In this episode of The Your Behaviour Gal Podcast, Nicole Shallow takes you behind the scenes of her past year, a season of growth, grit, and grace. From late-night reflections to big “aha!” moments at the Living in Balance seminar, Nicole shares how she learned to put herself back on the list.
Tune in as she opens up about the real-life juggle of motherhood and business ownership, the small daily shifts that transformed her health, and the mentors who helped her find clarity and confidence along the way. This episode is equal parts reflection and celebration, a reminder that when you prioritize yourself, everything else starts to align.
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In this episode, Nicole Shallow sits down with Leanne Page, M.Ed., BCBA, to talk about compassionate caregiving, especially for behavior analysts who are also parents. They explore what compassion really means, how to practice self-compassion, and how personal values shape the way we parent and support others. The conversation dives into balancing professional and personal roles, emotional regulation, and the influence of social media on parenting expectations.
Leanne shares insights from her work with Parenting with ABA and offers practical tools for both caregivers and professionals. Together, she and Nicole highlight that compassion is not just empathy; it is empathy plus action. They discuss how even five minutes of focused attention can strengthen a parent-child connection, and how modeling self-compassion helps children build emotional awareness and resilience.
Key takeaways include: self-compassion is a skill we can develop, BCBA parents often face unique challenges, it is important to recognize the emotional weight of parenting, building therapeutic relationships starts with asking caregivers how they are, and values-driven parenting matters more than perfection.
Resources mentioned in this episode:
The Calm & Connected Journal for Moms (kids version coming soon): https://parenting-with-aba.myshopify.com/products/the-calm-connected-journal
Compassionate Parent Training Workbook and professional downloads: https://parenting-with-aba.myshopify.com/collections/resources-for-professionals
Free Self-Compassionate Practitioner Worksheet: https://www.parentingwithaba.org/self-compassionate-practitioner-2/
CARES Framework for Structuring Parent Training Sessions: https://www.parentingwithaba.org/cares-framework/
Leanne Page, M.Ed., BCBA, is the founder of Parenting with ABA, an author, and a leader in compassionate parent training. Her work helps families and professionals bridge the gap between behavioral science and everyday connection through empathy, flexibility, and action.
What does self-care really mean for behavior analysts? In this episode, I sit down with Daniela Galvez Moreno to explore how our field can move beyond “burnout culture” and create a healthier, more balanced way of practicing. Daniela shares her vision of redefining behavior analytic culture—where self-care is not optional, but foundational to ethical and sustainable practice.
Together, we:
Reflect on the idea of non-negotiables—what’s worked, what hasn’t, and where we’re still growing
Explore present-moment awareness and the mindset shifts that support balance
Discuss the often-overlooked role of hormones, nutrition, relationships, and time in sustaining well-being
Highlight how cultural change in ABA can ripple into healthier, more values-aligned work for all
If you’ve ever felt the tension between giving your best to clients and taking care of yourself, this conversation offers both validation and practical strategies.
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In the inaugural episode of the Your Behavior Gal podcast, host Nicole Shallow introduces herself and her mission to explore the intersection of sleep, behavior analysis, and compassion. She shares her personal journey with sleep struggles and emphasizes the importance of understanding sleep as a complex issue that goes beyond simple solutions. Nicole aims to provide valuable insights for behavior analysts, parents, and professionals, encouraging a holistic approach to sleep support that considers individual circumstances and promotes well-being.takeaways