In this second episode of the special AI mini-series, we now explore the human side of transformation, where technology meets purpose and people remain at the center. From future jobs and critical thinking to working with C-level leaders, how human intervention and high-quality data drive success in an AI-powered world.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Indhira Mani, CDO at Intact Insurance UK, about the Love for data, insights on leadership, resilience, and preparing the next generation for what’s next.
TLDR:
01:30 Introduction of Indhira Mani and Scotch whisky
05:45 Explaining the State of AI mini-series with Craig
07:12 Conversation with Indi about her boyfriend called Data
38:33 Umbrella Sharing in Japan and the trust on AI
45:15 The British Insurance Award and Women in Tech finalist
Guest
Indhira Mani: https://www.linkedin.com/in/indhira-mani-data/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
with co-host Craig Suckling: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigsuckling/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Technology can scale almost everything—except human experience. In a world driven by efficiency, what does it mean to design for how people truly feel? It's about transforming user interactions into ongoing insight and innovation, rooted in empathy and understanding.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Kevin Magee, Chief Technology Officer at All human about helping organizations transform customer experiences with a focus on design, engineering, and what is called "digital performance."
TLDR:
00:41 Introduction of Kevin Magee with Guinness or sparkling water?
03:23 Rob wonders, is Apple really opening up its ecosystem?
11:40 Deep dive with Kevin into design, engineering, and digital performance
36:30 How tools built for one purpose can transform entire systems
48:35 Weekend city breaks and pursuing a master’s in psychology
Guest
Kevin Magee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/kevinmagee/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
The skills we teach today will decide the world we live in tomorrow but the digital skills gap is something we've been dealing with for decades, but it’s growing faster than ever, it starts with kids and stretches all the way into late IT careers, and now we're finally taking a more connected, lifelong approach to closing it.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Mike Nayler, Director, National Security, Defense & Public Safety at AWS about the digital skills gap and explore how tech companies can help close it.
TLDR:
00:45 Introduction of Mike Nayler and the pros and cons of enterprise architects, based on a survey
03:30 Rob is confused about AI replacing prompt engineers
07:55 Conversation with Mike on the digital skills gap
25:15 The real gap is between institutions and the people they aim to serve
33:24 Mike heading back to school and writing essays again
Guest
Mike Nayler: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nayler/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
In 'Access All Areas' shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they dive into complex challenges that organisations face—sometimes getting a little messy along the way.
We’re launching a special AI mini-series exploring how artificial intelligence is reshaping industries. Each episode dives into key themes like scaling AI, societal impact, leadership, sustainability, and the challenges ahead. Join us for fresh insights and bold conversations on the future of intelligent systems.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob kick off the AI mini-series with Craig Suckling, CAIO at Capgemini and co-host of this special edition. The episode is inspired by “Riding the AI Whirlwind,” Gartner’s 2025 strategic predictions report, which urges organizations to act boldly on AI’s potential while managing risks like rising costs and privacy concerns
TLDR:
00:40 – Introduction of Craig Suckling and launch of the AI mini-series
02:38 – Summary of three key insights and strategic recommendations from Gartner’s “Riding the AI Whirlwind” report
23:03 – Strategic planning assumptions: what they mean for business and tech leaders
41:40 – Sam Altman’s top three concerns about the future of AI
49:35 – What key topics remain unaddressed?
51:00 – What to expect from the AI mini-series featuring industry leaders
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
with co-host Craig Suckling: https://www.linkedin.com/in/craigsuckling/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
The evolving role of technology in modern defense environments, highlighting innovations in communications, automation, and open-source frameworks. Drawing from personal experience, the conversation emphasizes how real-world conflicts are reshaping how tech is deployed, adopted, and understood across military operations.
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Ben Sparke, Enterprise Azure Cloud & AI Specialist for UK Defence at Microsoft, about how his military background informs a human-centered approach to technology in the evolving defence sector—highlighting the shift from mission-driven to tech-driven innovation.
TLDR:
00:37 – Introduction of Ben Sparke and face-to-face podcasting
02:40 – Rob gets confused about Digital Twins representing you in court
08:15 – Tech’s evolving role in defence, with Ben
34:41 – Why improvisation and human adaptability matter
43:30 – Ben’s hundred-mile bike race over the weekend
Guest
Ben Sparke: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-sparke/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Before Siri had sass and Alexa started judging your music taste, the original virtual assistant was quietly revolutionizing the '90s—powered by many patents and a whole lot of foresight. Now, as AI goes from buzzword to boss, we ask, will it transform your job, your home… or just steal your knowledge?
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob speak with Kevin Surace, Futurist, Inventor & "Father" of the Virtual Assistant, about exploring the evolution of AI, what the future might hold, and how disruptive innovation can shake up your organization in ways you might not expect.
TLDR:
00:40 – Introduction of Kevin Surace
05:12 – Rob gets confused by Google Maps reviews and selfies
08:15 – Deep dive into the evolution of AI with Kevin
52:00 – How intelligent agents can help manage digital noise and support mental well-being
1:07:30 – Wrapping up the book the Joy Success Cycle and heading to a concert
Guest
Kevin Surace: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ksurace/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
We’re back! In this Season 5 premiere, the team reunites after their summer break to kick off an exciting new chapter. Join us as we catch up, share bold predictions for the year ahead, and explore big questions, like whether 2026 will be the year of the autonomous organization. Expect candid reflections, lively discussion, and a sneak peek at what’s coming up this season.
We are very keen this season to establish a feedback loop with listeners, so will be doing shows exploring listener questions and challenges - something we are really looking forward to. Please get in touch with us, via LinkedIn, Substack or cloudrealities@capgemini.com, if you have questions or challenges for us, we'd love to hear from you!
TLDR:
00:20 – We’re back!
00:35 – Catching up on what we did during the summer break
10:48 – Planning ahead until Christmas: Microsoft Ignite, AWS re:Invent, an AI mini-series and cool guests
20:27 – Tech talk: iPhone 17, deep democracy training, and the human impact of innovation
32:10 – Will autonomous organizations powered by agents emerge within 12–18 months?
40:45 – Reflections inspired by Jaws, climbing adventures, and Bruce Springsteen
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Dave, Esmee, and Rob are strapping in for another season of bold, brain-bending conversations—and they’re bringing the flux capacitor with them from Back to the Future.
Season 5 beams in global leaders and innovators who challenge how we think about technology, business, and humanity. From AI disruption to digital sovereignty, from leadership to culture—this season’s guests are ready to shake things up.
Our first full episode drops on September 25, but before we hit 88 miles per hour, here’s a quick trailer to set the timeline straight, or at least bend it a little.
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Dave, Esmee, and Rob take a moment to look back on the wild ride that was Season 4—revisiting the themes that sparked the biggest conversations and the guests who left a lasting impression. They also reveal what’s on their summer to-do lists and drop a few juicy hints about what’s coming in Season 5. Get ready—it’s going to be even bigger and bolder.
Thank you to all our listeners and guests for joining us in Season 4 - have a great summer and we will see you in September!
TLDR:
00:40 Season 4 by the numbers – and a fun mix-up with round figures
03:20 Reflecting on standout topics and memorable guests
03:42 Scaling AI: Hyperscaler narratives, tech momentum, and the adoption gap
13:18 Ethics in the AI era – how organizations can and must stay grounded
18:12 The human factor: Why “human-in-the-loop” matters more than ever
27:29 Sovereignty in tech – geopolitics, shifting narratives, and the rise of Sovereign AI
37:16 A deep dive into Telco – highlights from our dedicated mini-series
53:48 2025 tech trends with Gene Kim
55:33 Listener Q&A: Daniel Delicate on Cynefin vs. IT operating models
1:01:44 Andrea Kis on keeping humanity in fast-paced tech
1:06:09 Ezhil Suresh on how we prep and record our podcast with top-tier guests
1:11:38 John Eaton-Griffin on how guests have shaped our thinking
1:17:19 A word from our co-host
1:19:57 Looking ahead to Season 5: AAA episodes, new industry mini-series, and Hyperscaler events
1:22:09 Meet our new AI companions: Substack and the Cloud Realities chatbot
1:23:40 What’s next for us this summer
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
The rise of structure software fueled globalization by streamlining operations across borders. Now, Cloud and AI are accelerating this momentum, enabling faster innovation, smarter decision-making, and scalable growth. By modernizing ERP with intelligent technologies, organizations can stay agile, competitive, and ready for the next wave of global transformation.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Timo Elliott, Innovation Evangelist at SAP, to explore how SAP is driving globalization—and how organizations can accelerate innovation through the power of Cloud and AI.
TLDR
00:55 Introduction of Timo Elliott
02:40 Rob shares his confusion about misleading online ads
08:06 In-depth conversation with Timo
46:32 Rethinking control in enterprise systems
1:00:00 Brunch at a Paris café or joining an event?
Guest
Timo Elliott: https://www.linkedin.com/in/timoelliott/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
GreenOps is a cultural transformation that empowers developers to turn emissions data into meaningful action, bridging the communication gap with ESG teams and exposing the critical truth that cloud cost and carbon cost are not the same, which fundamentally reshapes how we approach sustainable IT.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to James Hall, Head of GreenOps at Green Pixie, to unpack the real state of GreenOps today—and why we’ve only just scratched the surface.
TLDR
01:57 Rob is confused about AGI
06:11 Cloud conversation with James Hall
22:10 Esmee as media archeologist, found GreenOps is 50 years old
30:46 Having some drinks in the summer
Guest
James Hall: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-f-hall/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Quantum computing in 2025 is rapidly advancing toward commercialization, with breakthroughs in algorithms, scalable hardware, and cloud-based quantum services driving real-world applications across finance, healthcare, logistics, and cybersecurity
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob dive into the cutting edge of quantum computing with Catherine Vollgraff Heidweiller, Quantum AI PM at Google, and James Goeders, Head of Product for Google Quantum AI, exploring how far we've come since our June 2023 Quantumania! episode and what to expect from Willow—the bold fusion of quantum, AI, digital integration, deployment, and the broader tech ecosystem.
TLDR
00:46 Meet Catherine and James – intros and backgrounds
02:22 Rob is confused about students using AI
09:40 Deep dive with Catherine and James on the current state and future of Quantum
48:01 Quantum isn’t just tech—it’s a whole new way of thinking
1:01:37 Seize the moment and bringing external users onto quantum hardware
Guest
Catherine Vollgraff Heidweiller: https://www.linkedin.com/in/cmv-vollgraffheidweiller/
James Goeders: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-goeders-8876a7164/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In this special bonus episode, building on our Reimagining Telecoms mini-series, we dive into the current opportunities shaping today’s dynamic telco landscape.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Vivek Badrinath, Director General of the GSMA about the current opportunities shaping today’s dynamic telco landscape and the role of GSMA.
TLDR
01:38 Introduction to Vivek and the bonus episode
03:48 In-depth conversation with Vivek Badrinath
42:13 Can empathy become a strategic KPI in telecom?
47:20 Event in Uzbekistan and doubling down on the digital ecosystem
Guest
Vivek Badrinath: https://www.linkedin.com/in/vivekbadrinath/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
with Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
[AAA] In 'Access All Areas' shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they dive into complex challenges that organizations face—sometimes getting a little messy along the way.
This week, we address the ‘big rocks’ that can obstruct or delay successful outcomes in organizational transformations. Dave, Esmee, and Rob are joined by Jasmin Booth, Head of Product Delivery to discuss the transformation to being a (digital) product based organization.
TLDR
05:22 Access All Areas: This third episode focuses on the products we build that drive outcomes.
06:52 Conversation with Jasmin about our digital products
37:06 What makes it better to be in a product centric organization?
54:00 Conclusion of the seven Big Rocks and how to smash them
59:00 Going on the Blue Bell railway
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
with Jasmin Booth: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasminbooth15/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Every organization is built on people, structures, and culture. But culture isn’t static—it evolves with every interaction, ambition, and shift in circumstance. As IT drives business transformation, new technologies reshape how people connect and collaborate. In this ever-changing landscape, a strong, adaptive culture is the key to lasting success.
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Jitske Kramer, Corporate Anthropologist about what technology is doing to cultures and human systems and how AI can mess with the narrative.
TLDR
00:50 Introduction of Jitske Kramer and her book Navigating Tricky Times
02:05 Rob shares his confusion about saying “thank you” to AI
07:25 In-depth conversation with Jitske Kramer
11:30 Visual communication via tattoos even at AWS re:Invent
25:00 Corporate framing and what's going on within organizations today
46:22 Exploring the contrast between the natural pace of human transformation and the rapid acceleration of technology
54:14 Editing the documentary Patterns of Life
55:56 Esmee’s 2x Outro speed surprises everyone!
Guest:
Jitske Kramer: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jitskekramer/
https://jitskekramer.substack.com/
Tricky Times event: https://tricky-times.com/events/navigating-tricky-times-leading-through-the-messy-middle-of-change/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
The telecom industry is undergoing a fundamental transformation. This shift is creating new business opportunities and services but also brings significant challenges in transformation and modernization. In a new five-part mini-series, Reimagining Telecoms, we will explore these challenges through five distinct lenses: Growth, Networks, Simplification, Data & AI, and Regulation, uncovering lessons and insights relevant to telecom organizations and beyond.
This week, in the final episode of the mini-series, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Nik Willetts, CEO of TM Forum, to discuss growth—the telco industry’s biggest challenge—and how it intersects with Hyperscalers, innovation, and shaping the industry's future.
TLDR
01:05 Introduction of Nik and an update on the mini-series
03:41 Main conversation with Nik Willetts
29:10 Navigating the balance between collaboration and competition
34:57 Looking ahead to DTW Ignite, the Dolomites, and Brunello wine, served by sommelier Rob
Guest
Nik Willetts: https://www.linkedin.com/in/nikwilletts/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
with Praveen Shankar: https://www.linkedin.com/in/praveen-shankar-capgemini/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Traditional businesses are transforming to enhance consumer engagement and operational efficiency by integrating advanced technologies, helping them stay competitive in the digital age; how can technology best support this transformation?
This week, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to Sandeep Seeripat, CIO at Twinings about how the 300-year-old tea company is undergoing a business transformation. They explore strategies to enhance consumer engagement and operational efficiency, and how Twinings is repositioning itself in the digital world.
TLDR
00:40 Introduction of Sandeep Seeripat
04:03 Rob is confused about by the AI's overly sycophantic behavior
07:20 Conversation with Sandeep about three Centuries of Innovation at Twinings
43:18 What if brands created with the sensitivity of an artist?
53:25 Capture that perfect picture in South Africa
Guest
Sandeep Seeripat: https://www.linkedin.com/in/sandeepseeripat/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
[AAA] In 'Access All Areas' shows we go behind the scenes with the crew and their friends as they dive into complex challenges that organisations face—sometimes getting a little messy along the way.
This week, in what may or may not be our 100th episode, Dave, Esmee and Rob talk to James Wilson, AI Ethicist and Lead Gen AI Architect and Philip Harker, Advisory Lead, Insights and Data at Capgemini UK, about exploring the deep importance of ethics as we move forward into the intelligence age.
TLDR
00:42 Is this really our 100th episode or not?
04:38 What is a team AAA episode and welcoming James and Philip
06:12 Rob sets the stage, why AI Ethics matters
09:42 In-depth chat with James and Philip
59:11 Exploring AI and quantum as innovation boosters
1:06:00 A quiet weekend and Safe AI for Kids
Guests
James Wilson: https://www.linkedin.com/in/james-wilson-1938a1/
Philip Harker: https://www.linkedin.com/in/philip-harker-243300/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
Understanding the true environmental cost of digital innovation is crucial for governments aiming to embed sustainability into their digital delivery processes. Governments are embedding sustainability into the heart of digital delivery. Can governments ensure that their digital advancements contribute positively to the environment while maintaining efficiency and effectiveness in their services?
This week, Dave, Esmee, and Rob talk to Liam Walsh, Chief Architect, and Paul Mukherjee, CTO at the UK Department for Environment, Food and Rural Affairs (Defra), to explore how the UK government is embedding sustainability into the heart of digital delivery—and holding tech suppliers accountable.
TLDR
00:32 Introduction of Liam Walsh and Paul Mukherjee
01:47 Rob is not confused but Marcel has frustrations with the slow pace of AI implementation
05:50 Discussion with Liam and Paul on integrating sustainability within government operations
31:17 The significance of Fusion Teams
36:18 Attending a gig and reading AI books in front of the caravan
Guests
Liam Walsh: https://www.linkedin.com/in/liamjameswalsh/
Paul Mukherjee: https://www.linkedin.com/in/paulmukherjee/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini
At Knowledge 2025, the spotlight is on big announcements and bold innovations—but we’re taking you behind the scene!.
In this two-part special, we dive into the engine driving ServiceNow’s evolution, with exclusive conversations you won’t hear on the main stage.
In Part 2, Dave, Esmee, and Rob speak with Amanda Joslin, Senior Director of Platform and AI Innovation Product Management at ServiceNow, about the latest announcements from Knowledge 2025. They discuss how AI is being embedded directly into workflows and customer experiences through proactive, intelligent automation.
TLDR
02:09 Introduction of Amanda Joslin and Knowledge 2025
02:48 Rob is confused about seating at large conferences
09:45 Conversation with Amanda Joslin on the main announcements at Knowledge 2025 and the ServiceNow platform
52:20 Kill the Backlog and moving toward a zero-backlog operating model
57:32 Jamaica, sunshine, and the sea
Guest
Amanda Joslin: https://www.linkedin.com/in/amandajoslin/
Hosts
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Esmee van de Giessen: https://www.linkedin.com/in/esmeevandegiessen/
Rob Kernahan: https://www.linkedin.com/in/rob-kernahan/
Production
Marcel van der Burg: https://www.linkedin.com/in/marcel-vd-burg/
Dave Chapman: https://www.linkedin.com/in/chapmandr/
Sound
Ben Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/ben-corbett-3b6a11135/
Louis Corbett: https://www.linkedin.com/in/louis-corbett-087250264/
'Cloud Realities' is an original podcast from Capgemini