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Managing Up
Travis Swicegood, Brandon Hays, Nickolas Means
44 episodes
8 months ago
Management tips, stories, and interviews to help navigate the challenges of managing creative and technical teams.
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Management tips, stories, and interviews to help navigate the challenges of managing creative and technical teams.
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Technology,
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Episodes (20/44)
Managing Up
What If Meetings… Were Good, Actually?
In this episode of the Managing Up Show, Brandon, Travis, and Nick talk about meetings. How did they get a bad reputation? How can they be better? And no, the answer is not to abolish meetings, but rather to put the effort into making them actually good.
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1 year ago
1 hour 2 minutes 20 seconds

Managing Up
Moving Past "Hero Culture"
Nick, Travis, and Brandon talk "hero culture" and how that affects teams. What are the drawbacks of encouraging hero culture? How do you draw the distinction between necessary heroism and chronic hero culture? What's the difference between heroism and professionalism? They also discuss common pitfalls of trying to overcome hero culture, and what it means to set a sustainable example.
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2 years ago
58 minutes 35 seconds

Managing Up
Actually Managing Up
OK, fine, y'all win. We finally did the episode of "Managing Up" about managing up. In it, Nick, Travis, and Brandon talk about techniques for managing up, how they're similar to managing your own team members, and how it is sometimes very different. They share books and resources that helped them and talk about how communication, being crisp, and (gasp) _feelings_ play into managing your upward relationships.
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2 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 20 seconds

Managing Up
How We've Changed the Way We Manage in the Pandemic, with Estella Gonzalez Madison
The Managing Up Crew is joined by Estella Gonzalez Madison (@chicagoing) to discuss how they've changed the way they manage since the start of the pandemic 2+ years ago. They discuss tactical changes and how they've changed philosophically during this time, and how they square their own humanity and that of their teams during the last 2 years, as well as how this affects how they plan to manage in the future.
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3 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 59 seconds

Managing Up
Pain, Learning Organizations, and Trainwrecks
Nick, pondering the Texas electric grid and the 2021 power crisis posits the question to Travis and Brandon: What role does pain play in leading teams? What is the role of a manager in managing and reacting to pain on our teams? What are the dangers of hiding or deflecting this pain? This leads to a discussion of processing feedback, helping teams learn from pain, and yes, launching trains at meteors. What roles do curiosity and fear play in managing organizational pain? What role do retrospectives play in this? How do you pronounce "gigawatt"?
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3 years ago
1 hour 5 minutes 1 second

Managing Up
Accountability & Trust in a Distributed World
Travis, Nick, and Brandon discuss the word "accountability". What does it mean? Why has it developed a negative connotation? What's the connection between "trust" and "accountability"? They discuss the sometimes uncomfortable conversations that must take in place before a conversation about accountability can bring real results. They also talk about how remote culture changes the shape of this conversation by removing shortcuts some leaders have leaned on in offices.
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3 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 23 seconds

Managing Up
One on Ones: Beyond the Basics
Nick, Travis, and Brandon revisit the one-on-ones topic from several years ago and go beyond "1:1s 101". The hosts dive past the scripts and formulas to discuss challenges with regular one-on-one meetings with your team. How do you discern "gripe sessions" from a genuine request to intervene? When do you share context vs. listen? How do you get people to shift past surface-level concerns to the most important topics? What are some 1:1 antipatterns? Also: The group restrains themselves to only one Ted Lasso reference.
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4 years ago
59 minutes

Managing Up
"Marketing" Your Team as a Manager
Nick, Brandon, and Travis discuss the term "Marketing" and the myth that doing good work will speak for itself. How can you advocate for your team's work authentically without feeling like you're bragging? They talk about using tracking documents to track and showcase team accomplishments, and why it's important to demonstrate your team's impact, and not just their efforts.
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4 years ago
42 minutes 55 seconds

Managing Up
Inviting Feedback and Creating Psychological Safety
Nick, Travis, and Brandon talk about how they increase psychological safety on teams to create space for a variety of voices, starting by debating the value of "strong opinions, weakly held". They explore the questions: How do you bootstrap trust and safety when joining a team? How can you make space for less vocal team members? What are things managers do that reduce trust within their teams? How can you encourage and receive important and valuable feedback?
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4 years ago
53 minutes 41 seconds

Managing Up
Is "Resources" a Dirty Word?
In this episode, Nick, Travis, and Brandon talk about the word "resources", thinking of humans versus abstract notions of people, and balancing company needs with individual needs. What changes as your role moves further from managing individual contributors?
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4 years ago
56 minutes 29 seconds

Managing Up
Just Culture, Blame, and Accountability
In the last episode we recorded in the "before times", Nick and Brandon discuss the connection between blameless culture, systems thinking, and just culture. Nick explains how blame robs learning, and how to foster an environment that allows the system to learn and improve. They talk about how accountability fits into a blameless culture, and Nick introduces Sidney Decker's idea of Forward Accountability and shifting behavior rather than assigning blame.
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4 years ago
43 minutes 50 seconds

Managing Up
How Much Process Is Enough? How Much Is Too Much?
In another episode recorded in the "before times", Travis talks about finding the balance between not enough and too much process. Is Scrum too much process? How do you tell when process is designed to help versus be a remote control for a team? What if the process is being blamed for other problems? They discuss the signals that tell you when a process isn't working for you and when to modify existing processes versus throw them out.
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5 years ago
57 minutes 54 seconds

Managing Up
The Manager's Calendar
In an episode recorded in "the before times" that we feel is still relevant, Nick suggested we talk about "what to do when you can't do it all". Nick, Brandon, and Travis discuss how the game of "Calendar Jenga" is symptomatic. What happens when your calendar is so full of "valuable" things that you have to choose between lunch or more meetings? Nick talks about using WIP limits to keep your calendar clean, and Travis talks about how designing your schedule is like designing teams.
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5 years ago
48 minutes 4 seconds

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Getting Clarity in Times of Change
Travis, Nick, and Brandon ask: what do you do when you have a sense that things are about to change? What about when your work evaporates due to a startup pivot or major organizational change? They talk about how to help maintain a team's composure and capability during times of uncertainty or lack of clear direction, including leaning on your own manager.
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5 years ago
51 minutes 8 seconds

Managing Up
Breaking the Cycle of "Burnout Debt"
Burnout is a very real problem right now, and is often aggravated in our jobs as managers, ironically in our work to help others avoid burning themselves out. Nick, Travis, and Brandon ask: how do you stop the cycle of overwork that led you to success in the first place? How do you take a break? Once you do, how do you come back to work? They discuss learning to set boundaries and say no, even to things we want. Travis compares burnout to technical debt. Nick explains how systemic thinking can alleviate the "trapped" feeling that can exacerbate burnout.
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5 years ago
59 minutes 52 seconds

Managing Up
Remote Teams, Coping, and Bringing Your Whole Self to Work
Nick, Travis, and Brandon talk about the chaotic and downright scary state of the world and our own prior adjustments to remote work. They discuss ways to lead authentically in these times, and how remote work has helped them learn how integrate life and work (and also, paradoxically, how to keep them separate).
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5 years ago
58 minutes 18 seconds

Managing Up
"Big Picture Strategists" vs. "Tactical Tornadoes"
Travis and Brandon talk about the tendency of software developers to fall into an "overly strategic" or "overly tactical" style of thinking. How do you encourage individuals and teams to consider both near and long term impact in their day to day work? How does team design factor in? What can you do if external factors are causing or aggravating these challenges? Is there a way to achieve balance?
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5 years ago
1 hour 1 minute 28 seconds

Managing Up
Seasonality and Rhythms in Engineering Teams
Nick, Travis, and Brandon talk about the seasonality of work and how that affects individuals and teams. They talk about how they work with low points in the cycle and how to capitalize on the high points, rather than fighting these cycles. How can you change the rhythm when things are flagging _too_ much? What do you do when you can't move dates or deadlines around? When is it OK to ask the team for an "above and beyond push"?
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5 years ago
41 minutes 4 seconds

Managing Up
Creating Self-Managing Teams
Brandon asks Nick about a piece of advice he doesn't even remember giving about teaching teams to manage themselves. Nick, Travis, and Brandon explore tough questions around self-managing teams: How do you know when to let go and when to step in? What is the job of a manager on a self-managing team? How do you deal with micromanagement from above? How do you dig out if your team can't live without you?
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5 years ago
48 minutes

Managing Up
Supporting Early-Career Devs and Defining "Engineer"
Travis and Brandon talk about how teams can support early-career developers and career changers. What environments are they a good fit for? How do you set expectations for newer folks? How can you help them get and stay productive? Is the cost of doing so worth it? They also talk about the surprising lack of definition around the space between "Entry-Level" and "Senior" engineers to define the main role that the rest are supposedly based on. They talk about the Dreyfus model of skill acquisition, how folks get stuck in "Advanced Beginner" stage, and how to help them move to "Competent" and toward real, holistic expertise.
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5 years ago
1 hour 6 minutes 46 seconds

Managing Up
Management tips, stories, and interviews to help navigate the challenges of managing creative and technical teams.