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Zero Signal
Conor Sherman
19 episodes
3 hours ago
Zero Signal is a high-energy podcast for cybersecurity leaders, co-hosted by Conor Sherman and Stuart Mitchell. It uniquely blends current events with in-depth conversations featuring seasoned security executives, thinkers, and builders. The podcast addresses critical questions regarding the future of cybersecurity in an AI-driven landscape, focusing on what works, what's broken, and what's next, particularly as AI redefines trust in the digital world.
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Zero Signal is a high-energy podcast for cybersecurity leaders, co-hosted by Conor Sherman and Stuart Mitchell. It uniquely blends current events with in-depth conversations featuring seasoned security executives, thinkers, and builders. The podcast addresses critical questions regarding the future of cybersecurity in an AI-driven landscape, focusing on what works, what's broken, and what's next, particularly as AI redefines trust in the digital world.
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Zero Signal
UltraViolet Cyber Acquisition of BlackDuck Service: Cyber M&A, Unified SecOps - ft Ira Goldstein

Episode Summary

In this episode, Ira Goldstein, Executive Chair and CEO of Ultraviolet Cyber, shares insights on the company's acquisition of Black Duck's application security testing business and explains how CISOs can drive value and manage risk during cybersecurity M&A.

Sponsors

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Guest Bio

Ira Goldstein is the Executive Chair and CEO of Ultraviolet Cyber and the Founder and CEO of Kernel Advisory. He has scaled global operations at Herjavec Group as SVP and COO. Ira also serves on boards, including Rogers CyberSecure Catalyst.

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/goldsteinira/

Website: https://www.uvcyber.com/

Episode Breakdown

00:00 Banter

02:33 Guest Introduction: Ira Goldstein

03:41 Exploring Cyber M&A Trends

10:57 The Role of Security Leaders in M&A

18:08 Ultraviolet Cyber's Acquisition of Black Duck

21:13 The Impact of AI on Code Quality

28:26 Navigating the Cybersecurity Market Landscape

31:09 Building Trust in Cybersecurity Partnerships

41:11 Monday Morning Advice for Security Leaders

44:25 Outro

Referenced Resources

  • BusinessWire: UltraViolet Cyber Acquires Black Duck’s Application Security Testing Services Business
  • UltraViolet Cyber: UltraViolet Cyber Acquires Black Duck’s Application Security Testing Services Business
  • Kroll: Cybersecurity Software Sector M&A Industry Insights – Summer 2025
  • Return on Security: Security Funded #214 – Services Roll-Ups & AI Consolidation
  • 4x Velocity, 10x Vulnerabilities: AI Coding Assistants Are Shipping More Risks

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5 days ago
44 minutes 55 seconds

Zero Signal
From CISO to VC: Investing in Performance - ft. Karl Mattson

Episode Summary

Karl Mattson shares his journey from CISO to venture investor, offering practical advice on what makes founders successful in cybersecurity and how AI is rapidly changing the field. If you want to understand career transitions and what it takes to thrive in today's security landscape, this episode gives you direct insights from someone who's done it all.

Sponsors

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→ Sysdig. Secure the cloud
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About the Guest

Karl Mattson is a cybersecurity leader turned venture investor, known for his journey from operating as a CISO at a bank to field CISO roles and now founding his own venture fund. He is recognized for his hands-on approach, deep industry insight, and commitment to backing exceptional founders in AI and security. Connect with Karl to follow his work and insights:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/karlmattson1/

Website: https://squaredcircle.vc/

Episode Chapters

00:00 The Journey to Venture Capital

05:01 Assessing Founders and Companies

08:40 The Role of AI in Security

16:22 Characteristics of Successful Startups

22:10 The CISO's Transition to Vendor Roles

30:39 The Reality of the CISO Role

33:08 AI's Impact on Security and Staffing

38:29 Advice for CISOs in a Rapidly Changing Environment

42:00 Embracing Strengths and Taking Risks

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1 week ago
44 minutes 45 seconds

Zero Signal
Atlas Browser, F5 Breach, and How to Measure Resilience

Episode Summary

In this episode, Conor and Stuart break down the risks of new tech like OpenAI's Atlas browser, the F5 source code breach, AWS outages, and deepfakes, showing you why resilience and clear risk management matter more than ever. You'll get practical advice on handling third- and fourth-party risk, understanding the real cost of outages, and preparing your business for today's cybersecurity threats.


Sponsors

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Episode Chapters

00:00 Banter

01:19 OpenAI's Atlas Browser

04:34 The Implications of F5 Source Code Theft

10:53 AWS Outage and Business Resilience

18:04 The Real Cost of Service Outages

23:42 The FTC's Stance on AI Marketing and Truthfulness

30:08 The Rise of Deepfakes and Their Implications

43:45 Actionable Insights for Business Leaders

45:16 Intro Long

Referenced Links & Resources

  • OpenAI Atlas Browser
  • Brave Research on Perplexity's Comet Browser
  • Google Mandiant M-Trends Report
  • FTC Operation AI Comply
  • Ironscales Deepfake Report
  • Darktrace
  • Sam Altman/AP Voiceprint Authentication Quote


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1 week ago
45 minutes 46 seconds

Zero Signal
Guardrails and Growth: AI's Impact on Security - ft Richard Bird

Episode Summary

In this episode, Richard Bird, Chief Information Security Officer at Singular AI, explains why the rush to adopt AI is creating new security risks and why getting the basics right is more important than ever. If you want to understand how AI is changing security and what you need to do about it, this conversation is essential.


Sponsors

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Guest Bio

Richard Bird is the Chief Information Security Officer at Singular AI and an industry veteran with over 30 years of experience. He has held key roles at JP Morgan, Chase, Ping Identity, and Traceable, and recently launched the podcast Yippee-ki-ai, focused on operationalizing AI in the real world. Connect with Richard on LinkedIn to follow his latest work and insights.


Episode Timestamps

00:00 The AI Adoption Crisis and API Security

11:41 Corporate Showmanship and the Reality of Layoffs

15:11 The Role of the Chief AI Officer: A Critical Examination

20:11 AI's Impact on Security Dynamics

26:10 The Dangers of AI in Security

30:50 Economic Sustainability of AI Technologies

41:40 AI Ethics: Real-World Implications

45:58 The Future of AI: Optimism and Caution

48:03 The Evolution of Security Landscape: AI's Role

52:08 Intro Long - Final.mp4


Referenced Thought Leaders & Articles

  • Ray Dalio (referenced for modeling rise and fall of empires)
  • Chase Cunningham (Dr. Zero Trust, referenced as a thought leader)
  • David Friedman article on AI economics (referenced for economic analysis of AI)


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2 weeks ago
52 minutes 37 seconds

Zero Signal
Navigating AI Governance - ft. Walter Haydock

Episode Summary

Walter Haydock shares practical strategies for navigating the complex landscape of AI governance, risk management, and compliance, especially in regulated sectors.


Sponsors

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Guest Bio

Walter Haydock is the Founder and CEO of StackAware, where he helps organizations operationalize AI governance through frameworks like ISO/IEC 42001 and the NIST AI RMF.

→ Connect with Walter on LinkedIn
→ Subscribe to his newsletter, Deploy Securely


Referenced Laws, Frameworks, and Papers

  • California Transparency and Frontier Artificial Intelligence Act
  • California AB 2013
  • SB53 California
  • California Consumer Privacy Act (CCPA)
  • New York City Local Law 144
  • ISO/IEC 42001
  • Colorado Artificial Intelligence Act
  • Unified Control Framework


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2 weeks ago
53 minutes 28 seconds

Zero Signal
OpenAI’s Agent Builder, Yale Budget Lab, Hiring and Mentorship - ft Jake Bernardes

Episode Summary

In this episode, Jake Bernardes, CISO at Anecdotes, joins to break down the risks and opportunities of OpenAI's AgentKit, vendor lock-in, and the real impact of AI on enterprise security and jobs.

Sponsors

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Guest Details

Jake Bernardes is the Chief Information Security Officer at Anecdotes, a top GRC platform.

  • LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/jakeleobernardes/

Referenced Links & Research

  • OpenAI: Introducing AgentKit+
  • Axios: The jobs crisis is bigger than AI
  • TechRadar: AI might not actually be killing off jobs like we thought
  • Yale Budget Lab: Evaluating the Impact of AI on the Labor Market
  • Challenger Gray: September Job Cuts Fall 37% from August
  • LockedInAI: 2025 AI Trends in US Job Markets
  • Sysdig: Shai Hulud: The Novel Self-Replicating Worm Infecting Hundreds of NPM Packages

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3 weeks ago
44 minutes 34 seconds

Zero Signal
The Importance of Purple Teaming in AI Security - ft. Disesdi Susanna Cox

Episode Summary

In this episode, AI architect and security researcher Disesdi Susanna Cox explains the vast and complex attack surface of AI systems, highlighting the need for new security approaches like purple teaming and MLSecOps. Her insights help security leaders understand the unique risks and ethical challenges of AI, making this a must-listen for anyone responsible for securing modern AI-driven organizations.


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About the Guest

Disesdi Susanna Cox is an AI architect, patent holder, and consulting security researcher recognized for her work with the OWASP AI Exchange. Her frameworks and research have been adopted globally to help organizations understand and address the evolving security landscape in AI. Connect with Susanna to follow her latest insights and contributions:

LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/disesdi/

Newsletter: https://disesdi.substack.com/

OWASP AI Exchange: https://owasp.org/www-project-ai-exchange/


Episode Breakdown

00:00 Navigating the AI Security Landscape

03:30 Understanding Adversarial Attacks in AI

06:06 The Importance of Purple Teaming in AI Security

08:49 Establishing MLSecOps for AI Systems

11:40 The Role of Chief AI Security Officer

13:03 Ethics and Risks of AI in Decision Making

26:07 The Future of Red Teaming in AI Security

35:33 Intro Long - Final.mp4


Referenced Resources

  • OWASP AI Exchange
  • Disesdi Substack: The Adversarial Subspace Problem
  • DO-178C (Guidance for Aerospace Software)


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4 weeks ago
36 minutes 2 seconds

Zero Signal
TTE Goes Negative, Job Redesign, Workslop, The Security Layer for MCP - ft Keith Hoodlet

Overview

Today's episode features Keith Hoodlet from Trail of Bits. We discuss how AI is rapidly accelerating both cyber threats and defenses, shrinking the time to exploit vulnerabilities and reshaping cybersecurity job requirements.


Sponsors

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Guest Bio

That was Keith Hoodlet, Engineering Director at Trail of Bits, former Code Security Architect at GitHub, and winner of the DoD’s inaugural AI Bias Bounty.

  • LinkedIn — Keith Hoodlet
  • Website — Trail of Bits
  • Newsletter — Secure.Dev


Referenced Links & Resources

  • CVE Genie
  • Hexstrike
  • Buttercup
  • Trail of Bits: MCP Security Layer
  • Google/Mandiant Threat Intelligence
  • The Skill Code by Matt Bean
  • Harvard Business Review: AI-Generated Workslop


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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes 2 seconds

Zero Signal
AI Revolutionizing Cybersecurity - ft. Clint Gibler

Quick Take (TL;DR)

AI is rapidly transforming cybersecurity, from automating penetration testing to reshaping how security teams and developers work. This episode examines the practical implications, risks, and future prospects of AI in security, offering actionable insights for leaders and practitioners.

 

Guest Spotlight

Clint Gibler is Head of Security Research at Semgrep, creator of the TLDRsec newsletter, and host of the Modern Security Podcast.

Connect:

  • LinkedIn — Clint Gibler
  • Newsletter — TLDRsec
  • Podcast — Modern Security Podcast

 

Key Topics & Timestamps

00:00 AI's Impact on Penetration Testing

03:19 The Future of Junior Pen Testers

05:42 Working with AI: A New Paradigm

10:31 Trusting AI Outputs

12:31 Shifting Down: A New Security Approach

15:20 Making Security Invisible for Developers

16:44 The Role of AI in Security and Development

19:04 Integrating Security into Vibe Coding

21:21 Human in the Loop: Balancing Automation and Oversight

23:04 Model Dependency and Cost Considerations

25:27 Emerging Security Risks in AI Infrastructure

29:41 Understanding Prompt Injection Challenges

31:05 Innovative Solutions in AI Security

32:28 Risks of Model Integration and Code Execution

34:14 Navigating AI Model Adoption in Organizations

34:42 The Future of AI in Security

38:52 Career Pathways in Cybersecurity

 

Resources & References

  • TLDRsec — Security newsletter by Clint Gibler
  • Modern Security Podcast — Hosted by Clint Gibler
  • Semgrep — Code analysis tool
  • OWASP Top 10 — Common web security risks
  • Google Project Zero — Security research team
  • DeepMind Camel Framework — AI agent separation
  • Socket — Supply chain security tool
  • Hugging Face — Model repository
  • Trail of Bits — Security research and tools
  • Building Secure and Reliable Systems — Google book on security
  • GitHubComplianceAsCode/content — Automating compliance

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1 month ago
43 minutes 21 seconds

Zero Signal
Frontier Risks: DeepMind, Agentic Systems, and Security Leadership ft. Jason Rebholz

Quick Take (TL;DR)

This episode explores the evolving risks and opportunities at the intersection of AI, security, and leadership, featuring insights from instant response veteran Jason Rebholz. The conversation highlights why AI safety and agentic systems matter for CISOs and security teams today.

 

Key Topics & Timestamps

 

  • (00:00) Banter
  • (03:39) Guest Introduction
  • (04:29) DeepMind’s Frontier Safety Framework
  • (06:11) Manipulative AI & Enterprise Risk
  • (07:53) Frontier vs. Enterprise Risk
  • (11:24) Early Signs & Real-World Impact
  • (14:25) Safety vs. Security
  • (16:16) Implementation Context
  • (18:06) Expel Talent Index
  • (22:08) What Makes a Great Security Pro?
  • (29:05) Good CISO, Bad CISO
  • (36:43) Memo to File
  • (38:03) Securing AI Agents
  • (44:49) Actionable Advice

 

Guest Spotlight

Jason Rebholz is the co-founder of Evoke Security and former CISO at Corvus Insurance. He previously led incident response at Mandiant, handling nation-state threats and major breaches. Jason is a leading voice on AI security, agentic systems, and practical risk management. Connect: LinkedIn | Website | Newsletter | Twitter/X

 

Resources & References

 

Books

  • Good CISO, Bad CISO by Phil Venables

 

Articles / Studies

  • DeepMind Frontier Safety Framework
  • Expel 2025 Talent Index
  • RAND Security Objectives
  • Weekend Byte Newsletter

 

Tools / Frameworks

  • RAND Security Objectives

 

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1 month ago
49 minutes 14 seconds

Zero Signal
What's our nuclear meltdown? Understanding Risk in the Age of AI ft. Sandy Dunn

Quick Take (TL;DR)

This episode examines how AI is transforming the cybersecurity landscape, with Sandy Dunn discussing why security leaders must reassess risk, trust, and business alignment in the era of agentic AI. Essential listening for anyone navigating the intersection of AI, security, and executive decision-making.


Guest Spotlight

Sandy Dunn is the Chief Information Security Officer (CISO) at SPLX, where she leads AI-driven security strategy and advises executive teams on risk and defense alignment. A 20-year cybersecurity veteran, Sandy is the creator and project leader of the OWASP Top 10 for LLM Applications and the GenAI Compass, and serves as an adjunct professor at Boise State University and board member at Agentic.org.

LinkedIn | SPLX | Agentic.org


Resources & References

Books

  • Thinking, Fast and Slow — Daniel Kahneman

Articles / Studies

  • OWASP Top 10 for LLM Applications
  • Security Programs and Business Value

Tools / Frameworks

  • OWASP GenAI Compass
  • AI Threat Defense Compass (upcoming)
  • NIST Cybersecurity Framework


Call to Action

If you found this episode useful, please share it and subscribe!

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1 month ago
37 minutes 3 seconds

Zero Signal
The AI Divide, Orphaned Agents, and Ransomware That Negotiates Back

AI is redrawing the economic map while vendors rush to “platformize” and attackers weaponize LLMs. Leaders must push for real platforms (shared data planes + policy layers), avoid “platform-in-name-only” lock-in, and prepare for agentic threats like PromptLock.

Key Topics & Timestamps

(00:00) Introduction — Why this week matters: AI divide, platformization reality check, agentic ransomware.

(02:10) Topic 1 — The AI Divide; Anthropic’s index shows productivity clustering in high-adoption regions; implications for hiring, policy, and multi-national execution.

(12:00) Topic 2 — Platformization & Consolidation; CrowdStrike–Pangea and Check Point–Lakera signal AI-security land grab; what “true platform” means; buyer guardrails.

(22:40) Topic 3 — PromptLock & Agentic Threats; ransomware that personalizes and negotiates; how to update IR/comms playbooks.

(31:30) Closing — Play offense: evidence-based platformization, workforce redesign, agentic blue-team prep.

Resources & References

Articles / Studies

  • Anthropic: Economic Index — global AI adoption & productivity
  • HR Grapevine: Zoom chief predicts three-day workweeks & role erosion
  • Wall Street Journal: CrowdStrike to buy AI security company Pangea
  • CyberScoop: Check Point to acquire Lakera for AI security
  • ESET / WeLiveSecurity: PromptLock ransomware uses ChatGPT/LLMs
  • AI Darwin Awards: Taco Bell drive-thru fiasco
  • Venture in Security (Ross Haleliuk): Consolidation & platformization essays | LinkedIn activity

Tools / Frameworks

NIST AI RMF — governance + risk controls: https://www.nist.gov/itl/ai-risk-management-framework

OWASP GenAI / LLM Top 10 — threat categories: https://genai.owasp.org/llm-top-10/

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1 month ago
40 minutes 40 seconds

Zero Signal
Navigating the Cybersecurity Economy ft. Mike Privette

Quick Take (TL;DR)

This episode examines the evolving cybersecurity economy, the impact of AI on security roles and investments, and why trust, adaptability, and community are more crucial than ever for security leaders.


Key Topics & Timestamps

  • (00:00) Introduction — Mike’s journey as the first security hire at a FinTech and the realities of building trust in security leadership.
  • (04:32) Security Leadership — Strategies for first-time CISOs, balancing technical depth with business needs, and the importance of level-setting expectations.
  • (08:36) The Cybersecurity Economy — Mike’s five-pillar framework: investment, government, regulation, labor market, and community.
  • (13:07) AI’s Impact — How AI is reshaping security investments, the rise of AI-enabled tools, and the explosion of red teaming for AI applications.
  • (20:09) Evolving Roles — The growing importance of AI governance, the dual mandate for CISOs, and the enduring need for fundamentals like authentication and identity.
  • (34:34) Mike’s advice on building a personal brand, sharing experiences.
  • (41:27) The future of Return on Security.
  • (43:44) Closing


Guest Spotlight

Mike Privette is the founder of Return on Security, recognized as the industry’s first cybersecurity economist. He’s known for his in-depth analysis of funding trends, M&A, and the shifting landscape of security and AI. Mike’s work has been featured at B-Sides and followed by thousands of industry leaders.

Connect with Mike: LinkedIn | Newsletter.


Resources & References

Articles / Studies

  • Mike’s annual cybersecurity funding reports: Return on Security Newsletter


Tools / Frameworks

  • AI Red Teaming (general concept, not a specific tool)
  • Mike’s Five-Pillar Cybersecurity Economy Framework (investment, government, regulation, labor, community)


Call to Action

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1 month ago
44 minutes 29 seconds

Zero Signal
Talent Shifts, Safer AI, and the Jobs Cooldown

Summary

In this episode, Conor Sherman and Stuart Mitchell discuss the evolving landscape of education, job markets, and AI regulation. They explore the implications of Gen Z's shifting attitudes towards college, the impact of AI on job security, and the recent endorsement of AI safety legislation by Anthropic. The conversation also delves into the current job market trends, the integration of AI in security teams, and the alarming advancements in exploit development through tools like CVE Genie.

 

Articles

  • Axios: Gen Z still choosing college despite AI anxieties
  • PBS NewsHour: Why many in Gen Z are ditching college for training in skilled trades
  • Axios: Jobs data shows hiring momentum slowdown
  • Moneywise: US has more unemployed than job openings for first time since 2021
  • TechCrunch: Anthropic endorses California’s AI safety bill SB-53
  • Anthropic: Anthropic is endorsing SB-53
  • OpenAI blog: Why language models hallucinate
  • OpenAI paper PDF: Why Language Models Hallucinate

 

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1 month ago
39 minutes 16 seconds

Zero Signal
AGI and Employment: A Double-Edged Sword ft Daniel Miessler

Quick Take (TL;DR)

Daniel Miessler, cybersecurity veteran and creator of Unsupervised Learning, explores the future of work in an AI-driven world—why the ideal number of employees might be zero, and what that means for society, security, and meaning.

Key Topics & Timestamps

  • (00:00) Introduction
  • (02:00) Defining AGI
  • (07:00) Zero-Employee Ideal
  • (13:00) Security in an AI Economy
  • (18:45) Meaning Crisis
  • (35:36) Optimism & Opportunity
  • (40:05) Closing

Guest Spotlight

Daniel Miessler is a cybersecurity expert, writer, and creator of the Unsupervised Learning newsletter and podcast.

Connect: LinkedIn | Website | Newsletter | Twitter/X

Resources & References

Books

  • The Innovator’s Dilemma
  • Star Trek and Philosophy

Articles / Studies

  • AI-Generated Code Vulnerabilities
  • Animatrix

Tools / Frameworks

  • GitHubdanielmiessler/fabric
  • GitHubdanielmiessler/t-lios

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1 month ago
44 minutes 47 seconds

Zero Signal
Back to School, Back to Basics: AI, Coding, and Security Fundamentals

Conor Sherman and Stuart Mitchell dive into the intersection of AI, coding, security, and leadership. They discuss the “September Surge” in hiring, the evolving role of AI in software development, and the critical need for strong security fundamentals as organizations accelerate their adoption of AI technologies. The conversation covers the risks and rewards of AI-driven coding, the responsibilities of security teams, and the importance of leadership and organizational change in navigating this new landscape.

Key Topics Covered

  • The “back to school” energy in the hiring market and what it means for tech teams
  • How AI is shifting from an option to a directive in technology strategy
  • Balancing speed and security: the risks of increased code output from AI assistants
  • The fundamentals of security and why they matter more than ever
  • The human element in AI leadership and organizational change
  • Real-world risks: prompt injection, agentic browsers, and exposed LLM servers
  • Adapting security controls for AI with frameworks like NIST’s COSAIS

Featured Links & Resources

4x Velocity, 10x Vulnerabilities: AI Coding Assistants Are Shipping More Risks: Read the Apiiro blog

Sysdig 2025 Cloud-Native Security Report. Read the Sysdig report

Cisco: Detecting Exposed LLM Servers (Ollama/Shodan Study). Read the Cisco blog

Brave Research: Indirect Prompt Injection in Perplexity Comet: Read the Brave blog

NIST CSRC: Control Overlays for Securing AI Systems (COSAIS) – Concept Paper: Read the NIST concept paper

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1 month ago
38 minutes

Zero Signal
Challenging Trust in AI Systems ft Keith Hoodlet

Quick Take (TL;DR)

LLMs don’t think—they predict. Keith Hoodlet shows what this means for CISOs facing bias, slopsquatting, MCP risks, and burnout.

Guest Spotlight

Keith Hoodlet is Engineering Director at Trail of Bits. He previously led at GitHub and Rapid7, co-founded Application Security Weekly, and launched the InfoSec Mentors Project.

LinkedIn | Website | Newsletter

Resources & References

Books

  • AI Snake Oil
  • Four Thousand WeeksArticles / Studies
  • Marine Corps Times
  • 2025 Cloud‐Native Security and Usage Report
  • The Register: SlopsquattingTools / Frameworks
  • Model Context Protocol
  • NVIDIA NeMo Guardrails
  • Meta Llama Guard

Call to Action

If this episode reshaped how you think about AI security, share it. Connect with your hosts:

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2 months ago
48 minutes 9 seconds

Zero Signal
AI Ethics and Global Standards ft. Olivia Phillips

Quick Take (TL;DR)

AI is rapidly transforming cybersecurity, demanding new frameworks for trust, leadership, and risk. Olivia Phillips shares why integrating security and ethics from the ground up is essential as organizations re-platform for an AI-driven future.

 

Guest Spotlight

Olivia Phillips is Vice President and US Chapter Chair of the Global Council of Responsible AI and founder of Wolf by Technology. With over 20 years in cybersecurity, she began in malware analysis and forensics and is now a leading voice on AI ethics, risk, and leadership. Connect with Olivia on LinkedIn.

 

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2 months ago
33 minutes 43 seconds

Zero Signal
The Role of CISOs in AI Innovation ft. Ashish Rajan

In this conversation, Ashish Rajan, the founder of TechRiot.io discusses the evolving landscape of AI security, emphasizing the challenges faced by security leaders as AI technologies rapidly advance. He highlights the need for CISOs to balance innovation with security, the importance of trust in AI systems, and the frameworks that can guide organizations in navigating these changes. The discussion also covers the layered security approach necessary for AI applications and the role of human oversight in AI decision-making.


Takeaways

  • AI is transforming the security landscape, creating new risks.
  • CISOs must adapt to rapid changes in technology and security.
  • Trust in AI is built on transparency and reliability.
  • Organizations need to establish frameworks for AI governance.
  • Human oversight is essential in AI decision-making processes.
  • Authorization remains a significant challenge in cybersecurity.
  • The pace of AI adoption is faster than previous technological shifts.
  • Security hygiene is crucial to prevent incidents.
  • AI's integration into business processes requires careful management.
  • Collaboration across departments is vital for effective AI governance.

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2 months ago
36 minutes 7 seconds

Zero Signal
Zero Signal is a high-energy podcast for cybersecurity leaders, co-hosted by Conor Sherman and Stuart Mitchell. It uniquely blends current events with in-depth conversations featuring seasoned security executives, thinkers, and builders. The podcast addresses critical questions regarding the future of cybersecurity in an AI-driven landscape, focusing on what works, what's broken, and what's next, particularly as AI redefines trust in the digital world.