Violet’s sharpening her strategy — and her daggers. In this episode, Katya & Katheryn dive into Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros Chapters 8 and 9 (spoilers for Chapters 1 - 9), where survival takes brains, not brawn. From fonilee berry sabotage to dragon lectures and dagger-throwing drama, Violet proves she’s clever enough to outthink her opponents… and maybe even outgrow the people holding her back.
Join us as we unpack Dain’s rule-bound anxiety, Xaden’s mysterious mentorship, and the psychology behind control, courage, and self-acceptance. Plus: who really believes in Violet, and what kind of therapy could possibly help Dain this week?
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Join us as we dive into Chapter 10 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1 - 10), where Violet faces the deadly Gauntlet — a brutal test of strength, focus, and courage. Katya and Katheryn explore the psychology of endurance, fear, and belonging as Violet learns that surviving isn’t just about muscles… it’s about mindset.
From Aurelie’s tragic fall to Xaden’s sharp-edged advice (“The right way isn’t the only way”), this episode unpacks how grief, resilience, and a little bit of squad loyalty can change everything.
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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn dive into Chapters 6 and 7 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1 - 7), diving deep into Violet Sorrengail, Xaden Riorson, and the hidden dangers of the Riders Quadrant.
Violet is mended but not defeated, determined to stay in the Riders Quadrant no matter the odds. Between Brennan’s journal, Rhiannon’s support, and her growing survival instincts, she’s finding her own way forward. But when a late-night berry hunt leads her straight into Xaden’s secret meeting, everything changes.
Join us as we unpack healing, hidden motives, and that charged encounter beneath the shadows.
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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn dive into Chapters 4 and 5 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros (spoilers for Chapters 1-5). From Xaden’s mysterious power plays to Dain’s revealing conversation with Violet, the tension in the Riders Quadrant keeps rising. Violet’s intellect finally earns her some recognition in class, but her victories are short-lived as the brutal reality of Basgiath sets in.
Join Katya and Katheryn as they unpack power dynamics, shifting loyalties, and a sparring match that ends with more than just bruised egos.
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In this episode of Minds Over Magic, Katya and Katheryn discuss Chapter 3 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros. Join us as we explore Violet Sorrengail’s challenges in the Rider’s Quadrant, her friendship with Rhiannon, and the tension with Dain Aetos. This Fourth Wing podcast episode dives into themes of anxiety, belonging, and trust - all shared with humour, insight, and a deep love for Rebecca Yarros’ world.
This episodes contains spoilers for Chapters 1-3.
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In this episode, Katya and Katheryn dive into Chapter 2 of Rebecca Yarros’ Fourth Wing (with spoilers for Chapters 1-2). Violet faces one of the most dangerous challenges yet — crossing the infamous parapet. We talk about the intensity of this scene, the mix of fear and determination it stirs, and what it reveals about Violet’s character.
Our discussion explores the psychology of survival, how anxiety shows up in moments of extreme stress, and the different ways people cope when everything is on the line. We also reflect on how trauma and resilience shape the cadets at Basgiath.
We also share our favourite moments, ask who might need therapy this time, and invite you to reflect with us.
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In our very first full episode, Katya and Katheryn dive into Chapter 1 of Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros. This is where we meet Violet, our unforgettable FMC, along with several other key characters who set the stage for the Riders Quadrant. Katheryn shares her fresh first impressions—seeing the story through brand-new eyes—and unpacks what it means to follow a 20-year-old heroine into a world of dragons, danger, and impossible choices.
Listen in as we explore parental pressure, sibling dynamics, grief, and more—all through the lens of fantasy and psychology.
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Welcome to Minds Over Magic, the podcast where fantasy and psychology meet on the battlefield of feelings and fiction.
Hosted by two friends with very different perspectives, this show dives deep into the world of romantasy — the wildly popular genre blending romance and fantasy. Katya is a lifelong romantasy reader who brings her passion, fan insights, and love for dragons, daring, and slow burns. Katheryn is a psychologist and psychotherapist who is only just stepping into the genre for the first time, exploring its characters and tropes with fresh eyes and a professional understanding of the human mind. Together, they unpack what makes these stories so gripping, what drives the characters’ choices, and why romantasy resonates with so many readers.
For our first season, we’re journeying through Fourth Wing by Rebecca Yarros — chapter by chapter (spoilers for the chapters we’re covering in each episode, and possibly referencing things we talked about in earlier episodes).
Each episode offers a breakdown of the plot as it unfolds, alongside layered discussions of character psychology, relationships, and the wider themes of survival, power, and love. From high-stakes battles and impossible choices to swoony moments and morally gray decisions, we bring both fandom excitement and therapeutic insight to the table.
Expect a mix of lively banter, thoughtful analysis, and plenty of laughs as we navigate everything from dragon politics to messy love interests. Whether you’re a romantasy veteran or brand new to the genre, you’ll find a space here to reflect on why these stories matter — and maybe even learn something about yourself in the process.
Episodes are released weekly. So grab your copy of Fourth Wing, and join us as we explore the magic, the romance, and the psychology behind the pages.
