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Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
The Group Travel Leader Inc
88 episodes
21 hours ago
If you’re involved planning, promoting or leading travel, this is a show you won’t want to miss. On each episode, we’ll share expert insights from our decades in travel and feature conversations with some of the most creative, innovative and fascinating people from around the tourism industry. We’ll cover topics such as traveling through challenging times, discovering authentic cultural encounters, developing new opportunities in culinary tourism, modernizing your travel marketing and much, much more. Plus, you’ll get my hot takes on some of the issues impacting travel every day.
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If you’re involved planning, promoting or leading travel, this is a show you won’t want to miss. On each episode, we’ll share expert insights from our decades in travel and feature conversations with some of the most creative, innovative and fascinating people from around the tourism industry. We’ll cover topics such as traveling through challenging times, discovering authentic cultural encounters, developing new opportunities in culinary tourism, modernizing your travel marketing and much, much more. Plus, you’ll get my hot takes on some of the issues impacting travel every day.
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Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
BONUS: Missed the Bus, Changed the World
On this special episode of the podcast, hear how a determined student in Virginia turned a bad morning into a Civil Rights watershed.
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4 days ago
14 minutes 25 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Handling Payments? Don’t Get Swiped!
Fintech guru Greg Bottenhorn joins the podcast to share how to save cash on card processing and protect your traveler's funds on the road.
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1 week ago
51 minutes 56 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
One Vegan Launched a Travel Movement. Here’s How.
Anna McKitrick joins the podcast to share how she turned a personal passion into a thriving vegan tour company.
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3 weeks ago
54 minutes 41 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
A Travel Pro’s Guide to Hiring … and Firing
Destination marketing leader Rebekah Snider joins the podcast to share lessons she has learned about recruiting and tourism professionals.
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1 month ago
51 minutes 31 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
From Startup to Sold: One Tour Operator’s Story
Travel veteran and business advisor Andrea Ross joins the podcast to share how tourism entrepreneurs can overcome challenges and build value.
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1 month ago
53 minutes 53 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
You Need Better Branding — Here’s Why
Design expert Ross Evans joins the podcast to explain why visual branding is key to travel business success — and how to make yours better.
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2 months ago
52 minutes 6 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Is “Mocktail Hour” the Future of Travel?
Tourism pro Darci Murray joins the podcast to share why trips are better without booze — and how she built an alcohol-free tour company.
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2 months ago
50 minutes 44 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Adventure Travel Myths BUSTED

Adventure travel is for everyone — no matter their age or fitness level.



That's what Shannon Stowell believes. As the CEO of the Adventure Travel Trade Association, Shannon is on a mission to help more people discover the joy of adventure tourism and learn how to do so responsibly. He joins this episode of the podcast to bust common myths around adventure travel and help you discover the adventure style that will thrill and delight your travelers..



Shannon discusses how you might be leading adventure travel without even realizing it. He puts to rest the misconception that older travelers don't like adventure and shares a framework for traveling like respectful guests in the places we visit. Plus, we have news about dozens of cancellations from a major cruise line; a Road Tip about making your devices and appliances work well abroad; and a Hot Minute about the unprofessional habits of some travel pros.















Insights from Shannon Stowell



Shannon had lots of ideas about how planners can seek out and deliver enriching adventure activities for travelers of all kinds. Here's what he had to say about what adventure travel really means:




“We did this deep dive study and found that three themes came out clearly to define the core of adventure: nature, culture and activity.



“The beauty of that is it’s accessible to everyone. So an 18-year-old who’s climbing a mountain in Nepal, that’s adventure for them. Somebody up there in years who would love to walk from inn to inn in Ireland — that’s an adventure too. They’re just a little bit different.... I think everyone should have access to adventure."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* Domestic adventure destinations



* The booming growth of the adventure travel industry



* Visiting the national parks in uncertain times





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Connect with Shannon Stowell on LInkedIn.



Purchase Shannon's Book "Riding the Hulahula to the Arctic Ocean" on Amazon.



Learn more about the Adventure Travel Trade Association on their website.



Sign up for our FAM trip notifications here.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:08 — Travel News: Norwegian cancels 40 cruises



2:20 — Road Tip: Using your electronics abroad



8:08 — FAM tour opportunities you don’t want to miss



13:11 — Shannon Stowell’s journey from e-commerce to adventure travel



15:09 — Defining adventure travel for the 21st century



18:04 — Adventure opportunities for older travelers



21:31 — How adventure travel providers are adjusting to today’s marketplace



24:11 — The incredible growth of the adventure travel industry



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3 months ago
56 minutes 20 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Profit Boost: Pro Tips For Your Travel Business

What's the most important part of your travel business? Lauren Rilling believes it's profit.



For more than a decade, Lauren has been helping small business owners solve their companies' financial problems. And she believes that most business owners get into trouble by not prioritizing profit. She joins the podcast today to help you understand how to create and maximize profit in your travel company — and why this is essential to every other element of your business.



Lauren discusses how tour operators can ensure that every trip is profitable from day one. She gives tips about how to turn a travel hobby into a travel business and offers essential strategies for managing the seasonality and cash flow irregularities of the tourism business. Plus, we have news about the Big Beautiful Bill's tourism implications; a Road Tip about selecting the best travel snacks; and a Hot Minute about the skyrocketing costs of tourism conferences.















Insights from Lauren Rilling



Lauren had lots of ideas about how travel business owners can improve their companies' financial performance. Here's what she had to say about paying attention to profit from the very beginning of a company:




“You can really figure out what your expected profit will be ahead of time. You don’t have to take big financial risks. You don’t need a lot of capital to get started.... Know what your profit margins are. Start calculating your costs... And then know what you’re charging people. Then, the remaining amount is your gross profit.



"Gross profit is everything when it comes to tour companies. Knowing your gross profit for each trip will help you know how much you need to charge."









Plus, she had insightful thoughts on:




* Why you shouldn't manage the books for your own travel business



* Whether you should operate tours that don't make money



* How travel business owners should pay themselves





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Learn more about Lauren Rilling at savvystewardship.com.



Contact Lauren at lauren.savvystewardship@gmail.com.



Apply to attend our OnSite familiarization trip in Alabama here.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:13 — Travel News: The Big Beautiful Bill’s impact on tourism



2:44 — Road Tip: What makes the perfect road trip snack?



8:12 — Join us for a trip to Alabama



11:52 — Lauren Rilling’s roots in travel



14:54 — How to know when to turn a travel hobby into a travel business



18:40 — When should you hire a professional accountant for your travel business?



21:20 — Why tourism entrepreneurs should put profit first



23:30 — Planning for profit when your travel business’ income is variable



25:24 — Should you operate tours that don’t make money?



27:45 — Managing cash flow in a seasonable business



30:48 — How travel business owners should pay themselves
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3 months ago
55 minutes 44 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Get the Scoop: Secrets of a Travel Icon

Legendary broadcaster Peter Greenberg is optimistic about the future of travel.



After decades reporting on travel and hundreds of travel shows for CBS News, PBS, Amazon and more, Peter has seen a lifetime's worth of change and evolution in tourism — and he's still excited about the industry's future. In fact, he still travels 300 days a year and loves telling people his secrets for finding deals and inspiring wonder in the American public. He joins this episode of the podcast to help you do the same.



Peter discusses some of the biggest changes that have taken place in travel and how today's tourism professionals can make the most of them. He explains why he's optimistic about the future of cruising and how tour operators can become more profitable by pursuing specialization. Plus, we have news about a new tour company using the Pan Am brand; a Road Tip about hotel snack shops; and a Hot Minute about the new challenges facing the travel industry.















Insights from Peter Greenberg



Peter had lots to say about the mindset of the American traveler — and the Americans who don't travel. Here's his take on why too many people tend to stay home:




“It’s a sad state of affairs that only 38% of Americans have a passport. That means 62% have made a conscious decision not to see anything. That’s a continued sadness, because we live in a global village. I think so much of America has made a conscious choice to be uneducated.... There’s this problem of a lack of curiosity and an overwhelming amount of fear. That combination is lethal."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* How to get the best deals on hotel rooms



* Why COVID made cruising better for everyone



* Why travel prices may start coming down soon





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Learn more about Peter Greenberg and sign up for his free newsletter at petergreenberg.com.



Apply to attend our OnSite familiarization trip in Alabama here.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:23 — Travel News: Pan Am brand takes flight again



2:49 — Road Tip: Why we love the hotel snack shop



7:50 — Meet us on the road this fall



13:05 — Peter Greenberg reflects on a life in travel



16:21 — Inspiring wonder among American travelers



22:17 — The most important travel changes in the last 30 years



28:39 — Are travel prices about to come down?



35:10 — Why specialization is great for tour operators



37:35 — Traveling with heads of state



47:53 — Hot Minute: Should you be panicked about challenges facing tourism?







Watch the Full Interview



See the full interview with Peter, including content not in the regular episode, on our YouTube channel.















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4 months ago
52 minutes 53 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Game-Changing Tech for Travel Pros

Could the right technology platforms put your travel products in front of the customers who want them?



Greg Fisher believes they can. The founder of numerous online travel agency (OTA) and reservation technology (restech) platforms, and author of "Mastering OTAs: The Definitive Guide for Tour Operators," Greg literally wrote the book on how tour operators can use technology to grow their businesses. He joins this episode of the podcast to help you understand the changing travel tech landscape and how it can benefit your business.



Greg introduces tech tools that will help you extend your reach and streamline your operations. He also gives tips on how to make OTAs work for you and insight on why the rise of AI might be great news for small tour companies. Plus, we have news New York's falling tourism forecast; a Road Tip about increasing socializing among your tour groups; and a Hot Minute about the silver linings of decreased tourism.















Insights from Greg Fisher



Greg had lots of insights about what kind of relationship multiday tour companies should have with OTAs and other travel distribution platforms. Here's one thing he had to say about how to optimize your listings for maximum visibility:




“Make sure you have the absolute best photos. Your primary image should have something called a key moment. It’s that perfect, candid photo of the tour. Capturing those key moments, with people having the time of their lives. And the rest of your photos should tell the story of that experience from start to finish."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* Picking the OTAs that are right for your travel business



* How much commission OTAs charge to tour operators



* Why every tour business needs a great restech system





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Find Greg's Book "Mastering OTAs" at masteringotas.com.



Follow Greg on LinkedIn.



Apply to attend our OnSite familiarization trip in Alabama here.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:53 — Travel News: Hawaii is increasing tourism tax because of climate change



3:14 — Road Tip: Eliminating annoying lights in hotel rooms



8:48 — The travel newsletter you can’t afford to miss



14:05 — Why river cruising is booming in popularity



15:17 — How much does river cruising actually cost?



18:54 — How river cruise demographics are changing



21:45 — Are river cruises better than land tours?



22:54 — Can river cruise demand keep up with supply?



24:58 — Can Europe’s rivers sustain the growing level of cruise traffic?



30:50 — River cruising in exotic destinations



34:01 — Should you consider a river cruise in the U.S.?



35:31 — Is river cruising feasible for groups?



48:19 — Hot Minute: Can tourism taxes really affect climate change?
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4 months ago
51 minutes 52 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
BONUS: The Group Travelers Who Made History

In 1961, a group of travelers boarded a motorcoach, and their journey changed the world.



The Freedom Rides were among many important demonstrations and activities that took place in Alabama during the Civil Rights Movement. On this special bonus edition of Gather and Go, we're sharing an episode of the Alabama Civil Rights Trail Podcast that tells the stories of the brave men and women who took the first Freedom Ride and how their courage continues to resonate today.



This episode is brought to you by the Alabama Tourism Department.















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Hear more of the Alabama Civil Rights Trail Podcast and learn more about visiting Alabama's Civil Rights sites at alabama.travel/civilrights.











About the Podcast



Gather and Go with Brian Jewell is a tourism industry podcast that helps group travel leaders plan, promote and lead better trips. There are also tips and insights for destination marketers and others who support the tourism trade. Each episode reaches thousands of professional tour operators, travel agents and the volunteer group leaders they serve. The audience also includes destination museum leaders, church travel leaders and other tourism enthusiasts around the world. Each show includes an interview with a smart travel pro or an insightful person from outside tourism who's expertise can help make travel businesses better. You'll also hear travel news, road tips and more. New episodes are released about twice monthly.



You can find Gather and Go wherever your listen to podcasts or subscribe by email.
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5 months ago
31 minutes 29 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Don’t Miss the Boat on This Travel Trend

It's not just you — everybody really is talking about river cruising right now.



With new and established cruise lines making their way into the market, river cruising might just be the hottest trend in travel in 2025. Colleen McDaniel, editor-in-chief of Cruise Critic, knows exactly why. Colleen joins joins this episode of the podcast to unpack the popularity of river cruising and help you understand how you can make it work for your group.



Colleen explains the core value propositions that make river cruises popular with travelers. She explains how river cruising differs from ocean cruises and land tours, breaks down the economics of cruise pricing and gives tips for booking the river cruise that's right for you. Plus, we have news about rising tourism taxes in Hawaii; a Road Tip about sleeping well in hotel rooms; and a Hot Minute about taxation as a solution to climate issues.















Insights from Colleen McDaniel



Colleen had lots of insights about who is taking river cruises and why the segment seems to be growing faster than any other. Here's one thing she had to say about the demographics of river cruising in 2025:




“I think the demographics are changing. It does tend to be an older crowd, in part because some of the cruises are longer, and younger people might not have the time to get away. But more and more, we are seeing younger cruises on board all the ships that are sailing in Europe. Part of that is that the pandemic changed how people thought about travel. Another reason is because the internet has gotten a lot better. For younger people where getting away from work is really tough, all the sudden working on a cruise ship is doable. And I think that makes a difference."









Plus, she had insightful thoughts on:




* Why river cruises can be more attractive than land tours



* Whether Europe's rivers can sustain the growth in cruise popularity



* Why groups should consider river cruising in the U.S., Asia and beyond





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Visit Cruise Critic online at cruisecritic.com.



Follow Cruise Critic on Facebook and Instagram.



Email Colleen McDaniel at editor@cruisecritic.com.



Sign up to receive our newsletter The Group Travel Minute at grouptravelleader.com/subscribe.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:53 — Travel News: Hawaii is increasing tourism tax because of climate change



3:14 — Road Tip: Eliminating annoying lights in hotel rooms



8:48 — The travel newsletter you can’t afford to miss



14:05 — Why river cruising is booming in popularity



15:17 — How much does river cruising actually cost?



18:54 — How river cruise demographics are changing



21:45 — Are river cruises better than land tours?



22:54 — Can river cruise demand keep up with supply?
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5 months ago
52 minutes 40 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Killing It: One Mom’s Journey from Guide to Owner

What would it take for you to grow in your tourism career?



For Lorna Holland, it took a customer who believed in her. After years as a freelance tour director, Lorna and her husband took a client's idea and turned it into not one but two tour companies. Today they operate TourDCWithUs and VaFeltre Tours in addition to raising a young daughter and managing home life in Italy. Lorna joins this episode of the podcast to tell us about her journey from guide to owner and pull back the curtain on life as a mom and tourism entrepreneur.



Lorna explains why most guides probably already have the skills necessary to launch their own companies. She also explains the economics and challenges of small group travel and gives us an insight on how she balances family life with a busy travel schedule. Plus, we have news about proposed minimum wage hike for tourism workers; a Road Tip about staying in touch with loved ones while traveling; and a Hot Minute about why elite status isn't all it's cracked up to be.















Insights from Lorna Holland



Lorna had lots of encouraging and insightful stories to share about making the transition from guide to owner. Here's one thing she said about realizing what customers really wanted from her trips:




“Many people have told me that what Dante and I are selling is not the tour. We’re selling ourselves. And from that initial click or email or phone call or face on the street, from that moment, they have to realize that they’re buying us and not just buying the Sistine Chapel or the Statue of Liberty."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* The challenges of working with travel vendors



* Why small group tours are all about quality



* The growing trend of women-only group travel





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Learn more about VaFeltre Tours at vafeltre.com.



Learn more about TourDCWithUs at tourdcwithus.com.



Follow Travel with Lorna and Dante on YouTube, Facebook and Instagram.



For information about our OnSite familiarization tour in Kentucky, contact Kyle Anderson at 859-334-1718 or kyle@grouptravelleader.com.











Key Moments From This Episode



2:02 — Travel News: A $30 minimum wage for tourism workers?



3:42 — Road Tip: Staying connected to family when you work in travel



9:49 — A few spots left on our trip to Kentucky



14:58 — How Lorna Holland found her calling as a tour director



19:14 — The inspiration for starting a tour company



20:29 — How a collaborative marriage set Lorna up for business success



21:53 — The skills you need to start a tour company



24:29 — Tapping into women-only travel



28:09 — The economics of small group travel



33:35 — Scaling a company when you are the primary product



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5 months ago
56 minutes 27 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Surfing and Beer? There’s a Tour For That.

Surfing, stretching and drinking... in a group trip?



As a burnt-out fitness professional, Mantas Zvinas was looking for a group vacation that didn't exist. So he created one for himself. That inspired the founding of SurfYogaBeer, a tour company that has become popular among the young and active. Mantas joins this episode of the podcast to tell his group travel story, explain how his trips build friendships between strangers and share tips for aspiring tourism entrepreneurs.



Mantas explains why young people love coming on his group trips (it's not just about the beer) and how he recruits and trains trip leaders to be excellent at facilitating fun and connection. He also explains why the size of a travel group may not be as important as many people think and gives an inside look at how his company attracts new customers. Plus, we have news about a decline in travel to the U.S. from Canada; a Road Tip about using your phone abroad; and a Hot Minute about the ways a government-imposed Big Tech breakup could impact your travel business.















Insights from Mantas Zvinas



Mantas had a great perspective about the real mission of SurfYogaBeer's trips and why they resonate so deeply with customers. Here's what he said about the power of personal connection in group travel:




“It’s all about bringing people together. What we focus on these trips is that camaraderie, and you create that through going through something difficult. But we also play games throughout the day that bring people together.... By the end of day one, you’re so connected with everybody. You’re having a beer and you’re sharing your deepest secrets with somebody you met 24 hours ago."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* Training world-class trip leaders



* Building a company that goes beyond your personality



* The role of great content in travel promotion





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Learn more about SurfYogaBeer at surfyogabeer.com.



Follow SurfYogaBeer and Mantas Zvinas on Instagram.



Connect with The Group Travel Leader on Facebook, Instagram, X, TikTok, LinkedIn and Pinterest.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:50 — Travel News: Inbound travel from Canada is falling



3:20 — Road Tip: Using mobile data when traveling abroad



8:38 — Great follows on social media



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6 months ago
54 minutes 37 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Revealed: Black Travel’s Hidden Heroes

Today's Black travelers are standing on the shoulders of giants. David Jackson is on a mission to make sure these hidden heroes finally get their stories told.



After spending most of his career in hospitality, meetings and destination management, David answered the call to join some colleagues in resurrecting the historic Green Book, a segregation-era resource for Black travelers. David visits the podcast to discuss how Black travel pioneers made history, why their stories matter today and how modern travelers can experience their legacy.



David shares what he and his colleagues are doing to preserve and grow the Green Book. He also discusses ways that tour operators and destination managers can tap into the power of the Green Book to deliver cultural travel experiences that will benefit both travelers and the communities they visit. Plus, we have news about a decrease in travel spending; a road tip about using music to liven up your motorcoach trips; and a Hot Minute about the worst part of air travel in 2025.















Insights from David Jackson



David had lots of great insights about how telling stories from travel's past can impact people's future. Here's what he had to say about the way cataloging Black travel sites could revitalize communities:




“It represents a fresh start. It’s like manna from heaven. You’re saying you can now promote us to a national audience, and folks that are coming into town that didn’t even know we existed can extend their trip or come to the area because of us.... This is a new day. This is a new revenue stream. We have the assets. Now we can promote our destination that has been under served."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* Building a catalog of cultural travel sites



* Partnering with other cultural travel organizations



* How to find Black travel experiences for your group





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Learn more about The Green Book Experience at greenbookexperience.com.



Follow the Green Book Experience on Instagram, Facebook, and X.



Follow David Jackson on LinkedIn.



Get free resources for faith-based group travel at Going On Faith.



Discover more episodes of Gather and Go.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:30 — Travel News: Americans are spending less on travel



2:46 — Road Tip: Liven up your road time with music games



8:38 — A free resource for faith-based travel planners



14:41 — How David Jackson found a new calling late in his career



18:13 — The unsung heroes who paved the way for...
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6 months ago
52 minutes 15 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Now is the Time to Get Into Student Travel

The student travel industry is ripe with opportunity.



Gaurav Namit believes there's unlimited potential for this tourism market segment. As a board member of the Student and Youth Travel Association, and vice president of Four Winds Tour and Travel, he has seen many eras of student and youth travel. Gaurav joins this episode of the podcast to discuss why student travel is so important, what's driving its impressive growth and how travel professionals can get involved.



Gaurav shares how student travel can be transformational in the lives of young people. He also gives his thoughts about student travel's recession-proof growth potential and gives an inside look into the thought process student tour operators go through when selecting destinations. Plus, we have news about a micro-lending fund for tourism organizations; a Road Tip about making the most of boxed lunches on the road; and a Hot Minute about pros and cons of the traditional restaurant tour menu.















Insights from Gaurav Namit



Gaurav offered a lot of perspective about the growing importance of student travel in the educational community and in society at large. Here's what he said about why student travel is surging today:




“The industry has shifted a lot. Student travel 50 years ago was looked at as a massive luxury. But as it has become more affordable and travel has become more normalized, student travel has become critical."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* How student tours differ from adult tours



* Where today's student groups are traveling



* How destinations can attract more student groups to town





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Learn more about Four Winds Tour and Travel at fourwindstours.com.



Email Gaurav Namit at gaurav@fourwindstours.com.



Learn more about the Student and Youth Travel Association at syta.org.



Get free resources for upscale affinity group travel at Select Traveler.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:28 — Travel News: Tourism Cares launches the Meaningful Travel Fund



2:35 — Road Tip: Eating boxed lunches on the road



8:35 — A free resource for upscale group travel planners



13:38 — How Gaurav’s family built a student travel business



18:19 — Why student travel so important — and becoming more so



21:58 — The growth prospects of the student travel industry



25:34 — How student trips differ from adult trips



29:24 — Where student groups are traveling in 2025



32:02 — How to become more attractive to student groups



35:22 — Why new tourism entrepreneurs are flocking to student travel



48:12 — Hot Minute: Is it time to rethink the tour dining menu?







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7 months ago
52 minutes 33 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
The “Super Spenders” Shaping Group Travel”¦ and How to Reach Them
Anna Cashman of GetYourGuide joins the podcast to share exciting new data on how to identify and sell to the best group travel customers.
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7 months ago
54 minutes 47 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Can AI Make You A Better Guide?

Does artificial intelligence spell the beginning of the end of the tourism profession? Or can using AI make you a better guide and help you build a more profitable company?



Micky Kandola believes AI is nothing but good news for guides, tour operators and other tourism professionals. As a veteran tour director, he has found ways to leverage the power of AI to get better and faster at his work, and he loves helping others do the same. Micky joins this episode of the podcast to discuss how travel pros can put artificial intelligence to work in their businesses without sacrificing their unique humanity.



Micky shares how he uses ChatGPT and other AI tools to prepare for tours and create resources his travelers love. He also gives his perspective on why the human touch of group tours is irreplaceable and how travel pros can use AI to find hidden insights in their tour evaluations. Plus, we have news about staffing issues at America's national parks; a Road Tip about the best way to pay for things on the road; and a Hot Minute about the biggest opportunity most travel companies are missing.















Insights from Micky Kandola



Micky had a lot of great ideas about how travel professionals can — and can't — do with artificial intelligence. Here's what he said about the role it can play in group travel:




“On a tour, people need a human contact. The commentary isn’t the most important thing I do. The most important thing I do is connect with my guests and make sure they know they’re taken care of. AI can’t do that.... I see it as a tool, not a replacement."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* The work involved in preparing for a great group tour



* How AI can reveal hidden insights inside trip evaluations



* AI tools that tour directors and tour operators can use to create better guest resources





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Join the Tour Directing and AI group on Facebook.



Follow Micky Kandola on Facebook.



Get free resources for beginning or growing your group travel career on our Start Here page.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:27 — Travel News: Federal hiring freeze may impact travel to national parks



2:51 — Road Tip: The best way to pay for things when you travel



9:15 — Free resources for new group travel professionals



13:49 — Why Micky Kandola embraces artificial intelligence



15:57 — How AI can help tour directors prepare for departures



19:23 — Is AI going to replace tour operators or tour directors?



24:08 — Surprising applications of AI for group travel



27:00 — Using AI to get insights on your post-trip evaluations



32:02 — Creating customized group dining guides in ChatGPT



36:51 — How to handle errors when using AI in tour directing



50:08 — Hot Minute: The biggest opportunity your travel compa...
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8 months ago
54 minutes 29 seconds

Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
Are You Missing This Major Market Segment?

Embracing plus-size travelers could be the key to unlocking big business.



That's the message Jeff Jenkins has spent his life spreading. As creator of the popular blog Chubby Diaries and host of the NatGeo TV show "Never Say Never," Jeff has created a formidable following of people who look to him for advice on traveling while large. He joins this episode of the podcast to discuss how travel companies are missing an opportunity to welcome plus-size travelers into their communities — and how they can fix that mistake.



Jeff shares his perspective on the billion-dollar potential of the untapped plus-size travel market. He also recommends simple ways travel organizations can make their trips more attractive to customers of any size. Plus, we have news about a famous brand entering the river cruise market; a Road Tip about picking the perfect travel water bottle; and a Hot Minute about the biggest way the U.S. government is failing travelers.















Insights from Jeff Jenkins



Jeff had a lot of great insight about how the travel industry is failing to welcome — and capitalize on — diverse body shapes. Here's what he suggested about the untapped potential in plus-size travel:




“42% of America is overweight or obese. We’re looking at 160 million people that you all aren’t catering to at all. I feel like that’s billions of dollars left on the table.... I did an independent study one time where I asked 'If travel was more accessible to you, would you take more trips?' 98% said yes."









Plus, he had insightful thoughts on:




* The cultural forces holding people back from travel



* Simple techniques for accommodating larger travelers



* Why traditional travel marketing is failing companies and their customers





















Resources Mentioned in This Episode



Learn more about Jeff Jenkins at his blog Chubby Diaries.



Watch Jeff's show "Never Say Never" on Amazon.



Get Brian's favorite travel water bottle here.



Apply to attend our OnSite FAM in Savannah here.



See all our FAMs and sign up for email notifications at grouptravelleader.com/fams.











Key Moments From This Episode



1:38 — Travel News: Celebrity is launching a river cruise brand



2:45 — Road Tip: The best water bottle for travel



10:31 — Join us for a FAM trip to Savannah



15:19 — Jeff Jenkins’ mind-blowing travel moment



17:56 — Cultural forces holding people back from travel



19:23 — How travel is catching on in the Black community



24:31 — Are plus-size travelers getting left behind?



27:17 — How big is the potential for plus-size travel?



28:50 — How to make travel more accessible for every body



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Gather and Go with Brian Jewell
If you’re involved planning, promoting or leading travel, this is a show you won’t want to miss. On each episode, we’ll share expert insights from our decades in travel and feature conversations with some of the most creative, innovative and fascinating people from around the tourism industry. We’ll cover topics such as traveling through challenging times, discovering authentic cultural encounters, developing new opportunities in culinary tourism, modernizing your travel marketing and much, much more. Plus, you’ll get my hot takes on some of the issues impacting travel every day.