In this interview with Viva Frei I talk about my path from freedom activism to Bitcoin. I was born in Israel in 1980 to a family of Holocaust survivors and builders of the early state. During COVID I watched Israel impose coercive measures like the Green Pass and saw a sign that said “Reserved for vaccinated only.” It reminded me of my grandfather’s stories from pre-war Europe and pushed me to protest. That experience made me study freedom more deeply, especially in money. I learned how fiat, inflation and fractional-reserve banking rob people, then discovered Bitcoin as sound money with fixed supply and no central control. I explain how it differs from crypto and from CBDCs, and why self-custody is the foundation of sovereignty. For me Bitcoin is not just money, it is a stand for human freedom.
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This interview on Viva’s Rumble channel: https://rumble.com/v70qdei-live-from-lugano-plan-b-in-switzerland-w-efrat-fenigson-and-prince-filip-ka.html
Viva on Rumble: https://www.youtube.com/@VivaFrei
Viva on YouTube: https://rumble.com/user/vivafrei?e9s=src_v1_cbl
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-- CHAPTERS –
0:00 - Coming Up…
01:34 - Efrat’s Background and Family History
05:31 - Protesting Covid’s Green Pass in Israel
08:26 - Efrat’s Intro to Bitcoin & Gold
11:26 - Fiat Money, Inflation & Sounds Money
20:09 - Major Difference Between Crypto & Bitcoin
22:49 - Bitcoin’s Decentralization & Satoshi’s Story
24:49 - CBDCs vs. Bitcoin
28:19 - Future of Bitcoin & Potential Risks
33:19 - Conclusion
My guest today is Nick Anthony, a policy analyst at the Cato Institute, a fellow at HRF, and one of the clearest voices dissecting CBDCs, financial privacy, and government overreach. He authored the book “digital currency or digital control?” and advocates for freedom and privacy. In this episode, we explore how governments use propaganda to sell CBDCs as “digital cash,” despite public resistance, and how pilots in China and The Bahamas reveal low adoption and rising coercion. Nick explains why control is a universal temptation across democracies and autocracies, and how the Bank Secrecy Act created 55 years of normalized financial monitoring in the United States. We discuss the distinction between stablecoins and CBDCs, the slow global rollout of digital currencies, and why Bitcoin’s censorship resistance remains essential, alongside other freedom tech tools. He also shares insights from his work maintaining HRF’s CBDC Tracker, his visit to the European Parliament, and his warning that even if CBDCs fail, today’s financial system already operates as a surveillance regime.
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Cato Institute Twitter: https://x.com/CatoInstitute
HRF’s CBDC Tracker: https://cbdctracker.hrf.org/home
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up…
01:39 - Meet Nick Anthony: Policy Analyst & CBDC Critic
03:03 - What Problems CBDC Pretends to Solve?
04:48 - CBDCs: Problems and Propaganda
08:03 - Real-World Examples: China & The Bahamas
13:59 - Ad Break: Trezor, BitVault & Abundant Mines
16:39 - Stablecoins vs. CBDCs: A Critical Comparison
21:56 - The Future of CBDCs, And Bitcoin's Role
24:13 - Financial Privacy, Bitcoin and Cash
31:54 - Message to CBDC Legislators
33:08 - Nick’s Visit to the EU Parliament
35:08 - How To Explain Why We Need An Exit
36:53 - Wholesale vs. Retail CBDCs
My guest today is Diana, she is the co-founder of Bitcoin House Bali and organizer of the Bitcoin Indonesia Conference. She left a corporate life in Germany in 2022, sold her belongings for Bitcoin, moved to Bali, and began rebuilding local Bitcoin adoption through practical education and community infrastructure. In this episode, we look at the realities in Indonesia: bank accounts closed after short inactivity, constant transaction monitoring, restrictions on moving money across islands, and limited financial agency for women. Bitcoin offers sovereignty in that environment. We discuss the role of women in integrating Bitcoin socially, the expansion to 38 meetups across Indonesia, and the aim of decentralizing leadership. We also cover lessons from running a national conference under bureaucratic pressure, and what it means to work in a place where censorship and instability are already visible.
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-- LINKS –
Diana’s Twitter: https://x.com/bulebitcoin
Bitcoin House Bali Twitter: https://x.com/btchousebali
Bitcoin Indonesia Website: https://bitcoinindonesia.xyz/
Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up…
01:10 - Introduction to Diana
03:40 - Starting Bitcoin House Bali
10:10 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
11:34 - How Diana Educates Locals
14:14 - How Bitcoin Helps Protect People & Human Rights
20:00 - Encourage Women to Join Bitcoin
25:29 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
27:42 - Lessons from Organizing a Conference
32:00 - Future Vision for Bitcoin in Indonesia
36:00 - Personal Lessons From Diana’s Journey
39:20 - Efrat on the Changing Financial System
41:20 - Quickfire Questions & Closing Thoughts
My guest today is Alan Miller, co-founder of the Together Association, a nationwide civil-liberties movement ensuring the public—not technocrats—remain at the heart of politics. Alan’s career spans four decades of creative and civic entrepreneurship: from pioneering acid-house parties and co-creating London’s cultural hub The Old Truman Brewery, to co-founding the Night-Time Industries Association and leading the #OpenForAll campaign during lockdowns. In this conversation, we discuss UK’s policy on free speech, protest rights, Digital ID, Net Zero, Low-Traffic Neighbourhoods, and more. We examine how COVID-era controls became a template for centralization, why free speech and privacy form the core of democratic accountability, and how technology can either entrench surveillance or empower autonomy through open protocols like Nostr and Bitcoin. Alan makes the case for an active citizenry, analog-digital parity of rights, and a future where liberty is defended not by elites, but by the public itself.
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Alan's Twitter: https://x.com/alanvibe
Open letter petition: https://together.eaction.org.uk/directors
All Digital ID related activities: https://togetherdeclaration.org/campaigns/no-to-digital-id/
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:38 - Alan Miller's Background
03:11 - The Impact of COVID-19 on Social Life
05:40 - Vaccine Passports The History of ID’s
12:09 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
13:31 - UK: Current Status & Digital ID Concerns
19:30 - Global Technocratic Influences22:15 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
24:27 - The Risks of Digital ID & Centralized Systems
35:00 - Public Resistance
37:40 - Freedom Tech Innovations: Nostr & Bitcoin
44:00 - 12K Arrests in UK for “Non-Crime Hate Incidents”
55:00 - Actions You Can Take & Upcoming Events
1:04:00 - Finding Hope in Collective Action
My guest today is Richard Byworth, Managing Partner at Syz Capital, bridging traditional finance with Bitcoin. With over 25 years in global investment banking and asset management, Richard now spearheads Syz’s $300m digital asset strategies and hosts the *Syz the Future* podcast. He’s also a Board Member at Relai, and an advisor to JAN3. In this conversation, he unpacks the moment the 2008 crisis revealed the flaws in fiat money, his early dismissal of Bitcoin, and how conviction finally took hold in 2018. We discuss the launch of Syz’s Bitcoin-denominated fund, the internal resistance it faced, and how it became the firm’s most successful product launch. Richard explains why “one Bitcoin equals one Bitcoin” and why he believes Bitcoin treasury companies act as the release valve for a mispriced financial system. We explore his views on ego in finance, intuition in decision-making, spiritual dimensions of Bitcoin, and his conviction that Bitcoin represents not just an investment—but hope, and a benevolent force for human progress.
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-- LINKS –
Richard’s Twitter: https://x.com/RichardByworth
Richard’s LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/richardbyworth/
Syz’s Website: https://www.syzcapital.com/en
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:32 - Episode 100 Milestone & Intro to Richard
05:05 - Realizing the Money System is Broken
09:56 - Ego in Traditional Finance
13:03 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
14:24 - Ego & Learning in Finance
16:51 - Intuition vs. Rational Analysis in Career Decisions
20:58 - Launching a Bitcoin Denominated Fund
29:36 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
31:50 - Bitcoin Treasury Companies & Financial System Mispricing
41:58 - How Richard Sees Bitcoin & Defunding Fiat
47:18 - Bitcoin Allocation & Adoption Growth
51:48 - What Matters In Life - Personal Growth, Empathy, Introspecting
56:28 - Who Is a Great Manager
59:18 - Bitcoin as a Spiritual Tool
1:02:08 - Rapid Fire Questions
My guest today is Knut Svanholm, author, educator, and philosopher focused on Bitcoin. Drawing on ethics, praxeology, and monetary history, Knut argues that sound money reduces conflict by aligning human action with natural law and voluntary exchange. In this episode, he explains why fiat banking already functions like a CBDC system in practice, why cash preserves privacy but not liberty, and why real freedom requires self custody and non-KYC Bitcoin. We explore his critique of custodial “paper Bitcoin,” the case for non-custodial adoption over treasury companies, and his view of Bitcoin as intellectual armor that raises the cost of violence. Knut outlines a practical path away from banks, explains why stablecoins can be a bridge yet remain fiat, and why a low-time-preference culture of quality over quantity matters.
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-- LINKS –
Knut’s Twitter: https://twitter.com/knutsvanholm
Knut’s Nostr: https://primal.net/knutKnut’s Website (10% off with code EFRAT): https://www.bitcoininfinity.com/
Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:23 - Introduction to Knut
03:40 - Current Affairs: Stablecoins & CBDCs
06:55 - Cash & Fiat vs. Bitcoin
08:20 - Ethics of Money, Natural Law, First Principles
10:00 - Conflict Resolution via Violence Or Communications
13:12 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
15:30 - Bitcoin as Intellectual Armor
20:30 - Knut’s Take on Bitcoin Treasury Companies
23:11 - Ad Break: Abundant Mines & Expat Money
27:39 - Mass Adoption & Future Outlook
29:46 - Transitioning to a Bitcoin-Only Reality
34:44 - The Psychological Manipulation of Obedience
39:05 - Hope & the Shawshank Redemption Metaphor
42:43 - Bitcoin as a Tool for Human Freedom & Hope
48:12 - Closing Thoughts & Acknowledgements
My guest today is Max Kei, former private banker and founder of Debifi, the world’s largest non-custodial Bitcoin-backed lending platform for institutions. With over a decade in private banking and deep experience building peer-to-peer Bitcoin infrastructure at Hodl Hodl and launching the Baltic Honeybadger conference, Max has become a leading voice on how Bitcoin will reshape global finance. In this episode, he explains why banks will adapt to Bitcoin rather than be destroyed by it, how Switzerland is quietly becoming the prototype for Bitcoin-banking integration, and why non-custodial finance is essential to prevent the next FTX-style collapse. We explore the tradeoffs between custodial and non-custodial systems, the security advantages of three-of-four multisig for institutional loans, and why stablecoins act as both a lifeline in emerging markets and a gateway to a full Bitcoin standard.
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-- LINKS –
Max’s Twitter: https://x.com/keidunm
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:20 - Introduction to Max Kai: Bitcoin Pioneer
04:50 - Baltic Honey Badger Conference Origins
10:27 - Ad Break: Trezor & BitVault
11:50 - Bitcoin’s Community Ethos, Mission & Conferences
19:00 - Max’ Intro to Bitcoin Through A Client
20:50 - Gradually Moving From Fiat To Bitcoin
30:40 - When Will Banking Join Bitcoin?
32:53 - Switzerland's Role in Bitcoin Banking
38:03 - Rehypothication, Non-Custodial, Multisig Solutions
42:01 - Flexible Lending Platforms & Security Measures
56:13 - Max’s Take On Stablecoins: A Bridge to Bitcoin
1:08:18 - Max Motivations, Aspiration & Hope
My guest today is Allen Farrington, writer, investor, and co-founder of Axiom, a Bitcoin-focused venture capital firm backing companies that use Bitcoin as real infrastructure rather than speculation. Allen co-authored “Bitcoin is Venice” and “Only the Strong Survive” and draws on a background in math, philosophy, Austrian economics, and long-term equity investing to explain why Bitcoin is both a technological breakthrough and a venture opportunity hiding in plain sight. In this episode, he shares why he believes the most valuable startups will use Bitcoin as invisible plumbing for payments, energy, and financial services rather than marketing themselves as “Bitcoin companies.” We explore why current stablecoin systems break under real demand, how Lightning and Taproot Assets enable issuer competition and scalable payments, and why the long arc ends with e-cash and Bitcoin-native money. Allen frames Axiom’s edge as “temporal arbitrage”: investing early where technical understanding and adoption are low, anticipating that in a decade the market will recognize the value created by Bitcoin-based infrastructure.
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-- LINKS –
Allen’s X: https://x.com/allenf32Axiom Website: https://www.axiombtc.capital/about
Efrat's Twitter: https://twitter.com/efenigson
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 - Coming Up
01:12 - Introduction to Allen
03:20 - Discovering Bitcoin & Career Trajectory
12:03 - Ad Break - Trezor & BitVault
15:22 - Investment Philosophy & Lightning as Inspiration
17:52 - Company and Investment Selection for Axiom VC
30:12 - Stablecoins & Regulations
37:32 - Why Most Stablecoin Systems Fail At Scale?
44:50 - The Importance of Stablecoin Issuers
51:16 - Stablecoins on Lightning & Taproot Assets: A New Approach
1:01:23 - The Future of Digital Money: E-Cash
1:05:47 - Steps to Migrate From Fiat To Bitcoin
1:10:28 - Companies to Watch in the Bitcoin & Lightning Space
1:16:43 - Allen Loves What He Does & Why He Does It
My guest today is Max Hillebrand, praxeologist, cypherpunk, and open-source advocate dedicated to building freedom tech that empowers individuals through economic and technological sovereignty. As a contributor to projects like Bitcoin Core, Wasabi Wallet, BTCPay Server, JoinMarket, Lightning Network, Bisq, Angor, White Noise, and Amethyst. In this episode, Max shares his journey from Austrian economics into Bitcoin privacy, recounting how tools like CoinJoins, Wasabi, and the Taproot upgrade push Bitcoin closer to true anonymity. We explore the battle between fiat and freedom, the broken incentives of inflation and war, and why opting into Bitcoin is both a moral imperative and a form of resistance. Max also introduces Nostr as the communications layer for a censorship-resistant future, explains the axioms of human action, argumentation ethics, and resistance, and highlights why he believes we now have the technological weapons to end modern financial slavery in our lifetime.
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-- LINKS –
Max’s Website: https://towardsliberty.com
Max’s Nostr: npub1klkk3vrzme455yh9rl2jshq7rc8dpegj3ndf82c3ks2sk40dxt7qulx3vt
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-- CHAPTERS –
00:00 – Coming Up
01:23 – Intro to Max
05:56 – Max Passion for Austrian Economics
06:56 – Bitcoin: Bridging Economics with Computer Science
11:16 – Building Freedom Tech
14:16 – CoinJoin and Bitcoin Privacy
18:56 – Legal & Regulatory Challenges for Privacy Tech – Samurai, Tornado, Wasabi Wallet
26:36 – Why Is Privacy Important?
29:06 – Economics of Wars & The Broken Window Fallacy
41:23 – The Value of Cash and Fiat Currency
45:38 – Moving to a Bitcoin Standard & Influence on Businesses
50:03 – Max’s Take on Bitcoin Treasury Companies
52:03 – Nostr & Decentralized Protocols
1:00:03 – “White Noise” - Building Nostr Private Encrypted Messaging
1:04:48 – Austrian Economics Axioms: Human Action, Argumentation, Resistance
1:13:10 – Max’s Book Recommendations & Reasons to Stay Hopeful
My guest today is Alena Vránová, entrepreneur, author, and builder of freedom tech who has spent over a decade pioneering tools that defend both digital and physical sovereignty. She co-founded SatoshiLabs (Trezor’s mother company), which launched the world’s first commercially available hardware wallet, joined the Casa Node team to make running Bitcoin and Lightning easy, and co-authored The Little Bitcoin Book, a global bestseller introducing why Bitcoin matters for freedom and finance. Today, she is building GLOK, a project dedicated to protecting Bitcoiners against kidnapping, extortion, and physical threats. In this episode, Alena shares her journey from legacy finance into Bitcoin, recounting how she helped establish an entirely new market for hardware wallets. We discuss the ongoing attempts to co-opt Bitcoin through regulation and confiscation, the dangers of KYC and data leaks, and why physical security is the next frontier for Bitcoiners worldwide. Alena also reflects on the role of women in Bitcoin, the growth of a truly global community, and why she believes building tools for self-defense—digital and physical—is essential for human freedom
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00:00 - Coming Up
01:40 - Intro to Alena & Her Background
08:27 - Alena’s Journey Into Bitcoin
11:08 - Building Trezor: Pioneering Hardware Wallets & Their Importance
19:17 - Bitcoin Nodes: From Fringe to Mainstream
22:37 - The Little Bitcoin Book
29:08 - The Inevitable Evolution of Bitcoin: Regulation, Co-opting, Confiscation
36:27 - Tech Innovation in Bitcoin
40:02 - Kidnapping, Extortion & “Glok” - Alena’s New Security Project
45:07 - Operational Security Checklist
48:07 - Kidnapping Use Case & Glok’s Deterrent Solution
59:17 - Women’s Safety in Europe
1:00:17 - Empowering Women Generally & in Bitcoin
1:11:27 - A Pronoic Mindset: Alena’s Hope for the Future
This episode is a recording of the great panel I moderated at Baltic Honeybadger 2025. Willy Woo, Max Kei & Preston Pysh break down ETFs, treasury strategies, custody risks, CBDCs, and why self-custody still matters most.
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My guest today is Francis Pouliot, long-time Bitcoin advocate, cypherpunk entrepreneur, and CEO of Bull Bitcoin, Canada’s leading Bitcoin-only exchange. Known for his uncompromising stance on self-custody, privacy, and resistance to state overreach, Francis has been a vocal defender of Bitcoin’s founding ethos for over a decade. He is also a key figure in Bitcoin Jungle, a circular economy in Costa Rica where hundreds of merchants transact daily in Bitcoin. In this episode, Francis shares how his background in Austrian economics and libertarian politics, combined with the wake-up call of COVID, led him to relocate from Canada to Costa Rica. We explore the creation and growth of Bitcoin Jungle, why farmers markets are fertile ground for adoption, and how his “scale versus compromise” framework guides strategic decisions in building Bitcoin infrastructure. Francis opens up about the tension of running a regulated exchange while opposing KYC, his mission to make self-custody as seamless as custodial services, and why Bitcoin’s payments layer is as critical as its store-of-value function. He dismantles the “Bitcoin is hijacked” myth spread by Roger Ver & others, addresses skepticism from the red-pilled community, and explains why barter and cash cannot scale for true financial freedom.
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00:00 - Coming Up…
01:18 - Intro to Francis & His Covid Wakeup Call
05:38 - Costa Rica During Covid
06:38 - Francis Interest in Austrian Economics & Libertarianism
09:08 - Francis Journey Into Bitcoin & Bull Bitcoin
13:08 - Private Property & Self-Custody
17:18 - Efrat’s Revelation of the Fiat Scam
20:58 - The Birth of Bitcoin Jungle Circular Economy
30:38 - Custodial vs. Non-Custodial Bitcoin Solutions
35:18 - The New Revolution: Build Tech That Creates New Reality
40:48 - The Circular Community in Costa Rica & Globally
45:48 - Bull Bitcoin: Freedom vs. Compliance & Regulation
53:38 - Struggle Between Scale & Compromise - Cypherpunk Values
1:00:38 - Understanding Bitcoin: Overcoming Skepticism & Claims Against It
1:04:08 - Shortcomings of Cash, Barter, Gold
1:07:48 - Roger Ver Attempt To Hijack Bitcoin and Damage to Bitcoin & Freedom Community
1:18:08 - Can Bitcoin Be Coopted By Those Who Hold The Most Bitcoin?
1:21:08 - Resist By Minimize Interface With Fiat/Matrix/Institutions
My guest today is Bob Burnett, veteran technologist, former Gateway CTO, and now CEO of Barefoot Mining. From consumer tech pioneer with eight U.S. patents to leader in sovereign Bitcoin mining, Bob shares his vision for “wild mining,” where miners own their energy using innovative energy sources. He challenges the myth that mining is only for massive corporations, showing how small, strategically placed operations can be both profitable and decentralizing. We discuss adoption curves, block template decentralization, why nation-states should build mining infrastructure before buying Bitcoin reserves, lessons from the early PC revolution, and the coming energy race with AI and High-Performance Computing.
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00:00 – Coming Up
01:29 – Bob’s Background & His Long Tech Career
05:15 – Bob’s Patents & Innovations, Early Adopter Mindset
10:00 – Leap Frog Into New Tech Frontiers - AI & Bitcoin
14:00 – PC As Prerequisite For The Internet Revolution
17:00 – Good & Bad Actors
19:00 – Why Bob Chose Bitcoin Mining
21:10 – Bob’s Bitcoin Mining 101 Explanation
25:00 – Why Bitcoin & Barefoot Mining?
34:20 – Smaller Scale 0.5-5MW “Wild” Mining Sites Can Be As Cost Effective As Larger 50-200MW Sites
39:40 – Barefoot Mining Expansion
41:40 – The Energy Landscape and Bitcoin Mining
43:44 – Opportunities for Small-Scale Mining
46:39 – Meaning of HODL & Role of Citizens in Bitcoin
48:24 – Key Trends in Bitcoin, Inc. Template Creation
54:54 – Political Implications & Weaponization of Bitcoin Mining
1:00:54 – Economic Sovereignty through Mining
1:04:36 – The OP_Return Debate & Facilitating Change
1:12:06 – Bob’s Hope for the Future
My guest today is the internationally renowned chef Pete Evans, bestselling author, and outspoken advocate for regenerative health and personal sovereignty. He built a successful career in the culinary world with over 30 cookbooks and award-winning restaurants, and after shifting to regenerative health and holistic wellness, he became one of the first high-profile figures to be widely deplatformed. In this episode, Pete shares how his journey from celebrity chef to wellness crusader began with a shift to ancestral eating that radically transformed his health. We dive into his clash with mainstream media, his exploration of psychedelics and spiritual growth, and how Bitcoin became the missing link in his pursuit of holistic sovereignty. Pete explains why Bitcoiners might hold the key to a global health revolution, and how financial freedom and health are deeply intertwined. From detoxing modern life to building vitality through conscious choices, Pete calls for radical accountability and curiosity.
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00:00 - Coming Up…
01:20 - Introduction to Chef Pete Evans
06:08 - The Impact Pete Made Using Ancestral Diets
12:58 - Pete Becoming Public Enemy No. 1 In Australia & Facing Media Backlash
15:05 - The Health-Media-Money Incentive Structure
18:05 - Media’s Role During Covid Hysteria
21:15 - Impact of Cancel-Culture on Pete: Personal Growth
34:55 - Bitcoin Entering Pete’s Life
40:44 - Health, Vitality & Bitcoin: Insights & Reflections
45:44 - The Intersection of Regenerative Health & Wealth
51:44 - “Sprayed”, Geo-engineered Food & Health Impacts
1:01:32 - Thoughts, Beliefs & Leaning In To Uncertainty
1:13:54 - Interested In A Retreat in Australia?
1:16:54 - Living in the Present & Celebrating Uniqueness
My guest today is Preston Pysh, engineer, Apache helicopter pilot, partner at Ego Death Capital VC, and co-founder of The Investor’s Podcast Network. Known for co-hosting “Bitcoin Fundamentals” podcast and authoring several books on investing, Preston is one of the most influential voices in the Bitcoin space. In this episode, Preston shares how his systems-thinking mindset and background in military aviation led him to identify Bitcoin early as a superior store of value. We explore the emergence of Bitcoin treasury companies, how public markets are being rewired from within, and why financial engineering inspired by MicroStrategy’s playbook could unlock asymmetric returns for institutions and retail alike. Preston unpacks the mechanics behind mNAV models, risk-adjusted performance, and why stablecoins could be a threat but also a necessary step in Bitcoin’s adoption curve. He reflects on the spiritual and psychological shifts required to truly “get” Bitcoin, the importance of hope, and the dangers of institutional inertia. This is a conversation about clarity, conviction, and how Bitcoin is remapping the future of capital allocation, gear by gear, company by company.
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– CHAPTERS –
00:00 Coming Up…
01:33 Intro to Preston & His Influence on Bitcoiners
05:05 Hope & Freedom For Younger Audience
07:58 The Superspreader Phenomena - Bitcoin’s Treasury Companies
09:44 Risk Management & Complex Systems Experience
16:25 Understanding Value in a Financial Landscape
25:48 Corporate Adoption of Bitcoin & Treasury Companies
31:42 How Saylor Built a “Transmission” with Strategy
37:34 The Product: High Yield Income
47:34 Public Markets: The Perfect Landscape
51:26 Treasury Companies: Target for Governments
56:51 The Transitioning Financial Systems: From Fiat to Bitcoin, Via Stablecoins & CBDCs
1:04:32 The Fiat System's Impact: Doom & Gloom Outlook
1:06:21 The Future of Monetary Order by 2030
1:11:05 Will KYC Fade Out? And Link to Taxation
1:14:35 Short Fireside Questions - Books, Focus Areas
1:20:05 The Nature of Good and Evil Forces
1:24:34 What’s Preston’s Role Today & In The Future
My guest today is Eric Weiss, founder of Blockchain Investment Group and one of the earliest institutional investors in Bitcoin. In this episode, Eric shares how his background as a proprietary bond trader and early internet VC led him to Bitcoin in 2013, and how he eventually played a key role in orange-pilling Michael Saylor. We explore the rise of Bitcoin treasury companies, the structural tax advantages driving public Bitcoin adoption across countries like Brazil and Japan, and the global capital shift from legacy equities to Bitcoin-backed firms. Eric offers a grounded take on Bitcoin’s role as a store of value, argues against the need for it to replace fiat currencies, and explains why stablecoins could reinforce U.S. monetary dominance. He reflects on Stoic philosophy, personal responsibility, and the ethics of building something that benefits everyone. This is a conversation about conviction, sovereignty, and why the future of finance is being quietly rewritten, one balance sheet at a time.
00:00 Coming Up…
01:10 Meet Eric Weiss: Early Bitcoin Institutional Investor
02:25 Eric’s Role in The Bitcoin Ecosystem
06:02 The Impact of Bitcoin Treasury Companies On Bitcoin Adoption?
08:00 Eric’s Path: From Wall Street to Bitcoin
13:00 The Emotional Rollercoaster of Early Bitcoin Investing
16:40 People Get Bitcoin in The Right Time For Them
19:04 What Does Success Mean to Eric?
21:46 The Musical Chairs of the Monetary Order
26:00 Bitcoin + Stablecoins: A Future Financial Operating System?
28:53 Will the U.S. Face Global Pushback Over Dollar Dominance?
34:00 CBDCs Will Accelerate Bitcoin Adoption
37:56 Why Bitcoin? A Moral and Ethical Mission
39:16 Michael Saylor, Friendship, and Shared Vision
47:00 Life Beyond Bitcoin: Travel, Chess & Meditation
49:00 Eric’s Advice to New Bitcoiners
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My guest today is Kevin McKernan, a renowned genomicist and biotech pioneer, founder of Medicinal Genomics and contributor to the Human Genome Project. In this episode, Kevin exposes his discovery of DNA contamination in COVID-19 injections, revealing Pfizer's bait-and-switch between clinical trials and mass production, with SV40 viral sequences and bacterial DNA deliberately hidden from regulators. We discuss his journey from sequencing the first cannabis genome to becoming one of the most censored voices in vaccine safety research, and his battle against captured agencies like the FDA and EMA. Kevin shares his findings on persistent spike protein production, rising cancer rates, and excess mortality in heavily vaccinated populations like Japan. We also explore his vision for decentralizing science through Bitcoin and peer-to-peer technologies, drawing parallels between cellular respiration and ATP to Bitcoin's proof-of-work system. Join us for this conversation about scientific fraud, regulatory capture, and building censorship-resistant systems to reclaim both genetic integrity and scientific truth from corrupt institutions.
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Our guests today are Pierre and Morgen Rochard, co-hosts of the “Bitcoin for Advisors” podcast and leading advocates for integrating Bitcoin into long-term financial planning. In this episode, Pierre shares how Austrian economics and open-source philosophy led him to Bitcoin in 2012, and how his new venture, “The Bitcoin Bond Company”, aims to unlock institutional credit markets using sound money. Morgen reflects on her background in traditional finance and explains how she helps individuals match long-term goals with long-term assets like Bitcoin. We discuss the cultural clash between fiat excess and Bitcoin values, the growing trend of corporate treasury adoption, and the risks of financialization without education. Pierre and Morgen break down the freedoms enabled by Bitcoin, and caution against over-leveraging and chasing returns. Above all, this is a conversation about financial sovereignty, purposeful planning, and bridging old systems with a better monetary future.
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00:00 Coming Up…
01:10 Introducing Pierre & Morgen Rochard
02:30 Reflections on Vegas & The Bitcoin Conference
05:30 Wall Street, Nation States & Individual Adoption
06:48 From a Doomer Mindset to A Constructive Transition
10:20 Discovering Bitcoin: Their Personal Journeys & Austrian Economics
14:30 What Makes Bitcoin Special?
17:35 How Bitcoin enables rational decision-making
19:20 Bitcoin Bond Company Explained: Bridging Traditional Finance
27:00 Spiritual Foundations for Honest Money
28:45 Biggest Risks and Rewards for Bitcoin
33:45 Financial Education & Financial Planning
36:35 Ripple/XRP Lobbying & Misinformation Campaigns
41:30 Ripple Funding $5m for Anti-Climate Anti-Bitcoin Campaign
44:10 Bitcoin Treasury Companies: The Trend
49:40 How to Build a Bitcoin-Aware Portfolio
54:00 Most Memorable Research at Riot
59:50 Finding Hope in God, Family & Community
My guest today is Susie Violet Ward, CEO and co-founder of Bitcoin Policy UK, a financial analyst and journalist (Forbes) focused on Bitcoin and the environment. In this episode, Susie unpacks the regulatory hostility toward Bitcoin in the UK, from the FCA’s refusal to distinguish it from crypto, to the media’s relentless misinformation, especially by the BBC. We discuss her personal journey from accountant to developer to Bitcoiner, and the uphill battle of educating regulators, advocating for mining, and defending financial sovereignty. Susie shares her efforts to expose flawed climate narratives, resist CBDCs, and challenge the FATF Travel Rule’s surveillance overreach. We also explore the risks of mining centralization, media capture, and why misunderstanding at the top is often worse than malice. Above all, this is a conversation about standing up for truth, pushing back against state overreach, and building a decentralized future, one policy at a time.
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00:00 Coming Up…
01:10 Introducing Susie & Bitcoin Policy UK
06:30 Current Bitcoin Policy & public adoption in the UK
11:10 The State of Mainstream Media and Bitcoin Sentiment
12:45 Bankers & Politicians Understanding of Bitcoin
14:30 Susie’s FOI with The BBC
19:00 UK Legislation & Regulation Concerns
20:00 Dangers of KYC & the FATF Travel Rule, and MiCA
26:00 Belief in the System, Leading To Mass Surveillance & CBDC
29:50 Taxation and Privacy in the Digital Age
35:00 Centralization Risks of Bitcoin Mining - clip 37
38:00 The Digital Pound / CBDC Developments
41:40 “Climate Change” Policies
44:30 The Importance of Studying Bitcoin
46:15 Susie’s Message of Hope
My guests today are JD and Britney, the couple behind “American Family Road Trip”, a faith-led family of ten living full-time on the road in a self-renovated bus. Since 2018, they’ve embraced a life of minimalism, homeschooling, and Bitcoin, all while raising eight children across the backroads of America and beyond. In this episode, JD and Brittney share how leaving behind their 7,000-square-foot house gave them the freedom to invest fully in their family, faith, and values. We explore their approach to road schooling, generational legacy, and why time is the most precious currency. They also reveal how Bitcoin aligns with their philosophy of sovereignty, self-reliance, and long-term thinking, and how it inspired JD to launch SatSaver, a seed phrase encryption solution for self-custody. Above all, this is a conversation about choosing intentionality over comfort, building strong family culture, and raising children equipped with tools, not baggage.
► This episode is part of the "Bitcoin Vegas 2025 Special" in collaboration with Ben Samocha, Founder of Israel’s CryptoJungle and Crypto Talks podcast.
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00:00 Coming Up…
01:35 Meet JD & Britney Lott: A family of 10 traveling in a converted bus
04:12 Why Transition From a 7,000 Sq Ft House to a Renovated Bus?
06:15 The Philosophy of Freedom vs. Security
08:50 Parenting and Core Values Vs. Society’s Expectations
12:32 Discovering Bitcoin & Long Term Vision
20:00 Education Priorities & Kid’s Exposure to Screens
23:54 Introducing Sat Saver - Encrypted Seed Phrase
30:10 Road Schooling and Family Focus
31:12 Homeschooling Methods and Travelling to Educational Sites
39:20 Challenges and Adventures on the Road
45:15 Advice for Families Considering Road Tripping
51:00 Final Thoughts & Reflections