This one’s for the girls who grew up on TRL, cried to Fearless, and low-key still know all the words to “He Could Be the One.” Nora Princiotti joins Lauren and Chanler to talk about the evolution of authenticity in pop, Miley’s totally unfiltered bombshells, and whether Taylor Swift might be pulling off the greatest long game in music history. Check out Nora’s book and podcast here: 📖 Hit Girls by Nora Princiotti 🎧 Every Single Album Check out our amazing sponsors: Clean Simple Eats: Shop CleanSimpleEats.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 10% off! Earlybird: Visit EarlyBirdCBD.com and use code POPAPOLOGISTS for 20% off. Cozy Earth: Go to cozyearth.com and use code POP for 40% off best-selling temperature-regulating sheets, apparel, and more. Progressive: Visit Progressive.com to see if you could save on car insurance. Quince: Go to Quince.com/apologist for 365-day returns, plus free shipping on your order! Nutrafol: For a limited time, Nutrafol is offering our listeners $10 off your first month’s subscription and free shipping when you go to Nutrafol.com and enter the promo code POP. (00:00) 🎤 Introduction — Meet Nora Princiotti and the book that rewrites pop history: Hit Girls. (04:58) 👩‍🎤 Authenticity in Pop — Ashlee Simpson, Avril Lavigne, and why being “real” became a trap. (10:22) 🎧 Poptimism vs Rockism — What’s “real music” anyway? We dive into the early 2000s’ biggest culture war. (19:00) 🌸 Interviewing Miley Cyrus — Nora’s interview with Miley, unfiltered stories, and emotional honesty from the popstar. (26:00) 💿 Miley Album Recs — Where to start if you’ve only heard “Flowers” and “Party in the U.S.A.” (36:10) 🎶 “Since U Been Gone” — The story behind Kelly Clarkson’s scream-your-heart-out hit and the pop comeback no one saw coming. (43:56) 🪩 Taylor Swift — The rerecords, the rage, and her business plays... Did she devalue her own masters on purpose? (47:58) 👑 Brat Summer & Cowboy Carter — Cultural saturation, chart performance, and what we’re actually listening to. See Privacy Policy at https://art19.com/privacy and California Privacy Notice at https://art19.com/privacy#do-not-sell-my-info.