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For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Product-Led Alliance
50 episodes
7 months ago
Here at PLA, all roads lead to product-led growth and our goal with For the Love of Product is to shine a light on those who are really living, breathing, and embodying PLG. Each episode, weโ€™ll be diving into both the passion and the practice of product leadership through thought-provoking interviews with CPOs, Founders, and Inventors.
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Here at PLA, all roads lead to product-led growth and our goal with For the Love of Product is to shine a light on those who are really living, breathing, and embodying PLG. Each episode, weโ€™ll be diving into both the passion and the practice of product leadership through thought-provoking interviews with CPOs, Founders, and Inventors.
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For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Advancing your career, with Shelley Perry

Weโ€™ve just hit 50, and weโ€™re ready to celebrate!

By 50, we donโ€™t mean 50 years old. Weโ€™ve hit 50 episodes covering all things product. 

Weโ€™ve interviewed the best and brightest in the industry, getting their personal stories and incredible career journeys. From the start of their product paths, their successes, and all the lessons theyโ€™ve learned along the way, weโ€™ve got podcasts from every walk of life. The one thing they all have in common is a love of product.

Join Tiama Hanson-Drury, our fantastic host, as she hits her milestone 50th interview with Shelley Perry, Board Director, Operator turned Investor and SaaS ScaleUp Expert. 

Whatโ€™s in store for you?

Shelley talks about all things network and scaling. It's not just what you know but who you know and how you can leverage those relationships for your product. Take it from her: your network can become an essential part of your professional toolkit. And it's not just about getting jobs; it's about sharing expertise, learning from others, and contributing to a broader community to find the right leaders for your company.

Shelley shares the secrets of building genuine relationships over time and how that can help scale your product. Engaging in communities, sharing valuable content, and participating in discussions are all powerful ways to expand your circle. Learn to be an active part of conversations in your industry. Shelley teaches you how to Invest in your people so theyโ€™ll invest back in you.

Key talking points

  • The importance of networking throughout one's career for advancement and support. 
  • How to chart your career path, get feedback, and transition to new roles. 
  • Finding the right product leader for your company's stage of growth. 
  • The unique challenges of growing a startup into a successful scaleup. 

A little about the guest

Shelley attended the University of Denver and is now an investor, board director, and advisor specializing in helping SaaS companies accelerate growth during the scale-up stage. She has deep operator experience from her past roles as a software operator, CPO, and CEO and loves to share her expertise to help others in their product journey.

Want more?

There are 49 more episodes of goodness to listen to. Itโ€™s time to make a cup of tea, cozy into a blanket, and listen away. Or maybe youโ€™re more of a podcast-on-the-go type of person. Hit that play button as you start your drive to work or get on that running path. 

Wherever you are, our podcast is ready for you.

Be sure to catch more episodes of For the Love of Product!

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1 year ago
58 minutes 59 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Product leadership and personal growth, with Ninika Nanda

In this episode, weโ€™re joined by Ninika Nanda, a visionary leader with an impressive track record. Over the past two decades, she has seamlessly navigated product and engineering roles, showcasing a deep understanding of both domains. Join her conversation today to learn how she spanned various sectors, including banking, financial services, and retail e-commerce, all of which have made her a better product leader.


Dig into her story to see how Ninika embraced entrepreneurship, serving as a founder and contributing to the inception of impactful ventures. Throughout her roles, Ninika has consistently demonstrated proficiency in leadership strategy, adept team building, and fostering vibrant communities. Ninika teaches people how to foster collaborative environments that encourage creativity and productivity. A testament to her diverse skill set, this podcast is for anyone looking to enhance their product leadership.


Key talking points

  • Product leadership focus: Explore the passion and practice of product leadership, unraveling the head and heart behind product-led growth.


  • Cultural integration and diversity: Insights into Ninikaโ€™s journey, relocating to the UK, fostering a rich understanding of inclusivity, diversity, and cultural integration.


  • Seeking fulfillment: Ninika's professional journey is marked by a search for fulfillment, where she recognized her passion for solving customer and business problems, leading her to transition from engineering to product roles.


  • Mentorship and community building: Understand dedication to mentorship and community building, emphasizing knowledge-sharing and fostering growth within the product field.


  • Engaging with industry leaders: Learn how to create meaningful discussions with seasoned CTOs, heads of product, visionary founders, and investors, providing valuable insights and stories. 


  • Women in leadership roles in product: Ninika speaks on her presence as a woman leader in the product space, highlighting the significance of her perspective on women-related leadership.


  • Embracing change and challenges: Ninika emphasizes the importance of being open to change, welcoming challenges, and not being afraid of failure. Her willingness to experiment and face the unknown has played a crucial role in shaping her career and life.


A little about the guest

Ninika initially started as an engineer and later transitioned to product roles due to a quest for fulfillment and a desire to solve customer and business problems. Following her MBA, Ninika transitioned to a fulfilling role as a business analyst, focusing on building business case strategies and commercializing products. She developed leadership skills, led small and large teams, and gained confidence in utilizing her leadership. 


Ninika faced another turning point when she joined her husband in the UK. This involved leaving a senior position and a fantastic team to adapt to a new culture and environment. The move brought a mixture of excitement and nervousness, highlighting the challenges of relocating and experiencing a new culture. 

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1 year ago
44 minutes 2 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Navigating the product management landscape, with Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia

In this episode, weโ€™re joined by Carlos Gonzalez de Villaumbrosia, CEO of Product School, a global leader in product management training with a community of over 1 million product enthusiasts. 


Carlos explores key aspects of the product management landscape, including finding the right community for your product, why hands-on learning is the best way to jump into the PLG world and the challenges entrepreneurs face. With his storied career and tons of experience to share, don't miss this opportunity to learn from an industry expert and expand your product management knowledge.


Key talking points 

  • The importance of building a community 
  • The format of Product School's courses, which are designed to be flexible for students and instructors
  • How to master soft skills in product management, including communication, empathy, and collaboration
  • The significance of hands-on and observational learning in developing soft skills and product management expertise.
  • The challenges and sacrifices involved in starting and running a successful company
  • How to carefully select the right investor or partner when raising capital


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2 years ago
42 minutes 14 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Navigating the product manager rollercoaster, with Arvind Dutta

In this episode, weโ€™re joined by Arvind Dutta as he reflects on his multifaceted career in product management, emphasizing the customer-centric nature of the role. Listen to how he faces the challenges of fostering collaboration within teams and shares the vital role Microsoft Teams played during the pandemic. Arvind also discusses the product manager's unique position as an influencer and the emotional pendulum experienced in the role, advising a balanced perspective. 


Arvind explores the evolving impact of AI, the need to customize frameworks, and the critical role of storytelling in product management, underlining its power to convey concepts effectively. This insightful podcast sheds light on the dynamic and emotional aspects of the product management profession while offering valuable insights for navigating its complexities.


Key talking points

  • Arvindโ€™s enticing career journey
  • Challenges of collaboration
  • Impact of Microsoft Teams during the pandemic
  • Emotional pendulum in product management
  • The role of AI in product 
  • Customization of frameworks
  • Importance of storytelling


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2 years ago
46 minutes 17 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
How your own experiences can shape your product, with Liam Young

In this episode, weโ€™re joined by Liam Young, founder of Harper, a technology startup that helps retailers deliver in-store experiences to their online customers. Listen as Liam explores the origin of his company and the hurdles he faced during COVID-19, a tiring time for any business.


But thereโ€™s triumph despite the challenges, and Liam expands on how he pivoted from a marketplace to adding value to merchandisers and retailers as a B2B2C company during the pandemic.


Key talking points

  • Liamโ€™s career background 
  • How he effectively sold his product to merchants
  • Whatโ€™s next for Harper from a growth perspective
  • His plans for expanding Harper to additional markets
  • What advice heโ€™d give to people looking to get investments in their company
  • Harperโ€™s target personas and how they influence product decisions
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2 years ago
32 minutes 48 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
The biggest lessons learned after working at Meta for 17 years, with Naomi Gleit

Key Talking Points

  • Working on foundational products across the different Meta apps.
  • The high and low points of working at Meta over the last 17 years.
  • The importance of prioritizing and categorizing user feedback when launching new features.
  • How Naomi progressed into a product management role at Meta and how she added value to the company as a non-technical PM.
  • Key skills you need to be a great product leader.
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2 years ago
43 minutes 5 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Creating products that make a positive impact, with Radhika Dutt

Hear Radhika's input on:

  • How we create products that make change without unintended consequences
  • Step-by-step processes to avoid product disease
  • Focus on the who, what, when, why, and how of product design
  • How to prioritize long-term vs short-term needs
  • Inclusive visions and solving pain points in a holistic way
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2 years ago
51 minutes 7 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
The way we traditionally view careers, success, and what it means to step outside that box, with Elena Verna

Take a listen as Elena dives into:

  • The highs and lows of job interviewing in the product world
  • Finding a company that works for both you and them
  • Choosing a familiar role versus what is best for you
  • What it takes to be a successful product leader and what does that success even mean
  • How your unconventional career is a valuable service in product-led growth
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2 years ago
45 minutes 23 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Power mapping, pivoting and investing in your leadership, with Phoebe Gavin

Phoebe Gavin, Executive Director of Talent and Development for Vox.com, explores a number of key talking points, including:

  • The power of coaching and content creation in a remote leadership world.
  • Why investing in leadership skills is crucial for the success of any organization.
  • Why itโ€™s okay to pivot and respond to your audience's needs.
  • Building a strong proof of concept and why this is so crucial
  • Recognizing the influence of emotional states on the decision-making process.
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2 years ago
47 minutes 34 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Leveraging tech to power a consumer-focused approach, Laura Marino

Laura Marino, Chief Product Officer at TrueML (parent company of TrueAccord) takes us through her career journey and passion for growth stage companies and more, with key talking points including:

  • Empowering consumers through digital channels and AI technology.
  • The importance of women in product leadership.
  • Why company culture is crucial during tough periods.
  • The power of combining cultures to transform a complex tech space.
  • Why alignment on goals is crucial to avoid making trade-offs between what's good for the client versus what's good for the consumer.
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2 years ago
48 minutes 9 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Rapidly scaling your Agile product org, with Vaidas Adomauskas

Vaidas Adomauskas, then Chief Product Officer of Uncapped, now CPO at First Circle, unpacks a number of key talking points, including:

  • The best practices of Agile for different-sized orgs.
  • His practical advice on embedding platform teams into product teams.
  • The key indicators of whether youโ€™re achieving optimal results.
  • Why working in cross-functional teams is essential for customer satisfaction.
  • Critical insights on how to scale a multi-product business.
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2 years ago
49 minutes 17 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Giving people in product their time back, with Oseyi Ikuenobe

Oseyi Ikuenobe, Head of Product for Orders & Checkout Experience at Square, takes us through his journey in financial technology, discussing a number of key talking points, including:

  • Building outside the bubble and how this impacts products.
  • Taking calculated risks to build products that will last.
  • The power of meeting with sellers and hearing their stories.
  • How a pivotal part of his career development took place in Japan.
  • The importance of succession planning in product.
  • How his Mom inspired his product leadership journey!
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2 years ago
41 minutes 13 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Be empowered to run towards your goals, with Ronke Majekodunmi

Ronke Majekodunmi, Director of Product Management at Promevo, explores a number of key topics, including:

  • The power of inclusive design in product.
  • Why cultivating relationships is essential to PM success.
  • When to start asking the hard questions in a product job.
  • How diversity in cross-functional teams can help you hit product blind spots.
  • Why you shouldnโ€™t ask how many golf balls fit on a plane in a PM interviewโ€ฆ
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2 years ago
41 minutes 27 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
The pillars of product work no matter the problem, with Osnat Benari

Osnat Benari, Co-Founder of DragonsCanFly, explored a number of key topics, including:

  • Changing strategy mid-execution.
  • The power of restarting yourself in an existing career
  • Managing any product through the pillars of product management.
  • Why owning your craft makes moving between industries easy.
  • Advice for those looking to break into a product leadership role.
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3 years ago
48 minutes 35 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Building products designed for the underserved, with Nina Mohanty

Nina Mohanty, Founder of Bloom Money, takes us through what propelled her leadership journey in FinTech, with key topics including:

  • The importance of financial literacy and empowerment.
  • How payments and FinTech can impact the world.
  • The power of simply speaking to customers.
  • Working as a founder with a โ€˜product heartโ€™.
  • What success looks like as a product leader in financial FinTech
  • Thank goodness for neck pillowsโ€ฆ๐Ÿ˜…
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3 years ago
46 minutes 17 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
How inclusive design is shaping product innovation, with Prashanthi Ravanavarapu

Prashanthi Ravanavarapu, Head of Product and Customer Experiences at PayPal delves into a number of key topics, including:

  • Inclusive design in the product vision.
  • Why a product needs to act and look the same, no matter the customer.
  • Leveraging empathy and channeling it into innovative ideas.
  • How everyone in the product journey can have the biggest impact.
  • Why the best servant leaders thrive as product managers.
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3 years ago
49 minutes 59 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Everyone is part of the PLG thought process, with Vibhor Chhabra

Vibhor Chhabra, Head of Tax Products at Shopify discusses the challenges he faced getting started on his product leadership journey, and a number of key topics, including:

  • Being โ€œhumbitiousโ€ and why it matters!
  • How you can leverage problem-solving in adjacent spaces to move faster.
  • The power of asking for feedback and creating feedback loops.
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3 years ago
47 minutes 5 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Impacting customers on every single level, with Pooja Naidu & John Wirtz

Hudlโ€™s dynamic duo, Pooja Naidu, Senior Director of Product Management, and John Wirtz, Chief Product Officer, focus on a number of key topics, including:

  • Why you need to remain in a beta mindset to drive engagement.
  • The right time to bring in a new product leader.
  • Why the culture of โ€˜fail fast and earlyโ€™ is so important.
  • Understanding the pricing, positioning, and packaging of your product.
  • The power of growth through modernization.
  • Aligning outcomes and goals towards being customer-centric.
  • Why product-market fit is also for existing products.
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3 years ago
53 minutes 8 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
The power of the continuous discovery process, with Teresa Torres

Teresa Torres, internationally acclaimed Author, Speaker and Product Discovery Coach, takes us through a number of key talking points, including:

  • How PLG starts with just creating a really good product.
  • The biggest indicator of a productโ€™s success.
  • How to create customer and business value by driving outcomes.
  • The distinction between what designers and cross-functional product teams do.
  • Leveraging more diverse expertise on teams.
  • Why ProductTalk is becoming a "course-first business".
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3 years ago
49 minutes 49 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Championing diversity in product design, with Amy Lima

Amy Lima, Founder of Diversify Design, explores a number of key topics, including:

  • The origin story of Diversify Design.
  • How your insecurities can be your greatest asset in your product career.
  • Launching your own initiative as a team of one.
  • Having the courage to follow your authentic path in product.
  • Propelling product design with the power of diversity and community.
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3 years ago
39 minutes 29 seconds

For the Love of Product ๐Ÿ’™๐ŸŽ™
Here at PLA, all roads lead to product-led growth and our goal with For the Love of Product is to shine a light on those who are really living, breathing, and embodying PLG. Each episode, weโ€™ll be diving into both the passion and the practice of product leadership through thought-provoking interviews with CPOs, Founders, and Inventors.