Two presidents of the same scrappy Charlotte chapter share what it’s like to step up without a roadmap. In this episode of Cheers & Tiers, we sit down with Carolyn Colonna and Taylor Nall, who each led AIGA Charlotte through very different moments of growth and experimentation.

They talk about the unexpected ways they found AIGA, what it means to lead with trust instead of ego, and why showing up with openness (and a well-placed DM) can create real change. There’s a quiet kind of bravery in simply showing up—and these two prove it matters.

Key Takeaways

• Don’t wait for permission: Carolyn stepped into the presidency during a leadership gap—without a plan, but with purpose.
• Cold DMs work: Taylor reached out to AIGA before he even graduated, and ended up president.
• Trust is everything: Both leaders focused on vulnerability and connection, not titles.
• Design solves everything: Even event engagement—just ask the Mullet Meter.
• Leave it better: Good leaders set others up to thrive after they’re gone.

Key Moments in This Episode

• 00:40 – Carolyn’s accidental presidency: stepping up during a leadership gap
• 03:20 – Taylor’s cold DM: reaching out to AIGA before graduating
• 06:05 – From college volunteer to board president: Taylor’s rise
• 08:10 – Leading with trust: Carolyn’s core approach
• 10:40 – Building the next team: why mentorship mattered
• 13:00 – Bridging leadership styles: collaborative handoffs and honest reflection
• 15:10 – The Mullet Meter: a playful way to track event vibes
• 16:30 – What future leaders need: permission, support, and follow-through

About Our Guests

Carolyn Colonna is a designer and creative leader based in Charlotte, NC. She helped steer AIGA Charlotte through a leadership gap with a human-centered, trust-first approach. Today she continues to create experiences and environments where creativity and connection thrive. 

Taylor Nall became AIGA Charlotte’s youngest chapter president while still finishing college. He brought a fresh take on leadership, proving that initiative, authenticity, and a good sense of humor can take you far.

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Guest Taylor Nall, connect on LinkedIn

Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn

Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn 

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What do pyramid photos, Harry Potter, and a karaoke dare from Debbie Millman have in common? They’re all part of Jenn Visocky O’Grady and Justin Ahrens’ journey through AIGA leadership—and proof that the best design stories don’t always happen on stage. In this episode, they reflect on 20+ years of retreats, road trips, poster campaigns, and unexpected friendships. From building student chapters and Design for Good initiatives to scaling purpose-driven work through their careers, they show how showing up (and sometimes singing) can change everything.

Key Takeaways

• You had to earn it: Retreats weren’t perks—they were rewards for doing the work.
• Brave questions open doors: Jenn’s habit of speaking up led to a lifelong friendship.
• Design for Good made waves: Local efforts grew into national campaigns with real impact.
• Relationships were the pipeline: Conferences led to collaborations, career moves—and family vacations.
• Small chapters mattered: Big ideas came from all corners, not just the coasts.
• You don’t need to pyramid: Even the cautious (hi Jenn) found their place—and their people.

Key Moments in This Episode

1. 00:45 – Meeting at Austin: Jenn and Justin cross paths at a leadership retreat and bond over a big design question
2. 04:15 – Chapter to national: How local board service led to the AIGA national stage
3. 06:40 – Design family: Retreats became the annual reunion neither of them wanted to miss
4. 08:40 – Commitment check: Rachel skips a cousin’s wedding to attend the Denver retreat
5. 10:00 – Heroes, humanized: From Debbie Millman karaoke to airport pickups with Kit Hinrichs
6. 12:20 – One brave question: Jenn speaks up, Justin notices—and a friendship begins
7. 17:55 – Chaos and costumes: Pizza suits, pyramid photos, and how scale gave projects life
8. 23:45 – Real-world prep: AIGA board service trained them for academic and agency leadership
9. 30:45 – What’s “good” now?: Memes, AI, and the missing design role models
10. 44:50 – Path to Impact: How one national initiative started with 200 members in Cleveland

About Our Guests

Jenn Visocky O’Grady  Jenn is Associate Dean and full professor at Cleveland State University, co-founder of AIGA Cleveland’s student chapter, and co-author of The Information Design Handbook (and three other books) with her husband Ken. Her design work has appeared in How, Print, and Communication Arts. These days she leads a massive academic department and still finds time for pyramid photos, family vacations, and community impact. Also known as “Safety Jen.”

Justin Ahrens  Justin is Chief Creative Officer of Rule29, a Certified B Corp focused on using design to create positive impact. He’s a TEDx speaker, podcast host (Design Of, Creative Shit Show), and co-creator of initiatives like Wheels for Water, which helped bring clean water access to over 20,000 people. He believes in community, vulnerability, and big swings—and credits AIGA for the most meaningful friendships in his life.

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• Guest Justin Ahrens, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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Two leaders who first met at an AIGA conference and ended up married share how a small but mighty chapter built national programs—and how retreats, late nights, and a little chaos shaped their leadership journey. Laurel Webster and James “Jamey” Hersick trace their path from student chapters and dissolving boards to facilitating competitions like Flux, pulling off unforgettable events, and carrying design-for-good values into their client work. Along the way, they recount pyramids, beer swaps, and 6 a.m. lobby hangouts that turned colleagues into lifelong friends.

Key Takeaways

• Small chapters, big impact: Even under 100 members, Blue Ridge launched programs like Flux and Mock Up that went national.
• Jumping in works: Both Laurel and Jamey stepped into leadership without a roadmap and kept their chapter alive.
• Retreats change everything: Omaha, Denver, Grand Rapids, and Raleigh weren’t just meetings—they were accelerators for ideas and friendships.
• Traditions matter: Human pyramids, beer swaps, and the “6 a.m. club” became part of AIGA lore.
• Design for Good lives on: Early AIGA initiatives continue to guide their purpose-driven client work.
• Core values lead the way: Defining principles helped them align business, life, and leadership.

Key Moments in This Episode

1. 00:45 – Meeting at Pivot: Laurel and Jamey cross paths in Phoenix over a Design for Good panel and one unforgettable question.
2. 03:40 – Long-distance beginnings: Flying between West Virginia and California before deciding to make it official.
3. 06:15 – From treasurer to president: Jamey’s reluctant start in Blue Ridge leadership.
4. 07:40 – Jumping into the deep end: Laurel volunteers to be chapter president just months after moving cross-country.
5. 09:10 – Small but mighty: How Blue Ridge grew student programming and turned Flux into an international competition.
6. 13:25 – Retreat icebreakers: Jamey’s first encounter with Debbie Millman—and Omaha’s unforgettable Embassy Suites jungle.
7. 16:20 – Pyramid initiation: Laurel’s first glimpse of the human pyramid tradition at Grand Rapids.
8. 18:50 – Beer swaps and rooftop hangs: Why retreat room parties built lasting connections.
9. 20:30 – Finding belonging: When retreats transformed AIGA from cliquish to “these are my people.”
10. 25:20 – Lessons that stick: How facilitation, mentorship, and collaboration still shape their client work today.
11. 27:40 – From design to place: Current projects helping Alabama communities connect history, heritage, and future growth.
12. 34:40 – Core values in the air: A plane ride that pushed them to define personal and business principles.
13. 36:10 – Power of intimacy: Why small chapters created trust, agency, and innovation.
14. 40:00 – Punching above their weight: Blue Ridge’s Mock Up, mentoring tours, and even high school outreach.

About Our Guests

Laurel Webster is Principal and Creative Director of Hersick+Webster Creative Partners, the brand marketing agency she co-founded with her husband, James. Their award-winning work helps purpose-driven organizations create meaningful solutions for people and places, earning recognition from GDUSA, Print, and the Art Director’s Club. A California native now based in West Virginia, Laurel also serves on local nonprofit boards, teaches yoga, and stays busy with long-distance running, two sons, and three dogs.

James Hersick is Principal and Director of Strategy and Design Impact at Hersick+Webster Creative Partners, where he draws on more than 20 years of experience to help organizations build thriving, purpose-driven communities. His work spans five continents and has been honored by GDUSA, Print, and the Art Director’s Club. Active in his local community as a board member and organizer, James is also a writer, artist, and outdoorsman—when he’s not busy being Dad to two boys and three dogs.

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• Guest James Hersick, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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Two longtime friends turned co-leaders share how they built AIGA Seattle like a business—and kept the fun alive with hot dogs, karaoke, and pyramids. Kevin Berger and Aaron Shurts recount their journey from board interviews and budget struggles to building sustainable programming and epic conferences. Along the way, they reveal the bonds that leadership retreats created (and the legendary late-night antics that made them unforgettable).

Key Takeaways

• Run chapters like businesses: Sustainable structure beats constant one-off burnout.
• Financial stewardship matters: Turning deficits into reserves made big programs possible.
• Retreats are culture accelerators: They forged instant friendships and solved common challenges across chapters.
• Traditions build bonds: Pyramids, karaoke, and late-night hot dog runs made retreats unforgettable.
• Mentorship pays forward: Early AIGA leaders inspired Kevin and Aaron to support the next generation.
• Leadership translates: Board lessons built confidence, shaped careers, and even extended into new adventures beyond design.

Key Moments in This Episode

1. 00:21 – From students to presidents: Kevin and Aaron trace their paths into AIGA Seattle leadership, from board interviews to co-leading the chapter.  
2. 05:46 – Building structure like a business: How they shifted Seattle’s chapter from burnout one-offs to sustainable programs like Schmooze.  
3. 10:33 – Turning red into black: Facing down a negative budget, they created financial sustainability and rebuilt the chapter’s reserves.  
4. 14:20 – Into the Woods: The origin of Seattle’s beloved design camp, and the struggle to make big conferences both meaningful and solvent.  
5. 20:52 – Connections that matter: Kevin recalls how early mentors like Terry Marks and Jesse Duquillo inspired him to pay it forward to young designers.  
6. 29:14 – Retreat revelations: Why leadership retreats felt like “college on steroids,” with instant connections and problem-solving across chapters.  
7. 36:40 – Hot dog diplomacy: The unforgettable 3 a.m. Denver street-corner memory—bonding quietly over hot dogs amid city chaos.  
8. 42:12 – Pyramid time: How spontaneous human pyramids became the unofficial leadership-retreat tradition (yes, even in elevators).  
9. 48:29 – Swim-off showdown: Aaron’s hilarious “race” against Raleigh president Matt Enios—complete with sabotage.  
10. 55:18 – Karaoke choreography: Aaron’s Proud Mary performance—with full backup dancers—cemented his legend at retreat karaoke.  
11. 1:05:42 – Beyond AIGA: Life after board service—Kevin focused on agency leadership, while Aaron became a certified charter captain leading fishing trips.  

About Our Guests

Kevin Berger is Executive Creative Director and Partner at Graphiti, where he’s led creative strategy for Amazon, Starbucks, Tableau, and more. He served as Programming Director, VP, and President of AIGA Seattle, helping stabilize its programs and finances.

Aaron Shurts is Founder and Principal of Mentor Creative Group, a Seattle-based design and technology agency. With over two decades of experience, he’s held leadership roles at Deloitte Digital, taught at the Art Institutes, and served as AIGA Seattle Vice President and President. Outside design, Aaron is a certified charter captain leading marine adventures in the Pacific Northwest.

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• Guest Aaron Shurts, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
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From trivia-fueled pool parties in Miami to five-tier pyramids sketched out on cocktail napkins, Jacksonville brought the fun and the leadership to AIGA retreats. In this episode, we’re joined by longtime partners-in-crime Karen Kurycki (aka CMYKaren) and Varick Rosete (TigerLily Chief Design Officer) to relive the wild, heartfelt, and often hilarious stories from their years leading the Jacksonville design community. These two have done it all—presidents, mentors, party planners, pyramid architects—and their chapter motto said it best: “Have fun. Get sh*t done.”

Key Takeaways:

• How a bag of Pringles sparked a legendary retreat icebreaker 
• Why Miami might actually be the birthplace of the pyramid (sorry, Omaha)
• The mysterious origins of the 6 a.m. Club and why it still lives on
• Behind the scenes of Jacksonville’s epic “room parties” (and why they weren’t really in Jacksonville’s room)
• Building lasting community impact—from high school mentorship programs to 70+ chapter events a year

It’s a trip down memory lane that shows how design leadership is equal parts planning, partying, and people-first community building.

Key Moments in This Episode

1. 00:16 – Meet the Jacksonville duo: Karen “CMYKaren” Kurycki and Varick Rosete, design leaders known for blending creativity, leadership, and community.
2. 02:21 – Karen’s AIGA journey: From volunteer chair to chapter president to launching the Discover Design mentorship program.
3. 05:19 – Varick’s fast track: How a love for connecting people turned into a leap from membership to VP to president.
4. 06:45 – Miami retreat memories: Poolside beers, Pringles trivia, and the surprising birthplace of the pyramid.
5. 10:14 – Pyramid engineering: Napkin sketches, five-tier ambitions, and why security guards weren’t amused.
6. 12:00 – Masked introductions: Jacksonville’s Michael Jackson masks made a memorable (and sweaty) first impression.
7. 13:41 – Crashing retreats: How Varick became known for sneaking into leadership gatherings without a badge.
8. 19:14 – Designing for good: Karen shares how social design talks inspired a decade-long mentorship program in Jacksonville.
9. 26:40 – The Jacksonville party myth: Why their chapter became legendary for gatherings—even when they weren’t technically the hosts.
10. 29:54 – The 6 a.m. Club: The origin story of an all-night tradition that stretched across multiple retreats.
11. 37:23 – 76 events in one year: The ambitious streak that energized (and nearly exhausted) AIGA Jacksonville.
12. 40:16 – Beyond AIGA: How both leaders continue to shape community after their official chapter roles.

About our guests

Karen Kurycki – Designer, illustrator, and socially engaged creative known for her watercolor work and civic design projects. Former AIGA Jacksonville president and creator of Discover Design, a mentorship program for students.

Varick Rosete – Chief Design Officer at TigerLily, longtime Jacksonville design leader, and former AIGA Jacksonville president. Known for connecting cultural resonance with design and building community through events like One Spark Festival.

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• Guest Karen Kurycki, connect on LinkedIn
• Guest Varick Rosete, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this episode of Cheers & Tiers, hosts Rachel Elnar and Eric Cargill welcome design leaders Michele Cooper and Kelly Holohan to discuss their journeys in design leadership, particularly within AIGA Philadelphia. They share their experiences in leadership roles, the challenges they faced, and the triumphs they achieved in building a strong community. The conversation highlights memorable moments from leadership retreats, the importance of networking, and the lessons learned from their experiences. The episode emphasizes the significance of activism in design and the lasting relationships formed through shared experiences in the design community.

Key Takeaways

• The importance of community and relationships in design leadership.
• Challenges faced in building membership and financial stability in AIGA.
• Memorable moments from leadership retreats and the fun of networking.
• The role of activism in design and its impact on the community.
• Lessons learned from working with volunteers and motivating them.
• The significance of education in shaping future designers and leaders.
• The evolution of AIGA and its influence on local chapters.
• The importance of creating engaging programming for members.
• Reflections on the past and the future of design leadership.

Episode Chapters

00:00 Introduction to Design Leadership

02:21 Journey into Leadership Roles

08:42 Challenges and Triumphs in AIGA

15:32 Building Community and Relationships

21:04 Memorable Leadership Retreats

34:01 Lessons Learned from Leadership

43:01 Reflections on the Past and Future

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• Guest Michele Cooper, connect on LinkedIn
• Guest Kelly Holohan, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this episode, design leaders Seth Johnson and Jenny Price share their personal journeys into design leadership, their experiences with AIGA, and the impact of community building in their careers. They reflect on their leadership roles at IBM and General Motors, the importance of mentorship, and memorable moments from leadership retreats. The conversation highlights the significance of connections and the lessons learned through their involvement in design organizations.

Key Takeaways

• Seth and Jenny both credit AIGA for their leadership development.
• Building community is essential for effective design leadership.
• Leadership roles at IBM and General Motors require collaboration and understanding.
• Memorable experiences at leadership retreats foster lasting connections.
• Design leadership is about inspiring others to follow and engage.
• AIGA taught them how to create scalable initiatives.
• The importance of mentorship in their careers is emphasized.
• Community building is a continuous journey that requires effort.
• Leadership in design is about making a lasting impact.
• Personal relationships formed through AIGA have shaped their careers.

Episode Chapters

01:29 Personal Journeys in Design Leadership

07:35 Building Community and Connections

19:16 Leadership Roles at IBM and General Motors

27:08 Memorable Moments from Leadership Retreats

50:47 Reflections on Community and Impact

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• Guest Jenny Price, connect on LinkedIn
• Guest Seth Johnson, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this episode, we reflect on the key lessons learned from the first season, focusing on leadership within the design community. We discuss how leadership often begins before one feels ready, the impact of invitations in shaping careers, and the significance of retreats as pivotal moments in personal and professional growth. The conversation emphasizes the importance of community, mentorship, and the messy, generous nature of real leadership, culminating in a call to action for listeners to engage with local creative organizations.

Key Takeaways

• Leadership starts before you feel ready.
• Imposter syndrome is common among new leaders.
• One invitation can change everything in your career.
• Retreats serve as origin stories for many leaders.
• Real leadership is often small, messy, and generous.
• Community is the core of effective leadership.
• Mentorship plays a crucial role in leadership development.
• Full-circle moments highlight the importance of giving back.
• Building relationships is more important than showcasing work.
• Engagement in local creative organizations is vital for growth.

Episode Chapters

01:04 Leadership Begins Before You Feel Ready

04:22 The Power of Invitation in Leadership

08:09 Retreats as Origin Stories

11:49 The Nature of Real Leadership

16:23 Community as the Core of Leadership

20:44 Full Circle Moments in Leadership

27:48 Reflecting on Lessons Learned

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• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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Erik Cargill and Rachel Elnar chat with Kristine Johnson, a prominent figure in design leadership in Seattle. We explore her journey with AIGA, her impactful role in sponsorship, and the significance of community connections through leadership retreats. Christine shares insights on the unique ‘Into the Woods’ program and the AIGA LINK initiative, which connects professionals with youth in creative workshops. The conversation emphasizes the importance of networking, redefining community, and the evolving landscape of sponsorship in the design world.

Key Takeaways

• Kristine Johnson is a design leader with a strong background in AIGA.
• Sponsorship success is built on community chemistry and collaboration.
• Leadership retreats provide valuable networking opportunities.
• The 'Into the Woods' program fosters creative exploration among designers.
• The AIGA Link program connects professionals with youth for creative workshops.
• Networking is about giving and receiving within the community.
• AIGA has opportunities to redefine community engagement.
• Sponsorship needs to adapt to the current design landscape.
• Mentorship plays a crucial role in professional development.
• Building relationships is key to successful design leadership.

Episode Chapters

00:56 AIGA Involvement and Sponsorship Success

06:09 Leadership Retreats and Community Connections

10:15 Into the Woods: A Unique Design Experience

16:37 The AIGA LINK Program: Bridging Professionals and Youth

19:22 Reflections on Board Experiences and Networking

24:44 Redefining Community and Sponsorship

32:22 Resources for Further Learning

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• Guest Kristine Johnson, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this episode, we welcome Bernardo Margulis, a creative leader with a rich background in design and technology. We discuss Bernardo’s journey with AIGA Philadelphia, the challenges and successes he faced in sponsorship roles, the importance of taking risks in professional growth, and memorable experiences from the Miami retreat. The conversation highlights the value of networking, mentorship, and the supportive nature of the design community. In this engaging conversation, we reflect on past experiences with parties, leadership roles, and the importance of community connections.

Key Takeaways

• Bernardo Margulis has a diverse background in design and technology.
• Sponsorship roles can be daunting but also rewarding and educational.
• Taking risks is essential for personal and professional growth.
• Networking at events can lead to lasting connections and opportunities.
• Experiences from retreats can provide valuable insights and learning.
• Being young and inexperienced can sometimes be an advantage in leadership roles.
• The design community is supportive and encourages experimentation.
• Mentorship plays a crucial role in professional development.
• Education is a lifelong journey fueled by passion.
• Community connections are vital for personal growth.
• Reflecting on past challenges can inspire future initiatives.
• The role of mentorship in professional development is crucial.
• Building community is essential for collective success.

Episode Chapters

03:02 The Journey with AIGA Philadelphia
06:02 Sponsorship Challenges and Triumphs
08:48 The Importance of Taking Risks
11:46 Networking and Learning Experiences
17:55 Memorable Moments from Miami Retreat
21:08 Nostalgic Nights: Parties and Memories
25:09 Leadership Journey: The Impact of AIGA
30:33 Learning Through Experience: The Role of Education
35:11 Community Connections: The Importance of Networking
40:34 Reflections and Future Aspirations

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• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this episode of Cheers & Tiers, we engage with Gage Mitchell, a design leader and advocate for sustainable practices. Gage shares his journey through various AIGA chapters, emphasizing the importance of community building and leadership in design. This conversation explores the leadership journey of a prominent figure in AIGA, focusing on their experiences with organizing events, the value of leadership retreats, and the importance of building connections within the design community. Gage shares insights on leading retreats, fostering community impact, and the collaborative efforts of the Design for Good Task Force. They discuss the importance of harnessing the power of design to create meaningful experiences and the role of leadership in fostering creativity. The conversation also touches on practical advice for restarting AIGA Seattle, emphasizing the need to start small and empower others.

Key Takeaways

• Joining AIGA was a pivotal moment in Gage's career.
• He started a student group to engage with AIGA early on.
• Community building opened doors for Gage before graduation.
• Gage's journey includes multiple AIGA chapters across the U.S.
• Networking creates a powerful national community for designers.
• Unexpected connections often lead to the most meaningful relationships.
• Leadership retreats provide opportunities for learning and sharing knowledge.
• The integration of design, sustainability, and inclusion is crucial for impactful solutions.
• Creating frameworks for design can help facilitate better community solutions.
• Design for good emphasizes community engagement in the creative process.
• Starting small can lead to greater community involvement.
• Empowering others prevents burnout in leadership roles.
• Design leadership involves planting seeds for growth.
• Memorable experiences strengthen bonds within the design community.

Episode Chapters

05:51 Building Community Through AIGA

09:03 Transitioning to New Cities and AIGA Chapters

11:59 Leadership Retreat Experiences

14:51 Reflections on Community Building and Leadership

19:12 The Value of Leadership Retreats

21:03 Memorable Moments Beyond Programming

23:40 FOMO and Connection Building

25:14 Impact of Connections on Career

26:42 Design for Good Task Force and Collaboration

29:06 Integrating Design, Sustainability, and Inclusion

33:37 Leading Leadership Retreats

36:45 Community Impact through Leadership

39:21 Design for Good: Engaging Communities

40:44 Harnessing the Power of Design

41:38 Creating Space for Creativity

43:02 Restarting AIGA Seattle: Advice for New Leaders

45:30 Building Community: Start Small and Grow

46:50 Pyramid Memories: Fun and Connection

49:04 In-Person Connections: The Future of AIGA Seattle

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• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this conversation, Victor Davila shares his extensive journey in design leadership, particularly within AIGA. He discusses his roles, experiences at leadership retreats, and the importance of community in fostering growth and collaboration. Victor emphasizes the balance of multiple commitments and the impact of mentorship and relationships in the creative field. He reflects on memorable moments from leadership retreats and the collective spirit of the design community. This conversation explores the evolution of community engagement through design, focusing on initiatives like Unido and Changemakers that empower nonprofits. The speakers reflect on the significance of leadership retreats in fostering connections and ideas, the importance of mentorship, and the need for rebuilding community ties post-COVID. They emphasize personal growth through involvement in organizations like AIGA and the collaborative nature of leadership.

Key Takeaways

• Victor has been involved with AIGA since 2011, serving in various leadership roles.
• Leadership retreats are crucial for building relationships and community.
• Being part of AIGA feels like an extension of teaching.
• Community support is essential for balancing multiple commitments.
• Networking at leadership retreats leads to lasting friendships.
• Victor’s leadership journey has significantly contributed to his personal growth.
• Creative Mornings and AIGA Orlando are platforms for community engagement.
• Memorable experiences at retreats shape the future of the design community. Unido was created to support the Spanish-speaking community.
• Changemakers events empower nonprofits through design work.
• Leadership retreats foster energy and new ideas for chapters.
• Community events help build connections across different chapters.
• Post-COVID, there’s a need to rebuild connections among chapters.
• Mentorship is crucial for supporting newer chapters.
• Personal growth is often linked to community involvement.
• Teamwork is essential in achieving leadership goals.
• AIGA provides a network that extends beyond local chapters.

Episode Chapters

01:06 Victor’s Leadership Journey in AIGA

03:33 The Role of Leadership Retreats

06:30 Building Community and Relationships

10:29 Balancing Multiple Commitments

15:22 The Impact of Community on Leadership

20:15 Memorable Moments from Leadership Retreats

23:42 The Birth of Unido and Changemakers

25:52 Empowering Nonprofits Through Design

27:23 The Impact of Leadership Retreats

30:06 Building Community Across Chapters

32:08 Rebuilding Connections Post-COVID

35:22 The Importance of Mentorship in Design

37:37 Personal Growth Through Community Involvement

40:59 The Power of Teamwork in Leadership

42:27 Inspiration and Commitment to Community

Featuring

• Guest Victor Davila, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this episode of Cheers & Tiers, hosts Erik Cargill and Rachel Elnar interview Wendy Quisenberry, a seasoned designer and AIGA leader. We discuss Wendy's journey in design leadership, her experiences with AIGA Seattle, and the importance of community in the design world. Wendy shares memorable events from her time as president of AIGA Seattle, her transition to starting her design studio, and her vision for revitalizing the design community in Seattle. The conversation highlights the significance of mentorship, collaboration, and the need for a supportive network among designers.

Key Takeaways

• Wendy Quisenberry has over 30 years of experience in design and brand development.
• She became involved with AIGA by volunteering and quickly rose to leadership positions.
• AIGA events can be impactful and inspiring, focusing on quality over quantity.
• Starting a design studio during a recession taught Wendy resilience and adaptability.
• Community is essential for designers, especially in a post-pandemic world.
• Wendy encourages younger designers to engage with AIGA for networking and support.
• Leadership roles in AIGA provide valuable experience and confidence.
• Wendy's studio, Q&A, reflects her commitment to design excellence.
• The happy hour initiative aims to reconnect the design community in Seattle.
• Wendy's personal experiences highlight the importance of mentorship in design.

Episode Chapters

01:42 Wendy's Journey with AIGA

10:10 Memorable Events in AIGA Seattle

14:19 Starting a Design Studio

18:09 The Importance of Community

22:13 Professional Growth through AIGA

30:26 Future Vision for AIGA Seattle

Featuring

• Guest Wendy Quesinberry, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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Rachel Elnar and Erik Cargill welcome Frances Yllana, a branding experience and community strategist, to this episode of Cheers & Tiers. Frances shares her journey with AIGA from the Dallas/Fort Worth chapter to her National involvement, discussing her leadership roles and the impact of community on her career. She reflects on her experiences at leadership retreats, the importance of writing for personal healing, and her involvement with Design for Democracy. Frances also talks about her transition to design operations and how AIGA has shaped her professional path and personal growth.

Key Takeaways

• Leadership roles in organizations like AIGA can significantly impact personal growth.
• Writing can serve as a therapeutic outlet and a way to connect with others.
• Design for Democracy showcases the role of design in civic engagement.
• Frances's journey illustrates the interconnectedness of design and community service.
• Leadership retreats provide valuable experiences that shape future leaders.
• The role of a leader is to empower others and create a supportive environment.
• Civic tech is an emerging field where design can make a significant impact.
• Frances's experiences highlight the importance of adaptability in leadership.
• AIGA serves as a vital network for designers, fostering connections and opportunities.

Episode Chapters

01:48 Frances's Journey with AIGA

10:07 Leadership Retreat Experiences

22:20 The Importance of Writing and Community

25:42 Design for Democracy and Civic Engagement

30:03 Transition to Design Operations

34:10 The Impact of AIGA on Personal Growth

Featuring

• Guest Frances Yllana, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this episode of Cheers & Tiers, hosts Erik Cargill and Rachel Elnar welcome Brian Singer, a San Francisco-based artist and designer known for his impactful projects that foster human connection and social change. The conversation delves into Brian’s journey in design leadership, his experiences with AIGA, and the memorable moments from leadership retreats. They discuss the Twitspotting project, the challenges of controversial art, and the importance of community in the design industry. Brian reflects on his transition from chapter leadership to national leadership and shares insights on building connections within the design community.

Key Takeaways

• Brian Singer is known for his bold projects that spark social change.
• The AIGA leadership retreats fostered strong community bonds among designers.
• Transitioning from complaining to taking action is crucial in leadership.
• Controversial art can provoke strong reactions and discussions.
• Building community is essential for effective leadership in design.
• Memorable experiences often happen outside of formal programming.
• Leadership requires understanding the constraints and challenges of the industry.
• Brian’s Twitspotting project highlighted distracted driving in a unique way.
• The design community thrives on collaboration and shared experiences.
• Networking at leadership retreats has lasting impacts on professional relationships.

Episode Chapters

02:59 Reminiscing About AIGA Leadership Retreats

06:08 Brian’s Journey into AIGA Leadership

08:57 The Twitspotting Project Explained

11:52 The Impact of Controversial Art

14:56 Community and Leadership Dynamics

17:56 Memorable After-Program Experiences

21:11 Building Community in Design

24:08 Transitioning from Chapter to National Leadership

26:50 Reflections on Leadership and Change

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• Guest Brian Singer, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this Cheers & Tiers episode, Ashleigh Axios shares her journey in design leadership, highlighting her extensive involvement with AIGA and the impact of community engagement on her career. She reflects on memorable experiences at leadership retreats, the importance of building trust within design communities, and the lessons learned from her leadership roles. Ashleigh also discusses the creation of the DotGov design conference and the significance of fostering connections among designers in government. The conversation emphasizes the value of giving back to the community and the personal growth that comes from such involvement. More about AIGA DC's DotGov: https://dc.aiga.org/dotgovdesign/

Key Takeaways

• Volunteering in design communities can lead to significant personal and professional growth.
• Leadership retreats provide opportunities for networking and sharing creative ideas.
• Building trust and vulnerability is essential in design communities.
• The DotGov design conference was created to connect government designers and share resources.
• Leadership roles in AIGA taught valuable management and negotiation skills.
• Community involvement can lead to lasting friendships and connections.
• The importance of succession planning in volunteer organizations.
• Design initiatives can have a significant impact on public services.
• Reflecting on experiences in design leadership can inspire future generations.

Episode Chapters

03:03 Community Engagement and Leadership in AIGA

05:56 Memorable Experiences at Leadership Retreats

08:58 Building Trust and Vulnerability in Design Communities

11:52 The Impact of AIGA on Personal and Professional Growth

15:00 Creating Initiatives: DotGov Design Conference

21:13 Lessons Learned from Leadership Roles

24:04 Reflections on Community and Future Engagement

Featuring

• Guest Ashleigh Axios, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Erik Cargill, connect on LinkedIn
• Host Rachel Elnar, connect on LinkedIn

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In this engaging conversation, Erik Cargill and Rachel Elnar explore the journey of Elysia Syriac, an experienced designer passionate about design operations and community engagement. They discuss her involvement with AIGA, the impact of mentorship, and the creative skateboard art project that raised funds for students with disabilities. The conversation also delves into the significance of leadership retreats in fostering connections and creating unforgettable experiences in the design community. In this conversation, the speakers reflect on their experiences at creative retreats, discussing the emotional highs and lows of returning to everyday life after such events. They share memorable moments, including fun activities like pyramid formations and karaoke, emphasizing the importance of community and connection within the design field. The discussion also touches on the significance of preserving design history and legacy, as well as the future of creativity and the role of designers in shaping the world.

Key Takeaways

• AIGA involvement can shape a designer's career trajectory.
• Mentorship programs can lead to significant community impact.
• Skateboard art projects foster creativity and community engagement.
• Leadership retreats provide invaluable networking opportunities.
• Unexpected moments can make events unforgettable.
• Documenting experiences adds value to participants.
• Collaboration enhances the quality of events.
• Creativity is essential in event planning.
• Community-driven initiatives can lead to meaningful change.
• Building connections is key to a vibrant design community. Returning from retreats can leave one feeling empty.
• The importance of having a community to share experiences with.
• Memorable moments from retreats often include fun activities and bonding.
• Pyramids have become an iconic activity at retreats.
• Leadership retreats provide valuable peer mentorship.
• AIGA fosters a sense of belonging among designers.
• Designers hold responsibility for how the world communicates.
• Preserving design history is crucial for future generations.
• Creativity is essential for moving culture and business forward.
• Celebrating the unique abilities of creatives is vital.

Episode Chapters

01:18 AIGA Involvement and Early Experiences

03:05 The Bordo Bello Skateboard Art Project

10:22 Leadership Retreat Experiences

20:07 Creating Unforgettable Events

23:50 The Highs and Lows of Retreats

28:07 Memorable Moments and Pyramids

33:56 The Importance of Community in Design

39:01 Preserving Design History and Legacy

39:55 The Future of Creativity and Community

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In this Cheers & Tiers conversation, Mike Joosse shares his extensive journey with AIGA, highlighting the pivotal role it played in his career and personal growth. He discusses with hosts Erik Cargill and Rachel Elnar his experiences at AIGA leadership retreats, the importance of community building in design, and how he applies the lessons learned from AIGA chapter to national leadership, to his current role at VML. The conversation emphasizes the significance of networking, the value of in-person connections, and the ongoing commitment to fostering a supportive creative community.

Key Takeaways

• AIGA has been instrumental in Mike's career development.
• Leadership retreats foster deep connections among design professionals.
• Community building is essential in the design industry.
• Maslow's hierarchy of needs applies to professional development.
• Mike emphasizes the importance of giving back to the community.
• In-person interactions create unique networking opportunities.
• Mike's role at VML focuses on connecting team members.
• The magic of leadership retreats lies in shared experiences.
• Mike aims to replicate AIGA's community spirit at VML.
• Building strong connections is vital for team cohesion.

Episode Chapters

04:59 Leadership Retreat Experiences and Insights

10:12 Community Building and Networking in Design

14:48 Maslow's Hierarchy of Needs in Design Leadership

20:09 Translating AIGA Lessons to VML

24:45 The Magic of In-Person Connections

30:01 Reflections on Community and Future Aspirations

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In this Cheers & Tiers conversation, David John Walker, a prominent art director and type designer, shares his journey through the design world, his involvement with AIGA and the Nashville chapter, and the evolution of design education. He discusses the importance of networking, community building, and the role of design in social change, particularly in light of recent events. David also reflects on his personal projects, the power of lettering, and the need for continued activism in the design community.

Key Takeaways

• Networking events are crucial for connecting with design leaders.
• Academia plays a vital role in sustaining AIGA's membership.
• Leadership retreats provide valuable opportunities for growth.
• Design can be a powerful tool for social change.
• David emphasizes the importance of community in design education.
• Lettering projects allow for personal expression and commentary.
• Apathy in the design community is unacceptable.
• David's work has been influenced by recent social movements.
• The design profession has evolved but still faces challenges.

Episode Chapters

03:13 David's Journey with AIGA
05:55 The Evolution of AIGA and Academia
08:59 Networking and Community Building in Design
11:47 Leadership Experiences and Their Impact
15:13 The Role of Design in Social Change
17:55 Current Projects and Future Aspirations
20:56 The Power of Lettering and Personal Expression
23:55 Reflections on Activism and Design

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In this episode of Cheers & Tiers, hosts Erik Cargill and Rachel Elnar talk with Paul Mendoza around his journey with AIGA Los Angeles, his experiences at AIGA leadership retreats, and how those experiences shaped his career path leading to his current role producing Amazon’s in-house design conference, Conflux. Paul shares stories about karaoke nights, after-parties (including the informal GayIGA gatherings), and the famous 6AM Club where designers would stay up all night talking about their lives and careers. Paul talks about his formative experiences at AIGA leadership retreats, particularly his first in Grand Rapids, Michigan in 2015, and recounts his show-stopping karaoke performance that made him instantly recognizable among AIGA leadership.

Key Takeaways

• Involvement in professional organizations can open unexpected career paths and connections.
• The most meaningful connections often happen during unstructured, after-hours events.
• Creating dedicated spaces for underrepresented communities builds stronger overall organizations.
• Communication skills are as important for designers as visual design abilities.
• Bringing joy and authenticity to professional settings improves the experience for everyone.
• Understanding local design communities and cultures creates more relevant programming.
• Coaching and mentoring early-career designers helps build confidence and future leaders.
• Vulnerability (like singing karaoke) can create instant connections in professional settings.
• Events that build community require both structured programming and space for organic interaction.
• Strong communities, like human pyramids, require solid foundations and mutual support.
• Professional development happens through both formal education and community involvement.
• Design leadership involves amplifying others' voices and helping them shine.
• Transferring skills between industries (TV writing to design conference production) creates unique value.

Episode Chapters

00:55 Paul's journey with AIGA, starting in 2013 as a student
02:27 Working on AIGA portfolio day and attending his first leadership retreat
04:26 Memories from the Grand Rapids leadership retreat
07:28 Paul's karaoke talents and creating memorable moments
10:29 The importance of singing and vulnerability in community building
11:17 The "6AM Club" and after-hours magic at leadership retreats
12:39 GayIGA gatherings and supporting queer businesses in North Carolina
16:18 Building human pyramids as a metaphor for leadership
20:35 How AIGA influenced Paul's work at Amazon's Conflux conference
22:13 The importance of local design communities and culture
24:19 Bringing joy to professional environments
25:45 Writing for live shows and coaching speakers
27:54 The importance of communication skills for designers

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