The Dealer Playbook is the top-rated podcast for automotive professionals who want to dominate the retail industry.
Hosted by Michael Cirillo, this show delivers expert interviews, proven strategies, and actionable insights to help you sell more cars, lead stronger teams, and grow thriving dealerships.
Whether you work in sales, service, F&I, marketing, or management, you’ll gain the tools and confidence to excel in a rapidly evolving market.
Join thousands of listeners every week who trust The Dealer Playbook as their go-to resource for career growth and dealership success. Subscribe now and unlock the secrets to staying ahead in the fast-paced world of retail automotive.
The Dealer Playbook is the top-rated podcast for automotive professionals who want to dominate the retail industry.
Hosted by Michael Cirillo, this show delivers expert interviews, proven strategies, and actionable insights to help you sell more cars, lead stronger teams, and grow thriving dealerships.
Whether you work in sales, service, F&I, marketing, or management, you’ll gain the tools and confidence to excel in a rapidly evolving market.
Join thousands of listeners every week who trust The Dealer Playbook as their go-to resource for career growth and dealership success. Subscribe now and unlock the secrets to staying ahead in the fast-paced world of retail automotive.
Curiosity beats fear in modern retail automotive. In this episode of The Dealer Playbook, Michael Cirillo sits down with Sebrina Westbrooke, Program Manager at Georgian College’s Automotive Business School of Canada and lead for the Canadian Dealer Academy, to unpack how car dealerships are future-proofing leadership teams for AI, electrification, digital retailing, and connected services—without losing the human connection that drives performance.
You’ll hear how the Academy builds real operators, not shelf-ware: learners work directly from their own DMS reports, financial statements, PMA data, and benchmarks, then implement changes in-store—like a fixed ops tune-up that lifted department profit by 6% in the first month. We also dig into the gaps that hold back new general managers (often promoted for past results, not leadership readiness) and how to close them with clarity, data, and soft-skill mastery.
What you’ll learn:
How to turn curiosity into an operating system that reduces fear around AI and EV transitions
A practical way to replace “gut feel” with dealership data—and the exact questions great leaders ask
Why fixed ops fluency is the hidden unlock for many first-time GMs from the variable side
The leadership capabilities that matter now: critical thinking, problem-solving, human-centric management
How to align culture, engagement, and training with profitability (and stop overspending to “buy” results)
Who this is for: car dealership owners, dealer principals, general managers, department leaders, and emerging leaders who want measurable performance in sales, service, and F&I—without waiting on manufacturer incentives or bigger ad budgets.
There’s something special about people who build where no blueprint exists.
My guest today, Alex Lawrence, is one of those people.
He’s a tech veteran, tenured professor, and serial entrepreneur who co-founded EV Auto, one of the first dealership groups in the U.S. dedicated entirely to used EVs and plug-in hybrids.
But what really stands out about Alex isn’t just what he’s built, it’s how he’s built it. With patience, conviction, and a willingness to play the long game while everyone else chases trends.
In this conversation, we get real about what it takes to grow an EV-only business through volatility, tax credit chaos, and all the unpredictable swings of an emerging market. Alex breaks down how he and his team literally sold their final cars minutes before the EV tax incentive expired, using the power of social media.
We also dive into:
Why authenticity on social media has become one of the strongest moats in business today.
The psychology of urgency, and how it can move people to take action at 11PM on a Saturday.
What it really means to juggle entrepreneurship, teaching, and family without losing your soul in the process.
Why the EV revolution isn’t dead, it’s just getting started.
Alex’s story is proof that doing the hard thing, the long thing, and the real thing still works.
If you’ve ever wondered what it looks like to build something meaningful when the market’s uncertain and the playbook doesn’t exist. this one’s for you.
What makes someone dream of being in the car business, and then actually make it happen?
In this episode, I sit down with Tara Willis, a seasoned automotive professional who turned her childhood love for cars into a 20-year career working with major automotive brands like BMW, Subaru, Nissan, and Infiniti. Tara now leads product marketing and incentives planning at Infiniti, and she’s using her voice to shape what leadership looks like in today’s auto industry.
We talk about how she found her footing in a predominantly male space, the lessons she’s learned sitting in boardrooms across the automotive world, and what it really takes to create workplaces where every voice can be heard. Tara shares honest reflections about mentorship, empathy, and the power of communication, especially when intent and impact don’t always line up.
We also dive into why she believes there’s still so much hope in the future of car buying and the automotive industry, from evolving technology to stronger community connections through dealership philanthropy. And she shares how her work with Empowering Auto is helping inspire the next generation of car industry leaders.
If you’re passionate about car sales, automotive leadership, or the human side of this business, this conversation will remind you why the industry is worth believing in.
Selling more cars isn't for the faint of heart. It requires daily commitment, discipline, and genuine human connection.
In this episode, my guest is Jean-Pierre Lacroix, president and founder of SLD, a global branding firm that’s spent more than 30 years helping businesses win customers by tapping into what really drives decisions: emotion. He’s the author of Think Blink Manifesto, a book that lays out seven powerful ways brands can create lasting connections in an instant.
We get into some big questions: Why do people buy cars the way they do? What makes one automotive brand feel worth a premium while another has to compete on price? How can dealerships go beyond features and functions to deliver experiences that customers actually remember?
Layer on how quickly technology is evolving with artificial intelligence. What are the implications and will car buyers want more technology assisted experiences or more genuine human connection experiences during the car sales process? We get into this and so much more during this episode of The Dealer Playbook.
Jean-Pierre Lacroix shares surprising insights about major automotive brands like Volvo, BMW, and Jeep and reveals the most underrated sales tool in the entire retail automotive industry. He shares why this one tweak will help with customer retention, lifetime value, and brand loyalty.
If you’ve ever wondered why car shoppers say one thing but choose another, this episode will change the way you think about the entire buying experience.
In this episode my guest is Brad Gelber, Digital Media and Content Marketing Manager at West Herr Auto Group, the largest privately owned dealer group in New York.
Brad and I dive into what it really takes to market a dealership in today’s world without sounding like every other store in town. We talk about the role leadership and culture play in shaping a brand’s voice, why raw phone-shot content often outperforms polished commercials, and how to uncover stories that are hiding in plain sight inside your dealership.
You’ll also hear Brad’s perspective on using AI as a tool without letting it replace human creativity, the surprising value of a simple photo in a video-driven world, and his personal test for knowing whether a story is worth sharing.
If you’ve ever wondered how to move beyond cookie-cutter posts and start creating content that actually connects, this episode will give you the insight and inspiration to do it.
Most people assume the biggest problem in retail auto is inventory, rates, or competition.
But every time I walk into a dealership, I see something else at the core of the struggle. It isn’t obvious on the surface, but you can feel it in the turnover, the burnout, the “busy but not fulfilled” pace that too many teams are stuck in.
We love to talk about legacy in this industry. The photos on the walls, the family names on the buildings. But the truth is, legacy can’t just be something we inherit or frame. It has to be something we create every single day. And most stores don’t have a framework for how to actually do that.
That gap shows up everywhere: in culture, in leadership, in the quiet frustration people feel when they show up to work and wonder if it really matters.
In this week’s solo episode, I share what I believe is the biggest problem holding retail auto back, and how you can solve it. It’s the same framework my team and I use in my companies, and it’s made all the difference in how we lead, how we serve, and even how I show up at home with my family.
I think you’ll find it both challenging and hopeful.
In this episode my guest is Jimmy Douglas, founder and CEO of Plug and former Tesla exec. Jimmy’s one of the sharpest voices in the pre-owned EV market, and he’s here to break down what most dealers are missing, and what a small group is quietly getting right.
We talk about why nearly half of dealers still won’t touch used EVs, what it actually takes to build a profitable EV business inside your store, and why “dipping your toe in” may be worse than not playing at all. Jimmy also shares how culture inside the dealership makes or breaks EV success, what numbers you should pay attention to, and how to avoid getting stuck with inventory that loses value faster than you expect.
If you’ve been on the fence about EVs, this conversation will help you sort through the noise and figure out whether your store is ready—or if it’s better to wait. Either way, you’ll walk away with a clearer picture of what’s really happening in the market and how to prepare for what’s coming.
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In this episode my guest is Ondar Tarlow, a marketing strategist with more than 20 years of experience working with brands like Fastlane Drive, Pacific Premier Bank, and the LA Chargers. He’s built a career on creating events and campaigns that actually move people—sometimes literally into showrooms.
We dig into the big question dealers wrestle with all the time: what actually makes an event memorable? Ondar breaks down why so many VIP activations fall flat, and what it takes to craft experiences that stand out in a world where everyone is competing for the same high-value customers.
You’ll hear insights on:
If you’ve ever wondered how to make your dealership events more than just “another invite,” this conversation will get you thinking differently about experiences, community, and what customers really value.
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In this episode, my guest is Shasta Haddock, Chief Operations Officer at Epic BDC and host of I'm A Car Chick Podcast. With over a decade in automotive, she’s built high-performing BDC teams and even created the industry’s first elite response team that turns social media traffic into real showroom appointments.
We get into some very real challenges that are still holding dealerships back in 2025. Things like response times that feel “fast” but are actually losing sales, CRM processes that quietly drop leads, and the outdated templates that make customers tune out before a conversation even starts.
Shasta also shares how her team stumbled into a breakthrough approach that changed the way dealerships convert Facebook traffic, and why one lesson she picked up from her husband’s work in law enforcement completely reshaped how she thinks about accountability in the BDC.
If you’ve ever wondered why some leads vanish, how to make your first customer touchpoint more powerful, or what role AI should really play in your dealership today, this episode will give you plenty to think about.
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In this episode my guest is Janis Showers, founder of The Car Girls, who has spent more than 25 years helping dealerships turn phone calls and customer conversations into lasting relationships and profit.
We dig into why the simplest interaction—the phone call—is still one of the biggest stumbling blocks in 2025, and what that says about the way dealers connect with their customers. Janis shares what she’s seeing inside stores right now: why younger staff avoid the phone, how lease renewals are often handled poorly, and where BDC teams can become the heartbeat of the entire operation.
You’ll hear real examples of what happens when dealerships don’t prepare for appointments, the hidden trust that’s either built or broken at the first hello, and why human connection will always matter more than automation.
If you’ve ever wondered why missed calls keep turning into missed sales—or how your team can be empowered to own the customer experience instead of passing it around—this episode will give you plenty to think about and act on.
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In this episode, my guest is Megan McDowell, Vice President of Operations at TrueCar. Megan’s career started on the sales floor at Lexus of Austin and took her all the way to the executive table without leaving the automotive industry.
We dig into what she learned from those bell-to-bell dealership days that gave her an edge in leadership, and how skills you might take for granted—like reading people, asking the right questions, and understanding the flow of a deal—can open doors you didn’t even know existed.
We talk about:
If you’ve ever wondered where your automotive career could take you—or how to make the most of the experience you already have—this conversation will give you a fresh perspective and a few ideas you can put to work right away.
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Let’s just be real.
The ground has shifted—and it’s not just a ripple. It’s a full-blown seismic shift under every industry, every role, every business model. In this episode, I’m unpacking what that actually means for those of us in the retail auto world and beyond as we navigate artificial intelligence.
You’ve seen the AI overviews show up before Google search results. You’ve heard the noise "AI is coming for your job." But here’s the kicker: whether you believe it will or won’t, you’re probably right.
What we explore in this episode is the why behind that statement, and more importantly, what you can do about it.
If you’re someone who’s wondering how to adapt, how to lead, how to stay relevant—or heck, even how to start thinking about AI in a way that serves you and your team—this one’s for you.
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We’re throwing it back to one of the most practical and actionable episodes of MC on the Mic—and for good reason. This strategy is so simple, it almost feels too good to be true. But it's exactly the kind of innovative (not inventive) move that the top 1% in sales and service swear by.
In this solo episode, I break down a three-step framework that anyone—yes, even if you're not in sales—can use to stand out, build trust, and dominate your market. No budget increase, no fancy tools, no permission slips needed. Just your brain, your phone, and about 10 minutes a day.
Here’s what we cover:
And hey, I get it. Everyone wants the secret sauce. We want the next big hack. But sometimes, the most powerful move isn’t in a webinar or paid ad—it’s in showing up where people already are and being genuinely helpful.
So, if you’ve ever found yourself saying, “How do I get more leads without throwing more money at ads?”—this episode is your answer.
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In this episode, my guest is Gary Graves, the kind of guy who can build a SaaS platform by day and grade a dirt road by night. One foot in the tech world, the other in the real one. Equal parts futurist and hands-on problem solver, he's spent years collecting and analyzing the conversations dealerships have with their customers—and the insights he’s uncovered are eye-opening.
We first aired this episode a while back, but honestly, it’s been aging so well we figured more people needed to hear it. The insights are still sharp, the stories still hit, and the timing feels just right.
Gary and I talk about what really happens on the other end of a dealership’s phone line—and what those conversations reveal about how we treat customers. You’ll hear why most CRMs still misunderstand the role of a phone call, how IVRs might be silently costing you business, and what dealers can do today to build actual loyalty—not just repeat transactions.
One of the things I love about this conversation is how practical it is. Gary doesn’t talk in circles. He breaks down what the data shows, what dealerships keep missing, and what it actually looks like to build a culture where customers want to come back.
If you’ve ever wondered why your customers don’t call back, or why some reviews sting more than others, this episode is worth your time.
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In this episode, my guest is David Pulla, President of Dynamic Tire, one of Canada’s largest tire distributors. We dive into a part of the business that most dealers overlook—tires—and explore how they’re not just rubber on a rim, but one of the most practical tools for increasing retention, profitability, and service traffic.
We talk about how dealers can rethink their parts and service strategy, use data to move inventory smarter, and turn something as simple as a tire rotation into a reason customers come back again and again. David also shares what the rise of EVs means for the tire industry and the surprising ways innovation is showing up in a category that most of us don’t give a second thought to.
If you’ve ever said “tires aren’t my thing” or “it’s not worth the time,” this episode might just change your mind.
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In this episode I’m joined by Arthur J. Madjarian, a guy who’s been neck-deep in retail automotive, pivoted into mergers & acquisitions, and now helps dealer groups grow, exit, and scale smart. If you’ve ever wondered how M&A works in the auto industry, or whether dealership ownership is still worth chasing in 2025, this is your episode.
Arthur talks about real-life strategy, timing, red flags to avoid, and why culture and “friendly money” might just be the most underrated forces in any deal.
We also dive into:
If you’re thinking about expanding, selling, or even just getting into the business, Arthur gives the kind of candid insight that only comes from living it.
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In this episode, my guest is Colin Carrasquillo, Digital Marketing Manager at Nielsen Auto Group.
We’re diving into some of the real challenges and solutions that most dealers are thinking about but rarely talk about out loud.
We talk about what it actually looks like to get your vendor partners working together instead of pulling in different directions. Colin shares how he’s doing this at scale across 14 rooftops and why it’s changing the game for their group.
We also get into why most dealers are still chasing the wrong SEO strategy in 2025 and what really matters now if you want to show up where your customers are actually searching.
You’ll learn:
This conversation is packed with useful ideas you can take back to your store, and it’ll definitely make you rethink how you approach your partnerships and marketing.
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In this episode, my guest is Sam Maimone from Activix, and we’re diving into a part of the car business that most people think they’ve figured out—but really haven’t: CRM.
We talk about why most CRM setups are missing the mark and why buying more leads won’t solve the real problem. Sam shares what he’s seeing inside hundreds of dealerships and the small shifts that can completely change how your CRM performs. We also explore why skipping proper discovery can cost you, and what a good CRM process actually looks like when the people, the process, and the tech finally click.
Sam’s story is packed with hard-earned lessons—from DJ booths to dealership desks to the corporate world and back. This is a real conversation about what works, what doesn't, and how to spot the difference.
If you’ve ever wondered:
...you’re going to want to lean in for this one.
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In this episode, my guest is Nicole Dolphin, Retail Development Manager at Groupe Touchette, and we’re digging into the part of the dealership that doesn’t always get its fair share of attention—Fixed Ops.
Nicole shares how the service department isn’t just about oil changes and tires. It’s a relationship hub. It’s where trust is built (or lost). It’s often the reason someone decides to buy their next vehicle from you—or not.
We talk about how dealerships can better introduce customers to the service side before problems happen, what most teams get wrong about customer handoffs, and how to make your fixed department feel less intimidating for first-time visitors. Nicole also shares her journey from receptionist to parts manager in luxury stores and what she learned about emotional intelligence, leadership, and navigating a male-dominated industry.
If you’re trying to figure out:
...you’ll want to hear this one all the way through.
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In this episode, my guest is Jill Schulman, USMC veteran, leadership coach, and author of The Bravery Effect.
We dig into the surprising role that bravery plays in building high-performing cultures—not just in the military, but in dealerships, teams, and even our personal lives.
Jill shares the science behind why playing it safe actually leads to burnout, anxiety, and unhappiness, and how the most fulfilled, successful people have something in common: they’ve learned how to build bravery like a muscle.
We talk about:
You’ll also hear practical tools—backed by real research—that Jill uses with Fortune 500 companies to help people take bold action, stay mentally strong, and avoid what she calls the “comfort trap.”
If you’ve ever felt like you were capable of more but couldn’t get past the fear, or if you're in leadership and want to help your team do hard things without burning out, this episode’s going to give you some serious perspective.
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