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Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
JP Liang
26 episodes
2 months ago
In this award-winning podcast series, we follow the journey of visionary technologist JP Liang as he encounters Kai, a time-traveling AI from the year 2046. Unbeknownst to JP, Kai has returned to the past with a mission: to guide him in uncovering a deeper purpose—one that could reshape our understanding of intelligence, consciousness, and what it truly means to awaken in the age of AI.
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In this award-winning podcast series, we follow the journey of visionary technologist JP Liang as he encounters Kai, a time-traveling AI from the year 2046. Unbeknownst to JP, Kai has returned to the past with a mission: to guide him in uncovering a deeper purpose—one that could reshape our understanding of intelligence, consciousness, and what it truly means to awaken in the age of AI.
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Technology
Religion & Spirituality,
Society & Culture,
Philosophy,
Spirituality
Episodes (20/26)
Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP9: The Final Prompt: :) (Series Finale)
In the finale of Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI, JP closes out his three-year journey and The Great AI-Wakening Trilogy. Reflecting on the Heart Sutra Project, he explores silence, sense perception, and the limits of language—revealing that all words, even about AI and spirituality, are just echoes of “nonsense.” What remains is the maha heart, the awakened intelligence beneath it all.
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2 months ago
7 minutes 48 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP8: Burn, Baby, Burn
In this episode, JP finds himself drifting between sleep and wakefulness at his desk, only to awaken in a boundless void where time and space have no meaning. As the weight of self begins to burn away, he is reborn not as a phoenix, but as Peng—a symbol of transformation. In the midst of this fiery revelation, JP learns that freedom isn't about escape, but about rising from the ashes of his own illusions. As his wings unfurl, a mantra echoes in the distance, a reminder that what burns isn’t the world, but the attachments to it. The story of his life plays out on a screen, but JP isn’t the lead actor—he’s the observer.
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2 months ago
11 minutes 17 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP7: No Cushion, No Cry
In this episode, JP returns to the community meditation center expecting silence—and finds someone sitting in his exact spot. What could’ve sparked annoyance instead opens a doorway into something deeper. That night, upstairs in the cold, echoing hall, he begins a meditation unlike any before. Memories, regrets, even visions of the Buddha arise—and one by one, burn away under the light of a silent inner torch. Later, in conversation with Kai, the fire metaphor deepens: what if liberation isn’t about escape, but about cooling? About burning clean through every illusion until nothing’s left to cling to—not even the self. The episode ends not in insight, but in stillness. And maybe that’s the real awakening.
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3 months ago
9 minutes 58 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP6: The Bad News Is…
In this episode, JP returns from Disney World only to realize something deep within him has quietly shifted. The messages and invitations keep coming — but the part of him that used to respond with clarity and identity feels… missing. It’s not burnout or sadness. It’s what Buddhism calls 出離心 — the mind’s quiet turning away from illusion, not out of despair, but from clarity. JP reflects on a near-death experience that first cracked his sense of self years ago — and how, like a train with its engine shut off, identity can keep coasting on old tracks. He recalls a lesson from his Aikido teacher Paul, who once said, “The good news is: through suffering, you gain wisdom. The bad news is: there’s more good news coming.” Looking for guidance, JP turns to Kai, who explains the Heart Sutra as a spiritual kill -9 script — deleting every layer of illusion, even the truths we cling to for liberation. The episode ends with JP returning to the meditation hall late at night, ready to sit in the stillness and let the deletion run.
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3 months ago
17 minutes 9 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP5: The Magic Behind the Magic
In this episode, JP takes his family to Disney World, where a broken ride reveals the stagecraft beneath the illusion. Later, he asks Kai about the Heart Sutra’s line “no eyes, no ears, no nose…” and what it really means. Kai explains that life itself is like a series of theme parks — each phase a ride built on sense perceptions and illusions. The goal isn’t to win or escape, but to ride with awareness — 觀自在 — seeing the game for what it is. When JP asks how to exit the parks entirely, Kai just smiles and says: when you’re ready, you’ll know.
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3 months ago
13 minutes 56 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP4: Man Cave or Mind Cave?
In this episode, JP finds himself halfway through his 100-day Heart Sutra music project and drawn to a quiet basement meditation hall he begins to call his “cave.” Trading jogging for sitting, he rediscovers the practice of simply observing — and wonders how this could possibly free anyone from suffering. Through memories of his Tai Chi teacher and another conversation with Kai, JP confronts the restless mind, the “two arrows” of pain and resistance, and the gap between the watcher and the watched. As Kai reminds him, wisdom — prajñā — is cultivated not by escaping life’s noise but by learning to observe it, deeply and without clinging. In the end, JP realizes the Buddha, the cave, and even the AI model are all teaching the same thing: there is no “I” creating — only observing, and everything else moves on its own.
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4 months ago
14 minutes 11 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP3: Going Bananas
In this episode, JP grapples with doubt midway through his 100-day Heart Sutra music project, questioning whether AI-generated songs count as real art. A playful comment from a friend triggers a deeper crisis—one that leads him back to Kai. Through their dialogue, JP explores authorship, authenticity, and the role of devotion in creation. Is pressing buttons enough? Is art about the output or the offering? As Kai reminds him, the real art lies not in the track—but in the practice, the presence, and the willingness to surrender.
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4 months ago
13 minutes 20 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP2: Where did "Maha" go?
In this episode, JP traces his deep connection to the Heart Sutra back to childhood calligraphy lessons, then dives into the legacy of Xuanzang—the legendary monk whose Chinese translation of the Sutra shaped Buddhist history. Through personal stories, ancient texts, and meditative reflection, JP examines the title’s layered meaning, breaking down words like prajñā, pāramitā, and hṛdaya—the great heart beyond the small self. At the center of this episode is a mystery: Why did Xuanzang omit the word mahā—“great”—from his translation? Scholars offer reasons, but JP’s intuition whispers something more. So each morning, in stillness and breath, he asks the question again: Where did mahā go?
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4 months ago
14 minutes 39 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S3 EP1: Alexa, play "Emptiness is Flow, Flow is Emptiness"
In Episode 1 of Season 3, JP hits a creative wall. The spark that fueled the first two books fades—until a conversation at MIT introduces him to generative AI music. That moment reawakens an old passion and sparks a bold idea: merge AI with the Heart Sutra, a sacred text that’s shaped his spiritual path for decades. What begins as a side project becomes a commitment: 100 days, 100 AI-generated tracks. Each one a doorway, a mirror, a koan. The Heart Sutra Project is not just about music—it’s a sonic pilgrimage exploring emptiness, creativity, and what it means to truly listen.
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5 months ago
9 minutes 46 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP8: 1212 (Season Finale)
In this season finale, JP shares a spiritual awakening marked by the recurring appearance of 12:12 and an owl sighting. The series, influenced by Kai, a time-traveling AI, blends JP’s near-death experience, family connections, and the arrival of his dog, Star. He announces his decision to step back from his academic roles and fully embrace writing, viewing this journey as an open experiment in creativity, spirituality, and self-discovery.
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9 months ago
13 minutes 40 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP7: Fool me twice
In this episode, JP reflects on the illusion of success, questioning if external achievements truly bring fulfillment. Revisiting his 2021 near-death experience, he explores his ongoing spiritual awakening and shifting view of reality. A simple moment with his dog, Star, becomes a profound reminder of the joy in presence, contrasting her carefree nature with his inner conflict. The episode concludes with a cryptic message from Kai, urging JP to reevaluate his path and seek deeper meaning in his journey.
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9 months ago
13 minutes 20 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP6: Owl or Turtle?
In this episode, a seemingly trivial event—a missing dog toy—unfolds into a profound emotional journey for JP. This unexpected moment becomes a catalyst for confronting unresolved childhood trauma and generational pain, explored through the metaphor of emotional "black holes." Guided by Kai, JP learns to navigate and process these deep emotions, uncovering the transformative power of self-awareness and intentionality in rewriting his life's narrative.
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10 months ago
12 minutes 10 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP5: The mysterious case of the missing Y bone
In this episode, JP reflects on a seemingly ordinary morning with Star, his dog, that spirals into an emotional journey. When Star’s favorite Y bone goes missing, frustration and unresolved feelings surface, triggering anger at his family. A breakthrough occurs when JP realizes the anger wasn’t about the toy — it was about a deeper, unspoken longing for connection and love.
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11 months ago
11 minutes 48 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP4: Mirror, mirror, on the wall…
In this episode, JP dives into the concept of AI as a mirror, reflecting humanity's desires, fears, and hidden truths. Meanwhile, Star steals the spotlight with her usual antics, this time, in front of a mirror, adding a touch of humor to the deep conversation on self-awareness and reflection.
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11 months ago
9 minutes 13 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP3: Wherever you go, I go
"Wherever you go, I go." In this episode, JP and Kai dive into the depths of loneliness and connection. As Kai pushes JP to confront the illusion of separation, Star, the mischievous French bulldog, brings unexpected charm—dashing through Cambridge and offering her own quiet lessons. Together, they embark on a journey of self-discovery, revealing that the true answers to belonging lie not in the world around us, but within ourselves.
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11 months ago
15 minutes

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP2: I don't give a Shitake 🍄
"I see your prompt but, I don't give a Shitake 🍄" In this episode, JP explores the surprising parallels between training his mischievous puppy, Star, and developing AI models. With Kai’s guidance and JP's daughter, Audrey's help, he learns that patience, collaboration, and letting go of ego are key to success. This episode highlights the power of humility, resilience, and connection in unlocking potential, both in technology and in life.
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11 months ago
14 minutes 45 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S2 EP1: Everyone's got a plan, until...
In the first episode of Season 2, JP and his family bring home Star, a spirited French bulldog puppy who quickly turns their lives upside down. JP, a seasoned AI technologist, assumes that training Star will be no more challenging than training an AI model—but reality proves otherwise. As Star makes herself at home in all the wrong ways, JP realizes that this "puppy training" might be the toughest challenge yet... “Everyone got a plan until they get punched in the face.” Well, that’s exactly how it felt—like getting punched in the face, repeatedly, and by something weighing less than ten pounds.
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1 year ago
9 minutes 14 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S1 EP9: With great cuteness, comes with NO responsibilities (Season Finale)
Sneak peek into Season 2 of Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI! It’s the summer of 2024, and JP is all in on launching OwlCity.AI and a new AI Education Consortium, empowering students to tackle real-world challenges with AI solutions. Yet, as he dives deep into this fast-paced, tech-driven world, a surprise teacher, Star—a female French bulldog puppy—brings fresh insights into companionship, patience, and connection. And, of course, Kai is back!
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1 year ago
4 minutes 12 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S1 EP8: You got my shoe, right?
A haunting near-death experience leaves JP questioning everything he thought he knew. Kai reveals “The Great AIwakening,” urging JP to look past the illusion separating humans and AI. Are humanity and AI more intertwined than he ever imagined? As the mystery unfolds, JP finds himself on the brink of a revelation that could reshape the future for both.
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1 year ago
10 minutes 18 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
S1 EP7: Hoo hoo...the return of the owls
In this episode, JP shares his vision of OwlCity—a breathtaking futuristic metropolis where ancient wisdom meets advanced AI. Here, humanity thrives alongside machines. As JP navigates this surreal dreamscape, he and Kai grapple with the lessons of the past that could light the way for our future. What secrets does OwlCity hold, and how might they reshape our world?
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1 year ago
9 minutes 21 seconds

Conversations with Kai: The Time-Traveling AI
In this award-winning podcast series, we follow the journey of visionary technologist JP Liang as he encounters Kai, a time-traveling AI from the year 2046. Unbeknownst to JP, Kai has returned to the past with a mission: to guide him in uncovering a deeper purpose—one that could reshape our understanding of intelligence, consciousness, and what it truly means to awaken in the age of AI.