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The Mockingcast
Mockingbird
285 episodes
1 day ago
The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl, and brought to you by Mockingbird Ministries, an organization which seeks to connect the Christian faith with the realities of everyday life in fresh and down-to-earth ways. You can find out more about Mockingbird at www.mbird.com. Audio production provided by TJ Hester.
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The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl, and brought to you by Mockingbird Ministries, an organization which seeks to connect the Christian faith with the realities of everyday life in fresh and down-to-earth ways. You can find out more about Mockingbird at www.mbird.com. Audio production provided by TJ Hester.
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Episodes (20/285)
The Mockingcast
Episode 285: A Beautiful Day to Yell at God

In which RJ, Sarah and Dave talk intentional everything, morbid curiosity, Methodist exorcists, and Hollywood epiphanies. Also, Sarah praises her favorite horror film, while the boys gush about Task.

  • Click here to register for our Fall Conference in Charlottesville, VA (11/14&15)
  • Click here to read When Did Everything Become So ‘Intentional’? by Marie Solis in the NY Times
  • Click here to read The Perks of Morbid Curiosity by Coltan Scrivener in The Atlantic
  • Click here to read "Exponents of Falsehood" by Jason Micheli on Mbird
  • Click here to listen to the Mcast episode Sarah mentions, "What Am I Gonna Do About the Demons?"
  • Click here to read the interview with Anthony Hopkins in the NY Times
  • Click here to read "It's a Beautiful Day to Yell at God" by Sarah Condon on Mbird
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1 day ago
1 hour 1 minute 59 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 284: The Telephone of Life

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk painless tattoos, workaholic scripts, sloppy social media, and Japanese lifesavers. Also, Sarah gets down with a theater full of fifth graders before singing with church full of Norwegians. Closing music courtesy of Voice of Joy.

  • Click here for more details about -- or to register for -- the Fall Mbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA (11/14&15).
  • Click here to read in the Atlantic about how "People Are Getting Tattoos Under Anesthesia."
  • Click here to watch the short film, Beneath the Ink.
  • Click here to read "If I Work Harder, Will You Love Me?" by Arthur Brooks in the Atlantic.
  • Click here to read "We Are the Slop" by Freya India in the After Babel newsletter.
  • Click here to read Dave's piece "Grace in a Time of Line-Drawing and Statement-Making" on Mbird.
  • Click here to read about "The Pastor Who Rescues People from Japan’s ‘Suicide Cliff’" by Kazusa Okaya in Christianity Today.
  • Click here to find out more about Voice of Joy, the Norwegian gospel choir Sarah mentions who also close the show.
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3 weeks ago
1 hour 4 minutes 32 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 283: The Ol' Telling the Truth Trick

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk silent retreats, repentant writing, alien mercy, and Hallmark movies. Also, RJ goes Confucian while Dave spitballs a new kind of Dry January.

  • Click here to read Ben Brasch's article "Silent Retreats Are Surging in Popularity" in the Washington Post.
  • Click here to read Lauren Jackson's newsletter on "The Pscyhological Value of Repentance" in the NY Times.
  • Click here to read Sarah's "Grace in an Age of Vengeance" on Mbird.
  • Click here to read Ashley Hales's interview with Elizabeth Bruenig in Christianity Today, "Alien Mercy."
  • Click here to read Elizabeth Bruenig's lengthy essay "Witness" in The Atlantic.
  • Click here to read Matt Metevelis's piece on Mbird "The Gospel Is Not Your Happy Ending."
  • Click here for more information about, or to pre-register for, the Fall Mbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA (Nov 14&15).
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1 month ago
1 hour 4 minutes 55 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 282: Do It Afraid

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk predatory advice-giving, suspicious mission statements, unloving algorithms, and atoning physicians. Also, Dave's son wins a big award.

  • Click here to read Russell Shaw's article in the Atlantic, "When Your Kid’s Best Friend Is a Great Big Problem."
  • Click here to read the NY Times interview with Brene Brown.
  • Click here to read NBW's "Sufficiently Suspicious" newsletter.
  • Click here to read "Excuses, Excuses" by Sam Bush on Mbird.
  • Click here to read "A Family Doctor's Search for Salvation" in the New Yorker.
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1 month ago
1 hour 3 minutes

The Mockingcast
Episode 281: Fluffy Pens and Perfectionist Pain

In the season premiere, RJ, Sarah and Dave talk nightmare summers, tween retailers, ethical checklists, and the deadliest addiction of all. We also learn the whole point of Sarah.

Click here to read Dave's post on "Lessons from a (Miserable) Summer on Crutches".
Click here to read Ellen Cushing's "What Claire's Once Gave Tween Girls" on The Atlantic.
Click here to read "The Pain of Perfectionsism" by Leslie Jamison on The New Yorker.
Click here to read "Bad Brains" by James Kimmel Jr on Slate.
Click here to read "Jesus Doesn't Care When You Wake Up" by Todd Brewer on Mbird.
Click here for more details -- or to pre-register -- for the Fall Mockingbird Conference in Charlottesville, VA (Nov 14&15).

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2 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 16 seconds

The Mockingcast
Bonus Episode: "The Hawaiian Shirt Guy at at Wedding" from Terrible Parables

Mockingcasters looking for something to listen to while the crew is on summner hiatus, look no further! We're cross-posting the first episode of the new season of our Terrible Parables podcast, "The Hawaiian Shirt Guy at a Wedding" in which long time Mockingbird contributors Cali Yee, Todd Brewer and Bryan Jarrell parse the parable of the Wedding Banquet that Jesus tells in Matthew 22:1-14.

  • Listen to more episodes of Terrible Parables on Spotify
  • Listen to more episodes of Terrible Parables on Apple
  • Click here to order a copy of the Law & Gospel issue of The Mockingbird Magazine
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3 months ago
48 minutes 37 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 279: We Are All Nepo Babies

In their last episode before the summer hiatus, RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk afternoon pop-ins, cigarette nostalgia, do-gooder derogation, and rejected generations. Also, RJ watches Cobra Kai while Sarah's son (thankfully) opts not to take over the world.

To respond to the opening appeal, visit www.mbird.com/support.

  • Click here to read Patricia Shannon's column, "Let's Bring Back the Lost Art of the Afternoon Visit" in Southern Living
  • Click here to read Vox's Future Perfect newsletter about do-gooder derogation by Sigal Samuel
  • Click here to read David Brooks' article "We Are the Most Rejected Generation" in the NY Times
  • Click here to read "Nepo Babies and the Economy of Grace" by Chris Wachter on Mbird

The closing song, used with permission, is "Miracle Service" by Andy Squyres, which you can find on Spotify, YouTube, and Apple

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5 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 11 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 278: Big Joe Breaks the Silence

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk marketing trauma, cultural decline, and the pluses and minuses of the silent treatment. Also, Sarah goes on a date to WalMart, while RJ tries real hard to be the shepherd.

  • Click here to read Ellen Cushing's article "The Brands Are Very Sorry About Your Trauma."
  • Click here to read Is This the Worst-Ever Era of American Pop Culture? by Spencer Kornhaber.
  • Click here to read "Deafening Silence" by Sam Bush on Mbird.
  • Click here to read David Marchese's interview with Ocean Vuong in the NY Times.
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5 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 26 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 277: The Big Relief of a Good Dishwasher

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk Pope Francis, dirty dishes, eternal life, and Dave's new book, The Big Relief. Also, RJ bleeds in the pulpit while Sarah takes us to the alley.

  • Click here to listen to (and watch) Gregory Porter sing "Take Me to the Alley".
  • Click here to read Ellen Cushing's "There Are Two Types of Dishwasher People" in the Atlantic.
  • Click here to read "The Work of Small Talk" from the Oliver Bateman Does the Work substack.
  • Click here to order Dave's book, The Big Relief: The Urgency of Grace for a Worn-Out World.
  • Click here to listen to the interview that RJ mentions (Dave on Give + Take with Scott Jones). Or here to watch it.
  • Click here to read Bryan Jarrell's piece, "Eternal Life Is Not Embarrassing" on Mbird.
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6 months ago
1 hour 14 minutes 2 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 276: Love Has a Million Disguises (But Winning Is Simply Not One)

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk comic marriages, unruly kids, brainwashed Christians and Lenten props. Also, RJ recounts his favorite ever baptism while Sarah revises her opinion of frozen margaritas.

  • Click here to register for the NYC Conference.
  • Click here to pre-register Dave's new book, The Big Relief.
  • Click here to read Olga Khazan's article about "What Comedians Know About Staying Married".
  • Click here to watch Conan O'Brien's acceptance speech for the Mark Twain Award.
  • Click here to read "In Praise of Unruly Children in Church" by Phil Christman in The Christian Century.
  • Click here to read "It's Always the Other Side That's Brainwashed" by Nikhil Krishnan in The New Yorker.
  • Click here to read Ben Maddison's article on "The Dangers of Prop Comedy" on Mbird.

Episode title courtesy of Jon Guerra's song "Citizens", used with permission.

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6 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes 27 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 275: Whereupon He Flipped Me the Bird

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk trend fatigue, athletic nepotism, and toxic preconditions. Also, RJ ponders South Korean babies while Sarah balks at a decision-making expert's decision.

  • Click here to register for the upcoming Mbird Conference in New York City (5/1-3)
  • Click here to read Callie Holtermann's "Too Many Trends!" in The New York Times
  • Click here to read about LeBron James and the Limits of Nepotism in The Atlantic
  • Click here to read Oliver Burkeman's newsletter about "Toxic Preconditions"
  • Click here to read "The Last Decision by the World’s Leading Thinker on Decisions" by Jason Zweig in the Wall Street Journal
  • Click here to read David Clay's "A Mercy Hidden in Judgment"
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7 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 24 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 274: Donuts for Lent

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk gracious dermatology, religious resurgence, endemic narcissism, and alto harmonies. Also, Sarah sings some spirituals while RJ watches some cows.

  • Click here to read "Dr Pimple Popper Knows You Can't Look Away" by Eve Peyser
  • Click here to read Ruth Graham's report on how Christianity’s Decline in U.S. Appears to Have Halted in the NY Times
  • Click here to read Tony Robinson's post "Getting Over Ourselves" on Mbird
  • Click here to read NBW's substack "Nobody Is Doing This Right (Except Me)"
  • Click here to read "Singing Myself Back to Life" by Susan Swetnam in Commonweal

The closing song is "I See the Birds" by Jon Guerra. Used with permission. Click here to purchase on Apple or here to purchase on Bandcamp, or here to listen on Spotify.

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7 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 53 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 273: The Kingdom of God Comes to Death Row

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk relationship recessions, trustafarian guilt, providential nuns, and revitalized churches. Also, Sarah throws a Galentine's party for the ages.

  • Click here to order a copy of the Holy Spirit issue of The Mockingbird, or here to subscribe to the magazine
  • Click here to register for our upcoming NYC Conference (5/1-3)
  • Click here to read about America's 'Marriage Material' Shortage in The Atlantic
  • Click here to read Elizabeth Callen's piece "Dying Alone?" on Mbird
  • Click here to read New York Magazine's profile of "People With Parents With Money"
  • Click here to read Lawrence Wright's essay about "The Nuns Trying to Save the Women on Texas's Death Row" in The New Yorker
  • Click here to read "Stirring Up Hope" by Paul Zahl on Mbird
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8 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes 55 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 272: Running Toward the Ick

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk attention wars, inner critics, and middle school drama teachers. Also, RJ learns what HALT stands for, while Sarah gets her playdates mixed up.

  • Click here to learn more about (or order!) the Holy Spirit Issue of The Mockingbird
  • Click here to watch_ The Turnaround_
  • Click here to read "You're Being Aliented From Your Attention" by Chris Hayes
  • Click here to read Rhik Samadder's article about The Ick in The Guardian
  • Click here for "People Lash Out When They're Sad" by Heather Havrilesky, via Ask Polly
  • Click here to read The False Gospel of Our Inner Critic" by Steve Cuss in Christianity Today
  • Click here to read "You Can't Choose Your Grace" by Ben Fort on Mbird
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9 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 51 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 271: The Trapdoor of Grace

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk diminished partying, fearful motivations, radical saints, and the difference between spells and prayers. Also, Sarah shares what will happen when all the yards are finally mowed.

  • Click here for more details about our Spring Conference in NYC (5/1-3)
  • Click here to pre-order Dave's new book, The Big Relief
  • Click here to read Oshan Jarow's newsletter about mediation for Vox.
  • Click here to read about Americans Need to Party More by Ellen Cushing in The Atlantic.
  • Click here to read Elizabeth Kolbert's essay in The New Yorker, "Does One Emotion Rule All Our Ethical Judgments?"
  • Click here to read James Parker's piece on "The Saint America Needs Right Now."
  • Click here to read "Spells and Prayers" by Alan Jacobs on Mbird.
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9 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes 19 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 270: Planes, Trains, and Miracles

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk peak reviewing, Martha Stewart's redemption, and Vietnamese recovery. Also, Spotify brings Dave full circle while Sarah uncovers a lost monologue from an 80s classic.

  • Click here to read "Whatever You Do, Don't Review This" by Eric Taub in the NY Times.
  • Click here to read Belle Tindall's "What Spotify Wrapped Really Tells Us About Ourselves" on Seen & Unseen.
  • Click here to read Elizabeth Bernstein's column on "The Micropolitics of Family Gift Giving" in the WSJ.
  • Click here to read about "Martha Stewart and the Pursuit of Perfection" on Mbird, courtesy of Sam Bush.
  • Click here to read "Finding Sobriety--and Jesus--in Vietnam's Christian Rehabs" by Angela Lu Fulton in CT.
  • Click here to read Mbird's list of Favorite Christmas Movies.
  • Click here to listen to Sarah C's recent sermon, "The Tragic Gap of Advent."
  • Click here to read the original script for Trains, Planes, and Automobiles. The scene Sarah references is on pages 119-122.

Finally, click here to give a yearend gift to Mockingbird. We'll be back in mid-January!

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10 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes 22 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 269: A Crisis of Gratitude

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk prepositional gratitude, backfiring fatalism, overgrown cemeteries, and lighthearted Advents. Also, RJ expounds on the benefits of bumblefat.

Click here to respond to the opening appeal and support Mockingbird this year-end!

  • Click here to read Joshua Rothman's essay in The New Yorker, "Why Is Gratitude So Difficult?"
  • Click here to read Bryan Jarrell's piece for Mbird on "Gold Medal Gratitude".
  • Click here to read Jeneen Interlandi's NY Times op-ed, "We Tire Very Quickly of Being Told Everything's on Fire."
  • Click here to read Cara Buckley's piece about the Rewilding of America's Cemeteries.
  • Click here to watch the Instagram videos of Robin Rosenthal and her family that Sarah mentions.
  • Click here to Garrison Keillor's substack about "Walking to Church On a Cold Day".
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11 months ago
1 hour 5 minutes 39 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 268: Loving the Hell Out

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk post-election uncertainty, grieving non-grandparents, digital self-worth, and the bondage of the will. Also, Dave shares an important new use for q-tips.

  • Click here to read Adam Grant's op-ed in the NY Times, "If You’re Sure How the Next Four Years Will Play Out, I Promise: You’re Wrong".
  • Click here to read Dave's post-election round-up on Mbird.
  • Click here to read Catherine Pearson's article on "The Unspoken Grief of Never Becoming a Grandparent".
  • Click here to read Thea Lim's essay in The Walrus, "The Collapse of Self-Worth in the Digital Age".
  • Click here to read Amy Mantravadi's Mbird column on "(Post-) Election Day Hope".
  • Click here to order a copy of Amy's novel Broken Bonds.
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11 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 36 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 267: Redemption Is Better Than Perfection

In which RJ, Sarah, and Dave talk vibes, clutter, high school bullies, and fortunate falls. Also, Sarah contemplates Elvis, while RJ comes to terms with his uncoolness.

  • Click here to read Kyle Edward Williams piece on Vibes in the Hedgehog Review.
  • Click here to read Matt Alt's essay on The Joy of Clutter for Aeon.
  • Click here Simeon Ellin's piece for Buzzfeed about Tracking Down the Girls Who Bullied Her As a Kid.
  • Click here to read Will McDavid's post on Mbird, "Bridesmaids Revisited."
  • Click here to read Karen Swallow Prior's newsletter about George Herbert's shape-poem "Easter Wings."
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1 year ago
1 hour 2 minutes 58 seconds

The Mockingcast
Episode 266: Reintroducing the Mockingcast

Recorded in front of an audience in Tyler, TX, Sarah and Dave do their best to explain the What and Why of The Mockingcast. Think of it as a rare peek behind the curtain as well as a perfect jumping on point for new listeners. Also, Sarah spills some serious tea about a presidential funeral.

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1 year ago
49 minutes 2 seconds

The Mockingcast
The Mockingcast is a bi-weekly podcast hosted by RJ Heijmen, Sarah Condon and David Zahl, and brought to you by Mockingbird Ministries, an organization which seeks to connect the Christian faith with the realities of everyday life in fresh and down-to-earth ways. You can find out more about Mockingbird at www.mbird.com. Audio production provided by TJ Hester.