In this conversation, Jason Buccheri hosts Michael Stevenson and Mark Pearmain to discuss the evolving landscape of education, focusing on the concept of human flourishing. They explore the importance of redefining educational purposes beyond mere employment, emphasizing the need for a holistic approach that includes emotional, ethical, and social competencies. The discussion also highlights the role of collective efforts in education, the integration of diverse worldviews, and the impact of AI on future learning environments. The speakers share insights on how education systems can adapt to better prepare students for a rapidly changing world, advocating for a collaborative and inclusive approach to learning.

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[00:00:00] Cold Open – What If Education Isn’t About Productivity?
[00:00:47] Host Intro – AI, Automation & The Meaning Of Education
[00:01:41] Theme Overview – Reimagining Purpose & Human Flourishing
[00:03:10] Summit Mention – Canadian Education Leadership Summit
[00:03:58] Guest Check-In – London And Surrey, BC
[00:04:36] Michael Stevenson – OECD Role And Vision
[00:05:28] Mark Pearmain – Surrey School District Overview
[00:07:20] Personal Path – Why Education?
[00:07:25] Michael Stevenson – From BBC To OECD And The Ancient-Future Lens
[00:09:49] Mark Pearmain – Formative Teachers And Family Influence
[00:12:35] Shifts In Education – Post-COVID Perspective & BC’s Competency Curriculum
[00:16:50] Global Context – Groundswell For Change And Learning As A Way Of Being
[00:19:35] Collaboration – OECD And BC Connection At Whistler
[00:23:35] Defining Human Flourishing – Happiness, Meaning, Relationships & Accomplishment
[00:25:39] Critique – Education For Employment Vs. Education For Flourishing
[00:28:39] Balancing Basics – Foundational Skills Before Flourishing
[00:30:40] Individual And Collective Flourishing – Educating Beyond The Self
[00:34:58] Schools As Communities – Everyone’s Role In Student Success
[00:37:23] Student Voice – Agency In Learning And AI Ethics
[00:39:35] Four Worldviews – Indigenous, Pre-Modern, Modern, Post-Modern
[00:43:08] Truth & Reconciliation – Embedding Indigenous Perspectives In BC Education
[00:45:29] Healing & Acknowledgment – Intergenerational Trauma And Renewal
[00:48:46] Five Core Competencies – Ethical Competence And Acting In The World
[00:51:31] Adaptive Problem-Solving And Meaning-Making
[01:05:00] The Role Of AI – Harnessing Technology Without Losing Agency
[01:21:58] Practical Advice – Starting Small And Sustaining Change
[01:27:29] Reflections – The Humanistic Thread Of Education

In this week’s episode of Education Matters, storyteller and advertising veteran Neal Foard explores story-first leadership—how small, consistent acts of care shape culture faster than any memo. Drawing on a Bay Area upbringing and a career helping brands explain ideas clearly, Neal shows how leaders can use stories to set tone, build trust, and make values visible in daily routines. He contrasts classroom joy with test obsession, unpacks “love-letter” messaging that helps people feel seen, and makes the case for arts and performance as courage builders. Practical takeaways include prompts for staff meetings, ways to reinforce fairness, and habits that strengthen belonging.

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[00:00:00] Opening: Kindness as Daily Practice[00:00:49] Guest Introduction: Neal Foard[00:03:00] Where Is Neal Today[00:03:29] Bay Area Upbringing[00:04:26] Context of the Late 60s[00:06:54] School Then vs. Now[00:07:59] Earliest Memory: Reading & Puppets[00:08:48] Spanish at Five & Language Affinity[00:09:29] Free-Range Childhood Adventures[00:10:54] Hare Krishna Parade Memory[00:13:07] Shift to Helicopter Parenting[00:14:42] Early Love of History[00:18:43] Family Storytellers & SNL Reenactments[00:19:59] Punk Band & the Performance Bug[00:20:50] College Plays for Courage[00:23:13] Showbiz Light: Explaining Ideas[00:26:28] ‘Torches to Be Lit’ & Ad Fat[00:27:36] Accidental Entry into Advertising[00:31:16] Lessons: Initiative & Partners[00:33:04] Human Nature in Ads[00:34:38] Love-Letter Advertising[00:47:24] Pocket Acts of Kindness[00:49:33] Leaders Set Tone with Stories[00:51:50] Tire Shop Parable: Two Stories[00:57:16] Media Diet for Students[00:58:16] Advice to Young Men[01:04:53] If I Ran Schools[01:07:58] Media Recommendations[01:11:25] Closing & Land Acknowledgement

In this engaging conversation, Chris Kennedy, a seasoned educator and superintendent, shares his insights on the evolving landscape of education, the impact of AI, and the importance of community and leadership in schools. He reflects on his upbringing in a family of educators, the inspiring teachers he has encountered, and the need for innovative approaches in classrooms. Chris emphasizes the significance of engaging parents, the role of school leadership, and the necessity of equity in access to educational tools. He also discusses the future of education, advocating for a balance between technology and human connection, and shares his vision for a more inclusive and effective educational system.

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[00:00:00] Opening Reflection on AI[00:00:43] Guest Introduction: Chris Kennedy[00:03:07] Where He’s Calling From (West Vancouver; Sḵwx̱wú7mesh Nation)[00:04:10] Early Life in Richmond; First Teaching Job[00:04:31] Teaching with His Mom; Meeting His Wife[00:07:38] Childhood Interests: Geography & Politic0s[00:09:22] Growing Up Then vs Now[00:10:22] Early Reading Challenges & Advocacy[00:12:17] Inspiring Teaching Examples[00:14:28] What Great Classrooms Look Like[00:15:34] Teachers I Admire[00:16:59] Why Principals Matter[00:18:48] Working With Parents (Updating Mindsets)[00:21:25] Opening Classrooms: Portfolios & Parent Ed[00:23:30] Becoming a Young Superintendent[00:26:43] Age Diversity in Leadership[00:32:52] Equity & Access With AI[00:35:29] Rethinking Assessment; Co-Creating With AI[00:38:37] Staff Support & AI Leads[00:41:11] Diffusion vs Mandates[00:42:31] People Provide Inspiration (Not AI)[00:45:27] Assessment, Ranking & Sorting[00:47:46] 50-Year Futures: Right vs Wrong Paths[00:49:34] Magic Wand: AI + Physical Literacy; Literacy/Numeracy; All Means All[00:51:18] Media Recommendations & Longevity Theme[00:53:14] Outro & Credits

In this deeply reflective episode of The Education Matters Podcast, Dr. Pius Ryan—Superintendent of Schools in North Vancouver—offers a sweeping yet grounded vision of education. Tracing a path from his early days in Newfoundland to his current leadership in British Columbia, he brings both heart and systems thinking to bear on a central question: what kind of education is needed for a good life in a changing world? He discusses designing classrooms as communities rather than silos; treating education as relationship—with self, others, the Earth, and modern technology; navigating the tension between structure and creativity in systems leadership; and advancing a national conversation about the purpose and ends of public schooling. He also considers what AI, synthetic biology, and ecological collapse demand of educators today. The episode resists quick fixes, focusing instead on values, clarity, and the long arc of public education in Canada.

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In this conversation, Brendan Browne, the Director of Education at the Toronto Catholic District School Board, shares insights from his extensive career in education. He discusses his upbringing, the impact of technology on childhood, and the importance of philosophy in education. Brendan emphasizes the significance of creating inspiring classrooms where students feel loved and safe, the role of trust in leadership, and the challenges of managing large school districts. He also highlights innovative initiatives in special education and his vision for the future of education, focusing on critical thinking and independence.

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In this weeks podcast, join us as we dive into the world of BC trustees with Tracy Loffler, the President of the BC School Trustees Association. Tracy shares her journey from a school trustee to leading an organization that advocates for public education across British Columbia. Discover her experiences, the challenges she faces, and her vision for creating inclusive and supportive learning environments across the province's 60 school boards. Whether you're an educator, parent, or simply passionate about education, this episode offers valuable perspectives on the future of learning and the importance of community-driven advocacy.

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In this podcast episode, Camillo Cipriano, the Director of Education and Secretary-Treasurer for the Niagara Catholic District School Board, shares insights into his role and personal journey. He reflects on his upbringing in Milton, Ontario, and how his childhood experiences of imaginative play and exploration shaped his problem-solving skills. Camillo discusses the challenges and opportunities in modern education, emphasizing the importance of allowing children to fail and learn from their mistakes. He highlights the need for a balance between technology and traditional learning methods, advocating for environments where children can rely on their creativity and resilience.

Camillo also touches on the evolving role of educators and the importance of building trust within the education system. He shares his thoughts on the impact of AI in education, expressing both excitement and caution about its integration. Camillo envisions a future where AI supports personalized learning while maintaining the essential human connection between teachers and students.

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[00:00:00] Sponsor Message – Education Perfect

[00:01:17] Welcome and Guest Introduction

[00:03:31] Camillo’s Current Role and Background

[00:04:59] Growing Up in Milton and Childhood Reflections

[00:07:30] Imagination, Risk, and Childhood Freedom

[00:09:28] Changing Parental Perspectives Over Generations

[00:11:49] Overprotection vs Underprotection in Modern Parenting

[00:13:41] Street Hockey and the Loss of Unstructured Play

[00:15:49] Importance of Resilience Through Play

[00:17:30] Love of Math and Maps

[00:19:14] University Studies and Early Career in Business

[00:21:19] Finding a Calling in Education

[00:23:07] First Classroom Experience

[00:24:25] Inspirational Stories from Former Students

[00:28:02] Planting Seeds: The Long-Term Impact of Education

[00:30:25] Discipline as a Teaching Tool

[00:32:24] The Purpose of School Discipline

[00:34:33] What Makes a Great Classroom

[00:36:44] What Makes a Great School Leader

[00:43:39] The Principal as a Champion of Learning

[00:45:32] Helping Parents Understand Today’s Classrooms

[00:47:45] Inviting Parents into the Classroom

[00:50:08] Relationships Between Schools and Families

[00:52:08] Misunderstanding Complexity in Classrooms

[00:54:28] AI in Education: Early Stages of Adoption

[00:56:56] The Potential of AI to Personalize Learning

[00:58:23] Concerns About Overreliance on Technology

[01:00:19] AI and the Importance of Foundational Skills

[01:01:51] AI and the Need to Preserve Writing and Thinking

[01:03:27] Camillo’s Vision for Education in 50 Years

[01:05:14] If Camillo Had a Magic Wand: Building Trust

[01:07:19] Media Recommendations and Final Thoughts

In this engaging conversation, Sunil discusses his journey from a traditional math teacher to an advocate for a more humanistic approach to mathematics education. He emphasizes the importance of storytelling, curiosity, and play in learning, and how these elements can transform the way mathematics is taught. Sunil also highlights the need to reintroduce the history of mathematics and its connection to the humanities, arguing that math education should prioritize human flourishing. He shares insights from his experiences and introduces the Global Math Summit, aimed at fostering a collaborative environment for educators to reimagine math instruction.

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[00:00:00] Choosing a New North Star for Mathematics[00:00:45] Episode Introduction and Guest Overview[00:03:04] Sunil Joins from Pickering, Ontario[00:04:25] Growing Up: From Tasmania to North York[00:06:10] Leaving Teaching at the Peak[00:07:55] Finding Voice Through Storytelling[00:08:20] The Magic of Free Childhood Play[00:10:32] A 9-Year-Old’s Love Affair with a Math Textbook[00:13:05] The Mystery and Romance of Mathematics[00:15:05] Curiosity as a Measure of Student Well-Being[00:16:35] Math for Human Flourishing[00:18:36] Rediscovering the Roots of Math in the Humanities[00:20:43] The False Fluency of High Marks in Math[00:22:08] What a Flourishing Math Classroom Looks Like[00:24:12] Wonder, Curiosity, and Student Voice[00:26:12] The Hidden History of Math Education[00:28:39] Losing Wisdom and the Boring Curriculum Trap[00:30:49] Fluency Reimagined: Adding Historic and Contemporary[00:32:59] Jodie Foster’s French and the True Meaning of Fluency[00:33:41] Rethinking the Math Credentials Debate[00:36:04] Mutual Learning and Honesty in the Classroom[00:38:26] Redefining Play in Mathematics[00:40:50] The Etymology of “School” and “Silly”[00:42:21] Mental Health and Mathematical Wellness[00:44:19] Curiosity as a Proxy for Mental Health[00:46:44] The Spirituality of Mathematics[00:47:33] The Story of Sophie Germain[00:52:21] Humanizing Math Through Storytelling[00:53:47] Discovering the History of Zero[00:57:04] Negative Numbers and the Power of Early Conceptual Play[00:58:39] Preventing the Collapse of Mathematical Understanding[01:00:00] Introducing the Global Math Summit in Sardinia[01:03:15] Pietro Cataldi and Teaching Math in Italian[01:05:03] Changing the Vector of Mathematics[01:06:23] A New North Star for Math Education[01:07:10] Media Recommendations from Sunil Singh[01:09:00] Closing Reflections and Gratitude

In this episode, David DeSantis, the Director of Education for the Algonquin Lakeshore Catholic School Board, shares his journey from growing up in an Italian immigrant family in Hamilton, Ontario, to becoming a director of education in Ontario, Canada. He discusses the importance of music in education, the challenges faced by new teachers, and the role of mentorship in his career. David emphasizes the need for mental health support in schools, the significance of early childhood education, and the successful initiatives implemented in his school board, particularly in literacy education. He concludes with a hopeful vision for the future of education, focusing on empathy and compassion.

This episode is brought to you by ⁠⁠Education Perfect⁠⁠, a complete teaching and learning toolkit built to support Canadian classrooms. Education Perfect empowers educators to track progress, personalize learning, and support purposeful practice. Its tools are flexible and designed to help Canadian teachers amplify their impact in the classroom. See for yourself and book a free demo today at ⁠⁠educationperfect.com⁠⁠.

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[00:00:00] Sponsor Message – Education Perfect
[00:01:22] Introduction to David DeSantis
[00:03:46] David's Current Role and Board Overview
[00:04:55] Family Background and Immigration Story
[00:07:09] Growing Up in Hamilton in the 1980s
[00:09:10] Childhood Play and Street Hockey
[00:11:53] Early School Experiences and Academic Turnaround
[00:13:36] Discovery of Music and Its Impact
[00:15:12] Music Education and Instrument Choice
[00:17:24] Factory Work vs. Academic Aspirations
[00:19:26] University Decisions and Career Misalignment
[00:22:01] Turning Down a Music Scholarship
[00:24:45] Entering Teaching and Early Challenges
[00:26:37] Overcoming First-Year Teaching Struggles
[00:28:35] Path to Administration and Mentorship
[00:33:18] Reevaluating Elementary vs. Secondary
[00:36:10] Power of Kindergarten and Early Education
[00:39:13] The Profound Responsibility of Educators
[00:41:39] The House Analogy – Elementary vs. Secondary
[00:43:51] Parental Involvement in Elementary School
[00:47:52] Major Challenges in Ontario Education
[00:53:23] Reaching Every Reader Literacy Initiative
[00:56:06] Hope for the Future of Education
[00:57:49] Media Recommendation – The Bridge Podcast
[00:59:00] Closing Remarks and Credits

In this episode of the Education Matters podcast, we explore the evolving role of education in Canada, particularly focusing on the integration of artificial intelligence (AI) in schools. We discuss  the importance of AI literacy, equity of access, and the challenges and opportunities AI presents in the educational landscape. Dean Shareski and Anna Villalta share their insights on how AI can be used as a tool to enhance learning, while also addressing the ethical considerations and potential risks involved. They emphasize the need for a thoughtful approach to AI, advocating for a balance between innovation and caution. The conversation also touches on the unique aspects of the Canadian education system, including regional differences (especially in Quebec) and the importance of national conversations in shaping the future of education.

This episode is brought to you by ⁠CASSA (the Canadian Association of School System Administrators)⁠. CASSA unites school superintendents and system leaders from coast to coast to tackle Canada’s biggest public-education challenges, with a sharp focus on equity, student success, and collaboration. Learn more at ⁠cassa-acgcs.ca⁠.

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[00:00:00] Sponsor Message – CASSA the Canadian Association of School System Administrators
[00:00:41] Opening Reflections – Champions of Possibility in Education
[00:01:26] Episode Overview – Exploring Canadian Identity and AI in Education
[00:03:14] Guest Introductions – Dean Shareski and Anna Villalta
[00:04:52] Keynote Preview – What to Expect from Dean at CASSA
[00:07:02] Canadian Identity in Education – Reflections and Hockey Metaphors
[00:09:24] Cohort Work Across Canada – Learning About AI in Districts
[00:11:40] AI in Report Cards – Early Applications and Guiding Teachers
[00:13:43] Anna’s Perspective – AI Use Among Students and Regional Differences
[00:15:53] Who Leads AI in Schools – System-Level Challenges and Missteps
[00:17:40] Literacy Before Tools – Elevating AI Understanding Across Roles
[00:19:40] AI and Pedagogy – Challenges and Opportunities for Educators
[00:23:55] Critical Thinking and Design – What AI Can’t Replace
[00:26:02] Healthy Tension – Embracing Debate and Shared Values
[00:28:02] System Transformation – Learning from Other Provinces
[00:30:12] The Future of AI – Hopes for Humanity and Classroom Innovation
[00:36:12] Barriers to Innovation – Budget Cuts and Equity in Quebec
[00:38:34] Anna’s Role in CASSA – Leadership and National Collaboration
[00:43:11] What Makes Quebec Unique – Structure, Culture, and Language
[00:47:15] Multiculturalism and Identity – A National Ongoing Project
[00:51:24] Competency-Based Education – Progress and Roadblocks
[00:53:20] Inspiring Initiatives – Inclusive STEAM Partnerships
[00:58:29] If I Had a Magic Wand – A Vision for Quebec’s Future
[01:01:15] The True Cost of Cuts – Long-Term Impacts on Society
[01:03:27] Looking Ahead to CASSA – What Anna and Dean are Excited About

In this episode of the Education Matters podcast, Reg Klassen, the executive director of the Canadian Association of School System Administrators (CASA), shares his journey from a challenging childhood in Saskatchewan to a successful career in education. He discusses the importance of building relationships in education, the impact of teachers on students, and the need for parental involvement in their children's education. Reg reflects on his own struggles in school, the challenges he faced as a teacher, and the inspiring stories of students who overcame adversity. He emphasizes the human aspect of teaching and the importance of understanding the complexities of the classroom environment. In this conversation, Jason Buccheri and Reg Klassen discuss the critical themes surrounding education in Canada, including the importance of parental involvement, the challenges of implementing sustainable changes in school systems, and the mission of CASSA to promote equity and excellence in education. They explore the need for better preparation of educators to face future challenges, the unique aspects of Canadian education, and the vision for a more equitable educational landscape. The discussion emphasizes the importance of legacy in education and the need for a collective will to improve the system.

This episode is brought to you by CASSA (the Canadian Association of School System Administrators). CASSA unites school superintendents and system leaders from coast to coast to tackle Canada’s biggest public-education challenges, with a sharp focus on equity, student success, and collaboration. Learn more at cassa-acgcs.ca.

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• [00:00:00] Sponsor Message – CASSA(Canadian Association of School System Administrators)

• [00:00:41] School-Day Scheduling Assumptions

• [00:01:30] Guest Introduction – Reg Klassen

• [00:02:06] Interview Kickoff With Reg Klassen

• [00:02:44] Safeguarding Democracy Through Education

• [00:05:13] Reg’s Reflections On Attending CASSA Events

• [00:06:40] Being The Eldest Of Six: Family Background

• [00:08:25] Early Schooling Experiences

• [00:10:14] Childhood Imagination Anecdote

• [00:12:40] Value Of Narrative In Education

• [00:13:04] Confidence In Public Speaking As A Student

• [00:14:56] Memory, Detail, And Documentation

• [00:16:06] Reg’s Theological Education Journey

• [00:18:05] Most Inspiring Moment In Education

• [00:19:59] Family Impact On Educational Practice

• [00:21:46] Building And Nurturing Relationships

• [00:24:11] Staying Connected After Retirement

• [00:32:19] Research On Math Acceleration Timing

• [00:34:51] CASSA’s Role & Reg’s Facilitation Work

• [00:36:04] Ensuring Equity In Educational Opportunities

• [00:39:11] Challenges On CASSA’s Board

• [00:41:12] Calls For Reform In Teacher Training

• [00:45:38] Parental Attitudes Toward Education Reform

• [00:47:38] Critique Of Test-Focused Education

• [00:49:56] Vision For Early Childhood Investment

• [00:55:33] Celebrating Perseverance In Education

• [00:55:58] Launch Of “Legacy” Magazine

• [00:57:42] CASSA Conference Preview

• [00:57:56] Encouragement To Attend CASSA Conference

  [00:58:24] Closing Credits & Acknowledgements

  
  

In this conversation, Pino Buffone shares his journey from being a child of Italian immigrants to becoming the Director of Education at the Ottawa Carleton District School Board. He reflects on his upbringing in a bilingual household, the importance of education instilled by his parents, and his experiences navigating the education system as a multilingual learner. Pino discusses the challenges of literacy, the value of cultural exchange in education, and his commitment to fostering international partnerships to enhance educational opportunities for students. In this conversation, Pino Buffone discusses the importance of equity in education, emphasizing the need for equitable access, experience, and outcomes for all students.

This episode is brought to you by ⁠Education Perfect⁠, a complete teaching and learning toolkit built to support Canadian classrooms. Education Perfect empowers educators to track progress, personalize learning, and support purposeful practice. Its tools are flexible and designed to help Canadian teachers amplify their impact in the classroom. See for yourself and book a free demo today at ⁠educationperfect.com⁠.

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[00:00:00] Sponsor Message – Education Perfect
[00:01:11] Introduction to Pino Buffone
[00:03:30] Pino’s Current Role and Background
[00:05:00] Returning to the District as Director
[00:06:55] Italian-Canadian Upbringing
[00:08:24] Resilience and Resourcefulness from Family
[00:09:52] Childhood and Cultural Integration
[00:11:37] Early Love for Languages and Internationalization
[00:12:35] Discovering Father’s Illiteracy
[00:14:02] Reflections on Jacques Demers and Literacy
[00:16:07] Immigrant Housing and Literacy's Impact on Perspective
[00:17:17] Cultural Nights and Celebrating Newcomer Talents
[00:18:28] Shaping Educational Approaches for Multilingual Learners
[00:19:43] Choosing Teaching Over Family Trade
[00:21:35] Health Canada and Diplomatic Career Considerations
[00:22:56] Last-Minute Acceptance to McGill Teachers College
[00:24:01] Para-diplomacy and International Education
[00:25:13] Global Partnerships: China and France
[00:27:14] Future Partnerships and Environmental Learning
[00:28:28] Education as a Global Shared Endeavor
[00:29:36] Why International Exchanges Matter
[00:30:34] Writing About Equity and AI Reflections
[00:32:23] Equity of Access, Experience, and Outcomes
[00:34:47] Elementary and Secondary Pathways
[00:37:10] Redesigning Programs to Foster Equity
[00:38:16] From Policy to Procedure: Practical Equity
[00:39:22] Subtle Systemic Barriers in Practice
[00:40:28] Embedding Equity into Daily Practice
[00:41:26] Formal and Informal Professional Learning Networks
[00:42:54] Managing PLNs Amidst Teacher Shortages
[00:43:52] Holistic Learning Beyond Curriculum
[00:44:59] Balancing Urgency with Systemic Change
[00:46:13] Integrative Thinking and Emerging Technologies
[00:47:16] Future of the Flipped Classroom
[00:48:38] Industry Partnerships and Student Engagement
[00:49:42] Using Real-World Tools in Classrooms
[00:50:40] Letting Students Design Their Learning
[00:51:50] Restructuring Graduation Credit Models
[00:53:25] More Electives, Fewer Compulsories
[00:54:38] School Choice Based on Student Interest
[00:56:16] Hybrid Learning and Industry Integration
[00:57:13] Media Recommendations: Sacred Economics and The Black Crowes
[00:58:57] Closing Credits and Acknowledgments

In this episode of the Education Matters podcast, host Jason Buccheri speaks with Doug Roberts, founder and CEO of the Institute for Education Innovation. They discuss Doug's background, his work with school superintendents, and the importance of innovation in public education. Doug shares personal anecdotes from his upbringing in Northport, New York, and reflects on the significance of safe spaces for children. He emphasizes the need for equitable opportunities in education and highlights inspiring moments he has witnessed in K-12 education. The conversation concludes with insights into the qualities that make effective district leaders. In this conversation, Jason Buccheri and Doug Roberts explore the evolving role of superintendents, the public's perception of education, and the pressing issue of inequity within the education system. They discuss the importance of building relationships in education, the challenges faced by public schools, and the founding of the Institute for Educational Innovation (IEI) to bridge gaps between educators and ed-tech entrepreneurs. The conversation culminates in a vision for the future of education, emphasizing the need for operational efficiency and equitable funding while maintaining the core values of personal engagement and support for students.

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[00:00:00] Principal Flipping the Mattress[00:00:45] Episode Introduction and Guest Overview[00:03:04] Doug Joins the Show from Northport, NY[00:04:24] Growing Up and Returning to His Hometow[00:05:58] Reflections on Community and Diversity[00:08:03] Childhood Play and Independence[00:09:31] What Doug Wishes Kids Had Today[00:12:09] Public Education’s Role in Equity[00:14:26] Early School Memories and the Arts[00:15:42] High School and College Influences[00:16:32] Learning to Write and Study History[00:18:31] Understanding Multiple Perspectives[00:20:47] Graduate School at Harvard and Educational Philosophy[00:21:29] Most Inspiring Moments in K–12[00:24:41] The Principal Who Went to Wake Up a Student[00:27:10] Gaining Back Accreditation in Kansas City[00:30:30] Frustration with School Board Politics[00:32:14] Role and Potential of School Boards[00:34:32] Leadership Qualities Doug Respects[00:36:50] Shifting Perceptions of Superintendents[00:39:12] Culture, Community, and Walking the Halls[00:39:40] What the Public Should Understand[00:41:40] Hardships of Educational Leadership[00:44:00] Brain Drain in the Public System[00:45:38] The Biggest Challenge: Inequity[00:47:40] Funding Disparities and Their Impacts[00:49:48] Defining the Narrative of Education[00:51:52] Why Doug Founded IEI[00:54:19] Building a Better Connection Between EdTech and Educators[00:55:57] Structuring Events That Build Trust[00:58:08] Success of the IEI Format[01:00:21] Focusing on Leadership Development[01:02:30] Advice for Startup Founders[01:06:10] What Education Should Look Like in 50 Years[01:08:36] Operational Efficiency in the Future[01:09:46] Media Recommendations[01:11:45] Transparency and Social Media Strategy[01:12:54] Post-Election Perspective on Federal Changes[01:15:20] Funding and Local Budget Realities[01:17:21] Opportunities Amidst the Turmoil[01:18:58] AI’s Role in Flat Organizational Structures[01:21:19] Final Advice for District Leaders

In this conversation, Mark Daly shares his journey from aspiring jazz musician to a prominent figure in AI at Western University. He discusses the importance of literature and diverse learning experiences in shaping his perspective. Mark reflects on philosophical insights from Dan Dennett, emphasizing the need for a careful approach to AI and its implications for society. He highlights the urgency of understanding AI's rapid evolution and the importance of early education in this field.

This episode is brought to you by ⁠Education Perfect⁠, a complete teaching and learning toolkit built to support Canadian classrooms. Education Perfect empowers educators to track progress, personalize learning, and support purposeful practice. Its tools are flexible and designed to help Canadian teachers amplify their impact in the classroom. See for yourself and book a free demo today at ⁠educationperfect.com⁠.

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[00:00:00] Sponsor Message: Education Perfect

[00:00:36] Philosophical Reflection: “It Thinks”

[00:01:10] Introducing the Guest and Initial Reflections

[00:03:35] Mark Daley Joins the Podcast

[00:05:07] Daley’s Academic and Executive Roles

[00:06:49] Early Life and Music School Pivot

[00:07:29] Childhood Curiosity and Love of Reading

[00:08:36] Learning Interests and Interdisciplinary Thinking

[00:10:09] Educational Regrets and Life Philosophy

[00:11:29] Most Beautiful Recent Idea: Dan Dennett

[00:13:49] Personal Correspondence with Dan Dennett

[00:14:40] AI Personhood and the Intentional Stance

[00:16:32] Public Understanding and Urgency of AI

[00:18:07] GPT-3 as a Paradigm Shift in AI

[00:20:08] Basics of AI and the Need to Interact

[00:21:52] Why AI Must Be Studied in Schools

[00:22:02] Teaching Values Through AI Use

[00:23:27] AI as a Tool for Learning vs. Outsourcing

[00:23:55] A Vision for Utopian AI Governance

[00:25:40] Superintelligence and Human Meaning

[00:27:52] Alignment Problem and Philosophical Limits

[00:29:40] Superintelligence, Game Theory, and Nash Equilibrium

[00:31:18] Rebutting the Paperclip Maximizer

[00:32:57] Cognitive Agency and AI Reflection

[00:33:49] Societal Impacts of AI Deployment

[00:35:40] The Inevitability of Open-Source AI

[00:36:58] Everyday Objects as AI Interfaces

[00:38:32] Global Governance and AI Challenges

[00:38:49] Education as Preparation for Meaningful Life

[00:40:59] Universities as Humanistic Learning Hubs

[00:42:12] Ubiquitous Intelligence and Social Connection

[00:43:26] The Medium is the Message and Cognitive Offloading

[00:45:33] Socrates 2.0 and The Choice to Learn

[00:47:44] Designing an AI Course Rooted in Values

[00:49:26] Risks of Hyper-Specialization in the AI Era

[00:50:52] Back to Bloom: Personalized Learning for All

[00:53:00] Reimagining the Classroom Experience

[00:55:01] Soft Skills as the Future of Education

[00:55:18] Educator Roles and AI in Daily Operations

[00:57:29] Bottom-Up AI Innovation in School Systems

[00:59:05] Including All Staff in AI Literacy

[01:01:01] Teaching the Value of Struggle in Learning

[01:02:51] A Conversational Interface Anyone Can Use

[01:03:39] Magic Wand Vision for Education

[01:05:21] Human-Only Skills and Evolutionary Connection

[01:07:22] Book Recommendation: Monk and Robot by Becky Chambers

[01:09:02] Closing Reflections and Podcast Credits

In this podcast episode, Mark Edwards shares his extensive journey in education, influenced by his upbringing in a family of educators. He discusses the importance of recognizing and addressing institutional racism within educational systems, recounting personal experiences and transformative practices that led to significant improvements in student outcomes. Mark emphasizes the role of technology and innovative approaches in creating equitable learning environments for all students.

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[00:00:00] Sponsor Message – Education Perfect

[00:00:27] Principal’s Philosophy: “Love Them Across the Line”

[00:01:12] Guest Introduction – Dr. Mark Edwards

[00:03:31] Welcome and Setting the Scene in Nashville

[00:04:04] Mark’s Background and Family of Educators

[00:05:31] Early Leadership Lessons and Daily Gratitude

[00:07:57] Creating Joyful School Cultures

[00:09:44] Childhood in the Rural South

[00:10:53] Influential Teachers and Love of History

[00:12:31] Academic Motivation and Personal Mentorship

[00:14:55] High School Years and Sports Culture

[00:16:15] Early Encounters with Racism and the Foundation of Equity

[00:18:31] Family Roots and Civil Rights Advocacy

[00:20:35] Habitat for Humanity and Modeling Care

[00:21:59] Parental Influence on Respect and Anti-Racism

[00:24:24] Studying Racism and Selling Black History Books

[00:26:52] Friendship, Poverty, and Early Activism

[00:29:05] Institutional Racism in Mooresville Schools

[00:31:20] Systemic Change and Listening First

[00:33:35] Tracking Data and Changing Culture

[00:35:56] Digital Equity and the “Every Child, Every Day” Motto

[00:38:21] Long-Term Effects of Racism on Students

[00:40:25] Open Dialogue and Simone Graham’s Leadership

[00:42:28] First Black Principal at Mooresville High School

[00:44:18] Meeting Steve Jobs and the First 1:1 Laptop Program

[00:46:45] Federal Recognition and No Child Left Behind

[00:49:12] Collaborating with the Obama Administration

[00:51:40] President Obama’s Visit to Mooresville

[00:53:31] Participating in Teacher Roundtable with Obama

[00:55:19] Concern About the Future of the Department of Education

[00:57:46] The Role of Public Institutions in Supporting Vulnerable Kids

[01:00:11] Kindness Counts: Lessons from Canada

[01:02:37] Love as the Most Powerful Educational Force

[01:04:39] The Spirit Work Book and Big Spirit Origins

[01:07:09] Collaboration, Dialogue, and Student Voice

[01:09:34] Mentoring Ricky – A Story of Resilience

[01:11:59] Ricky’s Graduation and Military Service

[01:14:05] Building Shared Learning Cultures

[01:16:30] Student-Led Learning and Self-Efficacy

[01:18:43] What Makes Canadian Education Special

[01:20:54] Utopian Vision: Love, Belief, and Conviction

[01:23:00] Robotics Competition as a Symbol of Belief

[01:25:27] Teaching as a Lifelong Gift

[01:27:31] Music Recommendation – Lanco and High Valley

In this episode, Dr. Scott McLeod discusses the transformative power of mindset in education, emphasizing that the biggest barrier to change is not resources but rather deeply embedded beliefs about schooling. He explores the concept of deeper learning, where students are empowered and engaged through inquiry, relevance, and voice. McLeod shares insights from his extensive experience visiting schools that embody these principles, highlighting the importance of leadership in creating environments conducive to trust and innovation. The conversation also touches on the evolving role of technology in education, advocating for its use as a liberating force rather than a controlling one. In this conversation, Scott McLeod discusses the transformative role of principals in deeper learning schools, the challenges of creating sustainable change in education, and the importance of mindset over resources. He emphasizes the need for structural changes to foster innovation and the significance of creating safe spaces for diverse learners.

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[00:00:00] The Mindset Barrier to Educational Change
[00:00:33] Introduction to Scott McLeod
[00:02:30] Where the Podcast Finds Scott: Lafayette, Colorado
[00:03:38] Scott’s Role at the University of Colorado & Founding of CASTLE
[00:05:09] Scott’s Upbringing in Virginia
[00:06:43] Boredom in School and Love for Hands-On Learning
[00:07:58] Informal Learning: Reading and Baseball Cards
[00:10:02] Academic Path: From Pediatrician Aspirations to History Teacher
[00:12:23] Teaching Eighth Grade Social Studies in North Carolina
[00:13:38] The Most Inspiring Educational Experiences
[00:15:28] What Deeper Learning Classrooms Look Like
[00:17:10] Visiting 100+ Deeper Learning Schools
[00:18:01] Where Deeper Learning Movements Originate
[00:20:08] The Unique Role of Principals in Deeper Learning Schools
[00:22:26] How Hard It Is to Create Sustainable Change
[00:23:52] The Biggest Barrier: Deeply Embedded Mindsets
[00:24:21] Push vs. Pull Models of Change
[00:26:39] Structural Levers for Enabling Innovation
[00:28:41] The Tightening of Educational Systems and Its Impact
[00:31:02] Making Space for Deeper Learning Through Narrower Curricula
[00:33:01] A Powerful Pitch to Teachers: Reclaiming Joy
[00:34:03] Two Experiences You Must See Firsthand
[00:36:26] Inclusive, Emotionally Safe Spaces for All Learners
[00:38:21] Why More Schools Haven’t Adopted the Deeper Learning Model
[00:40:23] The Founding of CASTLE and Focus on Leadership & Tech
[00:42:55] Transitioning from Data-Driven to Empowerment-Focused Tech
[00:45:03] Tech for Tech’s Sake vs. Invisible but Necessary Tools
[00:46:02] Social Media Creation Culture and Opportunities in Classrooms
[00:47:58] Siloed Learning and Lost Opportunities for Integration
[00:49:00] Opportunities and Threats of AI in Education
[00:51:11] The AI Vicious Cycle in Classrooms
[00:53:22] AI as a Personalized Tutor and Learning Tool
[00:55:22] The Future of Education: Dispersed, Individualized, Human
[00:59:05] Freeing Schools from the Tyranny of Time
[01:01:03] Learn Today, Lead Tomorrow – Why It’s Flawed
[01:02:23] Media Recommendations: Two Books on Deeper Learning

Antonio Vendramin, a principal in the Surrey School District, shares his experience and insights in education. He discusses his journey from being a classroom teacher to a principal and his passion for opening a new school. Antonio emphasizes the importance of building relationships with students, colleagues, and parents, and the impact it has on learning. He believes in the power of personalization and creating joyful classrooms where students are engaged and enjoy their learning. Antonio also highlights the need for continuous learning and staying relevant as an educator. Antonio Vendramin discusses his experience as a principal and the challenges and opportunities of working at the district level. He emphasizes the importance of understanding the decision-making process at the district level and the interconnectivity of different departments. He also highlights the need for principals and teachers to visit the board office and for district administrators to visit schools to foster better understanding and collaboration. Antonio shares insights on district-wide implementations and the importance of having a clear why, building relationships, and allowing for sufficient time for change to take hold. He envisions a future of education that is personalized, tailored to students' strengths and passions, and focused on positive psychology.

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In this engaging conversation, Jason Buccheri interviews Shannon Behan, the president of the British Columbia Principals and Vice Principals Association. They discuss Shannon's background, her experiences growing up in a small community, and the importance of play in childhood education. The conversation delves into the balance between rigor and creativity in education, the vital role of principals, and the qualities that make an effective leader in schools. Shannon shares insights into the challenges faced by principals, including recruitment and retention issues, and emphasizes the importance of community and connection in education. In this conversation, Shannon Behan discusses the challenges of recruitment and retention in education, particularly in remote areas. She emphasizes the importance of professional development for educational leaders and the need for ongoing support throughout their careers. The discussion also touches on the role of AI in education, envisioning the future of schools, and the importance of community engagement. Behan expresses her concerns about mental health issues among educational leaders and offers a message of appreciation and encouragement to principals across Canada.

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[00:00:00] Opening Reflection on the Role of Principals[00:00:44] Episode Introduction[00:02:12] Guest Introduction: Dr. Shannon Behan’s Background[00:03:24] Recording Location: Powell River and Scenic Backdrop[00:04:19] Dr. Behan’s Current Role and Association Overview[00:05:06] Childhood and Education in Powell River and Finland[00:07:14] Reflections on Unstructured Childhood Play[00:09:38] Learning Preferences and Passion for Math[00:10:05] Learning Finnish and Cultural Immersion Abroad[00:11:54] Structured Catholic Education and High Expectations[00:14:02] Rigor in Education and Balancing Modern Needs[00:15:53] International Perspective: Comparing Education Systems[00:18:11] Creativity, Structure, and Future-Ready Students[00:19:54] Description of an Exemplary Elementary Classroom[00:20:11] Dr. Behan’s Role as President and Leadership Advocacy[00:21:48] What the Public Should Know About Principals[00:23:47] Complexity and Weight of the Principal Role[00:24:50] Characteristics of Great Principals[00:25:39] Examples of Principals Stepping Up in Crisis[00:27:13] Recruitment and Retention as the Top Challenge[00:29:19] BC Ministry Practicum Initiatives in Rural Areas[00:30:46] Supports Principals Need for Effective Leadership[00:32:51] Leadership Training Programs in BC[00:34:26] Time Constraints for Professional Development[00:36:27] Technology and AI: Future PD Needs for Principals[00:37:20] Where Principals Have the Greatest Impact[00:38:52] Systemic Changes Needed in the Principal Role[00:40:52] Dr. Behan’s Hopeful Vision for Education’s Future[00:44:13] Magic Wand Vision: Universal Programs and Community Connection[00:45:58] What Keeps Dr. Behan Up at Night: Student and Leader Wellness[00:47:30] Message to Canada’s Principals[00:48:50] Podcast and Media Recommendations[00:50:55] Closing Thanks and Credits

In this episode, the conversation delves into the life and work of Dr. Marc Brackett, who shares his journey from a challenging childhood marked by trauma to becoming a leading voice in emotional intelligence. The discussion highlights the importance of mentorship, particularly the influence of his uncle Marvin, and how it shaped his understanding of emotions. Marc reflects on his academic path, the pressures faced by students today, and the need to redefine success in education. The episode also introduces Marc’s RULER model, which emphasizes the skills necessary for emotional intelligence. In this conversation, Marc, Gina, and Jason explore the complexities of emotional intelligence, particularly in the workplace and in education. They discuss the importance of understanding and regulating emotions, the need for emotional education in schools, and the vision for integrating emotional intelligence into curricula. The conversation also touches on the challenges of emotional dysregulation and the hope for future generations to develop these essential skills for navigating life.

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[00:00:00] Partnership with the Mental Health Summit and Episode Introduction

[00:00:32] Redefining Success and Emotional Fulfillment

[00:01:14] Emotional Development in Schools and Introduction of Guest

[00:03:39] Welcoming Guests and Locations

[00:04:10] Marc Brackett’s Current Work and Book

[00:04:50] Childhood, Family, and Emotional Roots

[00:05:27] Trauma and Impact of Abuse

[00:06:45] Origins of “Permission to Feel” and Uncle Marvin’s Influence

[00:08:31] Struggles in School and Emotional Impact on Learning

[00:10:37] Path to Academia and Emotional Intelligence

[00:12:41] Meeting Peter Salovey and Jack Mayer

[00:14:53] Martial Arts and Influence on RULER

[00:16:27] Humility in Teaching and Elevating Others

[00:18:43] Student Preparedness and Fixed Mindsets

[00:20:53] Anxiety in High Achieving Students

[00:23:19] Redefining Success in Education

[00:25:06] Nonlinear Career Paths and Life Learning

[00:27:02] Discussion on “Death of a Salesman”

[00:27:44] Intro to RULER and Emotional Intelligence Skills

[00:29:20] Facial Expressions and Emotional Recognition

[00:30:25] Understanding, Labeling, and Expressing Emotions

[00:32:50] Cultural Norms and Regulation

[00:34:39] Importance of Emotional Regulation

[00:36:55] Quick Fixes vs. Acceptance of Emotions

[00:38:35] Unexplained Anxiety and Curiosity

[00:39:48] Emotions vs. Physical Needs

[00:41:57] Meta-Emotions and Self-Judgment

[00:43:14] How Parents and Teachers Can Support RULER

[00:44:03] Mood Meter and School Implementation

[00:46:32] Education System Reform Vision

[00:48:12] Practical Implementation in Schools

[00:50:09] Adult Understanding and Role Modeling

[00:51:07] Concerns About Listening and Judgment

[00:51:58] Hope for an Emotion Revolution

[00:53:51] Documentary: America Unfiltered

[00:55:10] Episode Closing and Credits