Lauren’s back from Italy and just in time — because Travis dropped a 13-photo grid hard launching Taylor that basically broke the internet. Chanler catches her up on every sparkly-filtered slide. The girls question if this could mean wedding bells? And the real reason so many brands chimed in on the comment section. (00:00:00) ✈️ Postcards from Italy — Lauren’s friend-filled vacation and her texting boundaries abroad  (00:06:28) 💑 Taylor & Travis Go Public — 13 photos, soft-launch culture, and the wholesome vibes of each pic  (00:19:07) 📱 The Filter Debate — Sparkly edits, signature cameras, and why Taylor’s aesthetic never changes  (00:20:20) 🏰 Chrishell & G Flip’s Third Wedding — Medieval theme, guest fatigue, and how to lose friends annually  (00:23:48) 😬 Beckham Family Feud — Cursed Notes, Instagram blocks, awkward weddings, and very public shade  (00:36:18) 🚤 Yacht Wars — $16M vs. billionaire-level $400M boats, and Sir Elton’s peacekeeping tour  (00:44:05) 🔭 The Coldplay Kiss-Cam Scandal — Public makeouts, lawsuits, and the downfall of Astronomer  (00:51:00) 🌿 Gwyneth’s Surprise Cameo — Her comedic timing, rumored $2M payout, and the copper-fit hustle  (00:56:20) 🧼 Goop vs. Rhode — Hailey Bieber’s billion-dollar exit vs. Gwyneth’s grind  (00:58:00) 📣 What’s Next — Matty Healy’s mom, Katy Perry, Sydney Sweeney and more coming in Friday’s Global Elite episode BetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS  EarlyBird CBD: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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In this bonus episode, Chanler is joined by her husband Ben and their wedding planner, Laura from Love, Laura. We discuss what it actually takes to plan a wedding that feels intentional, elevated, and true to you. From walking away from their original venue to rethinking the wedding party altogether, this conversation goes deep on the emotional, logistical, and aesthetic realities of modern wedding planning — with expert advice from Laura herself. Check out Love, Laura on Instagram www.instagram.com/lovelauraevents  Check out Love, Laura events www.lovelaura.co  (00:00:00) 💍 Where to Start — the foundation of a great wedding and why your planner actually matters (00:08:32) 🥂 Defining Your Style — avoiding trend traps, trusting your gut, and staying true to your vision (00:16:40) 🎻 Making It Meaningful — how to create a ceremony that feels intimate, not performative (00:22:13) 🪑 The Guest List Equation — setting boundaries, navigating family politics, and curating with intention (00:28:48) 🧠 Avoiding the Spiral — decision fatigue, emotional overload, and how to reset when it gets too much (00:37:05) 👗 Dress Wisdom — why it’s okay to change your mind, and how to find a look you actually feel good in (00:43:41) 📸 Capturing the Moment — trusting your team, letting go of the shot list, and being present (00:52:20) 💒 Final Advice — Laura’s golden rule, Ben’s hot take, and the one thing every bride should prioritize Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Lauren and Chanler sit down with the legendary jewelry designer, Jade Trau, for a glimmering deep dive into the art of jewelry that empowers, carries memories, and actually fits your lifestyle. From self-gifting diamond bracelets to refreshing engagement rings, this episode is a masterclass in fine jewelry. ✨ Check out Jade Trau jadetrau.com  Use code POPAPOLOGISTS at checkout for 10% off your order Cozy Earth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code POP for 40% off best-selling temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more. Hero Bread: Go to hero.co and use code POP at checkout to get 10% off your order. Quince: Go to Quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365 day returns. CashApp Download Today: https://click.cash.app/ui6m/5bx4lt9z #CashAppPod As a Cash App partner, I may earn a commission when you sign up for a Cash App account. Cash App is a financial services platform, not a bank. Banking services provided by Cash App’s bank partner(s). Prepaid debit cards issued by Sutton Bank, Member FDIC. Visit cash.app/legal/podcast for full disclosures. (00:00:00) 💎 The Roman Empire Is Real — Lauren’s obsession with Jade, push presents, and showroom dreams (00:10:05) 🎯 Imposter Syndrome & Value — deciding to do the thing anyway (00:18:34) 💍 Jewelry As Identity — self-purchasing women, wearable power, and middle finger diamonds (00:28:41) 🌎 Jewelry & Sustainability — vintage stones, timelessness, and why it’s not like fast fashion (00:36:12) ✨ Where to Start — fine jewelry 101: ears first, personality always (00:39:48) 🧠 Styling with Intention — when jewelry feels like you, and why that’s everything (00:44:55) 💘 Engagement Ring Refresh — what’s trending (or not), and how to reimagine your forever (00:55:40) 🚩 Red Flags — what to watch for in quality, materials, and brands Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

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From crayon-sketched love letters to a full-blown national manhunt, Lauren and Chanler unravel the sharpest left turn in Pop Apologists history. What starts as a casual Bin Laden doc spiral turns into a CIA-level obsession, a George Bush fangirl confession, and an unhinged (but stunning) PR breakdown of America’s longest-running villain arc. BetterHelp: Our listeners get 10% off their first month at BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS  Wayfair: Shop outdoor furniture, grills, lawn games, and WAY more for WAY less. Head to Wayfair.com right now to explore a HUGE outdoor selection. Progressive: Give it a try at Progressive.com  (00:00:00)💍 Next Week Teasers — Courtney Grow, Sam from Sauce Media, and Chanler’s wedding planner ep reveal (00:05:00) 🎯 Why Bin Laden? — Netflix recs, moral anxiety, and Obama’s situation room doc teaser (00:08:30) 👳‍♂️ Osama Bin Laden Origins — Billionaire roots, Mecca PR flops, and why he ghosted Saudi royalty (00:14:10) 💣 First Attacks + Fatwas — The Kenya and Tanzania embassy bombings and FBI’s first miss (00:22:55) 🕊️ 9/11 Memories — Living in New York post-attack, national grief, and the last time we all agreed on something (00:24:10) 💌 Chanler’s Letter to George Bush — American flags, colored pencils, and “wonderful presidents” (00:36:00) 🕵️‍♀️ The Woman Behind the Win — Torture, aliases, and the analyst who refused to let go (00:43:25) 📊 Obama’s Big Call — Debating the odds, scheduling the raid, and the worst neighbors ever (00:48:05) 🔫 The Kill Shot — 40 minutes, a hallway, and the quietest end to a global obsession See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

It’s a LadyGang x Pop Apologists crossover! No dating dilemma is safe. Lauren and Chanler join forces with Becca, Keltie, and Jac to break down the ultimate red flags in a man. Everything from mattress-on-the-floor energy to exes who still use Snapchat. They swap stories about musicians with “permanent rizz,” weigh in on cat dads, cargo pants, and settle the debate once and for all: Can a man be too outdoorsy?  💌 Check out Lady World Festival: ladyworld.co 🎧 Listen to the LadyGang podcast: LadyGang Earlybird: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off Quince: Go to Quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365 returns Cozy Earth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code POP for 40% off Progressive: Give it a try at Progressive.com (00:00:00) 🎙️ The Girlies Meet — LadyGang joins the Pop Apologists for a red flag reckoning (00:03:00) 🎸 Dating the Same Guy from Panic! at the Disco — Mutual exes, fan blogs, and teen heartbreak origins (00:06:00) 🧠 Does Musician Rizz Expire? — Hot now, not later, and the Mark McGrath paradox (00:09:15) 🧢 Cargo Pants + Brad Falchuk — Gwyneth’s husband, Roman Empires, and unexpected green flags (00:11:50) 📱 Reels, Ring Lights, and the Male Influencer Ick — Social media addiction as a red flag (00:17:00) 🛋️ Furniture Fails + Red Flag Decor — Gaming chairs, mom co-signs, and bean bag nightmares (00:22:00) 📸 Venmos, Vibes, and Financial Reality Checks — Mint accounts, fake entrepreneurs, and how to math the math (00:28:30) 🏕️ Camping Trauma + Capitalism Compatibility — Tarps, canyons, and the war on flip flops (00:35:40) 🧾 Prenups, Debt Reveals, and the $10 Million Lie — Financial transparency vs. love blindness (00:44:55) 💔 Do Men Ever Change? — Ryan Ross, Jax Taylor, and the myth of the reformed cheater (00:47:10) 👻 Snapchat and Other Modern Red Flags — Disappearing messages, ex-girlfriend mysteries, and online horniness (00:48:40) 🔨 Sam Asghari: General Contractor Edition — Why construction jobs might be the new green flag (00:50:10) 💋 Do He Go Down Though? — Oral reciprocity, period squeamishness, and what it says about him See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, the ultimate chaos agent Jessi Ngatikaura joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about fame, friendship feuds, and what really goes down behind the scenes of Secret Lives of Mormon Wives. From business blow-ups to relationship red flags, Jessi doesn’t hold back—and neither do your hosts. 💅 Check out Jessi on Instagram @jessijayngatikaura Check out Jessi’s Hair Salon www.jzstyles.com  (00:00:00) 🎥 Behind the Curtain — What Jessi didn’t expect when the show dropped, and how Utah reacted IRL. (00:04:58) 💇‍♀️ Faith, Hair, and Fallout — Running a business in Utah County, balancing Mormon expectations, and bracing for public backlash. (00:10:58) 📉 Jen & Zac’s Messy Arc — Church drama, text receipts, and one unexpected redemption arc. (00:14:50) 💬 Taylor Frankie Paul: Icon or Chaos? — Jessi’s real-life friendship with Taylor, her thoughts on Dakota, and what we didn’t see on camera. (00:18:30) 💥 Hairgate + Demigeddon — What really went down at Saints & Sinners, and why one healing session couldn’t fix the betrayal. (00:26:00) 🧪 Layla, Miranda, and the Spicy Cast Additions — Who brought it, who played it safe, and what’s coming next. (00:32:10) 🔄 Mormon Marriage + Glow-Ups — Jessi on her thyroid surgery, plastic surgery transparency, and the cultural double standards in Utah. (00:38:40) 🔮 Swinging Culture + Mormon Complications — Upside-down pineapples, spiritual loopholes, and what the church says (or doesn’t) about ketamine. (00:43:15) ⚔️ Mikayla vs. Whitney — Feuds, fractures, and where Jessi sees it all heading next season. (00:46:40) 🧁 MomTok Constitution? — Breadwinners, Botox, and redefining Mormon motherhood on TikTok. (00:50:05) 📣 Viewer DMs Save Lives — How Jessi caught a thyroid issue thanks to vigilant fans, and what her recovery journey looked like. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler spiral through the chaos of quitting corporate life, the psychosis of mushroom pilots, and why Planet Bibi wants you to orgasm for an hour. They unpack Meghan and Harry’s long game (including a 2027 olive branch??), compare two wildly tone-deaf weddings, and read anonymous Hampton confessions that will make you think twice before trusting any Birkin. Plus: what Alex Cooper’s doc revealed, and how a TikTok account inspires Lauren. Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off. Rocket Money: Reach your financial goals faster with Rocket Money. RocketMoney.com/POP Thrive Market: Head over to ThriveMarket.com/POP to get 30% off your first order and a FREE $60 gift. (00:00) 🧠 Chanler’s Meta exit, full-time freedom, and reclaiming her brain (08:05) ✈️ Plane crash psychosis + how to boof your way out of a nosedive (13:02) 🍄 Pilot on mushrooms and Lauren’s derealization trip in Mexico (19:07) 💦 Planet Bibi's 25 orgasms + bedroom ergonomics exposed (23:04) 🎧 Alex Cooper’s doc, her stalker coach, and becoming a one-woman media empire (29:01) 🎙️ Meghan Markle ends her podcast (again) + Emma Grede keeps it real (32:46) 👑 Meghan & Harry’s 2027 olive branch, royal family freeze-out, and Charles shade (36:55) 💒 Blake’s plantation wedding backlash + Bezos & Lauren’s chaotic Venice plans (41:01) 📱 Taylor and Blake’s texts ruled admissible—what are they hiding? (44:46) 🏛️ Daily Dose Donna’s site visit + Blake’s wedding venue in question (51:21) 💼 Hamptons club debt, fake Birkins, and financial denial in zip code 11937 See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This one’s for the girls who grew up on TRL, cried to Fearless, and low-key still know all the words to “He Could Be the One.” Nora Princiotti joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about the evolution of authenticity in pop, Miley’s totally unfiltered bombshells, and whether Taylor Swift might be pulling off the greatest long game in music history. Check out Nora’s book and podcast here: 📖 Hit Girls by Nora Princiotti 🎧 Every Single Album Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off. Cozy Earth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code POP for 40% off best-selling temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Quince: Go to Quince.com/apologist for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Nutrafol: For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code POP. (00:00) 🎤 Introduction — Meet Nora Princiotti and the book that rewrites pop history: Hit Girls. (04:58) 👩‍🎤 Authenticity in Pop — Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavigne, and why being “real” became a trap. (10:22) 🎧 Poptimism vs Rockism — What’s “real music” anyway? We dive into the early 2000s’ biggest culture war. (19:00) 🌸 Interviewing Miley Cyrus — Nora’s interview with Miley, unfiltered stories, and emotional honesty from the popstar. (26:00) 💿 Miley Album Recs — Where to start if you’ve only heard “Flowers” and “Party in the U.S.A.” (36:10) 🎶 “Since U Been Gone” — The story behind Kelly Clarkson’s scream-your-heart-out hit and the pop comeback no one saw coming. (43:56) 🪩 Taylor Swift — The rerecords, the rage, and her business plays... Did she devalue her own masters on purpose? (47:58) 👑 Brat Summer & Cowboy Carter — Cultural saturation, chart performance, and what we’re actually listening to. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

If you like chaos, congratulations, this episode is tailor-made for you. We’ve got major courtroom drama in the Blake Lively vs Justin Baldoni case, Taylor Swift blending into Travis Kelce’s family wedding, Meghan Markle twerking (?), and a manifestation debate no one asked for. Plus, the woo-woo polyamory breakdown that needs to be studied. (00:00) 👩🏼‍⚖️ Blake Lively vs. Justin Baldoni - Court bombshells, conspiracy theories, and one very shady filing. (12:59) 💍 Taylor Swift at Travis Kelce’s Family Wedding - We’re talking dresses, dancing, and… was that a Swiftie infiltration? (19:46) 👑 Meghan Markle’s Hospital Dance Video - Is it cute or is it cringe? Discuss. (26:13) 🌻 Hailey Bieber’s Therapeutic Summer - Instagram captions don’t lie. We decode. (31:59) 🍼 Lauren Bostick Manifested Motherhood - What she said about fertility broke the internet. Let’s unpack. (42:28) 🔥 Expanded Monogamy, Burning Man, and The Goddess Pipeline - Truly one of the craziest things we’ve ever covered. Brandy Melville models involved. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. Rocket Money: Reach your money goals faster with Rocket Money at RocketMoney.com/POP #sponsored For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Chanler’s back from the flight from hell—complete with zero legroom, tarmac heat, and a bralette breakdown. Lauren lands from St. Barth and immediately roasts the snack box struggle. The sisters debrief their Juicy Scoop appearance, dish on Brooklyn upgrades, and dive into the latest Karen Read courtroom twists. Then it’s The Valley's most overblown scandal (a pantry tequila swig??), Blake Lively’s legal backpedaling, Taylor Swift’s mini dress moment, and why Ubah’s fiancé might be the hottest man in Bravo history. Timestamps: [00:00] ✈️ Flight from Hell — Chanler barely survives United's final row with no AC, no food, and full claustrophobia. She strips. Literally. [10:00] 🎤 Juicy Scoop & Jet Lag — Post-interview blackout and a proud sister moment over their Heather McDonald appearance. [11:30] 🏡 Brooklyn Era Incoming — Chanler shares details on her dreamy new apartment: double square footage and heated bathroom floors. [15:00] ⚖️ Karen Read Trial Gets Messier — FBI investigations, hostile witnesses, and a town with collective amnesia. It’s getting wild. [20:00] 🍾 Pantrygate on The Valley — Did a secret tequila swig mean more? Janet stirs the pot hard and the girls call BS on the drinking drama. [25:00] 💔 Jesse & Michelle Meltdown — Jesse’s verbal abuse, Michelle’s glow-up, and why divorce might’ve saved her personality. [28:00] 🧾 Blake Lively's Legal Retreat — She’s trying to drop the emotional distress claim—but keep her options open? We see you, Blake. [33:00] 🎭 Sutton Foster Steps Out (Silently) — Hugh Jackman’s girlfriend skips the press line while Deborra-Lee Furness drops spiritual shade. [36:00] 👠 Taylor Swift at Monkey Bar — Black mini dress, diamond tennis bracelet, and... platform heels? The girls weigh in on the look. [40:00] 👙 Bethenny’s Bikini Clapback — Bethenny hits the swimwear runway and defends her “cute tush.” The sisters are divided. [45:00] 🩻 Kylie’s Boob Job Details — 450cc, moderate profile, under the muscle. Kylie finally shares her plastic surgery specs. [50:00] 💍 Ubah Gets Her Man — Ubah Hassan’s new fiancé is hot, tall, and rich. Chanler is unwell. Jill Zarin thinks it’s divine intervention. [55:00] 💔 Lauren Sanchez Grace Clause — Why does Sutton get heat but Lauren Sanchez gets worshipped? The girls make their case. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

This week, Lauren and Chanler are coming to you from full LA trip prep mode. From Beyoncé's celestial performance to Mormon Wives chaos, they're breaking down the biggest stories. Expect mystery, mom drama, reality TV breakdowns, and one very bold Vogue request. • [00:00] 🎬 Packing, filming, and a camera setup saga—plus, why Chanler is unusually zen pre-LA • [07:46] 🎤 Beyoncé’s LA concert: iconic cameos, wardrobe wins, and a soft launch for Jay-Z's redemption arc? • [13:46] ⚖️ Karen Read trial deep dive: conspiracies, Facebook moms, and a possible swingers' night with a garage door guy • [24:11] 🥃 Sandy Cohen, The OC, and an unforgettable party moment involving a very lost wristwatch • [26:51] 📺 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: friendship fallouts, glam mom interventions, and shifting alliances on-screen • [39:21] ✂️ Book deals, hair-related shade, and the moment the group chat energy shifted on camera • [41:41] 🍼 Emotions run high with a pregnancy reveal and a redemption arc that hits surprisingly hard • [47:11] 💍 Engagement rumors swirl as an NFL legend updates his yacht name and sparks internet theories • [50:11] 👑 Meghan Markle’s alleged pitch to be on every Vogue cover—and what reportedly happened next • [53:41] 🧾 Brittany Bateman’s legal drama heats up—featuring lawsuits, former friends, and court filings • [56:51] 💸 Dakota Johnson talks rent struggles, career rejections, and what “making it” actually looked like Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial  interest in products or services referred to in this episode. OneSkin: Get 15% off OneSkin with the code Popapologists at https://www.oneskin.co/ #oneskinpod #sponsored For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get a bonus episode of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Fresh off their Ballerina Farm pilgrimage, the girls are back—and chaos reigns. Lauren and Chanler unpack the alleged threat Blake Lively’s legal team made against Taylor Swift (yes, the one about exposing 10 years of private texts 😳). Then it’s a deep dive into the Secret Lives of Mormon Wives: ketamine therapy, family betrayal, facelifts, and MomTok delusions. Plus, major developments in the Karen Read trial and Cassie Ventura’s devastating testimony in the Diddy case. You’re not ready. 👀 ⏱️ Chapter Timestamps: [00:00–01:00] 🐄 Back from Ballerina Farm: A recap of their visit to Utah with Courtney Grow [01:00–13:00] 💔 Taylor vs. Blake: The alleged threat, the fallout, and the godmother betrayal [13:00–16:00] 👀 Travis Kelsey unfollows Ryan, Reputation (TV) hints, and the AMAs theory [16:00–44:00] 🎬 Secret Lives of Mormon Wives S2: Taylor’s heartbreak, toxic parents, and ketamine therapy [44:00–45:30] ✈️ PSA: Why Provo dating is a danger zone [45:30–54:00] ⚖️ Karen Read trial update: Discredited expert testimony, taillight confusion, and police cover-up concerns [54:00–55:30] 😠 Sgt. Yuri Bucha's shady performance on the stand [55:30–01:02:00] 💣 Diddy trial: Cassie’s testimony, freak off allegations, and the breakdown of his decade-long abuse [01:02:00–01:03:00] 🧠 Why this matters: justice for victims and Cassie’s stand [01:03:00–01:04:00] 🎤 Outro: Upcoming content, love for the Global Elite, and farewell until Friday Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial interest in products or services referred to in this episode. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chanler’s dad, a family law attorney, returns to share legal wisdom on divorce, prenups, and child support, plus wild stories like chasing stolen goods. They reflect on their LDS upbringing, raising five daughters, and pursuing dreams at any age. ⏱️ Timestamps [00:00–02:00] 🎙️ Dad’s Return Listener love brings Dad back. [02:00–04:00] 💕 Deb’s Friendship Dad cherishes his 42-year marriage. [04:00–09:00] 👧 Raising Daughters Mom’s strictness, faith, and reading shaped success. [09:00–10:00] ⚖️ Baby Names Courts don’t block odd names. [10:00–13:00] 💸 Income Lies Fight ex’s fraud; ditch shady lawyers. [13:00–17:00] 🕵️‍♂️ Attorney Choice Pick specialists, trust gut, watch judges. [17:00–19:00] 💳 Blocked Accounts Lawyer up for support orders. [19:00–21:00] 💼 Post-Divorce Work Both spouses must work; skills matter. [21:00–23:00] 😈 Bad Behavior Affairs rarely affect no-fault divorce. [23:00–27:00] 👨‍👧 Five Girls Dad navigated hormones; Mom was strict. [27:00–30:00] 💔 Divorce Tips Seek faith, a friend; try saving marriage. [30:00–33:00] 📈 Impulsive Divorces More common, but kids suffer. [33:00–38:00] ⚖️ Law Path Started law at 30 with three kids. [38:00–41:00] 🚀 Chase Dreams Pursue goals at any age. [41:00–44:00] 📝 Prenups Fair prenups share future earnings. [44:00–48:00] 🧗‍♀️ College Days Lauren’s risky dates; sisters’ server jobs. [48:00–50:00] 🦅 Daughters’ Paths All chose bold careers, not law. [50:00–52:00] 💡 New Careers Nursing, paralegal, sales for reentry. [52:00–57:00] 🚨 Wild Tales Limo attorney; stolen goods chase. [57:00–59:00] 💰 Greed’s Cost Hidden assets don’t pay off. [59:00–01:01:00] 🌟 No Status Raised valuing love, not pedigree. [01:01:00–End] 🎤 Sign-Off Dad’s 25 followers get love. Follow: @popapologists See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

The girls are back from wedding bliss and diving headfirst into hot topics—from a possible Taylor Swift pregnancy to Diddy’s disturbing trial details. Chanler dishes on an unexpected urgent care visit, while Lauren unpacks blind items about Blake Lively’s rumored fallout with Taylor. They debate the Karen Read trial, analyze Meghan and Harry’s Beyoncé date night, and break down why a 24-year-old pageant queen is outsmarting all of us with $9 million in real estate. Drama, speculation, and Chanel denim slander—this episode has it all. [00:00–03:00] 💊 Post-Wedding Urgent Care Chanler reveals her rough post-honeymoon health scare and how “traveler’s issues” sent her to urgent care. [03:00–05:00] 🌽 Mother’s Day & Corn Cob Shame The girls reflect on a sweet Mother’s Day… until a corn-eating incident leaves Lauren humiliated. [06:00–08:00] ⚖️ Should They Cover the Diddy Trial? They discuss whether they should pivot into full-on legal podcasters and break down audience appetite for darkness. [08:00–10:00] ☕ Taylor & Travis Reappear! Taylor and Travis were spotted with both moms on Mother's Day, sparking pregnancy or engagement rumors. [10:00–12:00] 👜 The Chanel 25 Bag Debate Lauren critiques Taylor’s controversial denim Chanel bag and the brand’s identity crisis. [12:00–15:00] 🤰 Engagement or Baby on the Way? Speculation: is Taylor secretly pregnant—or just shopping hobo bags with bad posture? [15:00–18:00] 💍 DeuxMoi’s Blind Hint + Pregnancy Test Panic A DeuxMoi tease hints at an engagement, while Chanler has her own pregnancy test scare. [19:00–21:00] 🧐 Karen Read Trial Talk Begins The girls passionately defend Karen and wonder why the supposed “cover-up crew” seems so bad at covering up. [21:00–27:00] 🧪 Karen Theories & Cocktail Glass Debate In-depth theorizing: how did the glass stay intact? Why did no one text about the body? They’re confused and obsessed. [29:00–32:00] 📣 Taylor Subpoenaed in Blake Lawsuit Taylor’s fiery denial of involvement in “It Ends With Us” is dissected line by line. [32:00–35:00] 🚫 Girl Gang Fallout: Blake is OUT With Blake uninvited from Gigi’s party and Travis unfollowing Ryan, it looks like Taylor is officially over it. [35:00–38:00] 🔥 Blind Item: Blake Tried to Seduce Justin?! A wild blind claims Blake made a move on Justin… and Taylor may have spilled it to Brittany Mahomes. [39:00–42:00] 🧨 Diddy Trial Breakdown (Warning: Graphic) Shocking opening day testimony is covered, from assault to bribes to male escorts and control. [43:00–45:00] 👑 Jordan Hudson’s Real Estate Empire Bill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend just bought $9M in condos. The girls are stunned and impressed. [45:00–48:00] 🧠 The Psychology of Jordan Hudson Is this 5D chess? They analyze the strategy and ROI behind her sugar baby-to-landlord pipeline. [49:00–52:00] 🤠 Meghan & Harry at Cowboy Carter They break down Meghan’s outfit, Harry’s hat, and why this photo dump hits different. [52:00–55:00] 👑 The Royal Family’s PR Games With no signs of reconciliation, the girls predict Harry and Meghan’s fading relevance as the next gen grows up. [55:00–57:00] 💸 Brand Longevity Doubts for Meghan & Harry Do they have enough “product” to support the lifestyle? Lauren goes full monologue. [57:00–End] 🎤 Signing Off with Love Back from the wedding and ready to spill all the tea, the girls close with love for the listeners and a reminder to subscribe for more! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

While Chanler is off honeymooning, Lauren is joined by one of her closest friends and the chicest blonde she knows — Elizabeth. The duo dive deep into royal chaos, from Meghan Markle's HRH mess to Prince William's fury, and break down the Walton Goggins and Amy Lou Wood drama. They also tackle the shocking story of a ring-copying sister-in-law, Jordan Hudson's PR reign over Bill Belichick, and a family feud brewing in the Beckham clan. Plus, a Capri travel segment with insider tips closes the show. ⏱️ Chapter Timestamps 00:00 – Meet Elizabeth 👯‍♀️ Chanler is on her honeymoon, so Lauren invites bestie Elizabeth to co-host. They chat Chandler’s gorgeous Prospect Park wedding and kick off a Capri-themed giveaway. 07:00 – The Ring Copy Heard Round the Family 💍 A listener dilemma: her future sister-in-law copies her exact engagement ring — then drags it on TikTok. The girls are scandalized. 11:00 – Meghan Markle Gossip Bombshell ☕ An anonymous source shares insider PR tea on Meghan’s fame strategy pre-Harry. Spoiler: it involves a deck of rich men at events. 13:00 – Meghan’s HRH Title Scandal 🔥 Lauren and Elizabeth dissect Meghan’s latest controversy — using her royal title on a jam gift basket featured in a public podcast. 19:00 – Did Meghan Break the Rules? 👑 They debate if Meghan’s HRH use was innocent or strategic. Cue a full breakdown of royal branding, commercial promotion, and royal hypocrisy. 26:00 – Prince William’s Fury 💢 New reports claim William is planning to formally strip Harry and Meghan’s HRH titles when he becomes king. The girls weigh in on whether it’s deserved. 30:00 – Security Drama & Harry’s Court Loss 🔐 Prince Harry loses a UK court appeal over taxpayer-funded protection. Lauren and Elizabeth discuss whether the royal family is putting him in danger. 37:00 – Walton Goggins & Amy Lou Wood 💔 The two get into the juicy behind-the-scenes fallout between White Lotus stars Walton and Amy. From Instagram clues to awkward interviews, they speculate on what went down. 42:00 – Jordan Hudson’s PR Reign Over Belichick 🧠💅 Is Bill Belichick’s 24-year-old girlfriend tanking his career? The answer is possibly yes — and the girls go in hard on the weird dynamic. 47:00 – The Beckhams Are Feuding 🥊 David Beckham turns 50 — and Brooklyn + Nicola skip the bash. What’s going on between the Beckhams and Nicola Peltz? And who is Romeo’s new (and recycled?) girlfriend? 53:00 – ✨ Bonus Segment: Amalfi Coast & Capri Travel Guide Lauren is joined by photographer and Capri expert Natalie Obradovich for luxury recs, travel mistakes to avoid, where to stay, shop, and beach club like a local. We’re giving away a designer raffia bag of your choice (up to $3,000 in value!) to one lucky listener—just in time for summer getaways and poolside flexes. To enter: 👉 Follow @popapologists (https://instagram.com/popapologists), @natalie (https://instagram.com/natalie), and @elizabeth.gaucher (https://instagram.com/elizabeth.gaucher) on Instagram Bonus chance to win: ⭐ Leave a 5 star review for Pop Apologists on Apple Podcasts 🎉 GIVEAWAY ALERT: Win Your Dream Summer Bag! Check out our amazing sponsors: BetterHelp: Pop Apologists is sponsored by BetterHelp. We’re all better with help. Visit BetterHelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS (http://betterhelp.com/POPAPOLOGISTS) to get 10% off your first month. Cozy Earth: To celebrate Moms everywhere, visit CozyEarth.com (http://cozyearth.com/) and use code POP for 40% off your entire order. Because she deserves the best! Hero Bread: Hero Bread is offering 10% off your order. Go to hero.co (http://hero.co/) and use code POP at checkout. Nutrafol: Find out why Nutrafol is the best-selling hair growth supplement brand at Nutrafol.com (http://nutrafol.com/) promo code POP. Quince: Treat your closet to a little summer glow-up with Quince. Go to http://quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial  interest in products or services referred to in this episode. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Lauren and Chan dive into everything we know so far from Karen Read’s retrial — prosecution and defense strategy, courtroom drama, and key witness moments. It’s all on the table. 00:00 – 08:00 Wedding Week Catch-Up 08:01 – 10:59 Case Background & Legal Overview 11:00 – 12:59 Media Impact & Public Perception 13:00 – 15:59 Jury Insights & Legal Strategy 16:00 – 18:59 Key Players & Investigation Focus 19:00 – 22:59 Scene Details & Timeline Questions 23:00 – 24:59 Financial Fallout & Defense Structure 25:00 – 27:59 New Evidence Introduced 28:00 – 32:59 Behavior, Phones & Property Changes 33:00 – 34:59 Search History Controversy 35:00 – 38:59 Opening Statements & Legal Framing 39:00 – 41:59 Witness Testimony & Trial Atmosphere 42:00 – 47:00 Expert Evidence & Courtroom Debates 47:01 – 48:59 Trial Momentum & What's Ahead 49:00 – 51:59 Pop Culture Pulse Check (Travis Kelce, Meghan Markle) 52:00 – 55:00 Podcast Reactions & Commentary Check out our amazing sponsors: MasterClass: Our listeners always get great discounts on MasterClass, of at least 15% off any annual membership at masterclass.com/popapologists .  Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial  interest in products or services referred to in this episode. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

In light of Karen Read’s retrial, Lauren and Chandler revisit her first trial from 2024. They walk through the full timeline, key evidence, legal strategies, and the emerging controversies surrounding law enforcement’s role in the investigation. 00:00 – 03:00 Intro, Format & Re-Release Context 03:01 – 05:00 Who Were John O’Keefe and Karen Read? 05:01 – 07:00 The Night in Question 07:01 – 10:00 Early Morning Discovery & Initial Reactions 10:01 – 13:00 Phone Records, Taillights & 911 Call 13:01 – 16:00 Charges, Legal Teams, & Investigation Overview 16:01 – 20:00 Evidence at the Scene 20:01 – 24:00 Conflicting Theories & Relationship Dynamics 24:01 – 28:00 Defense Strategy & Possible Coverup Claims 28:01 – 33:00 Missing Footage, Evidence Chain & Key Players 33:01 – 37:00 Surveillance Gaps & Timeline Breakdown 37:01 – 42:00 Technology Data, Text Patterns & Phones 42:01 – 47:00 Witness Testimony Challenges & Investigative Concerns 47:01 – 52:00 Prosecutorial Position & Rebuttals 52:01 – 57:00 Federal Oversight & External Reports 57:01 – 01:03:00 Final Review of Conflicting Evidence 01:03:01 – End What Comes Next & Closing Thoughts Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off.  Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial  interest in products or services referred to in this episode. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.

Marriage is magical… but also occasionally maddening. In this episode, we welcome licensed marriage and family therapist Aly Bullock, to spill her wisdom on making love last long after the honeymoon. 💥 [00:02:10] We kick it off with the most-asked question about long-term relationships—and a fresh perspective you probably haven’t heard before. 💃 [00:04:50] “Non-toxic drama”? Yes, it’s a thing—and you might just be obsessed with the concept. 👀 [00:10:45] How something as simple as eye contact might be the most underrated intimacy move. 📱 [00:12:00] The couples app that’s transforming everyday connection—one tiny prompt at a time. 🥴 [00:17:15] Is it possible to be happy, healthy, and passionate in the long run? Let’s just say this part might challenge your assumptions. 💔 [00:24:15] What to do when you’re years in and still unsure if your partner is “the one.” 😬 [00:27:15] The art of addressing a partner’s weight gain—with honesty and compassion. 💅 [00:33:00] What to say when your partner’s new look has you questioning everything—including their haircut choices. 💵 [00:36:10] Money dynamics in relationships: how to handle shifts in income and power without blowing things up. 👶 [00:41:50] Kids change everything—here’s how to stay close when chaos enters the chat. 🔐 [00:48:50] Trust issues and betrayal: what healing really looks like, and how to know when it’s time to walk away. 👪 [00:55:10] In-law boundaries, decoded. (Yes, you can set them without sparking family feuds.) Find Aly on social media at the handles @pairedapp and @relationshipswithaly where she shares relatable, actionable couples content and check out the show notes for 25% off a year membership to Paired premium to get her expert advice tailored specifically to you and your partner. http://www.paired.com/alypodcast Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop Clean Simple Eats protein powder and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Click here to try EarlyBird CBD/THC gummies and use code POP20 for 20% off.  Cozy Earth: Prioritize your sleep! Visit CozyEarth.com/POP and use our exclusive code POP for 40% off best-selling sheets, towels, pajamas, and more. And if you get a post-purchase survey, let them know you heard about Cozy Earth right here. Sleep Better with Cozy Earth. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Quince: Thoughtful. Timeless. Totally her. Shop Mother’s Day at Quince. Go to quince.com/apologist for free shipping on your order and 365-day returns.  Thrive Market: Ready to make the switch? Head to ThriveMarket.com/pop and get 30% off your first order, plus a FREE $60 gift! Please note this episode may contain paid endorsements and advertisements for products and services. Individuals on the show may have a direct or indirect financial  interest in products or services referred to in this episode. For more Pop Apologists, follow along at: @popapologists on Instagram Pop Apologists on YouTube To support the show, consider subscribing on Patreon or anywhere you listen to podcasts, where you can get bonus episodes of Pop Apologists every Monday and Friday! See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.