Astrologer Sydni Deveraux joins host Jenn Zahrt from Oakland, California! Embrace the spirit of a Gemini Moon and tune in as the pair chat about the gift of growing up within orb of Astrology et al (a Seattle-based bookstore owned by Maggie Nalbandian!), books, and more, including: the fascinating world of horary astrology (and the Facebook groups you never knew you needed); triangulating between evolutionary sources; and the importance of understanding planetary cycles. Plus: podcasting with doggies Lamont and Young Meatball, diving into the cosmic deep end, and…how do you pronounce IKEA??   Sydni Deveraux joins Episode 107 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded September 2025):   00:01 – Jenn introduces our new Patreon page: https://www.patreon.com/caeliinstitute!! For less than a cup of coffee, you can become a Friend, getting frequent behind-the-scenes updates not shared on social media or elsewhere. It's like a PG-rated OnlyFans for astrology books! Or upgrade a teeny bit for print issues of The CAELi Review!   02:09 – Sydni Deveraux is a newer astrologer. She has Virgo Rising with a culminating Gemini Moon and is ridiculously curious. Sydni works for NORWAC (Northwest Astrological Conference) and is an ISAR (International Society for Astrological Research) board member.   07:15 – The very first astrology book that Sydni ever purchased was Pluto, Volume I: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul by Jeffrey Wolf Green.   14:05 – If Sydni could bring only three books to a deserted island, her first pick would be one covering medical astrology. (How serendipitous! Jenn selected A Handbook of Medical Astrology by Jane Ridder-Patrick in Episode 39, Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!)   15:10 – Sydni’s second choice would be Horary Astrology: Your Ultimate Horary Textbook with 124 Example Cases by Ema Kurent. (Side note: The work of Anthony Louis is wonderful!)   18:02 – The third title Sydni would bring is On the Heavenly Spheres: A Treatise on Traditional Astrology by Helena Avelar and Luis Campos Ribeiro. (And enjoy the trip to Electional Astrology by Vivian Robson!)   20:12 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   25:41 – For beginners, Sydni recommends Predictive Astrology: The Eagle and the Lark by Bernadette Brady, Planets in Transit: Life Cycles for Living by Robert Hand, and Green’s Pluto, Vol. I. She also suggests reading books on mythology and the Moon!   32:43 – Find Sydni at: https://www.ddastrology.com/. She’s also on TikTok (@divine.deveraux), Instagram (@theshowgirlastrologer), Facebook, and YouTube (@DivinelyDeveraux).   34:48 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and researcher Madam Faraluna joins host Jenn Zahrt from Argentina! Tune in as the two chat about astrology books and more, including: learning the mechanics behind star stuff; synchronicity; the elements; and time as a construct. Plus: synastry, physics, and the importance of chart data!   Madam Faraluna joins Episode 106 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded October 2025):   00:12 – Madam Faraluna is a humanistic astrologer, researcher, and esoteric popularizer, bridging East to West decoding the natal chart. She’s also a mum, loves astrology, and enjoys helping people.   00:58 – Madam Faraluna’s very first astrology book was El Gran Libro del Horóscopo by Marta Carreras.   03:33 – If Madam Faraluna could bring only three books to a deserted island, her first pick would be Synchronicity: An Acausal Connecting Principle by C. G. Jung. (Check out the English translation by R.F.C. Hull.)   04:12 – Madam Faraluna’s second choice would be Astrology for Dummies by Rae Orion.   09:35 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   10:22 – The third title Madam Faraluna would bring is By Jove! The Meaning of the Astrological Jupiter by Liz Greene. (Greene’s Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil also earns a mention. And she loves Astrology, Psychology and the Four Elements by Stephen Arroyo.)   23:11 – For beginners, Madam Faraluna recommends Marta Carreras’s El Gran Libro. But she also likes the work of Stephen Arroyo, Tito Maciá, and Dane Rudhyar.   24:06 – Find Madam Faraluna’s info at: https://linktr.ee/madamfaraluna.   28:00 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer, educator, and musician Gemini Brett joins host Jenn Zahrt from Berkeley, California! Tune in for an uplifting episode as Jenn and Brett cover the living sky, books, and more, including: shamanic astrology; mysteries hidden in plain sight; sacred geometry; and the astrology chart as a musical composition. Plus: the out-of-bounds Moon, stories from Chaco Canyon, and… can we bring a ruler, a compass, and a musical instrument on the journey??   Gemini Brett joins Episode 105 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded October 2025):   00:12 – Gemini Brett is a leader in the movement to re-nature astrology by integrating our two-dimensional charts with the infinite living sky. He is a world-renowned astronomy-for-astrologers authority, shamanic StarryTeller, and inspiring educator. Brett’s terrestrial translations of the celestial conversation, expressed through the ancient arts of sacred geometry, musical harmony, embodied astronomy, and number magic, activate seasoned sages as much as they initiate students new to the cosmic curriculum. Brett is the president of the San Francisco Bay Area chapter of NCGR and the winner of the 2020 OPA Orion Award for Outstanding Contribution to Astrology.   03:17 – Brett’s very first astrology book was The Shamanic Astrology Handbook by Daniel Giamario with Cayelin Castell. (And a hat tip goes to The Tarot Handbook by Angeles Arrien.)   06:23 – If Brett could bring only three books to Chaco Canyon, his first pick would be the Quadrivium compilation (published by Wooden Books with six titles from the series). Specifically, Brett appreciates A Little Book of Coincidence in the Solar System by John Martineau - but they’re all amazing!   16:06 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   16:53 – Brett’s second choice would be The Mystery of the Cathedrals by Fulcanelli.   18:16 – The third title Brett would bring is The Real Book, which is a compilation of jazz standards.   34:59 – Before recommending an astrology book, Brett would ask the student why they’re learning astrology – but he often suggests Giamario’s The Shamanic Astrology Handbook. Brett also likes The Heavens Declare: Astrological Ages and the Evolution of Consciousness by Alice O. Howell.   41:03 – Find Brett, his School of Earthstrology, and the Constellations Community at: https://geminibrett.com/. And learn more about his Song of the Soul project with master pianist Erik Deutsch at: https://www.chartsong.com/.   44:14 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Rewinding back to an eclectic and fascinating episode: Astrologer and author David Leskowitz sits down with host Jenn Zahrt to chat about centaurs, asteroids, and books! Learn about: using the Davison chart with centaurs; the outer planets and humanity’s readiness to work with that archetype; stationary Vesta in Aquarius; a Pholus story; when the planetary symbol and the poetic symbol coalesce; relocating a progressed chart; black holes; bibliomantic divination, and more! Plus: when the planetary gods find you; Bucky Fuller’s geodesic dome; and… are we our parents’ transits crystallized in human form?     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Nov. 2023):   00:01 – Jenn offers a quick intro – and tune in for new episodes starting next week!   01:28 – David is a beyond modern astrologer with an interest in the Centaurs and outer planets. He believes that Chiron and kin are more than just symbols in a birth chart, but life-affirming guides to the Cosmos. (We’re excited that he also has an anthology on this topic!) Additionally, David has practiced meditation and energy healing for much of his life.   02:27 – What was David’s first meaningful astrology book? He initially remembers reading a Vedic astrology text by Bepin Behari. Later, Dane Rudhyar’s The Magic of Tone and the Art of Music made its way into his orb. Finally, Noel Tyl’s intro to astrology books (namely, The Principles and Practice of Astrology series) helped David get his bearings from a psychological, humanistic worldview.   06:47 – Should David find himself stranded on M87, the first book he’d bring with him would be The Astrological Neptune and the Quest for Redemption by Liz Greene. His Piscean nature feels the call!   08:02 – David’s second selection is The Yavanajataka, an ancient book in Indian astrology. Finally, he’d have the time to study this text and give it the attention it deserves!   08:36 – Thirdly, David would take along Inside Planets by Ellias Lonsdale, a book which Ellias channeled with his departed beloved; this one examines the consciousness of the planets. (Enjoy the side trip to Jenn’s mention of A Graphic Ephemeris of Sensitive Degrees by Eleanor Bach.)   14:00 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   14:46 – Our duo discusses David’s work with the Centaurs and sensitive degrees.   23:38 – David’s class on the DRC (Davison Relationship Chart) method can be found here.   25:28 – Another book that David loves is Astrology: A Language of Life, Volume 1 – Progressions by Robert Blaschke. It’s wonderful; dense, but short!   29:01 – David will soon be publishing an anthology of the Centaurs, Sideways From Saturn: Astrological Guidance From the Centaurs, which is currently available for order from Praesepe Press. You can catch him soon for a book talk about this project at CAELi! (One more reason to become a CAELi member! 😊)   29:19 – Lastly, David’s recommendations for beginners include: Inside Degrees: Developing Your Soul Biography Using the Chandra Symbols by Ellias Lonsdale; the Pleiadian degree series (The Circular Temple) by John Sandbach; Chiron and the Healing Journey by Melanie Reinhart; Chiron: The Wisdom of a Deeply Open Heart by Adam Gainsburg; Steven Forrest’s work, especially Yesterday’s Sky; and the work of Jeff Green.   38:01 – Learn about David’s work at: https://centaurs.space/ and https://centaurhealing.earth/.   38:26 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If

One more from our vast archives: Astrologer, author, and podcaster Issachar Bey joins host Jenn Zahrt from San Antonio, Texas to chat books and more! This wide-ranging conversation brings you within orb of oodles of star stuff, including: Uranian astrology; how the glyphs have meaning; the Trans-Neptunian “planets”; geodetic astrology, relocated charts, and making your Jupiter line come to you; significators and dispositorship; the cheat code to life; blending Sabian symbols with various levels of progression; holographic transits and pattern returns; the idea of mapping out the degree-symbol systems; astro-theology; and using the Capricorn ingress. All that, plus: coming out of the star closet, using astrology to win, and… can we bring a Kindle and a charger to the deserted island??     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2024):   00:01 – Jenn offers up an intro for this comprehensive and fascinating episode! And learn about Rod Suskin’s master series class on primary directions at www.isarastrology.com!   02:25 – Issachar Bey is the founder and spiritual director of the Temple of Enlightenment International Spiritual Center. The author of four books, Issachar is also a minister, life strategist, and radio and podcast host. Issachar has spent over 20 years advising people around the world with consultations personally designed to assist them in creating their own reality using his Manifestation Methodology. The Temple of Enlightenment International Spiritual Center is a global community dedicated to teaching New Thought Ageless Wisdom – recognizing, honoring, and nurturing the dignity and uniqueness of all people.   08:06 – Issachar’s first astrology book was recommended by his teacher: Alan Oken's Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology. This one is like a Bible to Issachar; he loves the way Oken breaks everything down from A to Z. And amazingly, both Jenn and Issachar took parallel tracks and were studying the same book in the late 1990s! (To hear Jenn’s episode, check out Episode 39, Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!) The duo also takes a quick side trip to a great beginner book: The Only Way to Learn Astrology by Joan McEvers and Marion March.   09:58 – If Issachar were stranded on a deserted island, which texts would he bring? His first pick is The Language of Uranian Astrology by Roger A. Jacobson. This one keeps him sharp, and new readings always bring new insights!   12:58 – The second title that Issachar would bring is Geodetic Astrology for Relocating and World Affairs by Chris McRae. He finds this one phenomenal and loves the world maps. (Nick Campion’s The Book of World Horoscopes also gets a mention!)   17:45 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   18:32 – Issachar’s third selection is volume 21 in Jean-Baptiste Morin’s series, Astrologia Gallica: The Morinus System of Horoscope Interpretation, which has been translated many times. The way that Morin breaks down a chart and how to interpret it is incredibly helpful. (The Rules of Chart Interpretation by Rod Suskin also gets a nod by Jenn here, as it’s based on Morin’s work.)   22:44 – Issachar has many runners-up, including: Christian Astrology by William Lilly, Vocations: The New Midheaven Extension Process by Noel Tyl, the Dial Detective by Maria Kay Simms, and Abu Ma'shar Al-Balkhi’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities (

As Jenn and Jen celebrate another trip around the sun this week, enjoy this April Fools’ Day treat from the archives: CAELi's executive director Dr. Jenn Zahrt sits down in the hot seat with producer and guest host Jen Braun! In addition to founding the Celestial Arts Education Library, Jenn is an astrologer, author, publisher, poet, translator, and teacher. In this one-of-a-kind, personal interview, Jenn shares the significant life event that had her questioning her spirituality at a tender young age, and the history and mission of CAELi. Join the double Jennns as they chat about: rescuing multiple book collections; granular research into various editions of the same text; astrology as nouns and verbs; herbs, planets, and astrological medicine; how temperament fosters tolerance; writing daily horoscopes; the concept of beginner’s mind when learning astrology; the pencil-thin astrology book you didn’t know you needed; the importance of humanistic astrology; multiplicity in what many think of as “traditional astrology”; Liz Greene’s hidden gem; and fusing medieval astrology with solar arcs and midpoints. All that, plus: anthropological fantasies, eating jalapeños for anger, and… jam with us if you owned a Walkman, too!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Feb. 2024):   00:01 – Jenn introduces the show! Happy birthday to us!!   01:18 – Dr. Jenn Zahrt, PhD is an author, publisher, and teacher of cultural astronomy and astrology. In 2022, she wrapped up a five-year jaunt as an Honorary Research Fellow at the Sophia Centre for the Study of Cosmology in Culture at the University of Wales Trinity Saint David. She is an Emerita Trustee of Kepler College and has joined their faculty! She also serves as President for the International Society for Astrological Research (ISAR). Her publishing company, Revelore Press, has multiple books forthcoming, so stay tuned! Jenn founded the Celestial Arts Education Library in 2021, and curates over 10,000 volumes of astrological books, journals, and newsletters. Learn more about CAELi at: www.caeli.institute.   02:02 – Learn about the winding pathway that led Jenn to found CAELi, the rare volumes housed at the library, and why becoming a CAELi member is a win-win! (And the book that jumped off the shelf at Jenn back in the day was Der Geist der Astrologie or The Spirit of Astrology by Oscar A. H. Schmitz, which helped to get her book gears turning!)   12:00 – Hey, you! Yeah, you there, reading these show notes! Will you please help others find the show? It just takes a sec, so go ahead: rate Within Orb five stars, write a cute little review, follow the show in your favorite podcatcher, engage with us on YouTube, and/or buy that astrology book you’ve been craving over at bookshop.org. And thanks for listening – without you, we wouldn’t have a show! So, you rock. And roll!   14:49 – Want to sponsor a show on Within Orb? Let’s connect! Reach out at: podcast(at)withinorb(dot)com   15:01 – Jenn’s first astrology book was Alan Oken’s Complete Astrology: The Classic Guide to Modern Astrology. After being grounded as a teen, she headed to the bookstore to buy this title, along with an ephemeris (a now well-worn copy of The American Ephemeris for the 20th Century at Midnight by Neil F. Michelsen to be precise), an atlas for the Americas, an atlas for the rest of the world, and The Koch Book of Tables also by Neil F. Michelsen. Astrology and Alan were answering big questions in a satisfying way! (And thanks to high sch

We’re dipping into the archives this week: Astrologer and herbalist Maeg Keane joins host Jenn Zahrt from Salem, MA in a conversation centered around plant and planet devotion work and how to bring the stars closer! Maeg offers a wonderful list of books (including one that is yet to be born) and sinks into the power of words through hymn. Plus: emulating the ancients, star omens, and drinking rose tea to cozy up to Venus!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded August 2023):   00:01 – Jenn Zahrt offers a brief intro. (And thanks for supporting the show!)   00:54 – Maeg kicks us off with a big, “Thank you, Aurora!” The first astrology book they ever read was Lesbian Love Signs: An Astrological Guide to Women Loving Women by Aurora. The introduction of synastry and how to better understand our partners through astrology was a big plus for Maeg.   07:34 – The first book that Maeg would save from their burning house would be Babylonian Star-lore: An Illustrated Guide to the Star-lore and Constellations of Ancient Babylonia by Gavin White. Maeg reaches for this book every time they sit down to write!   15:17 – Next, Maeg mentions Astronomicon by Marcus Manilius, because they love his inclusion for the guardians of the signs. (Maeg gets extra points here for calling Manilius a beloved weirdo – LOL!)   22:30 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   23:17 – An embryo book! Maeg’s third selection is a book that is yet to be published: Kristin Mathis’s spirit-led work on the Orphic Hymns. (Visit Kristin’s Substack page.) Maeg loves this one, which is like a prayer book; tune in to hear Maeg read the hymn to the Moon. (And we can all look forward to Revelore Press publishing this one!)   37:33 – Which books for beginners would Maeg recommend? Chani Nicholas gets the nod, with her wonderful primer You Were Born for This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance. It’s one to whet the appetite without getting bogged down in astro-jargon.   39:46 – Find Maeg at https://www.third-sister.com/. They are also on Instagram (link on their site).    40:35 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

We’re pulling another treat from our rich archives this week: Astrologer and tarot worker Mo Olufemi joins host Jenn Zahrt from Toronto, Ontario in Canada! Join the duo in a wide-ranging discussion of astrology and how Mo blends the Hellenistic, Medieval Islamicate, and Jyotish traditions! The two cover tons, including: electional astrology and placing the Moon; conditions of the houses; horary astrology; triplicity work; the dawr; and the Arudha Lagna in Vedic. All that, plus: reviewing predictions, time twins, and ignoring the outer planets!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded January 2025):   00:01 – Jenn Zahrt offers a brief intro!   00:47 – Mo is an astrologer and occultist who blends symbolism from Hellenistic, Medieval Islamicate, and Jyotish to assess how planetary influences characterize periods of time for individuals and societies. She also weaves in astrological symbols into her tarot work to provide deeper divinatory insights.   01:05 – Mo can’t remember the title of her very first astrology book, but she remembers getting it at a Scholastic Book Fair! It was a pink booklet on friendships for compatible Sun signs. The first serious book Mo read was The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk.   06:42 – If Mo could bring only three books to a deserted island, her first pick would be The Astrology of Sahl b. Bishr: Volume I: Principles, Elections, Questions, Nativities by Sahl ibn Bishr and translated by Benjamin Dykes.   27:30 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   28:17 – Mo’s second choice would be The Book of Religions and Dynasties by Abu Ma’shar (edited by K. Yamamoto and C. Burnett).   36:32 – The third title Mo would bring is the Jyotish tome Brihat Parashara Hora Shastra (aka the BPHS)!   41:16 – For beginners, Mo recommends listening to astrologers talk, because the oral tradition is so important!   50:48 – The best place to find Mo is via her handle @australtaur on Instagram, Bluesky, and Substack!   51:29 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

We all start somewhere! Enjoy this throwback to our inaugural show, featuring astrologer Thea Anderson! Tune in as Jenn and Thea discuss books galore, including Thea’s three (or four) books she'd take with her on a desert island, including one she'd bring to get OFF said island. Plus: remediation, zodiacal releasing, horary astrology, and making the mundane magical!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded Jan. 2023):   00:01 – What are you beginning? Jenn Zahrt introduces this reboot, as we toss it back to our very first episode! (And we’re leaving the show notes mostly intact, too, so you can compare.)   01:54 – Welcome to Within Orb, everyone – our first guest is astrologer Thea Anderson! Yay!   02:09 – The first astrology book Thea ever read (or was it osmosis??): The Only Way to Learn Astrology, Vol. 1.   03:12 – What was the second book that Thea ever read? “The blue book,” AKA On the Heavenly Spheres.   03:59 – Thea’s desert island books include: Firmicus Maternus’s Mathesis, Valens’s Anthology, Attrell and Porrecca’s Picatrix: A Medieval Treatise on Astral Magic, and Agrippa’s Three Books of Occult Philosophy.   25:58 – Thea’s picks for astrology beginners are: Astrology and the Authentic Self by Demetra George and 36 Secrets by T. Susan Chang.   37:19 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a kind review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted! Thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Since we love books around here, it’s the perfect week for this gem from the archives, as astrologer and author Linda "Moonrabbit" Zlotnick joins host Jenn Zahrt from St. Paul, Minnesota to chat all things books – including her soon-to-be-released book on death charts and moving through loss! Don’t miss this mini-lesson on Moon’s groundbreaking research into death charts, as the two cover that and more, including: accessing the elements with integrated thinking; Uranus transits and freedom; Saturn, limitations, and internalizing authority; past lives and evolutionary perspectives; how the past isn’t disengaged from the present; eclipses, growth, and change; the 8th house; progressions as reinforcement; and working with folks who have experienced loss. Plus: 1970s library treasures, building blocks, and keeping it simple!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2024):   00:01 – Producer Jen Braun wants you to know it was an honor to edit Moon’s upcoming book on death charts this past summer! Also… happy birthday, Moon!!   03:02 – Linda “Moonrabbit” Zlotnick has been a Twin Cities professional astrologer for nearly 50 years, with a focus on astrology as a source of illumination and healing. Moon began studying astrology in 1973; after formal training with Zipporah Dobyns in 1977, she began her full-time practice. Her experience with grief as a motherless daughter and twinless twin called her to write the book Star Sisters: An Astrologer's Memoir of Twin Loss. In 2015 she began her pioneering study of astrological death charts, which she uses now in her work with clients as a healing tool for the loss of a loved one. Stay tuned for the release of her next book, which has the working title Death Charts: An Astrological Tool for the Bereaved.   03:27 – The first astrology book that Moon ever read was A To Z Horoscope Maker and Delineator by Llewellyn George; it was the only book under “astrology” in the public library in 1975! Another early favorite was Astrology, Psychology and the Four Elements: An Energy Approach to Astrology and Its Use in the Counseling Arts by Stephen Arroyo. Moon loved the psychological orientation of this one and the wealth of info about the elements.   05:14 – If Moon could bring only three books to a deserted island, what would she bring? The first one would be the current manuscript she’s finishing, tentatively titled Death Charts: Using Astrology to Heal Grief. Moon’s innovative work on death charts came about through the profound experience of losing her twin in 2005. Moon finds that working with clients using a loved one’s “last breath chart” helps foster greater understanding and perspective for them in revealing a path forward.   10:47 – Moon’s second choice is Saturn: A New Look at an Old Devil by Liz Greene. Moon finds that Greene can connect archetypal themes to planets in a helpful way, and this text would be a good intellectual support system (after breaking her kneecap this past winter)!   13:42 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   14:28 – The third title that Moon would bring is Steven Forrest’s Yesterday’s Sky: Astrology and Reincarnation, because she likes the teachings on nodal patterns in the birth chart. (Enjoy the quick side trip to Pluto: The Evolutionary Journey of the Soul by Jeffrey Wolfe Green!)   18:14 – Moon shares more on her work with death charts, including bringing in eclipses, and how they impa

Astrologer and artist Edwin Martinez joins host Jenn Zahrt from Orlando, Florida! Tune in for a wide-ranging chat, from books to makeup and more, including: hymns and prayers; the art of translating and transmitting nuance in texts; and cosmetic glamour as Venusian armor! Plus: plant identification, guardian angels, and drag!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):   00:12 – Edwin Martinez is an espiritista and artist that is currently forging a path with the use of natural magic, folkloric practices, and medical islamicate and renaissance astrology technique to redefine the use of the cosmos in our sphere and divining.   01:46 – Edwin’s very first connection to astrology was not a book, but a TV show called 12 Corazones (12 Hearts). Edwin also mentions the book El Mundo Secreto de Walter Mercado (The Secret World of Walter Mercado) by Puerto Rican astrologer Walter Mercado.   05:19 – If Edwin could bring only three books to a deserted island, their first pick would be Collection of Selected Prayers by Allan Kardec.   13:22 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   18:31 – Edwin’s second choice would be Three Books on Life by Marsilio Ficino.   18:41 – The third title Edwin would bring is Viridarium Umbris: The Pleasure Garden of Shadow by Daniel Schulke.   29:53 – For beginners, Edwin recommends On the Heavenly Spheres by Helena Avelar and Luis Campos Ribeiro, Ancient Astrology in Theory & Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques by Demetra George, and the work of Dorotheus of Sidon.   31:36 – Find Edwin at their website: https://www.claimedparadise.com/. And on social, Edwin’s handle is @claimedparadise.   31:43 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and author Nicola Smuts Allsop joins host Jenn Zahrt from Bath, England! Join them in a fascinating chat regarding Nicola’s seminal work on fertility astrology (pun intended!), books, and more, including: fitting astrology into a scientific paradigm; medieval techniques; and the stars as divination. Plus: when false insights heal, the placebo effect, and… the meaningful space where anything can happen!     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded July 2025):   00:12 – Nicola Smuts Allsop is a consulting astrologer living in the United Kingdom. Originally from South Africa, she completed her first studies at the Rod Suskin School of Astrology in Cape Town and completed a Diploma in Medieval Astrology with Astro Logos (Bernadette Brady) in the UK. Nicola graduated from Canterbury Christ Church University with a master’s degree in Myth, Cosmology and the Sacred. Author of Fertility Astrology: A Modern Medieval Textbook, Nicola has specialized in this field and has undergone fertility treatment herself. She is a mother of two adult children and can empathize and understand the pain and the desperation of trying to conceive. Nicola lectures internationally on her fertility work and her research and methods in this field are pioneering and unique. Her success in diagnosing fertility issues in charts and finding potentially fertile times to try in vitro fertilization (IVF) and other reproductive treatments has been published in The Sunday Times (London), The London Times, and the Daily Mail. Her work has also been featured on national television (Free Spirit, Top Billing) in South Africa.   00:35 – Nicola’s very first astrology book was The Moment of Astrology: Origins in Divination by Geoffrey Cornelius.   14:47 – If Nicola could bring only three books to a deserted island, her first pick would be Guido Bonatti’s Book of Astronomy, translated by Benjamin Dykes. (Nicola also mentions the work of Sydney Omarr.)   19:49 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   20:36 – Nicola’s second choice would be Hermes Trismegistus’s Liber Hermetis, translated by Robert Zoller and edited by Robert Hand.   21:58 – The third title Nicola would bring is a toss-up between Cornelius’s The Moment of Astrology and Astrology in the Year Zero by Garry Phillipson.   30:02 – For beginners, Nicola recommends Keywords for Astrology by Anna Haebler and Hajo Banzhaf.   31:23 – Find Nicola at her website: https://fertilityastrology.com/. And check out her YouTube channel: @fertilityastrology203.   31:43 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer Joe G joins host Jenn Zahrt for a peppy chat about astrology, books, art, and more! Join these two neighbors as they discuss: writing public horoscopes using images; an un-Lilly horary pick; and the last aspect of the Moon! Plus: animism, fantasteroids, and… can the stars tell us what sandwich to eat?   Joe G joins Episode 102 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded July 2025):   00:12 – Joe G is a certified Hellenistic and electional astrologer, with a background spanning art, music, and strategic planning. Since 2019, he’s specialized in results-driven, project-based astrology – using traditional electional techniques to identify the most promising moments for major endeavors. In 2025, Joe was elected Director of Marketing for ISAR. His experience also includes producing and managing projects for leading astrology brands like Astrology Hub, Christopher Renstrom’s Ruling Planets, and Mychal Bryan’s Oraculos School of Astrology. Joe’s approach is grounded in precision and practicality, offering clear, actionable strategies over personality readings or metaphysical speculation. His work has been featured in The CAELi Review, and he’s presented at CazimiCon 2022 and taught at Astrology Hub’s Inner Circle and Gemini Brett’s School of Earthstrology.   00:45 – Joe’s very first astrology book was The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk.   02:25 – If Joe could bring only three books to a deserted island, his first pick would be Astrology of the World II: Revolutions & History, translated and edited by Benjamin Dykes.   04:19 – Joe’s second choice would be Astrolabium Planum by Johannes Angelus.   06:43 – The third title Joe would bring is The Forty Chapters of al-Kindi, translated and edited by Benjamin Dykes.   14:18 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   19:23 – Make your own fantasteroid! Learn more about them here: http://fantasteroids.com/.   23:13 – For beginners, Joe recommends al-Kindi’s previously mentioned The Forty Chapters.   24:33 – Find Joe at his website: https://www.themercuryrising.com/.   25:16 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and author Doctor H joins host Jenn Zahrt this week! Tune in for an immersive episode covering books, chart rectification and more, including: Babylonian cuneiform tablets; studying systems of time; and solar returns and primary directions. Plus: Medieval predictive astrology, price and time as mathematical constants, and the importance of reading widely!   Doctor H joins Episode 101 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):   00:12 – Doctor H completed Robert Zoller’s Diploma in Medieval Predictive Astrology in March 2025 and maintains a full-time practice with a handful of clients. Surplus time is dedicated to research on the efficacy of recently recovered traditional astrological techniques.   04:58 – Doctor H doesn’t recall his very first astrology book, but Robert Zoller’s Diploma Course in Medieval Astrology had a huge impact!   10:02 – If Doctor H could bring only three books to a deserted island, his first pick would be Babylonian Mathematical Astronomy: Procedure Texts by Mathieu Ossendrijver.   20:10 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   20:56 – Doctor H’s second choice would be The Oxford Companion to the Year: An Exploration of Calendar Customs and Time-Reckoning by Bonnie Blackburn and Leofranc Holford-Strevens.   24:51 – The third title Doctor H would bring is Abu Ma’shar’s Persian Nativities IV: On the Revolutions of the Years of Nativities, translated and edited by Benjamin Dykes.   44:21 – For beginners, Doctor H recommends Introductions to Traditional Astrology: Abu Ma’shar & al-Qabisi which is translated and edited by Benjamin Dykes, The Four Temperaments: A Rediscovery of the Ancient Way of Understanding Health and Character by Randy Rolfe, and Fowler’s Practical Phrenology by Orson Squire Fowler.   49:13 – Find Doctor H at his website: https://www.regulus-astrology.com/.   50:06 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and asteroid expert Amy Angelo joins host Jenn Zahrt from Manhattan, NY for the centenary episode of Within Orb! Join Amy and Jenn as they talk about asteroids, astrology (and non-astrology!) books and more, including: eclipses as portals of transformative moments; a deep dive into the epic of Gilgamesh; and the power of the daimon. Plus: the idea that studying Hellenistic astrology teaches you how to think, a sacred journey while learning from Demetra George, and wormhole portal math!   Amy Angelo joins Episode 100 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):   00:01 – Happy 100th episode to all our listeners – we wouldn’t have a show without you!! Jenn introduces the awesome new CAELi Labs: Three Deep Lab and the Hypermodern Aspects Lab!   02:12 – Amy Angelo is a professional astrologer and graduate student at Teachers College at Columbia University studying Spiritual Psychology. She is on the faculty of Kepler College teaching an introduction to Natal Hellenistic Astrology. She leads the NCGR Special Interest Research Group on asteroids and explores the myth, magic, and mystery of asteroid placements in nativities.   02:41 – Amy’s first astrology books were two from Demetra George: Mysteries of the Dark Moon: The Healing Power of the Dark Goddess and Ancient Astrology in Theory & Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques.   08:00 – If Amy could bring only three books to Tahiti, her first pick would be Figuring by Maria Popova.   14:05 – Amy’s second choice would be Gilgamesh: A New Translation of the Ancient Epic, translated by Sophus Helle.   18:53 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   24:24 – The third title Amy would bring is Holy Daimon by Frater Acher. (Amy and Jenn also discuss The Red Book by Carl Jung.)   32:43 – For beginners, Amy recommends Ancient Astrology in Theory & Practice: A Manual of Traditional Techniques by Demetra George.   32:56 – Find Amy at her website: https://www.amy-angelo.com/. On Insta and TikTok, her handle is @amyangeloastro.   33:47 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and educator Wade Caves joins host Jenn Zahrt from Brooklyn, NY! Join these pals in a profound, accessible, and cheerful episode as they chat astrology books and more, including: sharing versus hoarding (and the urn of Aquarius); Virgo’s wings; a classic text with helpful chart examples; and navigation using the stars. All that, plus: astrology in the 7th-grade cafeteria, the impact of Sailor Moon, and Moon-Mercury aspects!   Wade Caves joins Episode 99 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):   00:12 – Wade Caves, based in Brooklyn, NY, is an astrological consultant and educator specializing in horary, electional, and classical astrological technique. He teaches horary and astronomy at the School of Traditional Astrology. Wade also publishes his work on world astrology through Skyscript’s In Mundo publishing desk, and hosts the World Astrology Summit, a conference dedicated to the advancement of mundane technique for diverse audiences. He is the editor and annotator of the 300th anniversary edition of William Lilly’s History of His Life and Times (Rubedo Press, 2015).   01:26 – Wade’s very first astrology book was Love Signs (or possibly Sun Signs) by Linda Goodman. Early on, Horoscope Symbols by Robert Hand was also important to him.   08:46 – If Wade could bring only three books to a deserted island, his first pick would be Astronomica by Marcus Manilius.   11:44 – Wade’s second choice would be all three volumes of Christian Astrology by William Lilly. (Wade also offers a hat tip to Guido Bonatti!)   12:33 – The third title Wade would bring is Al-Magest by Claudius Ptolemy. (Not Tetrabiblos? Correct… unless he couldn’t get off the island!)   20:27 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   21:14 – Wade asks: What three books would Jenn bring? (And lend your ears to Episode 39, Jenn Zahrt: For the Love of Astrology (Books)!)   28:17 – For beginners, Wade recommends Aspects in Astrology: A Comprehensive Guide to Interpretation by Sue Tompkins, The Houses: Temples of the Sky by Deborah Houlding, and Cosmic Loom: The New Science of Astrology by Dennis Elwell.   37:24 – Find Wade at his website: https://wadecaves.com/. And visit the School of Traditional Astrology: https://sta.co/.   38:34 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer, coach, and educator Asdrúbal Moreno joins host Jenn Zahrt from Santiago, Chile! Join the ISAR prez and vice prez in this deep and exuberant chat covering astrology books and more, including: patterns, not predictions; the Sun as your personal myth; and Dane Rudhyar’s metaphorical symphony! Plus: ascensional transits, the potential in a seed, and… is the pursuit of happiness alive in nature?     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):   00:12 – Asdrúbal Moreno is an astrologer, coach, and educator passionate about integrating astrology, somatic awareness, and personal development. He serves as Vice President of ISAR and Director of the ISAR Affiliated Schools Program, and is also Subdirector and Professor at the Centro Astrológico de Chile. Certified as a Professional Astrologer (CAP-ISAR) and Senior Ontological Coach, Asdrúbal specializes in humanistic astrology, karmic insight, and somatic coaching. He combines ancient wisdom with contemporary science to help individuals and groups grow in self-awareness and transformation.   00:59 – Asdrúbal’s first astrological dip was a board game from when he was a kid, where you had to cast a birth chart! His first actual book was Manual de Astrología Moderna (or, Modern Astrology Manual) by Eloy Dumon.   05:29 – If Asdrúbal could bring only three books to a deserted island, his first pick would be Tetrabiblos by Ptolemy.   09:33 – Asdrúbal’s second choice would be Apollo's Chariot: The Meaning of the Astrological Sun by Liz Greene.   17:35 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   18:22 – The third title Asdrúbal would bring is The Astrology of Personality by Dane Rudhyar.   29:19 – For beginners, Asdrúbal recommends Dumon’s Modern Astrology Manual and Un Espejo Cósmico (translated: A Cosmic Mirror) by Gonzalo Pérez. (It’s not in English… yet! 😉)   32:47 – Find Asdrúbal on Instagram @asdru_. And you can reach him by email at: asdrubal.moreno.f(at)gmail(dot)com!   34:39 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and professor Michelle Brisebois joins host Jenn Zahrt from the Niagara area of Ontario, Canada! Join the duo for this fun and lively chat about astrology books and more, including: an approachable read on progressions; juicy predictive techniques; and investigating specific degrees related to career! Plus: learning to cast charts by hand, the art of winemaking, and… create your future, don’t predict it!   Michelle Brisebois joins Episode 97 of Within Orb!   Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):   00:12 – Michelle Brisebois studies and uses astrology and Qabalistic Pathworking to work with clients to help them build a life and career path that brings them joy. She’s a part-time marketing professor, teaching marketing to winemaking students at Niagara College, and is writing her first book about the Egyptian Bounds.   00:40 – Michelle’s first astrology book was The Compleat Astrologer’s Love Signs by Derek and Julia Parker. But the initial one that taught her about how the archetypes work was a tarot book (which included some astrology) called Jewels of the Wise: Self-Mastery Through the Tarot, published by the Holy Order of Mans.   04:27 – If Michelle could bring only three books to a deserted island, her first pick would be Progressions by Robert Blaschke, edited by our dear Jenn, and published in a new second edition with an expanded ephemeris by Revelore Press!   06:53 – Michelle’s second choice would be Predictive Astrology: Cycles of Change, Seasons of Meaning by Michele Adler.   08:00 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   08:46 – The third title Michelle would bring is The Wheel of Life or Scientific Astrology by Maurice Wemyss. (If you want to pack light, Michelle also shouts out The CAELi Review, edited by Camm Cassidy! And hey, check out Episode 5 while you’re at it, Camm Cassidy & the Lord of the Orb!)   18:53 – For beginners, Michelle recommends Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas, You Were Born for This: Astrology for Radical Self-Acceptance by Chani Nicholas, Astrology: An Illustrated Guide with editor Kim Farnell, and The Combination of Stellar Influences by Reinhold Ebertin.   21:29 – Find Michelle at her website: https://textrixmarketing.com.   22:29 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Kevin DeCapite, astrologer and founder/developer of LUNA Astrology, joins host Jenn Zahrt from Portland, Oregon! Tune in as Jenn and Kevin chat about astrology books and more, including: astrology as the study of all human experience; the practice and art of inquiry; change as the only constant; and Dane Rudhyar’s vast body of work. Plus: analysis paralysis versus trusting intuition, innate creativity, and… what does it mean to be human?     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded May 2025):   00:12 – Kevin DeCapite is the founder and developer of LUNA Astrology, a cloud software platform for students and practitioners. He studied astrology and meditation with transpersonal astrologer Jim Sher in Los Angeles, CA, and currently resides in Portland, OR with his wife Sharon.   00:48 – Kevin’s first astrology book was Llewellyn's Complete Book of Astrology: The Easy Way to Learn Astrology by Kris Brandt Riske.   08:51 – If Kevin could bring only three books to a deserted island, his first pick would be Astrology as a Spiritual Path: Birth of the New Human by Jim Sher.   12:49 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   13:36 – Kevin’s second choice would be The I Ching or Book of Changes, translated by Richard Wilhelm and Cary Baynes.   19:25 – The third title Kevin would bring is The Essential Rudhyar: An Outline and an Evocation by Leyha Raël. (Or he’d bring whatever Rudhyar book he happens to be reading!)   25:25 – For beginners, Kevin recommends that any introductory astrology book can get you started; follow your gut! He also enjoys the work of Liz Greene, Dane Rudhyar, and Jim Sher. Or, check out Astrology, Psychology, and the Four Elements: An Energy Approach to Astrology and Its Use in the Counseling Arts by Stephen Arroyo.   29:42 – Find Kevin at his website: https://www.lunaastrology.com/.   30:19 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any amount, we’d be delighted – thanks!   Show notes and production by Jen Braun of JJ Boots Productions LLC.

Astrologer and author Rebecca Gordon joins host Jenn Zahrt from New York City! Together, Jenn and Rebecca chat books, an ecosystems approach to astrology, and more, including: a consideration of historical patterns; the tapestry of fixed stars; medical astrology; and the importance of the elements. Plus: a pride of Leo risings, thoughts on the Berlin Wall, and… what’s your heliacal rising star?     Visit CAELi’s Within Orb pod page! Learn more about the CAELi Institute and check out their latest lab offerings. Visit our bookshop.org page to support CAELi and purchase books mentioned on the show! Become a CAELi member or renew your membership! Love the show? Support our work with a financial contribution or book donation. Follow CAELi on FB, IG, YouTube, and Bluesky. Transcripts available upon request. Song “Wake Up” used with permission by The E-Block Band.   *****   Episode timestamps (conversation recorded June 2025):   00:12 – Rebecca Gordon is an author, visionary astrologer, futurist, and systems thinker who bridges astrology with governance, business, ecology, and cultural evolution. Rather than studying astrology in isolation, she explores its role in shaping human systems, integrating celestial cycles into real-world applications that influence everything from leadership models to environmental frameworks. Her pioneering Ecosystems Astrology method reframes astrology as an interconnected, living system—an approach she’s shared through global retreats, workshops, and thought leadership. Rebecca has collaborated with organizations such as Google, Aman Hotels, The NED, NeueHouse, and even Christian Louboutin bringing astrology into the worlds of business, fashion, technology, and hospitality through keynotes and team building events. Rebecca has spoken at leading conferences on astrology, futurism, and interdisciplinary thought, engaging in conversations on AI, quantum mechanics, and social transformation. Through retreats and immersive experiences, Rebecca invites participants to engage with astrology as a tool for systems thinking, ecological awareness, and cultural innovation, weaving the ancient axiom as above, so below into the fabric of modern life.   01:12 – Rebecca’s first astrology book was Parkers’ Astrology by Julia and Derek Parker, which she loved! Around the same time, she also encountered The Only Astrology Book You'll Ever Need by Joanna Martine Woolfolk – but Parkers’ gets the hat tip!   06:21 – If Rebecca could bring only three books to a deserted island, her first pick would be Cosmos and Psyche: Intimations of a New World View by Richard Tarnas.   16:09 – Interlude: Join the CAELi Support Drive and for only $35, you can enjoy your morning beverage out of a gorgeous CAELi mug!   16:55 – Rebecca’s second choice would be Brady's Book of Fixed Stars: The Invisible Force and Influence of Constellations in the Natal Chart by Bernadette Brady.   24:20 – The third title Rebecca would bring is Hellenistic Astrology: The Study of Fate and Fortune by Chris Brennan.   25:16 – For beginners, Rebecca recommends Astrology, Psychology, and the Four Elements: An Energy Approach to Astrology and Its Use in the Counseling Arts by Stephen Arroyo and The Astrology Sourcebook: A Guide to the Symbolic Language of the Stars by Shirley Soffer. Rebecca also offers two Irish poets that have been meaningful to her – John O'Donohue’s book Beauty: The Invisible Embrace and the work of David Whyte.   31:08 – Jenn asks Rebecca about her text Your Body and the Stars: The Zodiac As Your Wellness Guide, co-authored with Stephanie Marango. Tune in to hear the deets!   33:26 – Find Rebecca at her website: https://www.rebeccagordonastrology.com/.   36:40 – Thanks for listening to Within Orb! If you love the show, please help support it at no cost to you: Follow or subscribe wherever you listen, rate it five stars, or write a happy review! And if you’d like to become a CAELi member or support our work with a contribution of any