Summary
In this live in person episode of the Quality Talks podcast, hosts Stu Day and James Milner explore the evolving landscape of leadership in technology. Joined by guests Rachael Morgan and Cleveland Henry, they discuss personal journeys into leadership, the importance of mentorship, and the critical role of respect and authenticity in effective leadership.
The conversation delves into creating a culture of safety and innovation, learning from failure, and the inspirational moments that shape leaders. Through personal anecdotes and insights, the episode highlights the multifaceted nature of leadership and the continuous growth required to navigate the challenges of the tech industry.
In this engaging conversation, the speakers delve into the complexities of leadership, emphasising the importance of resilience, confidence, and adaptability in navigating challenges. They discuss the evolving landscape of leadership in a tech-driven world, particularly with the rise of AI, and the critical role of mentorship and community in personal and professional growth.
The dialogue highlights the significance of learning from experiences and the necessity of addressing societal challenges as leaders.
Chapters
00:00 Personal Journeys into Leadership
10:15 Defining Leadership Traits and Skills
14:05 The Importance of Respect in Leadership
18:10 Management vs. Leadership: Key Differences
25:16 Creating a Culture of Innovation and Mistakes
28:59 The Privilege of Leadership
29:58 Coaching and Problem Solving
30:57 Practicing Failure in Technology
31:54 Creating a Safe Environment for Failure
32:52 The Role of Leadership in Failure
33:23 Learning from Failures
36:18 Moments of Inspiration in Leadership
40:52 The Power of Simple Beliefs
43:55 Finding Confidence in Leadership
49:08 The Nature of Confidence
52:59 Taking Action and Moving Forward
53:13 The Future of Leadership in a Changing World
56:05 The Importance of Adaptability in Leadership
59:25 Navigating the Digital Leadership Landscape
01:01:48 The Role of Mentorship and Community in Growth
01:04:51 Defining Success Beyond Titles and Wealth
01:08:39 Addressing Current Challenges in Leadership
01:12:08 The Impact of Technology on Society and Leadership
01:19:09 The Human Element in Leadership Challenges
01:22:09 End
Takeaways
Summary
In this episode of the Quality Talks podcast, host Stu Day engages with Dora Chatzinaki, a seasoned tech professional, host of the Verified Geek podcast and advocate for women in tech.
They discuss Dora's journey in the tech industry, her experiences in leadership roles, and the challenges of influencing change within organisations.
The conversation emphasises the importance of confidence, patience, and understanding organisational dynamics while advocating for diversity and learning from failure.
Dora shares her insights on building trust as a leader and the significance of collaboration in driving meaningful change.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Quality Talks Podcast
01:15 Dora's Journey in Tech
02:37 Influencing Change in Organisations
05:05 Challenges of Being a Woman in Tech
08:13 Driving Diversity and Inclusion
10:47 Building Confidence in the Workplace
14:17 Navigating Influence Without Authority
16:58 Learning from Failure
19:55 The Importance of Empathy in Leadership
21:50 Perseverance and Patience in Change
24:57 Adapting to Change in Tech
28:39 Consulting and Learning from Others
31:12 Building Support Networks for Change
36:14 The Power of Diverse Perspectives
41:43 Challenges of Influencing Change in Organisations
48:00 Understanding Organisational Dynamics
54:09 Earning Trust as a Leader
01:00:35 Closing Things Out
Summary
In this episode of the Quality Talks podcast, host Stu Day engages with special guest Mohammad Arif, the head of QA at FX Digital, to explore the unique challenges and innovations in the realm of connected TV testing.
They discuss the evolution of FX Digital, the importance of client feedback, and the structure of QA and QE teams. Delving into the complexities of device fragmentation, the integration of AI in testing processes, and the growing emphasis on sustainability in technology.
Arif shares insights into the device lab at FX Digital and the innovative solutions developed to address testing challenges, highlighting the future of connected TV and the exciting possibilities that lie ahead.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Guest Introduction
02:48 Exploring Connected TV and Its Challenges
06:03 The Evolution of FX Digital
08:58 Quality Assurance in Connected TV
12:06 Client Feedback and Continuous Improvement
15:02 Team Structure and Collaboration
18:02 Device Fragmentation and Testing Strategies
20:26 The Role of Quality Engineering
23:35 Navigating Client Needs and Device Support
34:17 The Evolution of TV Technology
36:48 Innovations in Automation for TV Apps
40:42 Visual-Based Automation and Accessibility
46:10 The Device Lab: Challenges and Innovations
49:16 Sustainability in Testing Practices
54:28 The Future of Automation and AI in TV Testing
01:01:02 Exploring Streaming Devices and Their Challenges
01:06:18 End
Summary
In this episode of the Quality Talks podcast, hosts Stu and Chris discuss the concept of superpowers in the context of their professional lives.
They explore various superpowers suggested by their community, including vulnerability, empathy, and the ability to communicate clearly.
The conversation delves into how these superpowers can enhance leadership, teamwork, and personal growth. They also touch on the importance of community engagement and the value of difficult conversations in fostering understanding and connection.
The episode concludes with reflections on the unique superpowers each individual possesses and how they can leverage them for personal and professional development.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Welcome Back and Introduction to Superpowers
03:01 The Impact of Vulnerability in Public Speaking
06:31 Exploring Community Superpowers
08:19 Personal Superpowers: Listening and Happiness
11:09 The Power of Perspective and Leadership
14:41 Community Insights: Future Vision and Feedback
17:47 Time Travel: The Ultimate Undo Button
20:48 Juggling Tasks and Leadership Challenges
24:59 The Weather of Leadership: Energy and Communication
28:39 Superpowers in Tech and Leadership
30:58 The Importance of Empathy
32:39 Navigating Communication Challenges
35:58 The Value of Difficult Conversations
38:40 Understanding Cybersecurity Mindsets
41:50 Community Building and Connections
46:55 The Dangers of Instant Solutions
50:44 Knowledge Transfer and Learning
55:07 Leveraging Community Superpowers
58:10 End
Summary
In this episode of Quality Talks, Stu Day discusses the art of storytelling and its significance in conveying quality within teams and leadership.
He emphasises the need for relatable communication and shares various techniques, including analogies, visuals, and interactive storytelling methods like using Lego.
The conversation highlights the importance of empathy and creativity in making quality concepts accessible and engaging for diverse audiences.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 The Importance of Storytelling in Quality
02:59 Making Quality Relatable Through Empathy
05:49 Using Analogies and Visuals to Explain Quality
09:10 Interactive Storytelling with Lego
11:59 Creative Approaches to Quality Education
14:48 The Role of Games in Team Collaboration
17:45 Balancing Speed and Quality in Software Development
21:08 The Need for Context in Communication
23:54 Practicing Storytelling for Better Engagement
30:01 End
Summary
In this episode, Stu Day discusses the challenges of performance management within organisations, particularly focusing on the concept of Bonus Driven Development (BDD), and the negative impact of individual performance metrics on team collaboration and quality culture.
Stu advocates for aligning performance goals with a quality vision and fostering a collaborative environment where everyone is responsible for quality outcomes.
The conversation explores the importance of shifting from individual accountability to team accountability, using analogies from the NFL to illustrate the necessity of every team member contributing to collective success.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Performance Management Challenges
03:06 Understanding Bonus Driven Development
06:27 The Impact of Individual Performance Metrics
09:23 Shifting Focus to Team Accountability
12:17 Aligning Goals for Quality
15:14 Creating a Collaborative Culture
18:13 The Role of Community in Quality
21:06 Ensuring Consistency Across Teams
24:29 Conclusion and Call to Action
31:43 Close
Summary
In this keynote talk from the National Software Testing Conference 2025, Stu Day explores the critical theme of self-care in leadership, emphasising the importance of emotional awareness, the distinction between self-care and self-indulgence, and the need for leaders to model healthy behaviours.
It discusses creating supportive environments, implementing micro-self-care behaviours, and the significance of vulnerability in leadership. The dialogue encourages leaders to prioritise their well-being and foster a culture of support within their teams.
Takeaways
1. Self-care is essential for effective leadership.
2. Emotional awareness helps in managing triggers and responses.
3. Leaders must model self-care behaviours for their teams.
4. Self-care should be a daily practice, not a one-time event.
5. Vulnerability can enhance communication and trust in teams.
6. Creating supportive environments is crucial for mental health.
7. behaviours can lead to significant improvements in well-being.
8. Regular check-ins among peers can foster a supportive culture.
9. Self-care is about long-term health, not just immediate gratification.
10. Time management and boundaries are key to maintaining self-care.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Self-Care in Leadership
03:54 The Cost of Neglecting Self-Care
09:53 Self-Indulgence vs. Self-Care
13:59 Modelling Self-Care as Leaders
17:57 Building a Supportive Culture
19:48 Micro-Self-Care Behaviours
27:10 Conclusion and Key Takeaways
29:56 Q&A - Emotional Awareness and Self-Care Challenges
32:53 Q&A - Leadership and Culture in Mental Health
35:57 Q&A - Key Takeaways from Mental Health Training
38:58 Q&A - The Importance of Self-Care Days
39:57 Breath & Thank you
Summary
In this episode of the Quality Talks podcast, hosts Stu Day and Eamon Droko reflect on their experiences at the National Software Testing Conference.
They discuss various talks and workshops, highlighting key insights on software testing, diversity in the industry, and the evolving role of testers in the face of new technologies like AI.
The conversation emphasizes the importance of adaptability, communication, and the need for a diverse workforce to drive innovation in software development.
Links
Simon Prior Website: https://leadtestinclude.com/
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Conference Overview
07:43 Reflections on Keynote Speakers
14:51 Workshops and Their Impact
21:38 The Importance of Language in Quality Assurance
28:45 The Role of Storytelling in Quality Assurance
33:03 Diversity in Software Development
35:58 Final Thoughts and Future Directions
38:19 Leadership and Vulnerability
44:02 Innovative Approaches to Mobile Advertising
48:48 The Modern Tester: Evolving Roles and Skills
54:38 From Performance Metrics to Purposeful Testing
59:52 Adapting to AI: The Future of Testing
01:01:49 Testing Beyond the Browser: Unique Challenges
01:07:33 Reflections on the Conference and Closing Thoughts
01:09:58 Close
Summary
In this episode, Quality Talks & The QA Hype Show come together for a special collaboration. Host Stu Day & Gary Shannon, welcome Rosie Sherry, CEO and Founder of Ministry of Testing to talk about all things TestBash.
Together they discuss the upcoming TestBash conference in October sharing personal stories about how Test Bash has impacted their careers and lives in different ways.
The conversations touches on the continued evolution of TestBash over more than 10 years emphasising the importance of community, learning, and engagement whilst introducing new initiatives, and the fun, gamified elements that make the event one of a kind.
The hosts end by sharing their reasons to encourage listeners to attend and experience the vibrant atmosphere and valuable connections that Test Bash provides.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to TestBash and Community Engagement
02:35 - The Evolution of TestBash: From Concept to Community
05:26 - The Unique Atmosphere of TestBash
08:22 - Building a Year-Round Community
11:12 - Leadership Initiatives and Future Directions
27:57 - Quality Mindset in Product and Engineering
29:31 - Excitement for TestBash
31:29 - Engaging with the Community
33:08 - The Role of Sponsors
35:16 - Innovative Swag and Gamification
37:59 - Creating Lasting Memories
40:08 - Why Attend Test Bash?
44:01 - Closing Statements from Gary, Stu and Rosie
52:00 - We Out!!
Summary
In this episode of Quality Talks, Stu Day discusses the essential tips for new leaders, particularly in the quality space.
He emphasizes the importance of shifting one's mindset when transitioning into leadership, building strong relationships based on trust, collaborating on strategy development, investing in people, and prioritising self-care.
These insights are drawn from his extensive experience in leadership roles and aim to provide guidance for both new and seasoned leaders.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction and Context
03:47 - Shifting the Mindset
08:05 - Building Relationships as a Leader
12:23 - Co-create the vision and strategy
18:17 - Investing in People
25:25 - Self-Care for Leaders
32:19 - End
In this episode of Quality Talks, host Stu Day engages with Ayesha Saeed, a senior accessibility specialist and test lead, to discuss the importance of accessibility in software development.
They explore Ayesha's journey into accessibility, the challenges of promoting it within teams, and the significance of empathy in understanding user experiences.
The conversation also covers practical strategies for integrating accessibility into development processes, training teams, and measuring the impact of accessibility initiatives.
Ayesha emphasises the need for incremental changes and community engagement, encouraging listeners to start small and build their knowledge over time.
Links and Learning Resources:
Connect with Ayesha - https://www.linkedin.com/in/ayesha-saeed-946821155
Get to know Ayesha - https://www.solirius.com/post/meet-the-team-ayesha-saeed
Article: https://www.solirius.com/post/unlocking-the-web-start-your-journey-into-digital-accessibilityChampions of
Accessibility Network: https://www.linkedin.com/groups/12499821
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Accessibility in Tech
01:48 Ayesha Saeed's Journey in Accessibility
13:01 Understanding Accessibility Beyond Tech
16:25 The Importance of Empathy in Accessibility
18:54 Engaging Teams Early in Accessibility
29:51 Diverse Testing Approaches for Accessibility
32:32 Understanding User Testing and Accessibility
35:18 Common Accessibility Issues in Web Design
40:06 Prioritising Accessibility Issues
44:50 Educating Teams on Accessibility
50:53 Measuring the Impact of Accessibility Training
55:49 Future Trends in Accessibility Testing
Summary
In this episode of Quality Talks, host Stu Day interviews Nesha Mistry, a senior recruiter with over six years of experience.
They discuss the challenges recruiters face, including managing high volumes of applications and delivering feedback to candidates.
Nesha shares insights on how candidates can stand out in their applications, the importance of personality in interviews, and the need for empathy in the recruitment process.
The conversation emphasises the human side of recruitment and the importance of networking and authenticity.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Recruitment Insights
02:34 The Recruiter's Perspective
06:57 Navigating Candidate Emotions
10:34 Providing Constructive Feedback
13:59 Standing Out in Applications
18:19 The Screening Process
23:45 Creating a Positive Interview Experience
27:07 Final Thoughts on Recruitment
30:15 Connecting with Nesha
30:44 Close
Connect with Nesha:
LinkedIn - linkedin.com/in/nesha-mistry-95889a125
Instagram - nesha_canvascreations
Takeaways
Summary
In this live episode celebrating the first anniversary of the Quality Talks podcast, hosts Stu and Chris reflect on their journey over the past year, share memorable moments, and engage with their live audience.
They welcome special guest Vernon Richards, discuss future plans for live events, and highlight favourite episodes and guests, further reflections on their journey of building a podcast and community around quality discussions.
They explore the challenges of engaging with their audience, the importance of creating a platform for sharing experiences, and the evolving expectations in quality roles.
The conversation also touches on the significance of allyship and support within the industry, as well as celebrating their one-year anniversary of podcasting.
Throughout this episode the conversation is filled with humour, insights, and a sense of community as they celebrate their achievements and look forward to what’s next
Chapters
00:00 Celebrating One Year of Quality Talks
04:42 Special Guest Introduction: Vernon
10:15 Reflections on the Podcast Journey
15:52 Memorable Moments and Audience Engagement
24:43 Engaging with YouTube Shorts
26:46 This or That: Fun Debates
35:43 Building a Community Around the Podcast
49:54 The Grief of Change
53:01 Navigating Change in the Industry
54:44 The Lone Tester Experience
58:59 Building Allyship in Quality
01:02:56 Evolving Expectations in Quality Roles
01:06:32 Finding Community and Support
01:11:51 Celebrating Milestones and Looking Ahead
01:34:47 WE OUT!!
Summary
In this episode of Quality Talks Bitesize, host Stu Day welcomes Dalbir Sehmbi, a seasoned professional in software testing, who shares his journey through job hunting and the strategies he employed to secure a new role.
Dalbir discusses the importance of tracking job applications, building relationships with recruiters, and the lessons learned from various interview experiences.
He emphasises the significance of networking and community engagement, offering valuable tips for job seekers navigating the challenging job market.
Useful Links:
Chapters
00:00 Introductions
04:26 Dalbir's Job Hunt Experience
09:59 Data-Driven Job Applications
15:58 Building Relationships with Recruiters
21:57 Interview Preparation and Lessons Learned
27:57 Final Tips for Job Seekers
33:12 End
Takeaways
Summary
In this episode of Quality Talks Bitesize, hosts Stu and Chris share their top tips for interviewers, focusing on enhancing the candidate experience.
They discuss the importance of preparation, humanising the interview process, ensuring diversity in interview panels, effective time management, and being present in both body and mind.
Their conversation emphasises creating a welcoming atmosphere for candidates and the significance of providing constructive feedback.
To conclude the episode they even share a bonus tip that may be a surprise.......but would could it be?
Chapters
00:00 - Introduction to Interview Tips
01:46 - Tip 5: Do Your Prep Work
04:37 - Tip 4: Humanise the Process
07:51 - Tip 3: Diversity in Interview Panels
13:00 - Tip 2: Time Management in Interviews
21:23 - Tip 1: Be Present in the Moment
26:10 - Bonus Tip: Make It Fun
30:27 End
Takeaways
Summary
In this inaugural Bite Size episode of the Quality Talks podcast, host Stu Day and guest Eamon Droko discuss the nuances of job interviews, focusing on what constitutes good and bad experiences, from a candidates perspective
Eamon shares his insights from his journey in quality assurance, emphasising the importance of job fit, the challenges of poorly placed technical tasks in interviews, and the value of openness and honesty during the interview process.
They also explore effective preparation strategies and the need for interviewers to respect candidates' time and experiences. Giving them the time and space to showcase their true selves.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to BiteSize Series
01:21 Eamon's Background and Experience
02:26 Good vs. Bad Interviews
05:12 The Role of Automation in Interviews
07:12 The Importance of Job Fit
10:08 Technical Tasks and Candidate Time
12:10 Explaining Your Thought Process
14:41 What Good Interviews Look Like
18:49 The Value of Openness in Interviews
19:33 Challenges with Interviewers' Understanding of QA
22:39 Preparing for Interviews
29:52 Final Tips for Interview Success
31:35 End
In this episode of the Quality Talks podcast, hosts Chris Henderson and Stu Day explore the dynamics of interviews, emphasising the importance of a two-way relationship between candidates and employers.
They discuss community engagement, share personal experiences, and highlight the significance of creating a positive interview environment.
Listeners are encouraged to reflect on their own experiences and the importance of communication throughout the interview process.
The conversation also touches on technical interviews, handling anxiety, and the need for honesty in the hiring process.
Show Links:
1. Instagram page: quality_talks_podcast
2. Culture Corner Podcast with Chris: https://open.spotify.com/episode/3XdYF5Rsyyd6pCSehUXJFJ?si=ghhZHZJDRXWUY7NvREVITg
3. https://nationalsoftwaretestingconference.co.uk/
4. https://www.ministryoftesting.com/events/testbash-brighton-2025
5. Our website: https://qualitytalks.co.uk/
Chapters:
00:00 Introduction to The Perfect Pair
03:36 Community Growth and Engagement
08:03 Upcoming Events and Conferences
10:45 Multi-Generational Teams Discussion
12:51 London Meetup and Community Involvement
16:04 The Perfect Pair: Interview Dynamics
20:22 Understanding the Interview Process
29:01 What Makes a Good Interview?
36:33 Creating a Comfortable Interview Environment
42:38 Exploring Interview Styles and Formats
50:51 What Makes a Bad Interview?
59:49 The Importance of Communication in the Interview Process
01:10:01 Community Insights on Interview Experiences
01:22:45 End
Takeaways:
Summary
In this episode of Quality Talks, hosts Stu Day and Chris Henderson welcome Christine Pinto, co-founder of Epic Test Quest. Christine shares her journey from a tech career to politics and back, emphasising the importance of quality in software testing.
The conversation explores the challenges faced by testers, the role of AI in improving testing processes, and the significance of community engagement. Christine advocates for a quality mindset in tech and the need for fun and gamification in testing.
The episode concludes with a call to action for listeners to join the Epic Test Quest community and contribute to the development of a tool that aims to enhance the testing experience.
Show Links:
1. Epic Test Quest Website: https://www.epictestquest.com/
2. Epic Test Quest Slack Community: https://join.slack.com/t/etqcommunity/shared_invite/zt-31z6yv89i-62eixB9hqdpO0tXBhyQvxQ
3. Epic Test Quest LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/company/epictestquest
4. Christine's Motivational Song: https://youtu.be/1SXQfd8f-o0?si=ea41f2gZ1tivMZyF
Chapters
00:00 Introduction and Excitement for the Podcast
02:14 Christine Pinto's Background and Journey
04:51 Transition from Politics to Tech
08:25 Lessons Learned from Politics
14:06 The Birth of Epic Test Quest
22:14 Prototyping and Community Engagement
26:19 Quality Mindset in Entrepreneurship
30:09 Bridging Communication Gaps in Testing
33:01 The Importance of Quality Mindset
35:17 Leveraging Community for Product Development
38:39 Transforming Quality into a Collaborative Mindset
42:12 Gamification and Fun in Quality Assurance
46:18 Visualizing Quality through Engagement
55:45 Emotional Connections in Testing and Development
56:36 Starting the Conversation: Understanding Pain Points
59:54 Creating Accessible Tools for Testers
01:01:40 Leveraging AI for Quality Assurance
01:05:56 The Importance of Quality in Software Development
01:10:39 Emotional Impact of Quality Assurance
01:16:47 Building a Community for Feedback and Growth
01:21:38 End
Takeaways
In this heartfelt episode of Quality Talks, hosts Stu Day and Chris Henderson delve into the critical topics of wellbeing, self-care, and mental health within leadership. They share personal experiences and insights on the importance of leading by example, being vulnerable, and creating supportive environments for open communication. The conversation emphasises the need for self-awareness and practical strategies for managing stress, ultimately encouraging leaders to prioritise their own wellbeing to better support their teams.
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Wellbeing and Leadership
08:12 The Importance of Self-Care in Leadership
19:18 Vulnerability and Open Communication in Leadership
30:22 Building Supportive Leadership Cultures
41:53 Building Leadership Communities for Change
43:21 The Importance of Vulnerability in Leadership
45:49 Creating Safe Spaces for Open Conversations
47:17 The Impact of Mental Health on Leadership
49:12 The Power of Sharing Personal Struggles
50:31 Encouraging Open Dialogue in the Workplace
52:29 Utilizing the Stress Bucket Exercise
55:16 Coping Mechanisms for Stress Relief
58:44 The Role of Self-Reflection in Leadership
01:03:23 Prioritizing Mental Health in Leadership
01:08:34 Embracing Vulnerability as a Strength
01:11:39 Navigating Change and New Beginnings
01:14:01 Creating a Supportive Community
01:18:24 Looking Ahead: Future Conversations on Mental Health
01:19:00 Wrap Up
Takeaways
Summary
In this episode of Quality Talks, hosts Chris Henderson and Stu Day celebrate their 10th episode while diving into the ongoing debate between manual and automation testing.
They explore the psychological aspects of decision-making, the importance of context in labelling roles, and the need for a balanced approach to quality assurance.
The conversation highlights the detrimental effects of rigid titles and encourages a shift towards a more holistic understanding of quality roles in the tech industry.
They also introduce a fun game of 'This or That' to engage listeners and lighten the mood.
Episode Links
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Celebrating Episode 10: A Milestone for Quality Talks
03:08 Exploring Human Psychology: The 'This or That' Concept
06:14 Quality Talks Brand Expansion: New Initiatives and Goals
09:28 The Importance of Community: Meetups and Networking
12:15 Playing 'This or That': A Fun Game to Engage
17:15 Manual vs. Automated Testing: The Ongoing Debate
30:01 Rethinking Titles: The Need for Context in Quality Roles
35:09 The Challenge of Skill Perception
39:02 Rethinking Job Titles and Roles
44:08 Leadership and Skill Development
49:51 The Automation Debate: A Holistic Approach
55:17 AI's Role in Bridging the Gap
59:58 Empowering Change Through Conversation
01:05: Wrapping Things Up
01:08.27 End Credits