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What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Media Roundtable
16 episodes
1 month ago

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined is a provocative three-part series that unpacks the identity crisis, evolution, and future of podcasting. Produced by Oxford Road, the leading agency in podcast advertising, and Shaun Colón (Age of Audio), and hosted by industry veteran Allyson Marino, this series goes beyond nostalgia to expose the seismic shifts reshaping the medium.


Once an independent, audio-first frontier, podcasting is now being redefined by the rise of video, platform exclusivity, and the battle for control. Featuring candid insights from over 30 industry pioneers—including Ira Glass, Guy Raz, Adam Carolla, and Leo Laporte—this series takes listeners inside the high-stakes tug-of-war that will determine the fate of the industry.

As platforms like YouTube and Spotify blur the boundaries between podcasts and video content, What’s a Podcast? asks the hard question: if we don’t act now, will podcasting lose the very thing that made it revolutionary?


This isn’t just a podcast. It’s a wake-up call.

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What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined is a provocative three-part series that unpacks the identity crisis, evolution, and future of podcasting. Produced by Oxford Road, the leading agency in podcast advertising, and Shaun Colón (Age of Audio), and hosted by industry veteran Allyson Marino, this series goes beyond nostalgia to expose the seismic shifts reshaping the medium.


Once an independent, audio-first frontier, podcasting is now being redefined by the rise of video, platform exclusivity, and the battle for control. Featuring candid insights from over 30 industry pioneers—including Ira Glass, Guy Raz, Adam Carolla, and Leo Laporte—this series takes listeners inside the high-stakes tug-of-war that will determine the fate of the industry.

As platforms like YouTube and Spotify blur the boundaries between podcasts and video content, What’s a Podcast? asks the hard question: if we don’t act now, will podcasting lose the very thing that made it revolutionary?


This isn’t just a podcast. It’s a wake-up call.

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Episodes (16/16)
What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
"Stop Apologizing": Lex Friedman on Why Podcasting Will Always Evolve and Why That's a Good Thing
This week on the Media Roundtable, we’re sitting down with Lex Friedman (not to be confused with Lex Fridman), one of podcasting’s original builders and a leader who’s shaped the business of podcasting since Day 1. Before launching his own consulting business, Lex played a part in nearly every major chapter of the industry, including Chief Business Development at Midroll, Chief Revenue Officer at ART19, Head of Podcast Partnerships at Amazon, and Head of Podcast Strategy at Wondery. Along the way, he’s helped define how ads get sold, how shows get funded, and how podcasting itself gets defined. In this episode, Lex opens up on what made podcast ads such a “win-win-win” from the start, why early pitches were simply “talk radio…on demand,” and how a listenership of “completionists” continue to set podcasts apart. He even drops an acoustic guitar analogy to explain why the word podcast isn’t going anywhere, no matter how the platforms try to rebrand it. "Stop apologizing for podcasting being what it is—because it’s clearly working." —Lex Friedman The conversation covers: Ad Load Tipping Points, Completionist Behavior, Consolidation and Mega-Deals, and more. Let’s go. Watch the conversation on Youtube: https://youtu.be/HjDmqUiBSQg
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1 month ago
51 minutes 44 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
How We Built This: Guy Raz on Intimacy, Independence, and What's Worth Preserving in Podcasting
This week’s archival pull from What’s a Podcast? The Extended Interviews features one of the voices that helped build the podcast industry as we know it: Guy Raz. Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road) sits down with the creator of How I Built This to talk about how we built this—i.e. how podcasting went from media exile to mainstream power player—and what’s worth protecting as the lines between audio, video, and algorithm blur. “[As a listener], you’re giving me your time—and your time is more valuable than money.” —Guy Raz The team is talking: The Podcast Intimacy Advantage, Video as an Add-On, Goodbye to Gatekeepers, and more.  Let’s dive in.
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3 months ago
52 minutes 7 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Podcast to Primetime: How Evan Shapiro Turned Audio into TV and What’s Next
This week on “What’s a Podcast? - The Extended Interviews,” Evan Shapiro (renowned Media Universe Cartographer) brings his latest industry map to share with Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road & Veritone One) how and why podcasts should expand into other mediums.  At IFC, Evan pioneered the podcast-to-TV pipeline (Comedy Bang Bang, WTF with Marc Maron). Now he navigates uncharted media waters with his show The Media Odyssey. He’s a perfect guide for this podcast voyage.  The team is talking: In Creators We Trust, Podcasting’s New Identity, Audience Connection, and more. Let’s dig in. “[Podcasting] was the first form of the creator economy.”Evan Shapiro (renowned Media Universe Cartographer) 
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4 months ago
30 minutes 26 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
"Kill the Word 'Podcast'": The Roost's AJ Feliciano on How Video Blew Up the Medium in Every Sense
Kill the word podcast? Our guest votes yes. This week on “What’s a Podcast? - The Extended Interviews,” Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road & Veritone One) hosts AJ Feliciano (former GM of The Roost Network) for a deep dive on how The Roost became the in-house “media company of tomorrow.” AJ is all-in on 360 content. He even built a flywheel for how podcasts can pivot into video so they can “pump [distribution platforms] with all types of content.” Oh. And in the podcast vs. simulcast debate? He’s 11/10 “simulcast.”  Dan and AJ are also talking: Be a Mini-Disney, Everything Everywhere All at Once, Find What Clicks, and more. Let’s get into it. “Simulcast doesn't put itself in a box necessarily. When I'm talking to creators or fans and I say the word ‘simulcast,’ they see it’s in multiple places. It just sort of clicks immediately without having to explain it.” – AJ Feliciano (former GM of The Roost Network)
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4 months ago
53 minutes 53 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Star Trek in the Basement: Why Podcasting Still Needs its Indie Creators with John McDermott
This week, in a podcast studio, somewhere on the final frontier, Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road & Veritone One) and John McDermott (Co-Founder, Caloroga Shark Media) boldly go where nobody’s gone before, to discuss how there’s plenty of room in podcasting for celebrities AND friends to talk Star Trek and beyond. This episode of “What’s a Podcast? - The Extended Interviews” is sponsored by Claritas. “I'm not the anti-video guy. I just want to stick up for, hey, there's nothing wrong with heading down to the basement and talking about Star Trek with your friends.” John McDermott (Co-Founder, Caloroga Shark Media) The team is talking: Jimmy Buffett’s Business Model, YouTube’s Numbers Game, Podcast Peer Pressure, and more. Let’s voyage in.
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4 months ago
59 minutes 31 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Sounds Definitive - The State of Podcasting with Bryan Barletta
Hope you’re good at math, because podcasting is about to multiply. This week on the Media Roundtable limited series “What’s a Podcast? - The Extended Interviews,” Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road & Veritone One) hosts Bryan Barletta (Founder and Partner, Sound Profitable) to peel back the layers of podcasting.  “I want it [the podcast definition] to be a virus… If we let it grow, it's easier to kick out the things that are very clearly not it.” - Bryan Barletta The team is talking: the Popular Kids, YouTube’s Top Shelf, Identity Crises, and more. Let’s dig in.
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5 months ago
31 minutes 59 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
The Podcaster’s Blueprint: How Ira Glass Made Podcasting a Cultural Phenomenon
Hot tip for CAOs: Find a podcaster who believes in 'good promotion' like Ira Glass. Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road & Veritone One) sits down with Audio Legend and Podcast Pioneer Ira Glass (Host, Executive Producer, This American Life) in a new episode of “What’s a Podcast? - The Extended Interviews.” This week’s episode is sponsored by our friends at Fairing. “ You really have to be very thoughtful and show cunning in the way that you deal with advertising and promotion…. that's where you protect yourself and your right to make whatever you want.“Ira Glass (Host, Executive Producer, This American Life)  The team is talking: Promo Power, Blueprints, The Feels, and more. Let’s dig in.
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5 months ago
47 minutes 32 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Podcasting: Why Have We Been Undervaluing a $7.3B Industry? - with Hernan Lopez
CAOs, there’s a number out there in the world that if you knew it, it’d change your business forever. Our guest on this week’s episode of the Media Roundtable found that number— How’d he do it? Join Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road & Veritone One) as he hosts Hernan Lopez, (Founder, Wondery & Owl & Co) in a special double episode to talk about the BIGGEST number in podcasting and why it matters. “ I estimated the global podcast economy to be worth $7.3 billion.”  — Hernan Lopez, (Founder, Wondery & Owl & Co) They’re talking: Counting What Counts, Why Definitions Matter, Audio Wins, and more. Let’s dive in.
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5 months ago
1 hour 28 minutes 42 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
"Little Masterpieces for Your Ears" - Understanding Podcasting’s Past, Ensuring its Future
Ah, podcasts–those “little masterpieces for your ears.”  We’re back with another episode of our limited series, ‘What’s a Podcast? - The Extended Interviews.’ We have an all-star panel of industry insiders to debate what a podcast is — and what it could be.  Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road and Veritone One) hosts: Larry Rosin (President, Edison Research) Hilary Ross Shafer (VP, Podcast and YouTube Influencer, Veritone One) James Cridland (Editor, Podnews and Podcast Business Journal) and  Nick Giorgio (Director, Media and Customer Acquisition, SimpliSafe) ”Podcasting's unique selling point has always been that it's something for your ears when your eyes are busy.”James Cridland (Editor, Podnews and Podcast Business Journal)The team’s talking: Podcasting’s Identity Crisis, Podcast Growing Pains, and CAO ad outlook. Let’s dive in.
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6 months ago
1 hour 15 minutes 37 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Audio Gold - Charting the Rise of the MeidasTouch Network with the Meiselas Brothers
Three brothers have taken podcasting by storm. And this week, they share the secret to turning everything they touch to podcast gold. In our limited series “What’s a Podcast? The Extended Interviews,” we sit down with the creators of the fastest-growing independent media network in the world, the MeidasTouch.  Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road and Veritone One) hosts Ben, Brett, and Jordy Meiselas (Co-founders, MeidasTouch Network) to discuss the tips and tricks the brothers use to build and scale their wildly successful podcast-turned-media-network. “ Everything we do is malleable. While podcasts feel like they have been around for a long time, it's still such a new industry… You can never get too comfortable. Always be looking at ‘how is this changing? What's next?”Brett Meiselas, (Co-founder, MeidasTouch Network)They’re talking: Growth Hacks, Serving your Audience, Family SWOT Analysis, and more. Let’s dive in.
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6 months ago
53 minutes 12 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Redefining Podcasts: Audio, Video, and the Future of the Channel with Larry Rosin (Edison Research)
The Media Roundtable limited series: “What’s a Podcast? – The Extended Interviews” continues with this crucial debate. This week's episode is sponsored by Fairing. Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road and Veritone One) teams up with Larry Rosin (President, Edison Research) for our extensive qualitative and quantitative journey to define what a ‘podcast’ is in 2025. This episode is a culmination of all that work: a debate to finally forge one definition to rule them all.  “ It's such an American idea, this democratization of voices–this fact that now there is actually representation of interests that were underserved for so long.”Dan Granger (CEO, Oxford Road and Veritone One) Together we're talking: Consumers vs the Industry, the Spirit of Podcasting, Video Inclusion, and more. Let's dig in.
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6 months ago
1 hour 24 minutes 15 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Charting Podcasting’s Pirate Ship Past with Adam Carolla
6 months ago
38 minutes 27 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Episode 3: The Crossroads – Identity Crisis & the Future
So… what is a podcast in 2025? As video takes over and platforms tighten their grip, the medium faces an identity crisis. In our final episode, we examine what’s at stake and where podcasting might go next. You’ll hear from industry leaders like Guy Raz, James Cridland, Dan Franks, and AJ Feliciano as they wrestle with the evolving definition of podcasting, the tension between independence and algorithms, and the future of audio-first storytelling. Because the word “podcast” might be up for debate—but its power is not. For the most comprehensive picture of what podcasting means to consumers today, check out our accompanying white paper with Edison Research, “What is a Podcast?: Preserving its Essence, Structuring for Expansion,” featuring quantitative and qualitative data compiled from over 4,000 Americans. Download the White Paper Here: https://oxfordroad.com/whats-a-podcast And if you’re really invested in the future of podcasting, there’s something you can do today. Help us bring YouTube, Spotify, and other platforms to the table—not to regulate, but to collaborate. Sign our petition for a shared definition, an open measurement framework, and a future where podcasting remains open, inclusive, and built to last. Add Your Name to the Petition Here: https://chng.it/6S5S7bPrjR
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7 months ago
30 minutes 37 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Episode 2: The Explosion – Mainstream & the Pod-demic
After Serial broke the sound barrier, podcasting went from niche to everywhere—fast. In this episode, we follow the industry through its Hollywood makeover, the rise of podcast celebrities, and a pandemic-era boom that flooded the market with new voices. Hear from insiders like Bryan Barletta, Pete Birsinger, and the Meiselas Brothers on how podcasting became a business, a brand builder–for D2C brands and podcasters’ personal brands alike–and a battleground for independence. From million-dollar deals to the chaos of overproduction, this is the story of podcasting’s wildest decade. For the most comprehensive picture of what podcasting means to consumers today, check out our accompanying white paper with Edison Research, “What is a Podcast?: Preserving its Essence, Structuring for Expansion,” featuring quantitative and qualitative data compiled from over 4,000 Americans. Download the White Paper Here: https://oxfordroad.com/whats-a-podcast And if you’re really invested in the future of podcasting, there’s something you can do today. Help us bring YouTube, Spotify, and other platforms to the table—not to regulate, but to collaborate. Sign our petition for a shared definition, an open measurement framework, and a future where podcasting remains open, inclusive, and built to last. Add Your Name to the Petition Here: https://chng.it/6S5S7bPrjR
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7 months ago
29 minutes 15 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
Episode 1: The Genesis – The Accidental Revolution
Podcasting didn’t start with a business plan—it started with rebels, weirdos, and accidental pioneers tinkering in garages. In Episode 1 of What’s A Podcast?, we trace the medium’s origin story—from the earliest RSS hacks to the moment Steve Jobs brought podcasts to iTunes. Along the way, you’ll hear from Adam Carolla and Leo Laporte on bypassing traditional media, and Ira Glass on how public radio helped shape podcasting’s storytelling DNA. Featuring firsthand interviews with the people who built podcasting before it had a name—and who are still fighting to define what it is today. For the most comprehensive picture of what podcasting means to consumers today, check out our accompanying white paper with Edison Research, “What is a Podcast?: Preserving its Essence, Structuring for Expansion,” featuring quantitative and qualitative data compiled from over 4,000 Americans. Download the White Paper Here: https://oxfordroad.com/whats-a-podcast And if you’re really invested in the future of podcasting, there’s something you can do today. Help us bring YouTube, Spotify, and other platforms to the table—not to regulate, but to collaborate. Sign our petition for a shared definition, an open measurement framework, and a future where podcasting remains open, inclusive, and built to last. Add Your Name to the Petition Here: https://chng.it/6S5S7bPrjR
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7 months ago
32 minutes 16 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined
What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined Trailer
What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined is a provocative three-part series that unpacks the identity crisis, evolution, and future of podcasting. Produced by Oxford Road, the leading agency in podcast advertising, and Shaun Colón (Age of Audio), and hosted by industry veteran Allyson Marino, this series goes beyond nostalgia to expose the seismic shifts reshaping the medium. Once an independent, audio-first frontier, podcasting is now being redefined by the rise of video, platform exclusivity, and the battle for control. Featuring candid insights from over 30 industry pioneers—including Ira Glass, Guy Raz, Adam Carolla, and Leo Laporte—this series takes listeners inside the high-stakes tug-of-war that will determine the fate of the industry. As platforms like YouTube and Spotify blur the boundaries between podcasts and video content, What’s a Podcast? asks the hard question: if we don’t act now, will podcasting lose the very thing that made it revolutionary? This isn’t just a podcast. It’s a wake-up call.
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7 months ago
1 minute 14 seconds

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined

What’s a Podcast?: The Revolution Redefined is a provocative three-part series that unpacks the identity crisis, evolution, and future of podcasting. Produced by Oxford Road, the leading agency in podcast advertising, and Shaun Colón (Age of Audio), and hosted by industry veteran Allyson Marino, this series goes beyond nostalgia to expose the seismic shifts reshaping the medium.


Once an independent, audio-first frontier, podcasting is now being redefined by the rise of video, platform exclusivity, and the battle for control. Featuring candid insights from over 30 industry pioneers—including Ira Glass, Guy Raz, Adam Carolla, and Leo Laporte—this series takes listeners inside the high-stakes tug-of-war that will determine the fate of the industry.

As platforms like YouTube and Spotify blur the boundaries between podcasts and video content, What’s a Podcast? asks the hard question: if we don’t act now, will podcasting lose the very thing that made it revolutionary?


This isn’t just a podcast. It’s a wake-up call.