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Real Pet Industry News
Clayton Payne and Sam Muelas
14 episodes
3 days ago
Real Pet Industry News brings you raw, unfiltered commentary on the latest trends, controversies, and innovations shaping the pet industry. Hosted by Clayton Payne (Pet Business Disruptors) and Sam Muelas (Dog and Cat Nutrition on YouTube), this podcast cuts through the noise to deliver real talk on everything from pet food scandals to game-changing business moves. Whether you're a pet industry pro, entrepreneur, or just a passionate pet owner, Clayton and Sam break it all down with expert insight, sharp opinions, and no-nonsense discussions.
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Real Pet Industry News brings you raw, unfiltered commentary on the latest trends, controversies, and innovations shaping the pet industry. Hosted by Clayton Payne (Pet Business Disruptors) and Sam Muelas (Dog and Cat Nutrition on YouTube), this podcast cuts through the noise to deliver real talk on everything from pet food scandals to game-changing business moves. Whether you're a pet industry pro, entrepreneur, or just a passionate pet owner, Clayton and Sam break it all down with expert insight, sharp opinions, and no-nonsense discussions.
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Episodes (14/14)
Real Pet Industry News
Guerilla Marketing vs Online marketing, The future of DTC
In this conversation, Clayton and Sam discuss innovative strategies for selling pet products, contrasting scrappy, direct customer engagement with digital marketing approaches. They explore the challenges of direct-to-consumer (DTC) business models, particularly in the pet industry, and emphasize the importance of adapting to changing consumer preferences and market dynamics. The discussion highlights the need for retailers to innovate and compete effectively against larger DTC brands, while also addressing the evolving landscape of pet retail.
takeaways
  • Poured Drinks' success highlights the value of direct customer engagement.
  • Marley Bones focuses on digital marketing but may lack personal connection.
  • Face-to-face interactions remain crucial in sales.
  • DTC models can be capital intensive and risky.
  • Retailers need to adapt to changing consumer preferences.
  • Independent pet stores must stock competitive products.
  • The pet industry is evolving, and retailers must keep pace.
  • Customer acquisition costs can vary significantly in DTC.
  • Building relationships with customers is essential for long-term success.
  • Market dynamics can shift quickly, requiring agility from businesses.

titles
  • Innovative Strategies for Selling Pet Products
  • The DTC Business Model Dilemma

Sound Bites
  • "Go to where the people are."
  • "People buy from people."
  • "Sell them a better product."
  • "The consumer has moved on."
  • "This is how it is today."
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3 days ago
25 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Understanding the UK Pet industry
summaryIn this episode, Clayton and Sam discuss the intricacies of importing pet products into the UK, highlighting the unique landscape of the pet industry, the role of wholesalers, the impact of Brexit, and effective marketing strategies. They emphasize the importance of understanding the market and building relationships through trade shows and targeted communication.
takeaways
  • The UK is a highly developed market for pet products.
  • There is a growing demand for pet products in the UK.
  • Private equity is increasingly influencing the pet industry.
  • Wholesalers play a crucial role in distribution.
  • Navigating the import process can be complex and costly.
  • Brexit has introduced new challenges for importing pet products.
  • Effective marketing requires understanding the target audience.
  • Trade shows provide valuable networking opportunities.
  • Transparency in communication can set businesses apart.
  • Understanding the market is key to successful entry.

titles
  • Navigating the UK Pet Industry
  • Importing Pet Products: A Guide
  • Understanding Wholesalers in the Pet Market

Sound Bites
  • "The UK is a great place to do business."
  • "People love their dogs in this country."
  • "The landscape shifted to private equity."
  • "Trade shows are always a great idea."
  • "Come with a strategy to trade shows."
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1 week ago
28 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Jolleys charity work and Zoomark
keywords
charity campaigns, corporate responsibility, brand distribution, pet industry, marketing strategies, consumer loyalty, pet food, market trends, Zoomark, pet retailers
summary
In this episode, Clayton and Sam discuss the corporate cynicism behind charity campaigns in the pet industry, particularly focusing on Jollies' recent initiative. They explore the implications of brands relying on large retailers for distribution, the challenges faced by smaller companies, and insights from the recent Zoomark event. The conversation highlights the need for genuine corporate responsibility and effective marketing strategies in a competitive market.
takeaways
Jollies' charity campaign is seen as self-promotional rather than altruistic.
Corporate responsibility should not come at the expense of genuine charity.
Brands need to build their presence through independent retailers before approaching larger chains.
The cost of acquiring customers in the pet industry is rising significantly.
Smaller brands often struggle to compete with larger companies in retail spaces.
The importance of having a solid sales team for brand success is emphasized.
Distribution strategies can make or break a brand's success in the market.
The impact of Brexit on distribution and market access is significant.
Brands should focus on long-term growth rather than quick exits.
Innovative products from international brands could succeed in the UK market.
Sound Bites
"It's a little bit cynical, isn't it?"
"This is just self-promotion."
"They don't want 100 suppliers."
"It's a distribution tax."
"You need veterinary certificates now."
"I think they could definitely push that out."
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2 weeks ago
29 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Legacy Brands and Bad B2B marketing
Summary
In this episode, Clayton and Sam discuss the evolving landscape of the pet food industry, focusing on the rise of Scrumbles as a new player challenging legacy brands. They explore the importance of effective marketing strategies, the need for customer-centric approaches, and the potential for acquisitions by larger companies. The conversation emphasizes the significance of building relationships and goodwill in the pet industry, as well as the changing consumer attitudes towards pet food products.
Takeaways
Scrumbles has successfully launched new products and expanded into major retailers.
Effective marketing is crucial for new brands to compete with legacy brands.
Legacy brands are struggling to connect with modern consumers.
The grocery consumer is now more discerning about pet food quality.
Acquisitions by larger companies are a common trend in the pet food industry.
Customer-centric marketing is essential for success in the pet industry.
Brands should focus on building relationships with retailers and customers.
Humility and clear messaging are important in business communications.
Understanding customer acquisition costs can inform marketing strategies.
Building goodwill with customers can lead to long-term success.


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3 weeks ago
34 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Vets and Subscriptions foods
Summary
In this episode, Clayton and Sam discuss the latest trends in the pet food industry, particularly focusing on innovative products like gourmet meals for dogs. They explore the marketing strategies behind these products, the challenges of subscription services, and the implications of consumer behavior in the pet market. The conversation then shifts to the veterinary sector, addressing issues such as pricing, transparency, and the influence of corporate ownership on veterinary practices. The hosts emphasize the need for better consumer information and the potential conflicts of interest within the veterinary industry.
Takeaways
Years.com offers gourmet meals for dogs, like paella and lasagna.
The marketing strategy of years.com is seen as innovative but potentially unsustainable.
The premiumization trend in pet ownership is growing, especially among affluent demographics.
Subscription models in pet food may struggle with customer churn.
The veterinary sector faces scrutiny over pricing and transparency.
Corporate ownership in veterinary practices can lead to conflicts of interest.
Consumers often lack access to affordable medication options for pets.
The importance of multi-channel distribution for pet food brands is highlighted.
Veterinarians may be limited in their ability to recommend cost-effective treatments.
The conversation underscores the need for reform in the veterinary industry.


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1 month ago
30 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Global Pet Expo review, Chinese products and Sales reps
In this episode, Clayton Payne and Sam discuss the recent acquisition spree by Nutriment, analyzing its implications for the raw pet food market and the competitive landscape. They delve into the legacy of Nature's Menu, the challenges of market segmentation in raw pet food, and the profitability of direct-to-consumer cat food models. The conversation also touches on the recent Global Pet Expo, highlighting the lack of innovation and the overall experience of the event. In this conversation, Clayton Payne discusses the challenges and perceptions surrounding Chinese products in the pet industry, the potential of emerging markets like India and Turkey, and the complexities of supply chains. He also delves into the role of sales reps, their value, and the importance of education and merchandising in retail success.
takeaways
  • Nutriment's acquisition strategy is aggressive and aimed at market control.
  • Nature's Menu has lost its innovative edge in the raw food sector.
  • Market segmentation is crucial for targeting specific pet owner demographics.
  • D2C cat food models face profitability challenges due to lower transaction values.
  • Kibble remains a profitable segment with room for innovation.
  • Raw food stores are becoming key players in the pet food market.
  • The pet food industry is seeing a shift towards niche products.
  • Investor-led companies often set unrealistic profit expectations.
  • The Global Pet Expo lacked innovation and strong themes this year.
  • Consumer preferences are shifting towards more specialized pet food options. The pet industry is becoming disillusioned with Chinese products.
  • Emerging markets like India and Turkey are gaining traction.
  • Sales reps can be valuable but often lack proper training.
  • Merchandising plays a crucial role in retail success.
  • Intellectual property concerns are significant when dealing with China.
  • Good sales reps should educate retailers about their products.
  • The appearance of products on shelves affects consumer perception.
  • Companies need to focus on creating coherent product ranges.
  • Sales reps should provide insights beyond just selling products.
  • Retailers benefit from understanding customer retention strategies.

titles
  • Nutriment's Bold Moves in Pet Food
  • The Decline of Nature's Menu
  • Understanding Raw Pet Food Market Dynamics
  • Profitability Challenges in D2C Cat Food
  • Insights from the Global Pet Expo

Sound Bites
  • "I think it's a smart move"
  • "I think kibble is where it is"
  • "The D2C business model profitable?"
  • "I think any company can be profitable"
  • "There's no strong theme this year either"
  • "This could actually be mass scale."
  • "A lot of people are done with China."
  • "Good sales reps are still worth having."
  • "A good sales rep will educate you."
  • "It just looks like shit."
  • "You can't have a shop full of it."
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1 month ago
49 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Pet Food Subscription models.... Genius or Garbage?
This conversation delves into the evolving landscape of direct-to-consumer (D2C) fresh food subscriptions in the pet industry, particularly focusing on dog and cat food. The hosts discuss the challenges faced by these subscription models, including market saturation, consumer behavior, and the impact of heavy marketing on traditional pet food businesses. They also explore the unique challenges in the cat food market and the controversies surrounding pet nutrition, particularly the role of veterinarians in recommending pet food products.
takeaways
  • D2C fresh food subscriptions are gaining traction in the pet industry.
  • Investment in pet food subscriptions is often driven by unprofitable marketing strategies.
  • The pet food market is becoming saturated, making survival difficult for many brands.
  • Consumer behavior in pet food is fickle, leading to high churn rates.
  • Cats are generally more discerning eaters than dogs, complicating the cat food market.
  • Veterinarians often lack the nutritional expertise to recommend pet food effectively.
  • The reliance on marketing in grocery products can overshadow ingredient quality.
  • The pet food industry is facing significant challenges due to heavy competition and investment.
  • Sustainable business models are crucial for long-term success in the pet food market.
  • Controversies exist around the quality of ingredients in pet food, especially those endorsed by vets.

titles
  • Navigating the D2C Pet Food Revolution
  • The Future of Fresh Food Subscriptions
  • Understanding the Cat Food Market

Sound Bites
  • "The online food sector remains a desert of profit."
  • "It's all about get the revenue to a certain point."
  • "I think the cat market is lacking more."
  • "Cats are a lot more fussy when the food comes."
  • "Vets are not nutritionists."
  • "If you sell sugar to pets, that's commendable."
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1 month ago
26 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Raw feeding and Online retailing
Summary
In this conversation, Clayton and Sam discuss the evolution of Mersey Raw, a pet food company, and the challenges it faces in scaling its operations. They explore marketing strategies for raw feeding, the potential of innovative pet supplements, and the future of online pet retailing. The discussion highlights the importance of customer engagement, product quality, and the competitive landscape of the pet industry.

Takeaways
Mersey Raw has faced significant challenges but remains committed to its mission.
Scaling in the pet food industry requires diversification of products.
Marketing strategies should focus on educating consumers rather than bashing competitors.
Innovative formats in pet supplements can attract new customers.
The online pet retail market is highly competitive and challenging.
Customer engagement is crucial for building brand loyalty.
Acquisition strategies can complicate business operations.
The raw feeding market has untapped potential among new pet owners.
Pricing strategies need to be aligned with consumer expectations.
Sustainable packaging and product delivery methods are important for brand reputation.



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1 month ago
34 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Forthglade is it losing its way????
Summary
In this conversation, Clayton Payne and Sam discuss the challenges faced by the pet food brand ForthGlade, including its decline in brand identity and market presence due to its shift towards grocery distribution. They explore the implications of this shift for independent retailers and the overall pet food market. The discussion also delves into the evolving treats market, highlighting trends, investment opportunities, and the importance of innovation in pet food products.

Takeaways
ForthGlade's decline is attributed to its grocery distribution strategy.
Independent retailers are losing customers to grocery chains.
Brand identity is crucial for maintaining market presence.
The treats market is diverse and fragmented.
Investors seek high returns, complicating funding for new brands.
High-value treats are essential for dog training.
The pet food market is evolving with new trends and products.
Innovation is key to staying competitive in the pet industry.
Grocery consumers are less brand loyal than independent store shoppers.
The future of pet food includes more raw and gently cooked options.


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1 month ago
22 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Pets at Home and Private Equity
In this episode, Clayton Payne and Sam discuss the current struggles of Pets at Home, focusing on their declining retail performance and the impact of competition from other pet supply stores. They explore the changing landscape of the pet retail industry, the importance of veterinary services, and the potential for Pets at Home to go private. The conversation also delves into branding strategies and growth opportunities for the company, emphasizing the need for innovation and adaptation in a saturated market.
takeaways
  • Pets at Home is facing significant challenges in the retail market.
  • The veterinary segment is a strong performer for Pets at Home.
  • Competition from stores like Jolly's is increasing.
  • The retail environment for pet supplies is changing rapidly.
  • Pets at Home's business model may need to adapt to survive.
  • Private equity could play a role in Pets at Home's future.
  • Branding and product quality are crucial for growth.
  • Investing in innovative pet brands could be beneficial.
  • The market is moving towards niche pet stores rather than generalists.
  • Consumer preferences are shifting towards specialized pet products.

titles
  • The Struggles of Pets at Home
  • The Changing Retail Landscape
  • Competition and Market Saturation

Sound Bites
  • "Pets at Home is really struggling."
  • "Their veterinary segment saw sales soar by 21.3%."
  • "The retail environment is going to be challenging."
  • "I think their heyday was 15, 20 years ago."
  • "No retailer should be selling live animals."
  • "Jolly's do the actual pet store better."
  • "They need to revamp their branding."
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2 months ago
33 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Corporate Vets and Halal pet food
In this episode of Real Pet Industry News, Clayton and Sam discuss the rapid corporatization of veterinary practices, the challenges faced by independent vets, and the implications for pet care and nutrition. They explore the viability of ancillary pet services like grooming and hydrotherapy, and delve into the emerging niche market of halal cat food, evaluating its potential and challenges in the pet food industry.
takeaways
  • The rapid expansion of corporate veterinary practices is concerning for independent vets.
  • Corporate ownership may lead to standardized care and product recommendations.
  • Vets may face pressure to sell specific products due to corporate ownership.
  • The rise of ancillary pet services presents both opportunities and challenges.
  • Grooming and hydrotherapy are labor-intensive and may struggle to scale.
  • Niche markets like halal cat food can be challenging but may offer unique opportunities.
  • Consumer trust in vets is crucial for the pet food market.
  • The quality of pet food is often compromised for palatability.
  • Marketing strategies should focus on product quality rather than just niche labeling.
  • The pet industry is evolving, and businesses must adapt to survive.

Sound Bites
  • "It's going to be like walking into a subway."
  • "The decline of independent vets has been ongoing."
  • "The corporatization of industries can be ridiculous."
  • "It's going to be very hard for vets to stand out."
  • "The world's first halal cat food is here."
  • "Niche down to make a stride into a mature industry."
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2 months ago
27 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
B Corps, Napo pet insurance and Bella and Duke
Summary
In this episode, Clayton and Sam discuss the recent decision by Scrambles to not renew their B Corp certification, citing concerns over the certification's integrity and its shift towards marketing rather than genuine ethical business practices. They delve into the broader implications of sustainability in the pet food industry, questioning whether consumers truly care about certifications like B Corp. The conversation shifts to Scrambles' strategy of entering supermarkets, the challenges faced by the pet insurance industry, and the recent move by Bella and Duke to expand beyond direct-to-consumer sales. Throughout, they emphasize the importance of genuine commitment to sustainability and the complexities of navigating the pet food market.
Takeaways
B Corp certification has lost its credibility and is seen as greenwashing.
Companies should focus on genuine ethical practices rather than marketing badges.
Sustainability in business is often more about perception than reality.
Consumers may not understand or care about certifications like B Corp.
Pet insurance is a challenging business model due to frequent claims.
Bella and Duke's shift to retail may alienate independent pet stores.
The pet food market is becoming increasingly competitive with many brands.
Brands need to build strong relationships with independent retailers.
Education is crucial for consumers when it comes to raw feeding.
The pet industry is evolving, with more focus on independent retailers.


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2 months ago
27 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Nutriment, Biome9 and Wilsons cold pressed
Summary
In this episode, Clayton and Sam discuss the implications of NutriMint's rapid acquisitions in the pet food industry, questioning whether it is becoming a monopoly. They explore the distribution strategies of NutriMint and the potential impact on competition and consumer choice. The conversation then shifts to Pooch and Mutt's acquisition of Biome 9, analyzing the complexities of the subscription model in pet health. Finally, they evaluate Wilson's Pet Food's diverse product range and the challenges of maintaining a strong market position amidst competition.

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2 months ago
33 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Omni pet food, Vets vs CMA and Jolleye's price 'drops'
Summary
In this episode, Clayton and Sam delve into the current trends and challenges in the pet industry, focusing on the controversial vegan dog food brand Omni, the competitive landscape of pet retailers like Jolly's, and the complexities of the veterinary market. They discuss the implications of marketing strategies, consumer preferences, and the need for regulatory oversight in pet food and veterinary practices.
Takeaways
Omni's reliance on questionable research raises concerns about their product's efficacy.
The vegan dog food market is not appealing to the average pet owner.
Jolly's price strategy may not be sustainable in the long run.
Pets at Home has a competitive edge with their veterinary services.
The veterinary industry is becoming increasingly corporatized, affecting pricing and transparency.
Regulatory bodies need to enforce stricter guidelines on pet food claims.
Consumer trust in veterinarians is being compromised by corporate interests.
The pet food market is shifting towards higher quality, meat-based products.
Innovative partnerships could enhance the growth of pet retailers.
The veterinary market is unlikely to change without significant structural reforms.


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3 months ago
27 minutes

Real Pet Industry News
Real Pet Industry News brings you raw, unfiltered commentary on the latest trends, controversies, and innovations shaping the pet industry. Hosted by Clayton Payne (Pet Business Disruptors) and Sam Muelas (Dog and Cat Nutrition on YouTube), this podcast cuts through the noise to deliver real talk on everything from pet food scandals to game-changing business moves. Whether you're a pet industry pro, entrepreneur, or just a passionate pet owner, Clayton and Sam break it all down with expert insight, sharp opinions, and no-nonsense discussions.