.”

For each episode of FOR REAL, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews: Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery, George Dumitriu

Sound engineer: Hayden Hook

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Instagram: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

This episode was recorded on the 8th of March 2025 at Gigant Apeldoorn, hosted by Artez University of the Arts.

In this episode:

(01:50) David [°1998 - Rotterdam, NL]: "In some sense, it feels like you’re always still proving yourself, also in your insecurities."

(06:10) Daniela [°1997 - Salerno, IT]: "I really have the feeling that every time I talk with someone I have to give the correct answer because if I made a mistake then I’m not good enough and I’m not in that same level. And I feel that especially with men."

(11:06) Chris [°1995 - Maastricht, NL]: "My students, they are very vulnerable. And I’m just scared to send them into a world where there are so many professionals in the field who might take advantage of them in that way. But I’m also hopeful, because the world has changed in the last few years. They are also more aware."

(15:44) Trinke [°1992 - Maastricht, NL]: "Especially in that region of the country, where women were just supposed to be there for the family, my mother was the one with the better education and she was the bread winner of our household. […] I actually like a lot that she didn’t make too much of a fuss about these things. It gives me the energy and the security to do things my way."

(18:40) Marianna [°1997 - Olivella, ES]: "We need to sell ourselves in the perfect way. Every time we speak, every time we play we need to make sure that that’s the right thing. And what makes me really angry is that I also do that with other women."

(24:22) What do you deserve? "To trust that I can do it" "The patience to give me more time to digest and thing about everything."

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Insta: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

This episode was recorded on the 10th of March 2025 at TU Delft, the Netherlands, hosted by DEWIS.

In this episode:

(01:40) Seju [°2000 - Mahoba, IN]: "I am afraid people see me as someone who is not from Europe. 'This is where you come from so this is perhaps how you think, what you do and what you like.' That is scary. I would want people to see me behind their own vices. Not as a female engineer, who can only be interested in female problems." "So much is overlooked because of your gender." "What exactly?" "Those are thoughts I do not want to think about."

(08:00) Parisa [°1995, IR]: "I am not taken seriously and left out at meetings here at TUDelft. Which doesn't make sense to me: it is a scientific discussion. In one-to-one discussions I always feel heard, but in groups with men not, I feel left out. I constantly feel I need to make my voice heard, and I shouldn't. If I force it, it becomes a pity-attention, and that also does not work. I don't understand why this happens. How can we solve this?"

(13:23) Carolina [°1999, PT]: "'Are you sure you can do that?' That hits you with embarrassment, to take up your own space. It is some shame, especially when you are young. It was said to me that my presence was essential because I had to bring some peace into a room of male energy. Almost mothering me. They were old enough to be my father. But they are not sexist, right? Because they have mothers and daughters they do respect, they are just trying to protect me..."

(19:29) Tracy Davis [°1985, Capetown, SA]: "Not only being a female but also a female of colour, especially from South Africa with a painful history, based on race. You are filling the quota and it is also a big responsibility. Trying to be the example. It's also something to be grateful for: you are able to try, to step out. To be able to empower the others."

(25:41) Victory [°1994, Nigeria] and Natalie Mesa [°1991, Peru]: about micromachismo, "being called Natisita in my first job as an engineer in the mining sector. The others were 'doctor' even though they were not." And: "Hey mom, you are strong, you are brave and I love you. My mom has 7 girls and 1 boy and went to university after having all of us. She just pulled through and kept up showing up every day."

(32:40) What do you deserve? "To be free to just be." "To have space to act when we need it, but also rest when we need it." "The relief to not need to be a superwoman." "The benefit of the doubt." "To be myself, even if I change the way I am at some point." "Support."

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Insta: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

This episode was recorded on the 23d of November 2024, Explore the North, Leeuwarden (NL).

In this episode:

(01:26) Minke [°1952 - Wolvega, Friesland, NL]: reflects on female leadership. "A leader who humiliates, is not a leader."

(05:13) Janneke [°2001, Wierden, NL]: "I am a musician, and technicians feel the urge to explain me where the ON-button is on an amp. Explaining me I am not holding my guitar correctly."

(09:26) Eva [°1989, Leeuwarden,NL]: "The patriarchal system is heavy and unsafe for everyone."

(12:55) Sytzke [°2003, a village next to Leeuwarden,NL]: "I feel the responsibility to be bubbly. Especially in conversation with men, I feel I need to make them feel seen. Women resonate with that. Afterwards, I feel really drained." And the secret of showing interest.

(18:55) Johannes [°2001, Oostende, BE] and Tessa [°1998, Woerden, NL]: about being on tour with a female technician, and everyone always addressing Johannes. "What can I do apart from using tricks?" Tessa: "Is it OK to call people out on their behavior? I wish people would dare to say: 'this is not OK.'"

(24:55) What do you deserve? "To feel safe, without being kept on my toes."

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Insta: resonate.productions || facebook.com/musicaljournalism || www.resonate-productions.com

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

This episode was recorded on the 30th of October 2024, Schuur, Haarlem, 20u (NL).

In this episode:

(01:48) Emmy [°1988 - USA] asks musician Sarah about the red threads in all the interviews of FOR REAL so far.

(4:07) Anonymous: "I went to art school and I was in the year with a rapist. Everybody excused that guy. Teachers only going to the bar with the men, sniffing coke together. People say to you: "Oh, but you can really see it was made by a women". And then you think it must be me, my art is not good enough. I am running an art space now, trying to do the exact opposite of what I was taught in art school."

(08:05) Lilly [NL] "What responsibilities lie on your shoulders? Is that in the first place I am a mum. I have two beautiful daughters (...) what I try to do in raising them is to make them strong and resilient. Show them that they really have to be themselves."

(14:08) Anonymous: "I had a fight at work where I was treated very unjustly. I told it to my therapist. And she said: 'are you aware you are telling me this with a huge smile?' It's something a lot of women do. It's probably because it is safer to be friendly all the time than to be angry".

(17:05) Sil: "I felt very much how much the world at the moment needs women. There is so much we can do and a man can not." E.g. on the privilege of giving birth to children. "We are lucky to be a woman. I feel that every day."

(20:59) Robin: "I deserve pleasure. And this is difficult for me, because when I was born, the doctor did not see a willie so he said "it's a girl". I'm 33 now and a couple of years ago I came to realise that that small sentence trapped me. I think, people are worried for my happiness. That's an experience that you feel at ease with yourself. Joy beyond the labels. I think that's what we all deserve."

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

This episode was recorded on the 30th of October 2024, Schuur, Haarlem, 17u30.

In this episode:

(01:25) Jolanda [°1969 - Terschelling, NL] "We need the other 50% too, to start to make a difference. I would love to find men who say: I was one of those men and I'm sorry."

(04:50) Tuhin [°1988 - Kolkata, IN] "When I work with women, I see they put in 20 times the work. They question if they belong here. That confidence will take a lot of time to build. This is very counterproductive to the ecosystem. We all play a role here."

(10:05) Francesca [°1991 - Montepulciano, IT] "The responsibilities... towards my daughter. Her education, giving her food, transmitting values. Breaking the chain of traumas I am inheriting from the past. Which might be one of the hardest responsibilities on my shoulders. Transmit her the feeling she is not alone in her struggles in the world. She does not need to surrender to the individualism around us."

(14:19) Gina [°1990 - Amsterdam, NL] "Everybody listens to my brother all the time, he talks all the time. That frustrates me. I wanted my family to listen to me. I raised my voice, the response was: 'Gina! You put all the attention on you! You are probably drunk.' I had to laugh and then I got really sad."

(19:34) Rachel [°1983 - Leeds, UK] speaks with Tabitha [°1987 - Albuquerque, USA]

who was thinking about her mother a lot. "I was a responsibility on her shoulders. She cleaned houses and felt invisible."

Rachel speaks about the fear to speak out, and experiments with expressing herself in public, for example in her own music. It takes a lot of courage.

(24:35) Marelie [°1978] meets Durga [°43 years old, I think]. "I said no to be interviewed by Andrea. I think only sad stories about women will be remembered. I was worried people only remember sad stories. I deserve a strong voice. We deserve strong stories."

Marelie: "My mom was sent off as an au pair, her brother was allowed to go to college. I am so happy to hear different stories from the people in their 20s now."

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Find us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | resonate-productions.com

info@resonate-productions.com 

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

This episode was recorded on the 27th of October 2024, POM, Eindhoven (NL).

In this episode:

(01:25) Saskia [°1970 - Groningen, NL] on the position of women in physics. "I am full of stories. I have been interviewing female physicists of color and I was crying behind my laptop. And then a colleagues is telling me I am making things up."

(06:42) Arnoud [°1978 - Zeist, NL] "I am the oldest son of the oldest son. So responsibility becomes a big issue. Be in control." And a U-turn that had to be taken.

(12:37) Mauricio Diaz [°1981 - Mexico City] "A very important thing is to matter and to be respected. And to be alive."

(18:23) Inge [°1988 - USA/NL] recently became a mother herself, which started conversations with her own mother. "It's so similar, what we experienced. Which makes me sad. Women are still so pushed as women."

(21:47) Astrid [°1990 - Columbia] "I loose my voice. I do want to say things, but feel that nothing that I would be capable to say is meaningful. Because I have been harmed, I don't want to harm."

(26:44) What do you deserve? To be more proud of myself. To be able to speak my mind. To be respected as a man in my vulnerability. To be loved and be happy, as we all do.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Find us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | resonate-productions.com

info@resonate-productions.com 

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

This episode was recorded on the 7th of September 2024, at Gaudeamus, Theater Kikker, Utrecht.

In this episode:

(02:01) Ellen [°1960 - Rotterdam, NL] on an exam of instrumentation in musicology, and the demand of a retake, for the sake of being taken seriously.

(05:55) Emily [°1996 - Canterbury, UK] on appearing as a white woman, when her mother is from Bagdad, who studied mechanical engineering. "My appearance is a barrier to talking about her and her experiences."

(09:40) Daniela Bittman [°1952 - Romania] "I am very agressive. One of my bosses pinched my behind. What do you think I did? I turned around and pinched him."

(14:15) Elsa [°2004 - Sydney, AU] on the responsibility to be nice to men who offer her advise she does not need. "It would feel scary to say: no thank you, leave me alone."

(18:08) Lilly (CH) and Alberto (ES) on not having female friends. On needing both. How can women and men be friends?

(27:00) What do you deserve? "The freedom to be a man who looks after children. Not to be judged and not to feel less of a man, for doing that."

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Intern: Tor Lindquist

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Find us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | resonate-productions.com

info@resonate-productions.com 

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In this special episode of FOR REAL, the team looks back at the journey so far. Every team member brings their favourite fragment, which leads us to conversations on what it took to build this project.

With Sarah Jeffery (recorders & voice), Burkhard Körner (outside-eye), Hayden Hook (sound engineer), George Dumitriu (viola & guitar) and Andrea Voets (harp & musical journalism).

Part 3 of 3.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this special episode of FOR REAL, the team looks back at the journey so far. Every team member brings their favourite fragment, which leads us to conversations on what it took to build this project.

With Sarah Jeffery (recorders & voice), Burkhard Körner (outside-eye), Hayden Hook (sound engineer), George Dumitriu (viola & guitar) and Andrea Voets (harp & musical journalism).

Part 2 of 3.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

In this special episode of FOR REAL, the team looks back at the journey so far. Every member brings their favourite fragment, which leads us to conversations on what it took to build this project.

With Sarah Jeffery (recorders & voice), Burkhard Körner (outside-eye), Hayden Hook (sound engineer), George Dumitriu (viola & guitar) and Andrea Voets (harp & musical journalism).

The book that kickstarted this project is 'the Authority Gap' by Mary Ann Sieghart.

Part 1 of 3.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information.

FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions. This episode was recorded on the 15th of June 2024, at Toets des Tijds, VEEM, Amsterdam.

In each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

In this episode:

(01:42) Fie [°1972 - Amsterdam, NL] tells about talking to the board of a cultural fund, who asked her: “where do you actually make your living from?” And not being able to speak her mind in that moment. And a rhetoric question: “would this question be asked to a man?”

(05:07) Hans [°1971 - Amsterdam, NL] describes how he was kicked out of a choir, at the moment he had prepared drinks and snacks for the group.

(09:51) Izak [°1996 - Amsterdam, NL] on proving your own masculinity: “What it is, I cannot tell you.” And 40 micro-agressions in one day, today. “Today was a good day.”

(15:40) Conny [°1952 - Rotterdam, NL] on being the outlier at school, the consequences for your sense of self and an epiphany of self-respect. 

(18:37) Karmit [°1996 - Treuchtlingen, DE] is a female composer. “Voicing your opinion as a woman has consequences, so I don’t dare to share examples here, so you actually feel powerless.” “I would love there to come a point that there is no need anymore for us to share the examples. Because the fact that we need to share it, is horrible.”

(20:27) Luke [°1990 - London, UK] on people pleasing. “I spent a lot of my life making sure everyone is OK about me. That makes it really hard for me to confess to people when I’m not feeling OK.” 

Karmit: feeling like you ruin everything when you speak your mind. 

(23:24) What do you deserve? To be me, with all the good and the bad. Love. Being sinterklaas. To get it wrong sometimes. A role model, not to feel alone. 

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Intern: Tor Lindquist

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions. This episode was recorded on the 18th of May 2024, 20u, at O. festival in Rotterdam.

For each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

In this episode:

(01:35) Madelief [°2007 - Shanghai, CN] on a colleague, sinking down to his knees to get to eye level. And real guy friends, who prefer to chat with other guys than to sit with Madelief.

(05:02) Salomé [°1977 - Amstelveen, NL] is short and blond. A busdriver spelled out "this bus is going to the u-ni-ver-si-ty" to her. On surprising and countering people. "There is more to her than you see".

(08:05) Lindertje [°1986 - Hoorn, NL] on men, coming to her after her performances, commenting: your body is amazing. "All the other things were less impressive than my body." Not the artwork. On people who don't believe she creates her own performances. Andrea asks -for a friend- how to bring it across, that you are making your own work.

(14:00) Ellen [°1982 - Voorburg, NL] is a medical anthropologist. She writes when she wants to be heard. On a history of being tested and having to prove yourself. On being seen as the vessel of your baby, by a gynecologist, not having a say in how to give birth. "I looked at the literature and wrote a 5-page letter with all studies attached." After which she got granted decision-making power. "I wish I would have been able to just focus on being pregnant."

(20:12) Andy [°1986 - California, USA] "Andy is an ambiguous name: ‘Oh, I thought you were going to be a man.’ I would like to people not be disappointed by seeing me show up." And receiving unwanted advise from a male professor on interviewing subjects for research: "wear make up, be pleasant, accommodating and genuinely interested in the other person." 

(24:40) What do you deserve? You may want everything you want. Respect: no one should forget Respect. To know that you matter, regardless of people's gendered expectations.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Intern: Tor Lindquist

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions. This episode was recorded on the 18th of May 2024, 15u, at O. festival in Rotterdam.

For each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

In this episode:

(01:45) Ali [°2001 - Istanbul, TR] on the feeling of being tricked, earlier that day. Why do you have to do that?

(07:55) Barbara [°1980 - Breukelen, NL] on where it started: not being taken seriously. Never, by her parents, in anything. "I get your sister, she is like me. But you, I don't get."

(11:36) Stef [°1995 - Almere, NL] on how zero responsibility lies on his shoulders. And how that is not necessarily a good thing. On the military, on not having family, or the possibility to have kids, and friendships in which your friends are more important to you than you to them. "It's weird because noone is doing anything bad to me. But it feels like I don't matter."

And the most desired responsibility: a free school for the arts. "I was supposed to die a few times, went to art school, and that's the best thing I ever did, in this world."

(17:37) Karin Charlotte [° - Sachsen, East-DE] speaks from her lifetime in the former DDR. On the valuing of life, nature and children vs. destructive powers towards those entities. "How can you allow yourself to be pregnant?" of a third child. How does valuing show? "When I can stand up."

(22:09) Chris [°1985 - Lelystad, NL] asks Marleen what he can practically do, feeling powerless as a white heterosexual male.

(24:30) Marleen had a partner who told her not to study literature, because "it was a stupid choice, it won't bring you money." Even graduating cum laude does not mean anything in that field.

"It's better now, but it's not. But something is happening. Look at you, asking me what to do."

(28:57) Tina [°1954 - Indonesia] speaks in the language of her mother, Dutch. Her mother is still alive in her, and gave her life to her family. "Mom, you did so well!" Giving me all freedom, without any pressure to e.g. create grandchildren. "Go do your thing!"

(29:11) Maaike brought her kid to school and was stopped by one teacher to enter the schoolyard to say goodbye to her child. "I was actually angry, but you have to be polite, you can't be the over-concerned hysterical mother. And a dad can just walk in with his child. I felt paternalised, like I was an obnoxious idiot." And how to deliver your message as a woman.

(36:48) What do you deserve? What all people deserve: to be free and be seen without being judged on superficial things - The sadness: that this is the hardest question.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Intern: Tor Lindquist

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions. This episode was recorded on the 17th of May 2024, 20u, at O. festival in Rotterdam.

For each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

In this episode:

(01:40) Laura [°1998 - Haarlem, NL] on (not) being taken seriously in her entity as an art historian, writing for platform De KunstMeisjes: the Art Girls.

(04:54) Beverly [°1974 - USA] on feeling excluded, all the time, in her life as a filmmaker, artist and librettist. As a visible minority, you cannot not notice it. Eg. in pitching ideas for gatekeepers: they should fit into a "minority life". Gun crimes and prostitution.

(11:10) Vernon [°1984 - Curaçao] wants his mother to be her full self. To pursue her 19-year old dreams, after she pursued her children's dreams first, in intense self-sacrifice. "Go for it mama. It ain't over till it's over".

(16:42) What do you deserve? 

Tieche [°1977 - Rotterdam, NL] : to be more self-confident, and not be in doubt forever. 

Maaike [°1999 - Tuitjenhoorn, NL] : was doubting to come to the middle, because everything she would say should be perfect. She deserves : to speak, whether it is important or not.

Chabelle [°1993 - Rotterdam, NL] : to not live in fear or prosecution because of the government turning against you.

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Intern: Tor Lindquist

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Find us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | resonate-productions.com

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FOR REAL is a podcast on human dignity, made by Resonate Productions. This episode was recorded on the 17th of May 2024 at the Professionals Programme of O. festival in Rotterdam.

For each episode, we get together with a group of people in a theater, to look into what it means to matter as a person. All interviews are carried by improvised music, made by George Dumitriu (viola, guitar), Sarah Jeffery (recorders) and Andrea Voets (harp).

In this episode:

(01:47) Lorenzo [°1999 - Chieti, IT] on humiliation, and the need to step back into your mother’s womb. What makes you want to make me feel small? Gently: maybe someone did that to you. 

(05:57) Asia Ahmetjanova [°1992 - Riga, Latvia] on the sadness of putting artificial clothing around what you have to say. The leak of energy: feeding the monster instead of being able to focus on what matters to you. And the upside to this: the value of politeness. 

(11:06) For [Lise], it’s time for water. To savour the moment, with so many awful things happening around us. A big thank you. And the one thank-you of her child, that stands forever. 

(12:59) [Sarah] on the possibility of children thanking their parents, in different stages of life. 

Turning to her mother when she had small children: “Thank you and I have no idea how you did it.”

(16:39) [Mary - probably the oldest person in the room, Scotland] thanks the men in the room for listening to all of this. On older women being very, very unkind to her and the ‘special place in hell’ of Madeleine Albright, and trying to work up the kind of kindness that Lorenzo talked about.

(17:49) Krystian [°1983 - Warsaw, PL] on the feeling of one body being the oppressor and the oppressed at the same time. On representing queerness in the opera-houses, and how senior women respond to that shift in masculinity. 

(23:25) What do you deserve? More free time for ourselves (since women are really trying to save the world- and just respect each other. “There’s a hierarchy of minorities now and maybe, there’s a political plan behind it. Let’s just not get divided.”

Made by Resonate Productions -creating musical journalism-

Music & interviews by Andrea Voets, Sarah Jeffery & George Dumitriu

Sound & recording by Hayden Hook - Dam Recordings

Intern: Tor Lindquist

Funded by: AFK, FPK, BNG, Cultuurfonds, Dioraphte

Find us on instagram.com/resonate.productions | facebook.com/musicaljournalism | resonate-productions.com

Mail us at info@resonate-productions.com

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