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Let’s Talk Logistics
Rocket Shipping
46 episodes
1 month ago
Let’s Talk Logistics is a podcast that brings together some of the logistics industry’s top voices. Hosted by Rocket Shipping’s CEO Gabe Pankonin, each episode features founders, CEOs, and experienced leaders in the space who dig into the real issues, trends, and innovations shaping the world of freight. From supply chain dynamics to the impact of market shifts and pendulum swings, these conversations offer practical insights and a candid look at what’s happening in logistics today. Ideal for shippers and industry pros looking to stay informed in a rapidly evolving space. Tune in and let’s talk LOGISTICS!
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Let’s Talk Logistics is a podcast that brings together some of the logistics industry’s top voices. Hosted by Rocket Shipping’s CEO Gabe Pankonin, each episode features founders, CEOs, and experienced leaders in the space who dig into the real issues, trends, and innovations shaping the world of freight. From supply chain dynamics to the impact of market shifts and pendulum swings, these conversations offer practical insights and a candid look at what’s happening in logistics today. Ideal for shippers and industry pros looking to stay informed in a rapidly evolving space. Tune in and let’s talk LOGISTICS!
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Let’s Talk Logistics
Let's Talk Logistics with Tapan Chaudhari
Tapan Chaudhari, founded Bubba.ai to fix what small carriers struggle with—dispatch. A voice-first AI that books loads, negotiates, and flags the fine print, it keeps one-to-five truck fleets running without offshore help. No fluff—just AI that works while the driver’s still in the seat.
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1 month ago
48 minutes

Let’s Talk Logistics
Let's Talk Logistics with Grace Maher
Grace Maher, helped turn OTR Solutions from a five-person startup into one of freight’s leading FinTechs—without losing sight of what carriers actually need. Inside: how factoring really works, where fraud is evolving, and why consolidation plays won’t fix broken execution. From instant funding to AI-backed auditing, this is what modern back-office support should look like. No fluff—just real talk from someone who’s still in it.
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2 months ago
58 minutes 10 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Ben Tschirgi
Ben Tschirgi, spent a decade selling freight before launching Science of Sales to fix what most teams get wrong—cold outreach. Inside: hitting the inbox, writing messages that actually get replies, and out-selling bigger teams without the bloat. No fluff—just tactics that win. Key Chapters: (0:00) Background and Introduction (1:29) Challenges in Cold Email Outreach (03:27) Transition from Sales to Management (7:02) Starting a New Business (13:18) Social Media and Personal Branding (21:16) Family and Personal Life (29:12) Exploring Custom CRM Solutions (29:59) Small Business vs. Startups (30:22) The Future of SaaS in Freight (31:44) AI's Role in Freight Tech (34:01) Challenges in Scaling a Business (39:23) Hiring and Team Management (42:27) The Evolution of Freight Tech (45:39) AI in Sales and Email Management (48:14) Building a SaaS Tool for Clients (50:41) Mistakes and Lessons Learned #LetsTalkLogistics #SalesStrategy #FreightTech #ColdEmail #B2BSales
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2 months ago
55 minutes 34 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Lance Healy, Scooter Sayers, Curtis Garrett
The NMFC got a major overhaul. 2,000+ codes changed. FAKs might finally die. Gabe sat down with some of the sharpest minds in LTL—Lance Healey, Curtis Garrett, and Scooter Sayers—to break down what this means for shippers, TMS platforms, and the future of freight. FedEx made a bold move. Not every carrier is following. This is where LTL’s headed.
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3 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 38 seconds

Let’s Talk Logistics
Let's Talk Logistics with Ben Jackson
Ben Jackson, built Bungii to deliver big and bulky freight—then COVID wiped out 95% of their revenue overnight. Instead of folding, they cut ad spend, rebuilt the model, and turned it into a B2B delivery machine with 15,000+ drivers and zero churn. This episode covers Final Mile execution, why agent networks are broken, and how to actually scale in this market. No fluff—just one of the best pivots in freight.   Key Chapters: (0:00) Background and Introduction (1:21) Ben's Background and Early Life (3:53) The Birth of Bungii (5:24) Scaling Bungii Nationwide (10:37) Challenges and Pivots During COVID-19 (16:04) Reinventing Bungii for B2B Success (22:23) The Unique Approach to Final Mile Delivery (29:51) Future of Final Mile and Bungii’s Vision (34:33) The Network Effect in Truckload Brokerage (38:07) Driver Recruitment and Retention (40:42) The Importance of Customer Feedback (43:13) Personal Background and American Experience (48:20) Balancing Family and Career (53:38) Final Thoughts and Business Advice
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4 months ago
1 hour 3 minutes 28 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Charlie Saffro
Charlie Saffro, never set out to build a top logistics recruiting firm, but CS Recruiting became just that. This episode dives into their rise, why most companies struggle to hire top talent, and how M&A, AI, and inbound strategies are transforming freight. Must-listen for anyone in logistics looking to hire smarter. Tune in now!
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4 months ago
57 minutes 14 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Kara Brown
Kara Brown, built the biggest GTM firm in freight—and she did it by staying laser-focused on what actually drives revenue. This episode covers why most brokers get ICP wrong, how to catch the 5% of buyers ready to move, and where inbound signals are hiding in plain sight. If you’re trying to grow in this market, start here.
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4 months ago
1 hour 14 minutes 56 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Clay Curran
Clay Curran, co-founder of FreshX, joined the pod to talk about solving one of LTL’s hardest problems: reefer. From last mile pilots to a full-on freight brokerage pivot, he breaks down how they landed on a software solution that actually works—giving brokers instant access to reefer capacity across 80+ carriers. No transaction fees. No messy workarounds. Just real rates and real coverage.
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5 months ago
44 minutes 22 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Garrett Allen
Garrett Allen, built LoadPartner, the first open-source TMS for freight brokers. We talk about why most platforms slow brokers down, how AI makes it easier to build what you need, and why owning your tech stack changes everything.
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5 months ago
50 minutes 14 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Ken Adamo
Ken Adam’s, been in data long enough to know what’s broken—and who’s just making noise. We got into freight platforms, media takes, and why he’s still the one people call when things go off the rails. No hype. Just the stuff that actually matters.
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5 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 26 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Steve Cox
Steve Cox, has seen every side of freight—CH Robinson, Access America, Coyote, and now Steam. We get into what it takes to build a $600M logistics company, how to survive the down cycle, and why the real risk is waiting too long. Worth the listen.
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5 months ago
55 minutes 32 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Chris Brewer
Chris Brewer built River City Logistics from the ground up—no VC, no shortcuts, just grit. We get into what it takes to scale a brokerage with assets and warehousing, why he still trains every new hire, and the moment he knew he had to fire a top performer. Freight built for the long haul. Worth the listen
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6 months ago
51 minutes 27 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Sam Tibbs
Sam Tibbs, built Trochi.AI to change how rate products work for brokers—giving them real control over their data and a piece of the upside. This episode breaks down why the old model fell apart, how better data shifts the market, and why broker ownership could change everything. A sharp look at where freight tech is heading. Worth the listen.
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6 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 33 seconds

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English Now Required For Truck Drivers?
A new executive order could take truckers off the road if they can’t speak English — and it’s already sparking a fight. We break down what’s actually changing, why it matters for road safety, jobs, and immigration, and where the real friction points are. Forget the headlines — here’s what’s really going on behind the scenes.
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6 months ago
14 minutes 54 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Matt Silver
Matt Silver, built Forager, sold it, and is back with Cardo. This one gets into cross-border freight, near shoring, and what it actually takes to build freight tech. Sharp, honest, and worth a listen.
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6 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 1 second

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Shopify and Chat GPT Shopping Integration?
​ChatGPT is getting a shopping cart. Leaked code points to a possible Shopify integration, letting users browse and buy products directly in the chat. No official confirmation yet, but the implications for e-commerce, logistics, and AI-driven retail are massive. We break down the clues, the stakes, and what it means if your go-to AI assistant starts selling. Key Chapters:   (0:00) Introduction and Overview (1:02) Unpacking the Evidence (2:30) Potential User Experience (3:22) Public Reaction and Concerns (4:08) OpenAI's Past and Future Strategies (5:17) Competitive Landscape (6:56) Impacts on E-commerce and Logistics (10:47) Conclusion and Key Takeaways #LetsTalkLogistics #ThisWeekinFreight #ChatGPTShopping #AICommerce #ShopifyIntegration #ChatGPTShopping #AICommerce #ShopifyIntegration
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6 months ago
12 minutes 14 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Eric Johnson
Eric Johnson, from JOC stopped by to talk about freight, media, and what happens when AI starts doing everyone’s job—including journalists. We got into the chaos around tariffs, why broker CEOs stay quiet, and where SaaS in freight tech might be heading. A little spicy, a lot relevant. Worth the listen.
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6 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes 10 seconds

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2025 Freight Rankings and What They Really Reveal
The 2025 3PL rankings are out, and the picture isn’t exactly pretty. Slower growth, shifting positions, and trade pressure are forcing even the biggest names to rethink their playbook.
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6 months ago
13 minutes 16 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Jesse Buckingham
Jesse Buckingham, helped sell Trucker Tools and ran private equity-backed freight tech—now he’s building AI agents to kill the busywork in brokerage. We get into why scaling with headcount is dead, how mid-size brokers can punch above their weight, and what AI actually means for freight.
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7 months ago
49 minutes 19 seconds

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Let's Talk Logistics with Bharath Krishnamoorthy
Bharath Krishnamoorthy, left law to fix how money moves in freight.We get into why brokers struggle with cash flow, how Denim is leveling the playing field, and why automation—not headcount—is the path to growth.
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7 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes 43 seconds

Let’s Talk Logistics
Let’s Talk Logistics is a podcast that brings together some of the logistics industry’s top voices. Hosted by Rocket Shipping’s CEO Gabe Pankonin, each episode features founders, CEOs, and experienced leaders in the space who dig into the real issues, trends, and innovations shaping the world of freight. From supply chain dynamics to the impact of market shifts and pendulum swings, these conversations offer practical insights and a candid look at what’s happening in logistics today. Ideal for shippers and industry pros looking to stay informed in a rapidly evolving space. Tune in and let’s talk LOGISTICS!