What if your biggest failure was the reason your next move actually worked?
That’s the story of Henry Rich—former candy entrepreneur turned neighborhood restaurateur—who’s spent the last 15 years building one of Brooklyn’s most beloved hospitality groups. He didn’t start with a restaurant pedigree or investor backing. He started with recession scars, a cheap lease, and a gut-level belief in community over concept.
In this episode, Henry unpacks how early failure gave him an “unfair advantage,” why occasion matters more than aesthetic, and the brutal economics of opening restaurants in 2025. We get into unit economics, location strategy, and why most restaurateurs are scaling too fast—and paying for it later.
This is for operators who’ve been burned, who are building back, or who are trying to play the long game in a short-term world.
To learn more about the Oberon Group and their work in Brooklyn and beyond, visit theoberon.co.
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur and the creator of the Restaurant Scaling System. I’ve spent decades in the industry, building, scaling, and coaching restaurants to become more profitable and sustainable. On this show, I cut through the noise to give you real, actionable strategies that help independent restaurant owners run smarter, more successful businesses.
In this episode, I dig into how smart menu design can completely transform your restaurant’s performance. I explain how structure, storytelling, and price positioning shape the guest experience and directly impact profitability. You’ll learn how to streamline decisions, highlight your most profitable items, and turn your menu into one of your most powerful marketing tools.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Restaurant Marketing Masterclass
01:02 Understanding Menu Structure for Profitability
03:17 Designing Menus for Decision Efficiency
05:12 The Importance of Price Positioning
06:11 Crafting Emotional Menu Descriptions
07:38 Actionable Steps to Improve Your Menu
If you’ve got a marketing or profitability related question for me, email me directly at josh@joshkopel.com and include Office Hours in the subject line. If you'd like to scale the profitability of your restaurant in only 5 days, sign up for our FREE 5 Day Restaurant Profitability Challenge by visiting https://joshkopel.com.
Could you quit at the top of your game–just as your dreams were coming true?
At the height of critical acclaim, Kevin Tien walked away from Himitsu, not because it failed, but because it no longer aligned. That decision rewired how he thinks about success, leadership, and the cost of ignoring your gut.
In this conversation, Kevin opens up about leaving good money and momentum on the table, learning the hard way that growth without clarity leads to chaos, and why he now builds restaurants that invest in people first—even if it hurts margins. We dig into the emotional toll of misaligned partnerships, the power of complementary leadership, and how quitting isn’t weakness—it’s evolution.
If you're stuck between what’s working and what’s right, this one's for you.
To learn more on Moon Rabbit, visit moonrabbitdc.com.
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
What if the true path to restaurant profitability is rethinking our business model entirely?Close to a decade ago, today’s guest changed the way I saw our industry forever and he’s here to do the same for you.
Today we sit down with Celebrity Chef Neal Fraser as he pulls back the curtain on how Redbird—a 50-seat dining room attached to a cathedral—became one of LA’s most dynamic and profitable hospitality businesses.
He shares how focusing on events over covers gave him control, stability, and scale. We get into the systems he built, the mindset shift that made it possible, and why too many operators are white-knuckling restaurants that no longer serve them.
This is for operators tired of hoping for Wednesday walk-ins—and ready to take back control of their business.
To learn more about Redbird, visit https://redbird.la.
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur and the creator of the Restaurant Scaling System. I’ve spent decades in the industry, building, scaling, and coaching restaurants to become more profitable and sustainable. On this show, I cut through the noise to give you real, actionable strategies that help independent restaurant owners run smarter, more successful businesses.
In this episode, I break down why discounting is one of the biggest traps in the restaurant industry and how it can actually hurt your brand long term. I explain how to build real value through storytelling and emotional connection instead of cutting prices. You’ll learn how to create scarcity, meaning, and loyalty that drive both profit and trust—without relying on discounts to fill your seats.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Restaurant Marketing Strategies
01:50 The Dangers of Discounting
05:39 Building Value Through Meaning and Scarcity
If you’ve got a marketing or profitability related question for me, email me directly at josh@joshkopel.com and include Office Hours in the subject line. If you'd like to scale the profitability of your restaurant in only 5 days, sign up for our FREE 5 Day Restaurant Profitability Challenge by visiting https://joshkopel.com.
What if chasing prestige meant sacrificing everything else?
For Jeff Bell, managing partner at the iconic PDT in NYC, bartending has never just been about cocktails—it’s about culture, connection, and the quiet cost of longevity.
In this episode, he shares what 15 years inside one of the world’s most celebrated bars has taught him about endurance, humility, and the evolution of hospitality. We get into why bartending is both beautiful and brutal, how alcohol amplifies more than it numbs, and what makes a bar truly last. This isn’t about kitschy phone booths or speakeasy gimmicks—it’s about the discipline and heart behind enduring relevance.
If you’ve ever wondered what it really takes to build something timeless, this is that conversation.
To learn more about PDT and their award-winning cocktail program, visit pdtnyc.com.
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
What if trying to control everything is the very thing holding your business back? Most operators think control means being everywhere at once. Today’s guest thinks that mindset is killing your business.
After opening 100+ stores, managing $100M in revenue, and building teams across international brands, Won J Jeong realized the real goal isn’t knowing everything—it’s building systems so you don’t have to.
In this episode, we unpack how training becomes a growth engine, not a time suck. Won shares how AI is transforming onboarding from guesswork to guided execution, why memorizing SOPs is a waste of leadership potential, and the real ROI of training that makes your team independent—not dependent.
If you’re ready to stop firefighting and start scaling, this episode is your blueprint.
To learn more about Smart Trainer and the future of restaurant training, visit SmartTrainerApp.com.
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur and the creator of the Restaurant Scaling System. I’ve spent decades in the industry, building, scaling, and coaching restaurants to become more profitable and sustainable. On this show, I cut through the noise to give you real, actionable strategies that help independent restaurant owners run smarter, more successful businesses.
In this episode, I dive into what it really takes to scale a restaurant successfully—and why opening a second location isn’t always the right next step. I break down how to strengthen your systems, master your financials, and get your house in order before expanding. I share the key lessons I’ve learned about maximizing one restaurant’s potential first, so growth becomes sustainable, not stressful.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Restaurant Success
01:51 The Myths of Expansion
05:40 Preparing for Expansion
07:07 Actionable Steps for Growth
If you’ve got a marketing or profitability related question for me, email me directly at josh@joshkopel.com and include Office Hours in the subject line. If you'd like to scale the profitability of your restaurant in only 5 days, sign up for our FREE 5 Day Restaurant Profitability Challenge by visiting https://joshkopel.com.
What if AI could make your restaurant more human, not less?
That’s the bold idea Devana Bhargava is betting on. As a product leader at Yelp, she’s rethinking restaurant tech from the inside out—building tools that support staff instead of replacing them.
In this episode, we dig into the design philosophy behind Yelp Host, why your Yelp page converts better than your Instagram, and how Devana’s team builds with operators, not just for them. She shares the questions that unlock real insights, the AI features that are actually working, and why independents are outpacing the big guys with smarter tech.
This one’s for every operator who’s tired of tech that gets in the way—and ready for tools that finally get it right.
To learn more about how Yelp is supporting restaurants with human-first tools, visit restaurants.yelp.com.
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
Does the world really need another coffee shop?
That’s the question Darren Spicer had to answer before walking away from a six-figure career to start Clutch Coffee. The answer wasn’t coffee—it was connection.
In this episode, Darren breaks down why community, not caffeine, is his true product, what he learned from Dutch Bros, how he made it his own, and why being “Chick-fil-A for coffee” means never settling for average service.
For every operator asking what business they’re really in—this episode delivers clarity.
To learn more about Clutch Coffee Bar and their work in the community, visit clutchcoffeebar.com.
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur and the creator of the Restaurant Scaling System. I’ve spent decades in the industry, building, scaling, and coaching restaurants to become more profitable and sustainable. On this show, I cut through the noise to give you real, actionable strategies that help independent restaurant owners run smarter, more successful businesses.
In this episode, I dive into how to turn restaurant events into true profit centers instead of simple marketing stunts. I explain why events should be treated as products with clear margins and measurable results, and how that mindset shift can transform your bottom line. I walk through the systems I use to plan, price, and evaluate events so they drive both revenue and brand loyalty.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Restaurant Marketing Strategies
01:50 Transforming Events into Profit Centers
05:44 Actionable Steps for Event Profitability
If you’ve got a marketing or profitability related question for me, email me directly at josh@joshkopel.com and include Office Hours in the subject line. If you'd like to scale the profitability of your restaurant in only 5 days, sign up for our FREE 5 Day Restaurant Profitability Challenge by visiting https://joshkopel.com.
How do you define luxury? What if it isn’t about white tablecloths—but about meeting every guest, every need, every time?
Aaron Bludorn didn’t just open a restaurant—he opened a new playbook for hospitality. After a business education under Daniel Boulud and Gavin Kaysen, Aaron took a massive bet: move to Houston, build a concept mid-pandemic, and serve a community he was still getting to know. And that gamble paid off.
In this episode, he shares how Bludorn became a “Swiss army knife” of occasion—able to host everything from business dinners to caviar-and-burgers at the bar. He also shares how flexibility became a growth engine and how promoting from within turned his group into a magnet for top-tier talent.
This is for operators who want to scale without losing soul—and win by design, not default.
To explore his restaurant, visit bludornrestaurant.com
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
Everyone says restaurants are about food, service, or scale. But what if it’s really about emotional engineering?
Yann didn’t come from the kitchen. He came from the world of marketing and strategy. But when he opened Boqueria, he reimagined what a restaurant could be—vibe-forward, high-design, emotionally resonant, and built to scale.
In this episode, Yann breaks down why restaurants are “weak link systems,” how to distill a concept to its essence, and why tension—not harmony—is the secret to a space that sings.
If you’ve ever wanted to build something iconic without following industry dogma, this episode will challenge everything you’ve been told.
To learn more about Boqueria, visit boqueriarestaurant.com
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur and the creator of the Restaurant Scaling System. I’ve spent decades in the industry, building, scaling, and coaching restaurants to become more profitable and sustainable. On this show, I cut through the noise to give you real, actionable strategies that help independent restaurant owners run smarter, more successful businesses.
In this episode, I dive into how to market restaurants more effectively by treating each service as its own unique offering. I explain why lunch, dinner, and brunch each need clear promises and tailored marketing, and how productizing those services can transform customer acquisition. I break down the phased approach I use to launch them and the strategies that actually move the needle on performance.
Takeaways
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Restaurant Marketing Strategies
01:49 Understanding Different Service Times
05:39 Productizing Each Service for Success
08:51 Implementing and Measuring Marketing Strategies
If you’ve got a marketing or profitability related question for me, email me directly at josh@joshkopel.com and include Office Hours in the subject line. If you'd like to scale the profitability of your restaurant in only 5 days, sign up for our FREE 5 Day Restaurant Profitability Challenge by visiting https://joshkopel.com.
Eric Bost built something remarkable in LA. Then, like so many, he lost it to the pandemic. But what came next wasn’t a pivot. It was a complete reinvention.
Today, Eric runs four thriving restaurants in a market many still underestimate—North County, San Diego. In this episode, he breaks down how he rebuilt his career by doubling down on team culture, operational clarity, and a commitment to place over prestige. If you’ve ever felt defined by a loss—this episode is your reset.
To explore his work, visit restaurantlilo.com and thisiscampfire.com
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
What if your next move isn’t another location—it’s owning a moment in your guest’s life?
Mark Rampolla built ZICO into a category and now backs founders with a $600M fund; his playbook is built for operators under pressure. We talk about the five-year reality of product-market fit, why velocity per store beats “more units,” and how owning a specific occasion (post-workout, post-shift, post-party) unlocks scale.
Mark breaks down risk discipline—grow deep before wide—and what acquirers actually buy: a future customer and a missing occasion, not just a product.
If you’re tempted to expand because it feels like progress, this episode shows a sharper path: focus, proof, and traction that travels.
To learn more, visit groundforcecapital.com
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
I’m Josh Kopel, a Michelin-awarded restaurateur and the creator of the Restaurant Scaling System. I’ve spent decades in the industry, building, scaling, and coaching restaurants to become more profitable and sustainable. On this show, I cut through the noise to give you real, actionable strategies that help independent restaurant owners run smarter, more successful businesses.
In this episode, I dive into strategies for boosting restaurant profitability without raising prices. I explain why it’s so important to see restaurants as providers of time slots rather than just food and beverage, and how that shift impacts service. I share why the first 20 minutes of the guest experience matter most, plus the tactics I use to improve pacing, satisfaction, and table turns.
Takeaways:
Chapters
00:00 Introduction to Restaurant Success
01:21 Reframing Restaurant Profitability
02:51 Understanding Time as Inventory
05:45 Optimizing Service for Profitability
If you’ve got a marketing or profitability related question for me, email me directly at josh@joshkopel.com and include Office Hours in the subject line. If you'd like to scale the profitability of your restaurant in only 5 days, sign up for our FREE 5 Day Restaurant Profitability Challenge by visiting https://joshkopel.com.
What if your factory was idling, your shelves were empty, and your business had just lost $15 million—and you still chose not to lay off a single person?
That’s the line Pepper Baumer drew. As the third-generation CEO of Crystal Hot Sauce, he inherited a 100-year-old legacy—and nearly watched it collapse under the weight of supply chain failure, market loss, and generational transition. But instead of shrinking, he stood firm.
In this episode, we get into the decision that nearly cost him everything—and why he says it saved the company. Pepper shares why one $100K social media experiment rewired their marketing strategy and how he’s introducing a century-old product to an entirely new generation.
This one’s for operators who believe legacy doesn’t mean stuck—and that people come before profit, even when it hurts.
To learn more about Crystal Hot Sauce, visit crystalhotsauce.com
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
If your guests remember the night but forget the meal, did you succeed?
Sara Fay Egan never planned to run restaurants—she built experiences. After a career in high-end event planning, she was thrust into leadership at Beale Street Blues Company after the sudden passing of her father. But instead of mimicking traditional models, she brought an outsider’s eye—and a showrunner’s instinct.
In this conversation, we break down the strategy behind “improvisational hospitality,” the power of sensory immersion, and why giving your team the freedom to perform might be your strongest cultural move.
If you’ve ever wondered how to make your place unforgettable—this is the playbook.
To learn more about Beale Street Blues Company, visit bealestreetbluescompany.com
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content:
What if your restaurant’s biggest threat isn’t your competition—it’s your own irrelevance?
Jean-Pierre Lacroix has spent decades helping brands regain their footing after losing touch with what made them matter.
In today’s conversation, we unpack what’s killing restaurant loyalty—and it’s not what you think. Jean-Pierre argues that operators are over-indexing on price and efficiency, while starving their brand of emotional connection. We get into how to build a restaurant that creates memories, not just meals; why frequency is the new frontier of growth; and how to design an experience so strong, your customers do the marketing for you.
This isn’t about promotions. It’s about staying relevant, meaningful, and unforgettable.
To learn more about his work in brand transformation, visit sld.com
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Free 5-Day Restaurant Marketing Masterclass – This is a live training where you'll learn the exact campaigns Josh has built and tested in real restaurants to attract new guests, increase visit frequency, and generate sales on demand. Save your spot at restaurantbusinessschool.com
Full Comp is brought to you by Yelp for Restaurants: In July 2020, a few hundred employees formed Yelp for Restaurants. Our goal is to build tools that help restaurateurs do more with limited time.
We have a lot more content coming your way! Be sure to check out our other content: