What does it take to build a business that’s both secure and personal? In this episode, I sit down with Chris Church from PCS to talk about the real-world threats businesses face, from phishing emails to vendors unintentionally opening the door to hackers. But this conversation goes way beyond cybersecurity.

We dive into how Chris built his team, the value of genuine networking, and the mindset shift that helped him grow a thriving business without burning out. Whether you're leading a team, protecting your company’s data, or just trying to find better balance, this episode is packed with insights and real talk you won’t want to miss.