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The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
The Dinnernet Podcast
25 episodes
5 days ago
Seattle food writers Meg van Huygen (The Stranger, Seattle Met, others) and Mark DeJoy (Eater Seattle, The Ticket, others) chop it up each week with guests from the PNW food and beverage industry, including chefs, restaurant owners, bartenders, GMs, farmers, vintners, brewers, distillers, baristas, and more. New episode every Thursday!
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Seattle food writers Meg van Huygen (The Stranger, Seattle Met, others) and Mark DeJoy (Eater Seattle, The Ticket, others) chop it up each week with guests from the PNW food and beverage industry, including chefs, restaurant owners, bartenders, GMs, farmers, vintners, brewers, distillers, baristas, and more. New episode every Thursday!
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The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep 25: In-Cider Trading with Emily Ritchie

The Northwest Cider Association’s executive director, Emily Ritchie, is in town from Portland, fresh on the heels of the 2025 Cider Cup Awards! We sat down with her to learn about why Washington leads the nation in both apple and cider production, then dig into the juicy details on what makes a cider competitor-level. Plus Meg’s dreaming of a Jurassic Park for apples, Mark's shipping off to Big Apple country, and we get apple-cheeked on this year's Cider Cup winners—one of which is a perry! 🍎🍐


Check out the Northwest Cider Association

Follow Northwest Cider Association on Instagram


Mentioned in this episode:

Empyrical Cider

Press Then Press Cider Shop

Schilling Cider

Kingston

Greenwood Cider

Bauman’s Cider Company

Little Beast

Radiator Whiskey

Schooner Street

Gol Mok

Cockrell Cider Farm

Community Grocery

Field Bar

Mezzanotte

Musang

South Lake Union Market

Nata Seattle

The Masonry


00:00 Intro

03:29 NW Cider Award Winners

08:26 PNW is a Cider Mecca

23:10 This Week’s Restaurant News

32:43 Trends in Cider

36:45 Emily’s Cider Origin Story

40:35 Thanks, I Ate It

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3 months ago
51 minutes 43 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep24: Ferment About It with Michelle Pogostkin and Jaimon Westing

Fermentation gurus Michelle Pogostkin and Jaimon Westing join us to talk vinegars, misos, garums, and more. We learn about Michelle’s anthropology background, her fermentation lab internship at the legendary Copenhagen restaurant Noma, and how those experiences inspired her to start Symbiotic Cultures—their retail line of bottled/jarred koji-based ferments.

We also talk about how the lessons Jaimon learned as a young, fast-rising chef inform his approach today with Amino—the monthly (-ish) dinner pop-up that balances ancient fermentation techniques with modernist cooking—and how Jaimon and Michelle met and began their partnership. (Not, it turns out, as passing ships in the night at Noma, where they both worked within months of one another!)

Plus Mark and Meg lay off the workahol just long enough to get to a few great restaurants and tell you all about them.

Check out Symbiotic Cultures

Follow Symbiotic Cultures on Instagram

Follow Amino on Instagram


Mentioned in this episode:

Nell’s

Marvel Food & Deli 

Oyster Cellar

Human People Beer Café 


La Maria

Taurus Ox

Single Shot

Cornelly

Saars

The Penalty Box

Portland Syrups

Cheeky & Dry

Blue Beard

Glo’s

Ba Sa

Fainting Goat

El Maestro del Taco

Layers


00:00 Intro

6:00 What is Amino?

16:08 Noma

24:05 Meg’s Treat

30:15 This Week’s Restaurant News

37:23 Pop-up Vs. Permanent Location

50:43 Symbiotic Cultures Products Tasting

1:06:27 Amino Dinners

1:10:18 Thanks, I Ate It

1:28:31 Coming Up Next


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3 months ago
1 hour 30 minutes 52 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep23: Punky Brew Star with Gray Kauffman

Competitive barista Gray Kauffman joins us in the O.C. this week to drop some serious coffee science on our asses. Alongside being the new Coffee Education and Innovation Lead at Hitchcock Restaurant Group, Gray recently competed at the U.S. Coffee Championships, and they talk about how they did in the Olympics of Coffee, their background in food science, their previous gig in product development at Caffe Vita, and what it was like to travel to a coffee farm in the mountains of Colombia—the origin of the beans they used in the competition.


Plus Meg and Mark are always working for the weekend, but they’re not too weakened to tell you about what they ate on their lunch breaks! Dig in!



Mentioned in this episode:

Canlis

De La Soil

Lenox

Ananas Pizza

George’s Polish Deli

Rain Shadow Meats

Sankaku

Cafe Suliman

Narrative

Espresso Vivace

Slow Day

Cardoon

Chelsea Farms

Ginger & Scallion

Surreal

Devium Wine

Jude’s Old Town

The Shambles

Lenox

Taco Time

Ramie

Spice SPC Indian Grocery

DeLuxe Bar & Grill

Meyer Bar



00:00 Intro

4:26 How Gray Got Started

13:14 What’s the Barista Competition Like?

18:50 Milk Innovation and Coffee Mixology

22:51 Choosing Music and Beans for Competition

31:37 Meg’s Indian Bodega Treat

37:39 This Week’s Restaurant News

51:07 Evolution of Seattle Coffee Culture

59:52 Re-thinking Freshness

1:08:28 What’s Next for Seattle Coffee?

1:11:12 Mystery LaCroix Tasting

1:14:18 Thanks, I Ate It!

1:29:28 Coming Up Next

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4 months ago
1 hour 34 minutes 27 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep22: Endless Lovage with Gillian and Joey Diedrick

We’re having another amaro party, this time with Gillian and Joey Diedrick, the husband-and-wife team behind local amaro producer SennzaFinne. The lovebirds tell us about their creative approach in crafting SennzaFinne’s four season-themed amari, and how their fifth amaro—Always—fits into the mix. We also talk about how far the boundaries of an amaro can be pushed while still being recognizable as an amaro, and why the Seattle area is such a hotbed for the bittersweet botanical liqueur.


Plus Meg is in her auntie gardener era, Mark is in his raw scallops era, and we’re all in on bringing you the local restaurant news—and our favorite bites—of the week.


Mentioned in this episode:

Voysey

Bad Chancla

Folio

Homer

Richard’s Too Good BBQ

PopPop Pizza

Top Dead Center Cafe

Dordlofva

Outsider

Hamdi

Greenwood American Bistro

Fair Isle Brewing

Master Bing

La Marea

L'Oursin

DeLaurenti

Giddy Sloth

Pizza Paesano

Schilling Cider

Greenwood Cider Co

Stoneburner

Moxie Mule



0:00 Intro

06:42 What is SennzaFinne?

13:56 The History of SennzaFinne

24:33 Meg’s H Mart Snack

33:37 This Week’s Restaurant News

46:17 The Boundaries of Amaro

55:14 Thanks, I Ate It!

1:13:15 Coming Up Next Week

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4 months ago
1 hour 20 minutes 5 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep21: What About Saj? with Taylor Cheney

Yalla’s chef/co-owner Taylor Cheney joins us fresh off a trip to Turkey, Egypt, Jordan, and Italy with her life and business partner, Matt Mitchell. We talk about how serving dishes from another culture requires you to understand much more than just recipes, and the importance of engaging with people and places. She also gives us some international travel tips and tells us what new things are simmering  at Yalla.

Plus Meg reps the Tacoma Night Market, Mark and Taylor rep the 1991 Bill Murray comedy What About Bob?, and we all rep the local restaurant news—and our favorite bites—of the week.


Mentioned in this episode:

Nils Frahm

Tacoma Night Market

Grit City Magazine

Koshary

Aura Bora

LaCroix

Polar

Waterloo

Cantina del Sol

Temple Pastries

Mixed Pantry 

Rumba

Tacos Chukis

Sugar Hill

Maneki

Itsumono

TN Trang

The Attic

The Red Onion Tavern

The George Coffee and Pastries

Hellenika

Bang Bang Cafe

Tamari Bar

High Life

Baiten

Makoto

Corbeau

Woven

0:00 Intro

8:43 Catching Up with Yalla

17:35 Yalla Window’s Storied History

25:28 Meg’s Shell Station Mystery Treat

31:59 This Week’s Restaurant News 

40:27 Why Travel is Important

48:08 Thanks, I Ate It!

1:07:11 Coming Up Next

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5 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes 29 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep20: Bad Wine Comes From Everywhere with Aaron Tekulve

We’re talking tasting menus, Washington wines, and restaurant biz literacy with Aaron Tekulve, chef/owner of Surrell! Aaron tells us how he took Surrell from a pop-up to one of Seattle’s most thoughtful and intentional dining experiences, and how he paces a tasting menu so diners don’t feel like test subjects. He also shares some wisdom about how to open a restaurant—including using key resources offered by the Small Business Administration and the Washington Hospitality Association. 

Plus Meg concludes her cider sojourns (for now!), Mark celebrates another sojourn around the sun, and we all sojourn around the city for the current restaurant news—and best bites—of the week!


Follow Surrell on Instagram

Check out SCORE business mentoring

Small Business Administration Seattle branch

Washington Hospitality Association

WHA Education Foundation


Mentioned in this episode:

Cottontail

Screwdriver

WigOut

Single Thread

Lauren Thompson

South Seattle College

Small Business Administration’s SCORE program

Washington Hospitality Association 

Darby Winery

Cook Weaver

Latta Wines

Reynvaan Family Vineyards  

Gasworks Brewing 

Jak’s Grill

Lady Jaye 

Zeigteist

Ben Paris

Finn River

Bushel & Barrel

Shadowland

Bruciato

Lucy’s Bottle Shop

Siembra

Aash Farms

Luka’s 

Tacos Extranjeros

Maripili  

Mioposto

0:00 Intro

4:05 Surrell   

8:58 Michelin Stars & WA Wines

18:05 Surrell’s Origin

27:12 Meg’s Mini Mart Dubai Chocolate 

33:51 Aaron’s Wine Tasting

38:50 This Week’s Restaurant News

49:31 In Defense of Tweezers!  

53:22 This Week’s Restaurant News, Pt 2

57:30 Business Education & Financial Literacy

1:08:12 Thanks, I Ate It!

1:17:16 Coming Up Next Week

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5 months ago
1 hour 20 minutes 1 second

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep19: Mural Lessons and Fried Chicken Metrics with Uttam Mukherjee

Spice Waala’s “chief feeding officer,” and all-around mathmagician, Uttam Mukherjee joins us for a fascinating cha(a)t! Uttam explains how he crunches the numbers on kathi rolls, the availability of legit Indian food in the U.S. and Seattle, and how to try out new menu concepts at your restaurant (and when to take the L). We also learn about the ways in which he and his wife/Spice Waala co-owner, Dr. Aakanksha Sinha, support their community through cheap and free meals. 

Plus Meg’s got treats from working the orchard beat, Mark's still chasing that sweet ocean beat, and we all three beat feet on the street to bring you the freshest local restaurant news—and our most elite eats of the week. 


Mentioned in this episode:

Pidgin Cooperative

Royal Room

Rockridge Country Market 

Hitchcock Bakeshop

The Wayland Mill

Thai Siam

Resonate Brewery

Cloudburst Brewing

Bellevue Brewing Company

Kathakali

Indian-Nepali Kitchen

Cafe Suliman

Ken’s Market

Grann

Cafe Allegro

Monorail Espresso

Bar Miriam

Greenwood Cider Company

The Masonry

Pop Pop

Bob’s Java Jive

Señor Carbon

George Coffee and Pastries

Laurel

0:00 Intro

07:47 Spice Waala and Fried Chicken

15:35 Bhojan: Spice Waala’s Free Meal Program

17:33 Expanding Locations and Tracking Metrics

23:58 Google Review Ghosts

28:33 Meg’s Rockridge Country Market Treat

39:33 This Week’s Restaurant News

45:58 Misunderstandings of Indian Cuisine

57:50 How Can the City of Seattle Help Small Businesses?

1:04:38 Thanks, I Ate It!

1:20:51 Coming Up Next Week

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5 months ago
1 hour 22 minutes 21 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep18: If It Were Easy, Everyone Would Be Doing It with Trinh Nguyen

Chef/owner Trinh Nguyen (Ramie, Sucres, Ba Sa, Pho T&N) joins us for a wide-ranging conversation on Vietnamese cuisine. Learn how she went from putting her college dreams on hold, in order to run her parents’ pho shop at age 19, to finally fulfilling her passion—serving cutting-edge Viet dishes—at Ramie. Are Seattle diners ready to explore the evolution of Vietnamese food the same way they’ve embraced the evolution of Italian, Japanese, Filipino, and other international cuisines? What barriers are still in place that need to be overcome?


We also talk about local seafood, as Trinh wonders why the PNW doesn’t cultivate a wider variety of native fish and shellfish.


Plus Meg’s reppin’ cozy cideries, Mark’s reppin’ live music, and we all rep the local restaurant scene with the latest news—and our favorite bites—of the week.


Places mentioned in this episode:

Little Jaye

Ba + Me

Woodshop BBQ

Temple Pastries

Menya Musashi

Mee Sum Pastry

Karoo Cafe

Copa Cafe

Hellinka

Cockrell Cider

Mezzanotte

Letterpress Distilling

Pidgin Cooperative

Taz


00:00 Intro

07:08 How Trinh Started

15:19 Ba Sa and Expanding Pho T&N

23:21 Ramie

33:20 Meg’s La Huerta Numero Dos Mystery Snack

39:49 This Week’s Restaurant News

53:19 Why Isn’t More Native Seafood Cultivated Here?

59:34 Ramie and Evolving Vietnamese Cuisine

1:11:39 Sucres

1:16:42 Thanks, I Ate It!

1:30:46 Coming Up Next Week

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5 months ago
1 hour 35 minutes 4 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep17: Home of the Slopper with Jackie Varriano

The Seattle Times food writer (and friend of the pod) Jackie Varriano swings by to talk neighborhood restaurants, the difference between a food writer and a food critic, and the perils involved when writers are responsible for their own food photography. She also tells us our new favorite Mitch Hedberg joke!

Plus Meg critiques the American theater, Mark loves documentaries, we list our favorite bites of the week, and we’ve got all the restaurant news that’s fit to podcast about.

Check out Jackie's writing at The Seattle Times


Restaurants mentioned in this episode:

Tamra

Moto

Taste of Yemen

Foundry Vineyards

Take 5 Urban Market

Blazing Grill

Stumbletown Sandwiches

Shark Bite Ceviche

Lupo

Kilig

Vindicktive Wings

Triangle Spirits

Giddy Sloth

Murphy’s Pub

Robin’s Restaurant and Market

Union Saloon


Events mentioned in this episode:

Souk

Seattle Jazz Fellowship

Ahame Oluo

Food and Country


00:00 Intro

07:59 Jackie’s Role at The Seattle Times

19:45 Meg’s H Mart Mystery Snack

24:56 This Week’s Restaurant News

33:45 What Food Writers Do and Don’t Do

46:42 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:08:23 Coming Up Next Week

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6 months ago
1 hour 10 minutes 50 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep16: Hip to Be Pioneer Square with Marcus Lalario and Sean Russo

We’re talking Italian American comfort food with Darkalino’s owner/entrepreneur Marcus Lalario and Chef Sean Russo! Marcus and Sean tell us about how their nostalgia for the classic “red sauce joint” inspired a menu update that reclaims corporation-brutalized dishes like chicken parm and sausage and peppers. Could Darkalino’s be Seattle’s entry in the West Coast trend of new restaurants treating old-school Italian American mainstays with a sense of both craft and approachable fun?

We also share our big love for Pioneer Square and discuss where it is in post-lockdown recovery. And Marcus gives us the details on the upcoming concert and event series he’s organized for Occidental Square, which he’s also restyled (unofficially!) as Brick Park.

Plus we chat about Meg’s must-read story in The Stranger about the Virginia Inn lease dispute, and—of course—this week’s restaurant news and our best bites of the week. 

Follow Darkalino's on Instagram

Learn more about Brick Park events


00:00 Intro

02:48 Darkalino’s Tangletown vs. Pioneer Square

16:06 The Story Behind the Name “Darkalino’s”

20:04 Meg’s Grocery Outlet Mystery Snack

25:20 This Week’s Restaurant News

36:28 Pioneer Square

49:17 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:03:39 Coming Up Next Week

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6 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 3 seconds

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S1 Ep15: Money’s Never Late with Jhonny Reyes

Chef/owner Jhonny Reyes chats with us about  the inaugural year of Lenox—his stellar Afro-Latin/Nuyorican restaurant in Belltown—as well as his deep Seattle roots and what it's like to appear on Food Network TV shows Alex vs. America and Chopped.

We also talk about contending with the relentless economic challenges of today, discuss whether or not chefs and restaurants are overemphasizing their stories, and delve into some Belltown restaurant history.

Plus Meg closes on a veterinary ordeal with her adopted alleycat, Mark closes out the week with a pig roast, and there’s way too many restaurants closing in this week’s news. 

Follow Lenox on Instagram

00:00 Intro

06:54 Jhonny’s Origins

12:00 Big Love for Belltown and White Center

18:31 What is Lenox?

25:35 Meg’s Grocery Outlet Mystery Snack

31:19 This Week’s Restaurant News

43:57 How Can a Restaurant Contend with This Economy?

51:43 The Food Network Experience

58:37 Story vs. Food

01:04:04 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:20:50 Coming Up Next Week

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6 months ago
1 hour 24 minutes 16 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep14: Bartender’s Ketchup with Matt Pachmayr

Le Coin bar manager Matt Pachmayr, the principal of Chartreuse (our words, not his), joins us to talk about his Monday-night pop-up/industry party No Call No Show, learning to bartend with the legendary Murray Stenson, and—of course—all things Chartreuse. 

We also chat about cocktail mentorship, Seattle’s unique bar culture, and whether or not there’s a boilermaker that could be considered The Seattle Handshake. 

Plus Meg boosts her gardening game with a greenhouse, Mark boosts his wine knowledge with a trip to Woodinville, and we all boost the local restaurant scene with fresh news—and our best bites—of the week.

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Follow No Call No Show on Instagram

00:00 Intro

04:30 Le Coin and the Streamline Tavern

09:44 Growing up Missourian

15:56 Bartending in Seattle

20:57 Working with Murray Stenson

26:23 Tasting Chartreuse Green V.E.P. 

30:53 No Call No Show

34:44 Meg’s Grocery Outlet Mystery Snack

38:47 This Week’s Restaurant News

45:37 Thanks, I Ate It!

58:18 Coming Up Next Week

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6 months ago
1 hour 1 minute 43 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep13: Outside is Like a Windows Wallpaper with Chachi Thomas

Filson’s current Chef Face (that’s his title!) and former pop-up scene fixture Chachi Thomas chops it up with us about growing up in southern California, starting and leaving the pop-up game, and crossing paths with notorious Hells Angel Sonny Barger.

We also talk about why Chachi decided not to open a brick-and-mortar, chew on Spice Waala’s Instagram post about what the City of Seattle can do to help small businesses thrive, and give love to Chachi’s favorite burger joint—and Mark’s first-ever job—in Bothell. 

Plus Meg has a date night at the Seattle Symphony, Mark has yet another doppelgänger, and we all have the local restaurant news—and our best bites—of the week.

Follow Chachi on Instagram

Check Out Filson Food and Recipes


00:00 Intro

11:53 Fontucky, Hell’s Angels, and Art Supplies

16:43 Chachi’s Pop-Up Origin Story

25:28 Meg’s Grocery Outlet Mystery Snack

29:45 This Week’s Restaurant News

39:33 Why Chachi Left the Pop-Up Game

50:48 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:07:23 Coming Up Next Week

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7 months ago
1 hour 9 minutes 35 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep12: I Kinda Felt Healthy About It with Lakea Osias

No one brings the party like catering (and former popup) queen Lakea Osias! Chef Lakea pours wine and spills tea about the pros and cons of running a popup, learning different regional barbecue styles, and the fact that catering is a luxury service.

We also talk about the vital space that Wa Na Wari is for the Central District and Seattle’s Black community overall, wrestle with our nearly unanimous dislike of IPAs, hear about the only karaoke spot that makes Lakea nervous to sing, and—did we all just kill that bottle of pinot grigio already?

Plus Meg drops another mystery snack to taste, Mark drops a mystery electro-jazz style to check out, and we all drop the local restaurant news—and our best bites—of the week.

Follow Lakea on Instagram

Check Out Lakea's Catering

Learn More About Wa Na Wari

Contribute to JarrBar’s GoFundMe

Get More Info on Plate of Nations


00:00 Intro

07:11 Rose Temple and Wa Na Wari

12:00 IPAs and BBQ

19:47 Meg’s Grocery Outlet Mystery Snack

26:04 This Week’s Restaurant News

42:39 Getting Out of the Pop-Up Game

54:59 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:15:46 Coming Up Next Week

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7 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes 25 seconds

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S1 Ep11: The Amaro of Tomorrow with Skip Tognetti

We’re talking amaro—and other Italian liqueurs!—with Skip Tognetti, co-owner of Letterpress Distilling in SoDo. Skip tells us about the ingredient-forward approach at Letterpress, explains the reason why limoncello attains certain shades of yellow, and possibly invents a new liqueur category, New World Nocino.

We also chat about Skip’s childhood memories of his grandfather’s liquor store in Rome, which European city has the best pizza, and the challenges of running a distillery in 2025, when alcohol consumption is down and tariffs are (maybe?) up. 

Plus Mark and Skip break each other’s brains about the most acceptable way to pluralize the word amaro, Meg breaks with her family when it comes to Mexican chain food, and we all break the local restaurant news—and our best bites—of the week.

Follow Skip and Letterpress Distilling on Instagram

00:00 Intro

04:11 What Letterpress Distilling Makes

08:36 Limoncello FAQs

13:55 Amari v. Amaros 

19:22 Skip’s Favorite Amari

23:58 Meg’s Winco Mystery Snack

27:56 This Week’s Restaurant News

37:01 Modern Challenges in the Distillery Business

47:07 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:06:36 Coming Up Next

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7 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 49 seconds

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S1 Ep10: Olive Way Hidden Fun Zone with Kate Opatz and Niko Ciel

Kate Opatz and Niko Ciel join us to talk about Laurel, their sunny (and diminutive!) new coffee shop/cocktail bar on East Olive Way—an aesthetic foil to Montana Bar, Kate’s quintessential dark, moody dive next door. Niko and Kate tell us about their concept for Laurel, their artistic inspiration in designing the space, and how they ensure that Laurel is as dialed in as a coffee shop as it is as a bar, and vice versa.

We also discuss the moving target that is How to Run a Successful Bar in Seattle in 2025, and whether or not there’s even an answer. Is there anything the city can do to ease barriers and encourage success? Or is it all just rolling with the punches? 

Plus Meg discovers a weird new treat from Grocery Outlet to unbox on the show, Mark discovers that Nick Lowe can still play bangers at age 75, and we all discover the local restaurant news—and our favorite bites—of the week.

Follow Laurel on Instagram

Follow Montana Bar and Montana Badlands on Instagram

Follow Rich Rich on Instagram

Follow Nacho Borracho on Instagram

Follow La Dive on Instagram

Check out Plymouth Housing, a permanent supportive housing organization in Seattle dedicated to providing stable housing and other crucial resources to adults facing homelessness.

00:00 Intro

03:30 Opening Laurel

10:30 First Cocktails on Tap in Seattle

14:39 Pre-News Tasting!

17:53 Restaurant News This Week

29:05 What Does It Take to Run a Successful Bar?

39:00 Thanks, I Ate It!

53:53 Coming Up Next

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7 months ago
58 minutes 13 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep9: Good Tuk, Babe! with Karuna Long

Friend of the pod Karuna Long (Sophon, Oliver’s Twist) stops by to chop it up! Learn about his journey from bartender to bar owner to chef/owner—and how the pandemic made him realize an opportunity to create more space for Cambodian culture in Seattle. Karuna also tells us about how his family briefly crossed paths with “donut king” Ted Ngoy, and why donut boxes are pink.

We also talk about Sophon’s James Beard Award nomination for Best New Bar, and the complicated feelings that come with recognition from an organization that has historically fallen short of inclusiveness.  

Plus Meg goes to the opera, Mark goes to the Japanese-style vinyl listening lounge, and we all go report on the local restaurant news—and our favorite bites—of the week.

Follow Sophon on Instagram

Follow Oliver’s Twist on Instagram

Check out the Seattle Humane Society

Check out the Tacoma Humane Society


00:00 Intro

10:46 Karuna’s Story

15:20 Donut King Ted Ngoy

17:26 Opening Sophon

19:49 Traditional vs. Modern Cambodian Food

21:56 Sophon at One Year

26:20 Creating a Cambodian Bar Program

29:19 Pre-News Taste Test

31:29 Restaurant News This Week

40:01 Sophon’s James Beard Award Nom

44:34 Chubby Brown Boys

47:17 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:00:55 Coming Up Next

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8 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 27 seconds

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S1 Ep8: Pop-Up Chop-Up with Edgar D’Souza

Get to know Edgar D’Souza, the elusive but very real human being behind the SeattlePopups Instagram account—an essential source of info about the Seattle area’s thriving and super diverse pop-up scene. Edgar tells us why he likes to maintain a level of anonymity on the account, what compelled him to create an ongoing pop-up events calendar on IG, and where he sees the scene going next.

We also talk about how pop-ups and supper clubs can be pleasant, low-pressure social events, whether there’s a way past Seattle’s habit of risk aversion, and the ethics around treating chefs as star protagonists. 

Plus Meg finally finds her favorite flavor of La Croix locally, Mark finally finds an everything bagel that doesn’t omit anything, and we finally find out and report on all the local restaurant news—and our favorite bites—of the week.

Follow Edgar on Instagram for info on Seattle area pop-ups

00:00 Intro

05:43 Edgar’s Professional Anonymity

07:41 Why Edgar Started Seattle Pop-Ups

09:34 What Is Seattle Pop-Ups?

11:51 Recent Pop-Up Trends

16:48 Pop-Ups as Social Events

18:46 Have We Reached Peak Bagel?

22:00 NiCola La Croix

25:01 Restaurant News This Week

35:59 The Future of Pop-Ups

39:10 Why Is Seattle So Risk-Averse?

43:04 Seattle’s Unique Pop-Up Scene

47:31 The Ethics of Celebritizing Chefs

53:21 Thanks, I Ate It!

01:05:32 Coming Up Next

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8 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 6 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
S1 Ep7: Chu Late for the Chuleta with José Garzón and Stef Hieber

In the Dinnernet’s two-guest premiere, we’re joined by José Garzón and Stef Hieber, co-owners of Garzón Restaurants (Bad Chancla, Latinx Street Food, Topless Tapas, Lola’s Supper Club, Chifa Baby), for a wide-ranging conversation about going from FOH to BOH, the benefits of Bad Chancla’s all-electric kitchen, karaoke sharks, bodega cats, and why Lynnwood is an actual dining destination. 

Stef and José reminisce on meeting as coworkers at Barking Frog (including José’s first impression of Stef!) and give advice to new restaurateurs. José also tells us how he developed his killer Don Bronco pork chop sandwich for Lil Woody’s and gets our hopes up on seeing it again at Chubby Brown Boys, his upcoming collab with Karuna Long (Sophon) at Oliver’s Twist.

Plus Meg finds a way to celebrate Valentine’s Day with praxis, Mark figures out the best vantage point at Barboza, and we give you all the local restaurant news and best bites of the week.

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0:00 Intro

3:38 Bad Chancla’s First Year

5:30 Stef’s Transition to Cooking

9:09 Beginnings at Barking Frog

15:00 This Week’s Restaurant News

17:02 Dan the Karaoke Shark/Bodega Cat

22:54 Advice from José

27:25 Chubby Brown Boys

29:38 Bad Chancla and the Electric Kitchen

35:07 Lynnwood Is a Dining Destination (Really!)

49:00 Thanks, I Ate It!

56:43 The Don Bronco Sandwich at Lil Woody’s

1:03:41 Venture Beyond Your Neighborhood!

1:08:25 Coming Up Next

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S1 Ep6: Under the Influencers with Michael Wong

Cultural anthropologist (!) Michael Wong (Asian Verified,The Stranger) chops it up with us about what makes something Asian Verified, why he switched from covering food on IG to covering it in print, and the problems with foodie influencer culture. And he’s got some tough-love content creation advice for small business owners who don’t know where to start.

We also talk about the ethics of content creation and the Keith Lee fiasco, along with the importance of thoughtfulness, research, and humility—whether you’re an influencer or a journalist. We shout out some food influencers who we think are doing it the right way, and…we might’ve called out a few who we think aren’t. It’s a spicy one, and we throw some elbows here—let us know what you think! 

Plus Meg finally makes it to Buddy’s Chicken and Waffles, Mark finally gets into Led Zeppelin (?!), and we give you all the local restaurant news and best bites of the week.

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00:00 Intro

03:48 The Origin of Asian Verified

07:10 What Makes Something Asian Verified?

09:45 The Problem With Discussing Food Online

12:26 Instagram “Foodie” Culture

15:54 Content Creation Advice For Small Businesses

20:11 Restaurant News This Week

30:44 What Does Content Creator Mean?

32:09 Michael’s Equipment Setup

35:00 The Ethics of Filming People in Public

37:08 The Keith Lee Sushi Fiasco

45:00 Business Spikes Aren’t Necessarily Good

46:55 Negative Lists

51:22 Thanks, I Ate It

01:07:16 What’s Next

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1 hour 8 minutes 30 seconds

The Dinnernet with Mark and Meg
Seattle food writers Meg van Huygen (The Stranger, Seattle Met, others) and Mark DeJoy (Eater Seattle, The Ticket, others) chop it up each week with guests from the PNW food and beverage industry, including chefs, restaurant owners, bartenders, GMs, farmers, vintners, brewers, distillers, baristas, and more. New episode every Thursday!