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Enter the Grayzone
Robby Ortiz
25 episodes
2 days ago
Enter the Grayzone is where our theories and biases go to die. We come face to face with real people and have to test what we believe. Where black and white answers do more harm than good. Where Truth is as necessary as Grace and there's NO clear pathway forward. In an increasingly complex and confusing world, Christians have the opportunity to boldly engage culture with Truthful living. We also have the responsibility of following in Christ's compassionate example. Conversations related to faith, culture, gender, suicide, moral failure, autism, addiction, family trauma, and so much more.
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Enter the Grayzone is where our theories and biases go to die. We come face to face with real people and have to test what we believe. Where black and white answers do more harm than good. Where Truth is as necessary as Grace and there's NO clear pathway forward. In an increasingly complex and confusing world, Christians have the opportunity to boldly engage culture with Truthful living. We also have the responsibility of following in Christ's compassionate example. Conversations related to faith, culture, gender, suicide, moral failure, autism, addiction, family trauma, and so much more.
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Enter the Grayzone
BONUS - 7 Mountains Mandate, Charlie Kirk and Turning Point's Christian Nationalism

In this bonus episode I am joined by Dr. Matthew Boedy to discuss his book: The 7 Mountains Mandate: Exposing the Dangerous Plan to Christianize America and Destroy Democracy

Matthew and I delve into the multi-decade plan by a minority of Christian leaders to gain control and influence over key cultural and political institutions in America. Boedy provides his expertise on Turning Point USA and Charlie Kirk and their role in promoting this philosophy. We break down the dangers and risks of this particular branch of Christian Nationalism and its contrariness to the Biblical Gospel. Buckle up!

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4 days ago
55 minutes 52 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
017 - Climate Change and Christianity W/ PAUL McGHIE

Do ALL Christians think climate change is a hoax? Should they? What does care for God's creation look like in the age of conspiracy theories and dispensationalism? We GO THERE.

Paul McGhie is former Hillsong Bible College trainer, w/ his masters in Biblical Studies, and now works as a Sustainability advisor and consultant in city Infrastructure in Mebourne, Australia.

https://biologos.org/ for faith and science resources

https://www.katharinehayhoe.com/ and https://billmckibben.substack.com/ for faith friendly voices

https://www.bbcearth.com/shows/planet-earth and https://www.abc.net.au/education/digibooks/fight-for-planet-a-our-climate-change-challenge/ for some inspiration

and podcasts on climate change https://www.outrageandoptimism.org/

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1 week ago
52 minutes 33 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
016 - IMMIGRATION, Women of Welcome, and compassionate policy making W/ BRI STENSRUD

Immigration is complicated, but for Bri Stensrud, it doesn't have to be. Bri discusses the need for compassion and love for immigrants as well as safe secure borders. As the founder of Women of Welcome, Bri engages with women on a regular basis to challenge their immigration assertions and build compassionate communities of understanding.

Women of Welcome is a community dedicated to diving into the whole of scripture to understand God’s heart for the immigrant and refugee.

Women of Welcome Website

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2 weeks ago
46 minutes 11 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
015 - The MYTHS of Good Christian Parenting w/ MARISSA FRANKS BURT

Were you SPANKED for discipline as a child?

This conversation is probably for you. Robby and Melissa dive into myths that were and ARE prevalent in Christian evangelicalism related to good parenting. Alongside co-author Kelsey Kramer McGinnis, Marissa wrote The Myth of Good Christian Parenting. This good faith reading of resources and testimonies from the 'Dobson' era provides criticism and reflection that hopefully helps people deconstruct in a healthy way. We don't have to make the same mistakes nor do we have to point fingers and blame others ad abandon our faith altogether. What's a good way forward?

Pre-Order BONUSES

Link to download of the introduction and first chapter of he Myth of Good Christian Parenting: How false promises betrayed a generation of evangelical families.
Find the book on Amazon

Order from Baker for guaranteed release day delivery

Bookshop book link 


Audible link

Marissa Franks Burt (MA in Theological Studies, Columbia International University) is a novelist, editor, teacher, and cohost of the At Home with the Lectionary and In the Church Library podcasts. She lives in a small town in Washington's Snoqualmie Valley with her husband, six children, and heaps of books.

Kelsey Kramer McGinnis (PhD, University of Iowa) is a musicologist, educator, and correspondent for Christianity Today, writing on worship practices and Christian subculture. She is an adjunct professor at Grand View University in Des Moines and previously worked at the University of Iowa Center for Human Rights.The book is available for pre-order across platforms:


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1 month ago
1 hour 1 minute 13 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
014 - Confidence in God, unplanned ministry opportunities, & taking the Gospel to every moment of our day w/ AMBER ALBEE SWENSON

Amber Albee Swenson shares her journey of faith, the importance of confidence in God, and how media can be a powerful tool for ministry. She discusses her book, 'Key to Confidence,' emphasizing that true confidence comes from understanding our identity in Christ. The discussion also touches on the challenges of greed, the significance of stewardship, and the impact of small acts of kindness in our communities. Amber encourages listeners to embrace their unique callings and to trust in God's plan for their lives.

Amber's Book

Amber's Website

Amber's Podcast


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1 month ago
52 minutes 24 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
013 - "I Don't Even like Women" NATALIE RUNION and the grayzones of gender roles and leadership in the church.

In this conversation, Robby speaks with Natalie Runion, author of 'I Don't Even Like Women,' about the complexities of women's relationships within the church and with each other. Natalie does NOT hold back and calls on women to step up and take ownership of their choices and responses. They explore themes of competition, trauma, and the need for sacred sisterhood, emphasizing the importance of creating safe spaces for women to connect and grow. Natalie shares her personal journey and insights on how women can empower each other and navigate the challenges they face in ministry and beyond.


Get the Book HERE

In the episode, we mention this book by Beth Allison Barr


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1 month ago
55 minutes 12 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
012 - Euthanasia, Imago Dei, and MILES GLOETZNER's divine encounters while caring for hospice patients.

Robby and Miles Gloetzner explore the complex and sensitive topic of euthanasia and medical assistance in dying (MAID). They discuss the mission of Inhora Home, a hospice home providing free care and housing to those at the end of their lives, and how faith and compassion drive their work. The conversation delves into the dignity of life, the cultural perspectives on death, and the importance of community support during the dying process. They emphasize the need for compassion and understanding in the face of suffering, and the significance of allowing loved ones to share in the journey of dying.

Inhora Home

Wounded by Love - St Porphyrios

Robby's Patreon



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1 month ago
58 minutes 12 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
BONUS - ROBBY on Restoring failed, dangerous PASTORS

In this conversation, Robby Ortiz explores the complex issue of restoring pastors who have faced moral failures. He discusses the biblical standards for pastoral leadership, the dangers of charismatic leadership, and the need for accountability and humility within the church. Robby emphasizes that restoration should focus on community and personal growth rather than returning to positions of power. He calls for a reevaluation of how the church handles fallen leaders and advocates for a more humble approach to ministry.



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2 months ago
16 minutes 23 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
011 - Sacred Science, cosmology, and a Christian Big Bang theory, all with William West, MD

In this enlightening conversation, Robby and Dr. William West explore the intricate relationship between faith and science. They discuss how these two realms can complement each other rather than exist in opposition; emphasizing the importance of understanding divine creation through the lens of scientific discovery. Dr. West shares his insights on the Big Bang, evolution, and the nature of consciousness, while also addressing the limitations of science in providing moral guidance. The discussion culminates in a hopeful vision for the future, where science and faith work together to reveal the mysteries of existence.

William West, M.D.

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2 months ago
48 minutes 3 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
010 - Neurodivergence, NOT curing Autism and why LAURA BURGE thinks everyone should just be nice.

In this conversation, Robby and writing coach Laura Burge explore the intersection of neurodivergence and writing. Laura shares her experiences working with neurodivergent writers, discussing the unique challenges they face and the misconceptions surrounding neurodivergence. They delve into the importance of flexibility, curiosity, and compassion in both writing and understanding neurodivergent individuals. The discussion also touches on the evolving publishing industry, the impact of shame, and the need for diverse voices in storytelling.


Laura's website


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2 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 38 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
009 - Embracing LGBT+ communities using missional framework w/ BILL HENSON, the SUICIDE risk of rejection, the mistake of calling dysphoria SIN, and PARENTING when your child COMES OUT

In this conversation, Robby and Bill Henson discuss the mission of Posture Shift, a ministry dedicated to creating safe spaces for LGBTQ+ individuals within the church. They explore the importance of understanding the difference between POSTURE and POSITION in ministry, emphasizing the need for compassion and proximity in engaging marginalized communities. The discussion also addresses the challenges PARENTS face when their children COME OUT, the evolving nature of Posture Shift's curriculum, and the critical issues surrounding homelessness and vulnerability in LGBTQ+ youth. Throughout the conversation, they highlight the necessity of maintaining a loving posture while holding traditional beliefs, and the importance of building trust and understanding within families and faith communities.


https://postureshift.com/

Guiding Families Resource Guide


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3 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 36 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
008 - Leaving Elevation Church w/ GREG BASCH, the tension of church GROWTH vs HEALTH, next gen leaders, and the grief of LEAVING pastoral ministry

In this conversation, Robby and Greg explore the complexities of leadership within the church, discussing the balance between spiritual reliance and effective leadership, the challenges of measuring success, and the emotional journey of leaving a church. They also delve into the importance of leadership development, the shift from growth to fruitfulness, and the unique challenges faced by multi-site churches. Young leaders are highlighted as a source of hope, learning from past mistakes and seeking authenticity in their leadership.


https://www.gregbasch.com/



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3 months ago
57 minutes 18 seconds

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007 - NIRUP ALPHONSE calls on Christians to have greater IMAGINATIONS, higher RESPONSIBILITY for their fellow Christians, uncovering IDOLS in their lives, and the need for pastors to know their limits

In this conversation, Pastor Nirup Alphonse shares his journey from growing up in a faith-filled family to leading a vibrant church in Denver. He emphasizes the importance of personal responsibility in faith, the role of community in healing CHURCH HURT, and the necessity of embracing suffering as part of the Christian experience. Nirup challenges the consumeristic tendencies in modern church culture and advocates for a consecrated life that reflects Christ's teachings. He expresses hope for the younger generations and their potential to bring revival, while also highlighting the need for humility and accountability in pastoral leadership.

Lifegate Church Denver

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4 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 46 seconds

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006 - Redeeming the times and engaging our 'Babylon w/ STEPHEN O. PRESLEY; hope for The Church, and the need for deeper discipleship

In this conversation, Robby and Stephen Presley explore the themes of cultural sanctification, the relationship between church and state, and how Christians can engage with a society that is increasingly secular. They discuss the importance of active citizenship, the role of discipleship in a changing world, and the need for cooperation among different Christian denominations. Stephen emphasizes the significance of hope and the Bible in shaping the church's mission and identity, while also addressing the challenges posed by Christian nationalism and cultural loss.


Buy Cultural Sanctification HERE

https://stephenpresley.com/

The Letter to Diognetus

#Cultural #Sanctification #ChurchandState #EarlyChurch #ChristianNationalism #Discipleship

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4 months ago
50 minutes 7 seconds

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005 - Exploring the artistic process, AI art, masculine stereotypes and rites of passage w/ master penman JAKE WEIDMANN

In this episode we enter the grayzone and ask about the difference between art created for God's glory versus our own gratification. We break down the artistic process and the act of worship that artistic creation really is. We also explore the confining stereotypes of masculinity in relation to artistic expression and even talk about rites of passage.

My guest, Jake Weidmann is a professional artist and certified as one of nine Master Penman in the world. Jake is self-taught in each of his disciplines (calligraphy, painting, drawing, woodworking, and engraving).His new book, Old Soul, New Creation features ten of Jake's creations, along with in-progress photographs and stories of the artistic and spiritual struggle behind each. Thisstunning book is ultimately a story of God's goodness, His faithfulness, and His loving calling--all of which you can experience when you embrace the talentsGod gives you.


Old Soul, New Creation


Website:         https://www.jakeweidmann.com/

                        https://www.artistandmasterpenman.com/

Facebook:       https://www.facebook.com/jakeweidmann

Instagram:      https://www.instagram.com/jakeweidmann

YouTube:        https://www.youtube.com/@JakeWeidmannArtist

Podcast:          https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/made-to-last/id1793476400

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5 months ago
1 hour 2 minutes 5 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
BOUNS - Origins of PRIDE MONTH w/ PIETER L. VALK. Biblical allyship, use of pronouns, and avoiding the wounds of The Closet.

In this conversation, Robby and Pieter discuss the significance of Pride Month, the historical context of the church's response to LGBTQ+ individuals, and how Christians can engage compassionately and biblically with the LGBTQ+ community. They explore the complexities of language, identity, and allyship, emphasizing the need for churches to create welcoming spaces for LGBTQ+ individuals while maintaining biblical truths.

The Engel Scale

Equip Your Community

Pieter's website

Robby's Website

#Pride Month #LGBTQ+ #Christian #allyship #churchhistory #identity #language



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5 months ago
40 minutes 50 seconds

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004 - Abortion and the Pro-abundant life w/ ROLAND C. WARREN. The compromise of The Church and misconceptions.

TRIGGER WARNING - this episode does discuss abortion and unexpected pregnancy. There are NO graphic details, however out of respect and sensitivity I am flagging the topic for your discretion.


A graduate of Princeton University and the Wharton School of Business at the University of Pennsylvania, Roland is an inspirational servant leader with a heart for Christ and a mind for business. After 20 years in the corporate world (with IBM, Pepsi, and Goldman Sachs), Roland spent 11 years as president of National Fatherhood Initiative before joining Care Net in 2012 as president and CEO.


Roland's Website

His Latest Book

Care Net

ROLAND & Yvette's Story

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5 months ago
51 minutes 11 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
BONUS - SALLY TAYLOR Talks breast CANCER journey, pressure to perform as a PASTOR during illness, and how we respond when WE DON'T GET supernatural HEALING.

In this conversation, Robby and Sally Taylor explore the complexities of faith, suffering, and healing through Sally's personal journey with cancer. They discuss the challenges of maintaining faith during illness, the impact of public life on personal struggles, and the importance of vulnerability in relationships. Sally shares her insights on how suffering can lead to a deeper understanding of God's goodness and the lessons learned through her experiences. The conversation emphasizes the need for honest communication (especially with children) and offers encouragement for those facing difficult health challenges.

Sally's Discipleship Course

Newsoul Church

#faith #cancer #healing #suffering #discipleship #publiclife #encouragement #marriage #parenting






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5 months ago
48 minutes 27 seconds

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003 - Abiding in God w/ pastor WALTER HILL, rediscovering the joy of being a new Christian, and the infiltration of media into our thought lives.

Don't you wish you could be joyful about life just as much as when you were first saved? You're not alone! We discuss this and many related topics with today's guest.

Walter Hill is a bi-vocational pastor who also serves as a Hospice Chaplain. He is musician and songwriter, veteran of the US Navy, and an author. In his book, AMAZED AGAIN he tells stories of his over 25 years of ministry experience navigating the trials and triumphs of faith. Through his thoughtful storytelling, Walter invites readers to rediscover hope, deepen their faith and embrace the abundant life Christ offers.

Connect with Walt: walterhill.net

Buy the book: https://www.amazon.com/Amazed-Again-Reclaiming-Christs-Fading/dp/1612063365




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5 months ago
47 minutes 26 seconds

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002 - TABOO CHURCH topics w/ MIKE NOVOTNY; Abuse, young blank-slate Christians, and humility in growing as a pastor.

In this conversation we hear about the need for pastors to be humble, life-long learners, to talk about taboo issue in church, and the hope we see in the next generation of Jesus seekers.

Pastor Mike Novotny has served God’s people in full-time ministry since 2007 as a pastor in Madison and now Appleton, Wisconsin. He also serves as a host and speaker for the Time of Grace television program and contributes to the written resources of Time of Grace Ministry. Pastor Mike is married to Kim and has two daughters.Mike's book: https://www.amazon.com/Taboo-Topics-Christians-Should-Talking/dp/1957616555

Hear more from Mike: https://timeofgrace.org/


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6 months ago
46 minutes 47 seconds

Enter the Grayzone
Enter the Grayzone is where our theories and biases go to die. We come face to face with real people and have to test what we believe. Where black and white answers do more harm than good. Where Truth is as necessary as Grace and there's NO clear pathway forward. In an increasingly complex and confusing world, Christians have the opportunity to boldly engage culture with Truthful living. We also have the responsibility of following in Christ's compassionate example. Conversations related to faith, culture, gender, suicide, moral failure, autism, addiction, family trauma, and so much more.