In this episode, Dr. Sanders is joined by Holly Hawkins for a reflective and personal conversation about the role of presence in healthcare. Dr. Sanders shares his thoughts on what it means to truly be present with patients—how slowing down, listening carefully, and being emotionally available can lead to deeper healing. He explains how the DPC model allows this kind of relationship-centered care by removing time-based billing and insurance barriers that typically interfere with connection.

Holly shares her own journey of rediscovering purpose through her roles in the clinic. With prior experience in clinical environments and a deep appreciation for people, she describes how working at the DPC practice has restored her sense of meaning. Holly talks about how greeting patients by name, forming real connections, and being part of a team that values intentional presence has transformed how she views both healthcare and her own life.

Together, John and Holly explore how the practice of presence doesn’t just apply to medical professionals—it’s a universal discipline that affects how we show up for one another. Their conversation is a gentle but powerful reminder that healing begins with being seen and heard, and that every person in a clinic—whether physician or receptionist—can be a vital part of that healing process.

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