
In this conversation, Robby and Greg explore the complexities of leadership within the church, discussing the balance between spiritual reliance and effective leadership, the challenges of measuring success, and the emotional journey of leaving a church. They also delve into the importance of leadership development, the shift from growth to fruitfulness, and the unique challenges faced by multi-site churches. Young leaders are highlighted as a source of hope, learning from past mistakes and seeking authenticity in their leadership.