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Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Olivia Mangione and Grace Heller
166 episodes
6 days ago
Two high quality gals (Grace Heller and Olivia Mangione) discussing low quality TV and anything else that comes to mind.
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Two high quality gals (Grace Heller and Olivia Mangione) discussing low quality TV and anything else that comes to mind.
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Episodes (20/166)
Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
FINALE - BIP (2025)

Hey remember Bachelor in Paradise? That thing that had it's finale like 2 weeks ago? Well we finally got our shit together to post our recap of the dramatic conclusion to the season and here it is for your listening pleasure! Ultimately an oddly satisfying end to an odd season. We are now ready for a break, there's a whole lot of life happening out there and while we love spending hours on end talking about reality TV, we're also looking forward to other stuff. That is until DWTS starts in literally 2 days....

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1 month ago
1 hour 20 minutes 51 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Episodes 8 and 9 - Bachelor in Paradise (2025)

Another double episode! A lot in happening in our lives and on our screens! This week we try to put ourselves in the contestants shoes and think about how we would handle these challenges. The answer seems to be, not any better than those suckers. Only one episode left after this one, buckle up folks!

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2 months ago
1 hour 44 minutes 13 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Episode 7 - Bachelor in Paradise (2025)

Okay we probably should have edited this one more, but ultimately lacked the drive and motivation and also wanted to get it published so you guys can finally listen to it! This episode the producer's games continue, our complaints continue, Kim being unbearable to watch but also impossible not to support continues. We think we are inching toward the finale of this season and cannot wait to see the remain twists and turns that the show has in store!

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2 months ago
1 hour 19 minutes 39 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Episode 6 - Bachelor in Paradise (2025)

OOPS THE FILE WE UPLOADED BEFORE WAS BAD. Genuinely not quite sure how that happened.... as you all know we are typically a well oiled machine around here. Anyways, here's take 2!


Okay well we don't have Taylor Swift announcing a new album on our podcast, but we think you should listen anyways. Yet again we are forced to give it up for the producers who took over the show (Grace was devastated to learn it was likely a man) as we stay having a good time. Our fingers are crossed for even more chaos as the season continues!

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2 months ago
1 hour 18 minutes 23 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Episodes 4 & 5 - Bachelor in Paradise (2025)

We took so long to find a time to record that another episode rolled around. Therefore we decided to combine our recaps of the two so that you all would get your content as soon as possible. The only problem with doing this is sometimes Grace forgets about what has already happened vs what still has yet to happen. Oh well.


Seems like maybe these two episodes were the last ones of the classic paradise structure, so we tried to enjoy them and soak them in as best we could!

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3 months ago
1 hour 55 minutes 30 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Episodes 2 & 3 - Bachelor in Paradise (2025)

We deserve whatever award they give to podcasters for keeping this week's episode under 2 hours. We truly did not think we had it in us, there was SO MUCH to cover!!


This season is not disappointing, we'll say that much. Consider us hooked. Can't wait to see where the rest of the season takes us, and can't wait to bring you along for the ride :)

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3 months ago
1 hour 52 minutes 47 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Episode 1 - Bachelor in Paradise (2025)

We're baaaaaaack and brief as ever! We basically had nothing to say about how excited we are that paradise is back and all the crazy changes and who the cast is. Honestly we didn't really care and had no opinions it's pretty whatever to us.


PSYCH. WE HAVE SO MANY THOUGHTS AND WANT TO TELL YOU ALL OF THEM. We hope you are looking forward to joining us for another fabulous BIP season on the beaches of Mexico. Sorry. Costa Rica.


Also Grace decided to try a new audio set up that she instantly regretted. Very sorry for experimenting it will never happen again. If you power through this episode the audio will be back to our usual stellar quality next week.

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3 months ago
1 hour 54 minutes 32 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
FINALE!!! THE BACHELOR!!! GRANT!!!

So is it just us or was the most shocking part of this episode seeing Clayton on our screens again?


Well folks, it is time to wrap up another season of this great show we call The Bachelor. It always seems to just fly by. Now Grant and Julianna are off to make their way in the world together and Litia will likely be in a relationship with a hot Mormon athlete before you can say "The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints." We now have a little time to relax and recoup before possibly the greatest season of BIP ever???? We are practically foaming at the mouth we can't WAIT.


If you followed along this season, thank you, we love you, you'll always get our final rose <3

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7 months ago
1 hour 21 minutes 47 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Fantasy Suites - The Bachelor (Grant)

Anders isn't part of this episode and we're as disappointed as you are about it. We hope you enjoy the episode anyway, at least as best you can given the circumstances. We yet again have questions for production this episode, such as, why did you do that? Will you hire us? And what did Zoe ever do to you?


xoxo Grace and Liv

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7 months ago
1 hour 27 minutes 25 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Women Tell All - The Bachelor (Grant)

Well this is what we get for being excited for Women Tell All. Disappointment. Liv and Grace were not always on the same side this episode because they were on different team.

Liv's team = reasonable in terms of right and wrong

Grace's team = what makes a good storyline for TV

Unfortunately everyone lost because it was not interesting TV nor was any justice served. They basically didn't even show Chloie! What was the point??

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7 months ago
1 hour 12 minutes 18 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Hometowns - The Bachelor (Grant)

We are both very tired and fear we have to admit it shows in this episode. The number of times we had to trail off because the simple word we were looking for eluded us... was a lot.... This week the Mormons were SO Mormon and the Italians were SO Italian. Hometowns marks the beginning of the end of the season and leaves us wondering "what the heck are Zoe and Dina doing here?"

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8 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 33 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Week 5 - The Bachelor (Grant)

On this week's episode, Siri cannot stop making appearances, and we are forced to confront that we do not actually know what the word "Celtic" refers to. Apologies for being uncultured swine. Grant continues to baffle and bamboozle us as he carries on down the road towards hometowns.

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8 months ago
1 hour 17 minutes 45 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Week 4 - The Bachelor (Grant)

We are absolutely cruising through this season! Did you know there's only one episode left before hometowns?? WTF?? This episode we truly never knew what was coming next. There is a new playbook in use and someone forgot to loop us in. The world is entirely falling apart and maybe we shouldn't be taking comfort in a show that is truly returning to it's heteronormative patriarchal ways with this season, but it's too late and you can't stop us!!! (cue laughter mixed with screaming)


xoxox Liv and Grace

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8 months ago
1 hour 13 minutes 46 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Week 3 - The Bachelor (Grant)

This week we are excited to talk about Grant's burgeoning music career and perhaps a little about the episode as well. Just a warning, our video call was on a slight delay so there are some pauses in the conversation while we wait for the audio to catch up. We were hoping we played it off smoothly, but listening back.... we did not.... Every time you hear an awkward pause, take that time to curse Xfinity in your mind.

xoxo

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8 months ago
1 hour 28 minutes 12 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Week 2 - The Bachelor (Grant)

Well, it's that time of year again. The time of year when Grace is working on a play and therefore our recording schedule gets completely out of whack. Also when her watching schedule gets completely out of whack. We are nevertheless going to try our darnedest to get episodes out as quickly as we can!! Continue to stay tuned, we haven't forgotten about you we promise.


xoxo Grace and Liv

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8 months ago
1 hour 19 minutes 17 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Night 1 - The Bachelor (Grant)

Limos and lamas and violent t shirt canons, oh my! Grant's season start off strong with many, many smooches and some fun entrances. Grant is already proving to kind of be the strong, silent type, so it'll be up to this cast of women to stir things up. We have no doubt they are up to the task.

We are so excited to be back and recapping yet another Bachelor season for you all, and we hope you have as much fun listening as we did recording!

As always, we love you lots! xoxo

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9 months ago
1 hour 16 minutes 25 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
The question game with Grant's cast (ft. Mason Lok!!)

Okay we are SO back this time!! We biffed it on recapping the Golden Bachelor and we will be the first to admit it, but we can and will do better! That resolution starts with our favorite pre-season tradition, the question game with Mason Lok! As usual, he knows nothing about the show, we know too much! We're the perfect combination.

Another resolution Grace has is to stop saying "like" so much. Hate to sound like a boomer, but it is truly horrifying to listen back to.

Check out the ABC cast bios to follow along on this episode with us, and don't miss the premiere of Grant's season this coming Monday, January 27th at 8:00pm!

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9 months ago
1 hour 11 minutes 55 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
The Golden Bachelorette (weeks 1-3)

Okay we are finally back, and are sorry it took us so long! We decided to adopt the same recording schedule for The Golden Bachelorette as we did for The Golden Bachelor last year, without realizing they increased the episode length (those bastards!!). Therefore you are all getting a nearly 2 hour episode sprung on you on a random Monday morning in October. Enjoy!



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1 year ago
1 hour 49 minutes 55 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
FINALE - THE BACHELORETTE (JENN) (ONE OF THE CRAZIEST THINGS WE'VE EVER SEEN)

Holy shit you guys, where to even start. Neither of us saw this one coming, and suffice to say our shit was rocked. Also we recorded this on Friday (9/6) so this recap doesn't even include some of the shit that is still storming (apologies there, but how were we to know)???


The injustice that Jenn has been faced with time and time again on this stupid show. And the way she has handled all of it without stuttering once??? One of the most horrible seasons of the bachelorette of all time (for her), but one of the greatest bachelorettes of all time (dare we say)?


We need to lie down after this one.

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1 year ago
1 hour 36 minutes 42 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Fantasy Suites (and a little MTA) - The Bachelorette (Jenn)

Hi team, so sorry this is late!! Grace ran into some very minor computer issues, but all is well now. Please enjoy this slightly rushed recap of Fantasy Suites and the main highlights of Men Tell All. We did suffer through it this time around, and you know we HATE to do that! We wish Jenn's top 3 were not in fact her top 3 but what can you do?? Justice for Hakeem!!!

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1 year ago
1 hour 29 minutes 46 seconds

Wrong Reasons with Liv and Grace
Two high quality gals (Grace Heller and Olivia Mangione) discussing low quality TV and anything else that comes to mind.