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Off Script
Hey! Presents
55 episodes
1 month ago
Hosted by CTOs Josh Nesbitt and James Hall, Off Script brings you unfiltered conversations about the highs, lows, and lessons of working in tech today. From leading engineering teams and scaling companies, to tackling burnout, bad bets, and breakthrough ideas, this is the show where raw honesty meets experience. Alongside one-on-one conversations between Josh and James, you’ll hear from leaders, builders, designers, and entrepreneurs who aren’t afraid to share what’s really going on behind the scenes — the conversations usually left for DMs, side chats, and after-hours drinks. Whether you’re building your first product or leading a fast-growing team, Off Script gives you a raw and refreshing perspective on the challenges and creativity that shape modern tech. New episodes every few weeks. Subscribe and join the conversation.
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Hosted by CTOs Josh Nesbitt and James Hall, Off Script brings you unfiltered conversations about the highs, lows, and lessons of working in tech today. From leading engineering teams and scaling companies, to tackling burnout, bad bets, and breakthrough ideas, this is the show where raw honesty meets experience. Alongside one-on-one conversations between Josh and James, you’ll hear from leaders, builders, designers, and entrepreneurs who aren’t afraid to share what’s really going on behind the scenes — the conversations usually left for DMs, side chats, and after-hours drinks. Whether you’re building your first product or leading a fast-growing team, Off Script gives you a raw and refreshing perspective on the challenges and creativity that shape modern tech. New episodes every few weeks. Subscribe and join the conversation.
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Episodes (20/55)
Off Script
Episode 54: Why awards shouldn't cost a fortune

In this episode, James and Josh discuss the troubling nature of paid awards in the tech industry. They explore how these awards often prioritize profit over genuine recognition, leading to feelings of exploitation among nominees. Thier conversation delves into the implications of such practices on community inclusivity and the need for a reevaluation of how recognition is given in the industry.

  • Paid awards often exploit nominees for profit.
  • The pricing of awards can feel unfair and exploitative.
  • Awards should recognize hard work, not just financial investment.
  • Community representation is often overshadowed by profit motives.
  • Transparency in award processes is crucial for credibility.
  • The perception of value in awards is warped by corporate interests.
  • Decision-makers should reconsider their spending on awards.
  • Alternative recognition methods could be more beneficial.
  • Awards can create a false sense of achievement.
  • The community should benefit from the funds spent on awards.
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1 month ago
13 minutes 22 seconds

Off Script
Episode 53: The power of pen and paper

In this episode, James and Josh discuss the significance of pen and paper in an increasingly digital world. They explore various note-taking techniques, the benefits of physical writing for memory retention, and the importance of managing mental load through effective organization. Their conversation highlights the balance between urgency and importance in task management, emphasizing the need for reflection and prioritization in both personal and professional contexts.

  • Pen and paper are essential for focused thinking.
  • The physical act of writing aids memory retention.
  • Different note-taking methods can enhance comprehension.
  • Digital tools can complement traditional note-taking.
  • Urgent tasks can overshadow important ones.
  • Reflection on notes helps prioritize tasks effectively.
  • AI tools can assist but should not replace personal notes.
  • Concise note-taking is a valuable skill.
  • Managing mental load is crucial for productivity.
  • Taking a step back to write thoughts down can alleviate stress.
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2 months ago
16 minutes 6 seconds

Off Script
Episode 52: Unlocking team potential with user manuals

In this episode, Josh and James discuss the concept of user manuals for humans, exploring how individuals can communicate their preferences, boundaries, and working styles to foster better collaboration in teams. They emphasize the importance of psychological safety, effective communication, and the role of writing in self-reflection and team dynamics. The conversation also touches on managing expectations, delegation, and creating a safe space for open dialogue within teams.

  • User manuals help communicate personal working styles.
  • Psychological safety is crucial for honest communication.
  • Feedback should be given early and often.
  • Writing down thoughts aids in self-reflection.
  • Effective communication requires understanding different styles.
  • Delegation should come with clear information.
  • Creating a safe space encourages team collaboration.
  • Writing is a powerful tool for clarity and thinking.
  • Sharing user manuals can align team expectations.
  • Openness in communication fosters trust and understanding.
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3 months ago
14 minutes 33 seconds

Off Script
Episode 51: Is Test Driven Development actually better now we have AI?

Josh and James discuss the implications of Test-Driven Development (TDD) in the context of the rapid advancements in AI technology. They explore how AI tools are changing the landscape of software development, the challenges of maintaining quality in fast-paced environments, and the importance of balancing speed with safety. Their conversation also touches on the future of coding, the training of new developers, and the evolving role of testing in ensuring robust software solutions.

  • TDD is gaining renewed importance with the rise of AI.
  • AI tools can enhance rapid prototyping but come with risks.
  • Maintaining quality in software is crucial as teams move quickly.
  • The balance between speed and safety is essential in development.
  • Understanding system design and good architecture is foundational for developers.
  • AI can assist in writing tests and fixing bugs effectively.
  • The complexity of production apps increases with user volume.
  • New tools are emerging to support error tracking and testing.
  • Training the next generation of developers is vital in an AI-driven landscape.
  • Investing in TDD and BDD can set teams apart in software development.
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3 months ago
23 minutes 13 seconds

Off Script
Episode 50: The new age of tech job interviews and how to conquer them

In this weeks episode, Josh and James discuss the challenges of securing a job in the tech industry, particularly focusing on the impact of ageism, evolving expectations for tech roles, and the influence of AI on the interview process. They cover the importance of communication skills, personal branding, and the need for candidates to be honest about their abilities. The discussion also highlights the necessity of adapting to the changing landscape of tech jobs and the skills required to succeed in interviews.

  • The tech job market is becoming increasingly competitive.
  • Ageism affects both junior and senior developers.
  • Keeping up with new technologies is challenging as one ages.
  • Expectations for tech roles have broadened significantly.
  • Candidates are often expected to wear multiple hats in smaller teams.
  • AI is influencing how candidates prepare for interviews.
  • Honesty about skills can lead to better job fits.
  • Good communication is essential in tech roles.
  • Building a personal brand can enhance job prospects.
  • Networking and personal connections are crucial for job opportunities.
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4 months ago
25 minutes 27 seconds

Off Script
Episode 49: Navigating the AI discourse — Why can't we talk properly about AI?

In this weeks episode, Josh and James delve into the complexities of the discourse surrounding artificial intelligence (AI), exploring the polarising perspectives that dominate discussions. In a balanced debate, they emphasise the importance of understanding AI as a tool rather than a stand-alone entity, highlighting the need for responsible usage and ethical considerations in its development and implementation. They cover the reality of AI's impact on engineering and the necessity of maintaining a human element in the design process. This episode is a call to action for technologists to navigate the AI hype responsibly and to create strong governance around its use.

The original article that Josh wrote that prompted the chat.

  • The discourse around AI is often polarising and broken.
  • AI is frequently misrepresented in sensational headlines.
  • Understanding AI as a tool is crucial for productive discussions.
  • The reality of AI's impact on engineering is often overstated.
  • Human involvement is essential in the design and implementation of AI.
  • Ethical considerations are paramount in AI development.
  • AI can improve accessibility and inclusivity in products.
  • Navigating the AI hype requires careful evaluation and governance.
  • The importance of productive friction in learning and development.
  • AI's role in software development is evolving and requires adaptation.
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4 months ago
29 minutes 29 seconds

Off Script
Episode 48: AI interoperability and MCP

In this conversation, Josh and James discuss AI interoperability and the concept of MCP (Model Context Protocol). They explore the initial skepticism surrounding MCP, the process of building custom MCP servers, and the importance of permissions and security in AI integrations. The discussion also touches on the future of AI integration in various applications, particularly in shopping experiences, and the potential for these technologies to revolutionise how we interact with digital tools.

  • MCP is a new way to integrate AI with existing tools.
  • Initial skepticism can lead to valuable discoveries in technology.
  • Building custom MCP servers can enhance personal productivity.
  • Permissions and security are crucial when using AI tools.
  • MCP has the potential to go mainstream with the right ecosystem.
  • AI can act on behalf of users, changing the way we interact with technology.
  • Real-world applications of MCP can simplify everyday tasks.
  • The future of shopping may involve AI-driven experiences.
  • AI tools need to be intuitive for non-developers to adopt them.
  • The evolution of technology often leads to a blend of old and new experiences.
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5 months ago
26 minutes 49 seconds

Off Script
Episode 47: Behind the scenes of running a tech conference

How do you structure and run the perfect tech conference? What things are involved behind the scenes that attendees don’t see? What advice would you give to someone looking to start their own event?

We’re glad you asked! This episode is an All Day Hey! Special where hosts, Josh and James spill the beans on what goes on behind the All Day Hey! conference curtain, how we can collectively safeguard the future of events and what makes running a tech conference like this so special.

Join us in Leeds on Thursday, 1st May for this year’s All Day Hey!
Tickets and schedule at https://heypresents.com/conferences/2025

  • 00:00 How to run a conference
  • 01:00 Why start a conference? - The aim behind All Day Hey!
  • 02:00 What do you want to provide for the audience?
  • 03:00 Avoiding trends and providing backed knowledge
  • 04:00 How to plan the day of talks to keep people engaged?
  • 05:00 Dealing with technical blunders
  • 07:00 Process of picking speakers and who to contact
  • 08:00 Avoiding talks being sponsored ads
  • 11:00 Getting diversity of topic and idea
  • 12:00 All Day Hey! is community focussed - how to create this?
  • 13:00 How to open up the networking and make it welcoming
  • 14:00 How to close a conference to provoke questions
  • 15:00 Tips for other organisers
  • 16:00 Investing in production quality
  • 17:00 Setting up a conference in 2025
  • 19:00 Keeping the indie conference alive

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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7 months ago
21 minutes 17 seconds

Off Script
Episode 46: How to plan and run a discovery workshop

What is a discovery workshop and how can they be used to work through problems in your business? In this episode, James and Josh discuss how they've run them in the past and offer some tips and tricks to getting the most out of these sessions.
Listen now for a brand new instalment of Off Script!

  • 00:00 Introduction
  • 01:00 What is a discovery workshop
  • 02:00 Using Miro
  • 02:30 Slideument - slide deck with a documents worth of content
  • 03:00 Use the right medium to foster discussion
  • 04:00 Break workshop sessions into two
  • 05:00 Use other physical spaces to inspire
  • 06:00 Framing the problem but not steering
  • 07:00 Amazon's idea - Write the Press Release
  • 08:00 What are the challenges, resources, and politics?
  • 09:00 What would the bad press be?
  • 10:00 How to be honest and open?
  • 11:00 Creating a safe environment
  • 14:00 Find out what they want from the session
  • 16:00 90 min cycles of energy
  • 17:00 Risk register
  • 18:00 Walk and talk to reenergise
  • 20:00 Keeping discussions on track
  • 21:00 Capturing and processing the data
  • 22:00 Using AI to digitise and distribute
  • 23:00 The next steps
  • 23:30 One Two Three All
  • 26:00 Handy thing to do to unblock

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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7 months ago
28 minutes 4 seconds

Off Script
Episode 45: 2024 developer round-up

It’s time to reflect and plan ahead! James and Josh look back at a tumultuous 2024 in tech and ask the big questions about where things are heading.

What were the highlights?
What lessons can we learn?
How do we prepare for 2025?

Listen now as we kick-off the year with a brand new instalment of Off Script!

  • In praise of indie conferences
  • The struggles of smaller events
  • AWS re:Invent conference
  • Multi Cloud
  • Distributed SQL - DSQL
  • Tough time for tech in 2024
  • All Day Hey!
  • Publishing platforms
  • Tech Influencers
  • Complete CSS - Any Bell
  • Learn with Jason
  • The state of the tech economy
  • Whisper Flow
  • CrowdStrike outage
  • AI, Automation, valid JSON, OLLAMA , Constrained Sampling
  • AI Agents, Cursor IDE
  • SASS is in danger?
  • Adobe Podcast
  • New Ruby on Rails
  • Laravel 11
  • Deno
  • BlueSky

References

  • https://piccalil.li/complete-css
  • https://www.youtube.com/@learnwithjason

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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9 months ago
42 minutes 2 seconds

Off Script
Episode 44: Future of software engineering leadership - Part 2

Part 2 has landed! For this outing of Off Script, Josh and James explore the ‘Future of engineering leadership’.

This is an episode born from Q&A discussions and ideas at the recent Off Script Live event in Leeds. Dive into the modern challenges and the future direction of leadership in software engineering.

  • AI Sustainability
  • Company energy offset
  • Energy demands of AI vs speed of innovation
  • AI on device
  • Apple Siri LLM on device?
  • Loneliness in leadership positions
  • Talk with peers in other companies
  • Lattice HR for feedback
  • Finding your role
  • Event culture
  • Consistency creates community
  • Organiser sets the tone
  • Challenges for future leaders
  • Addressing the gap between vocal and and non vocal team members
  • Communication types
  • Generating positive feedback culture

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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10 months ago
22 minutes 59 seconds

Off Script
Episode 43: Future of software engineering leadership - Part 1

"It's not enough just being right. You've got to actually convince people of your way of thinking and take other people on the journey".

Off Script is back with Josh and James hosting the first episode in a massive two-parter!

They take lessons and hot topics from the recent Off Script Live event in Leeds. Dive into the modern challenges and the future direction of leadership in software engineering in this episode.

Part 2 out soon! Subscribe so you don’t miss it.

Recorded: 27th November 2024

  • Recap
  • re:invent festival
  • AI announcements
  • Event themes
  • Remote & Hybrid working
  • Slack working dynamics
  • Methods of communication
  • Importance of communication
  • Huddle to convey tone of information
  • Reduce crosstalk and chatter
  • Mandating behaviour vs Encouraging participation
  • Sarah Wells Talk - Nudge Theory - LINK
  • Make it easy for people to do the right thing
  • Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion (DEI)
  • Hiring policies
  • Soft Skills in hybrid working
  • Empowering vs washing hands of decisions
  • AI
  • Important to understand the black box
  • Using AI for leadership decisions

Reference

  • https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UxcgywwC4u8

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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11 months ago
27 minutes 56 seconds

Off Script
Episode 42: Imperfect innovation

The historically popular development process of “move fast and break things” has got the biggest companies in the world far. In the age of AI, can we still take these risks in the name of progress or are the potential repercussions too great? Josh and James are joined by guest Jack Sails to discuss.

Recorded: 17th July 2024

  • 02 Open AI fearless implementation
  • 03 Is developing in a vacuum worse?
  • 04 Google move fast and break things becomes more dangerous
  • 05 OpenAI haven't lost trust yet
  • 06 How did OpenAI get its data - Mira Murati
  • 09 Scraping the internet for data
  • 10 A open internet vs private companies
  • 10 ARC browser hover LLM description
  • 11 Imperfect innovation, where does it come from?
  • 11 Innovating to solve a problem vs innovation into unknown areas
  • 12 Microsoft Copilot AI
  • 13 ChatGPT taking over Google as the go-to for questions
  • 16 Kodak & digital images
  • 18 Humans bring value and craft
  • 19 The iPhone was a ipod killer
  • 20 Fearing innovation and protectionism
  • 21 Nokia's lack of smartphone innovation
  • 25 Theranos - Fake it till you make it in medicine
  • 28 Now no one will touch the Metaverse
  • 29 Zoe smart patch and gut tracking
  • 35 Lime Scooters late night testing for alcohol
  • 36 Innovation that's not required
  • 37 Coke's new flavour
  • 39 Segway
  • 42 Cars
  • 43 Napster's innovation

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
48 minutes 8 seconds

Off Script
Episode 41: WWDC 2024 round-up

Jack Sails (IMA) is back with James & Josh to discuss the recent WWDC24 Apple Developer conference. Was AI the word of the conference? Find out as they work through everything revealed this year and how it will affect their products going forward.

In this episode:

  • 00 Intro
  • 01 Apple Intelligence
  • 02 AI & Apple’s Privacy first approach
  • 04 SIRI & Natural language AI integration
  • 06 Natural language vs pre scripted
  • 09 Image Playground AI image creator
  • 10 SIRI x Open AI
  • 12 Genmoji
  • 12 IOS 18
  • 16 Transcribed calls
  • 17 New apps
  • 18 New password app
  • 21 Sequoia macOS
  • 23 Does the UK follow the EU restrictions
  • 24 Supporting old hardware
  • 29 Vision OS 2

References:

  • https://www.macrumors.com/roundup/wwdc/

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
32 minutes 20 seconds

Off Script
Episode 40: Shifting security left

Inspired by reading ‘Investments Unlimited’ and other books built around the principles of storytelling, James and Josh dive into DevSecOps and the bigger picture of shifting security left in this new episode of Off Script!

In this episode:

  • 00:00 Fictional Bugs - Investments Unlimited
  • 01:00 DevSecOps
  • 02:00 Moving security testing to the beginning
  • 03:00 Reducing the friction of releases
  • 04:00 Go through pain points early
  • 05:00 Strict linting, function length, no unused variables
  • 06:00 Early automated tests to prevent Git leaks
  • 08:00 Making it easy for the developer
  • 10:00 Bearer
  • 11:00 Concise reporting
  • 12:00 Dependabot
  • 13:00 Secret Management
  • 14:00 Making it easy to do the right thing
  • 16:00 Having pride in your security
  • 17:00 What if your language doesn’t have much security support?
  • 19:00 Dynamic & Static languages
  • 20:00 Language agnostic tools
  • 21:00 Key takeaways

References:

  • https://itrevolution.com/product/investments-unlimited/
  • https://www.bearer.com/
  • https://github.com/dependabot

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
24 minutes 50 seconds

Off Script
Episode 39: The beauty of side projects

What do fish donuts, a passion for cooking and elaborate recipes have to do with productivity? Are you getting enough of a creative outlet around your busy schedule? Josh and James discuss the importance of side projects and how the variety they add to your week benefits your work-life balance and output!

In this episode:

  • 00:00 Welcome
  • 01:00 What are our side projects?
  • 02:00 Coding
  • 03:00 Cooking
  • 04:00 Josh’s chef stage experience
  • 11:00 Service state - Flow state when coding
  • 12:00 Find your creative outlet
  • 13:00 Find the time
  • 16:00 Adding variety to life
  • 17:00 Book - One Thing
  • 18:00 Having side projects when being a leader
  • 19:00 Consistency

References:

  • https://www.amazon.co.uk/One-Thing-Surprisingly-Extraordinary-bestselling/dp/1848549253

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
22 minutes 8 seconds

Off Script
Episode 38: AI risks

What are AI risks? What do we need to consider when looking at our projects? Josh and James are are back for another episode of Off Script to dig deeper into this important topic!

  • 00 - ISO 42001 Regulation
  • 03 - What are the risks
  • 04 - Hallucinations
  • 05 - How do we critically assess the output
  • 06 - Human in the loop
  • 08 - Authorised API integrations
  • 13 - Prompt Injection
  • 14 - Sleeper agent LLM
  • 18 - Denial OF Service models
  • 22 - Exact phrasing on outputs
  • 25 - Rabbit.tech

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
28 minutes 34 seconds

Off Script
Episode 37: 2023 developer round-up

It’s time for our annual review of the year! In this episode, James and Josh discuss the many twists and turns that the last 12 months brought in this 2023 developer round-up.

Thank you for listening this year. We’ll be back with more episodes in the New Year!

  • 01 A look back at the year
  • 03 The year AI went mainstream
  • 05 Tech layoffs
  • 07 Open AI x Microsoft partnership
  • 08 M2 Apple Mac chips
  • 09 Google Bard
  • 12 Stephen Wolfram wrote "What is ChatGPT doing.. And why does it work?"
  • 13 Web IOS & Ipad
  • 15 ChatGPT Plus & Whisper API's
  • 15 Parallax hosted "stories on the road"
  • 19 React.dev
  • 21 Apple vs Epic Games
  • 22 Meta fined 1.3B
  • 23 EU Cookie policy
  • 24 Final Cut & Logic Pro on IOS
  • 27 Advent of code
  • 28 Chrome added web GPU support
  • 29 Native to web based apps
  • 30 All Day Hey 2023
  • 31 Fluency Bot
  • 32 SEC sue Coinbase & Binance
  • 33 NASA lost connection to Voyager 2
  • 34 Microsoft Type Chat
  • 36 Meta Launched Threads
  • 38 Temporary disabilities
  • 40 Josh joins Glean as CTO
  • 41 Apple launched Name Drop
  • 42 Air traffic control meltdown
  • 43 Hyperdx
  • 44 Webflow Conf
  • 46 WCAG 2.2
  • 47 M3 Macs
  • 49 re:invent
  • 50 Deno KV
  • 51 StyleX
  • 53 iA writer
  • 54 CloudFlare year in review
  • 55 Spotify Wrapped

References:

  • [https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/what-is-chatgpt-doing-and-why-does-it-work/]([https://writings.stephenwolfram.com/2023/02/what-is-chatgpt-doing-and-why-does-it-work/)
  • https://openai.com/blog/introducing-chatgpt-and-whisper-apis
  • https://www.storyblok.com/ev/stories-on-the-road-uk-23
  • https://heypresents.com/conferences/2023/schedule
  • https://blog.jim-nielsen.com/2023/temporarily-abled/

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
58 minutes 31 seconds

Off Script
Episode 36: Tech leadership misconceptions

Are all leaders extroverts? Does agile development mean there is no plan or documentation? Do leaders have to be the best developer? Following on from a recent in-person talk, James and Josh discuss more common tech misconceptions in the area of leadership.

  • 01 Misconception in leadership
  • 01 Leadership is the only way for progression
  • 02 Tech path vs management path
  • 03 Dual track progression
  • 04 Good code is all that matters
  • 05 How teams interact
  • 06 We'll cross the bridge when its comes to it
  • 09 Have to be the best engineer to be a leader
  • 10 It’s not about you
  • 11 Tech skills trump company culture
  • 12 Diversity
  • 14 More developers = more velocity
  • 17 Documentation is less important for agile teams
  • 19 Agile development means no plan
  • 22 All leaders are extroverts
  • 25 Leadership is lonely
  • 27 You don't need a mentor or peers

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
30 minutes 13 seconds

Off Script
Episode 35: Understanding emotional states

Any team will have a variety of emotional states when responding to problems. How do you analyse, understand and make meaningful decisions based on these differences? In this episode, James and Josh discuss different methods of understanding a team’s characteristics and how taking these into account can lead you to getting the best out of everyone.

  • 01 SDIs
  • 01 Strength, Deployment, Inventory
  • 02 Stress states
  • 05 Trickle down management
  • 06 Myers briggs
  • 07 Performance, Process, People
  • 08 Dissecting Josh’s results
  • 12 Using the results within a team
  • 13 Strengths and weaknesses
  • 14 What brings out the best in you
  • 15 Being accountable
  • 16 Applying the findings

Resources:

Find out more about Stac and Parallax:

  • https://stac.works
  • https://parall.ax
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1 year ago
17 minutes 35 seconds

Off Script
Hosted by CTOs Josh Nesbitt and James Hall, Off Script brings you unfiltered conversations about the highs, lows, and lessons of working in tech today. From leading engineering teams and scaling companies, to tackling burnout, bad bets, and breakthrough ideas, this is the show where raw honesty meets experience. Alongside one-on-one conversations between Josh and James, you’ll hear from leaders, builders, designers, and entrepreneurs who aren’t afraid to share what’s really going on behind the scenes — the conversations usually left for DMs, side chats, and after-hours drinks. Whether you’re building your first product or leading a fast-growing team, Off Script gives you a raw and refreshing perspective on the challenges and creativity that shape modern tech. New episodes every few weeks. Subscribe and join the conversation.