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UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
Bill Sego
18 episodes
3 days ago
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon as Non-Human Intelligence is a site dedicated to promoting a uniquely combined philosophical, scientific, and logical approach to the UFO enigma. The primary goal is to assess a non-human-intelligence probability value of the phenomenon without the need for claims of scientific fact or absolute truth. The aim is to offer a fresh approach that eliminates the need for "opinion" or "belief" in public discussions about the topic. Instead, a neutral position that fosters non-biased interpretation and pluralistic discourse is encouraged.
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Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon as Non-Human Intelligence is a site dedicated to promoting a uniquely combined philosophical, scientific, and logical approach to the UFO enigma. The primary goal is to assess a non-human-intelligence probability value of the phenomenon without the need for claims of scientific fact or absolute truth. The aim is to offer a fresh approach that eliminates the need for "opinion" or "belief" in public discussions about the topic. Instead, a neutral position that fosters non-biased interpretation and pluralistic discourse is encouraged.
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UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
Moving Delay

Episode 18 will be delayed until next month since I'm still in the process of unpacking from the move to my new home. I also have to finish setting up my studio. Just wanted to give everyone a heads up.

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1 week ago
30 seconds

UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
Ep 017: The Interdimensional Hypothesis

In Part 4 of the NHI Origins miniseries, I examine the Interdimensional Hypothesis (IDH) as a possible contender for explaining the UAP phenomenon. From Jacques Vallée’s groundbreaking work connecting modern sightings with ancient folklore, to modern debates about high strangeness, simulation theory, and the role of consciousness, this episode unpacks the many ways the phenomenon may originate from realities beyond our own. The discussion asks what “interdimensional” truly means and whether what we interpret as metaphysical or paranormal could instead be advanced science that lies outside our current understanding.

I also explore different interpretations of the IDH, including parallel realities where evolution took alternate paths, ultra-dimensional creators who might serve as the architects of a simulated universe, and the idea that what we call “gods,” “angels,” or “demons” may be reinterpretations of the same phenomenon across different eras. Cases of high strangeness, reports of portals or gateways, and theories involving orbs and perceptual manipulation are weighed not only as possible evidence of interdimensional origins, but also as effects of technology interacting with human consciousness.

Ultimately, this episode emphasizes the importance of keeping every origin possibility open—extraterrestrial, ultraterrestrial, extratempestrial, cryptoterrestrial, and interdimensional—without dismissing or prematurely endorsing one over another. Whether the phenomenon is genuinely interdimensional, merely appears that way, or reflects something else entirely, the IDH remains a powerful lens through which to examine UAP and NHI. The episode concludes by setting the stage for the final installment in the series: the NHI Origin Likelihood Chart, where each hypothesis will be graded and compared side by side.

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1 month ago
1 hour 16 minutes 44 seconds

UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
EP 016: The Extraterrestrial Hypothesis

In Part 3 of the NHI Origins miniseries, I explore the Extraterrestrial Hypothesis (ETH), long considered the default explanation for the UAP phenomenon. Despite recent shifts in favor of alternative models, the ETH remains compelling, particularly when considering the abundance of reported craft, the variety of non-human intelligences (NHI) described by eyewitnesses, and the historical consistency of abduction and contact experiences. I examine whether the idea of alien visitors from distant star systems still holds up under scrutiny—and what that might mean for our understanding of why they’re here, how they got here, and what they want.

This episode breaks down common objections to the ETH, particularly the idea that interstellar travel is too expensive or technologically prohibitive. I challenge the assumption that alien civilizations would be bound by the same economic and technological constraints we face, highlighting post-scarcity models, alternative propulsion methods, and the flaw in using our current level of technology as a universal benchmark. I also address the rise in UAP reports following humanity’s detonation of nuclear weapons and whether this “nuclear connection” strengthens or weakens the ETH.

The motives behind a potential alien presence are also explored—from curiosity, observation, and containment to more speculative ideas like genetic intervention or planetary stewardship. I compare the way humans treat animals to how NHI might treat us, suggesting that what we perceive as malevolent could be misunderstood or beyond our moral framework. The episode also considers how eyewitness variability and cultural interpretation may distort the appearance or perceived origin of these beings.

Ultimately, I argue that while the ETH may not be the only viable explanation, it remains one of the most structurally sound—particularly if we allow for long-term presence, local bases, or exotic technologies. I set the stage for the next installment, where the Interdimensional Hypothesis will be explored in depth, followed by a comparative Likelihood Chart to assess all four major origin models.

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2 months ago
1 hour 8 minutes 23 seconds

UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
EP 015: The Extratempestrial Model

In Part 2 of the NHI Origins miniseries, I explore the Extratempestrial Model (ETM), a hypothesis developed by Dr. Michael P. Masters which proposes that at least some UAP-related phenomena may be the result of time-traveling future humans. Drawing from evolutionary anthropology, theoretical physics, and high-quality case studies, Masters suggests that the beings frequently described in abduction and encounter narratives—large-brained, bipedal, humanoid figures—align more closely with what humans may evolve into than with truly alien life.

The discussion then dives into counterarguments to the ETM, including the wide variety of beings and craftdescribed over the decades, which challenge the idea that a single species from one evolutionary path is responsible. Variations in body type, behavior, and technology seem to point toward multiple origins. However, the episode also presents thoughtful counterpoints: perhaps these variations are due to perceptual manipulation, such as telepathic suggestion or altered states of consciousness, which obscure the true nature of the beings being encountered.

I also explore the philosophical and physical underpinnings of time itself, with reference to Julian Barbour’s concept of the “Now,” the Block Universe theory, and ideas from physicists like Carlo Rovelli and Huw Price. These theories suggest that time may not flow, and that past, present, and future could all coexist simultaneously. In such aframework, time travel becomes less paradoxical—not about changing history, but navigating a static landscape of events. This supports the core logic of the ETM: that visits from future humans don’t violate causality, because those visits were always part of the timeline.

In conclusion, while the ETM faces challenges—particularly regarding the diversity of NHI reports—it remains a scientifically grounded and coherent model. When combined with theories that challenge our assumptions about time, it holds up as a viable explanation for the origin of the UAP phenomenon.

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3 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 9 seconds

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Ep 014: Cryptoterrestrial Evolutionary Timelines (Part 2)

In the first installment of the Origins miniseries, I continue with Part 2 of The Cryptoterrestrial / Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis, focusing on hypothetical evolutionary timelines for potential non-human intelligences—species that may have evolved underground in vast subterranean domains. The aim here is to explore how a parallel civilization could have reached intelligence deep in Earth’s past.

This episode features multiple evolutionary scenarios that propose how various non-human species—distinct from Homo sapiens—might have evolved to intelligence and, over time, become responsible for the UAP phenomenon documented throughout recorded history.

At the core of this discussion is the idea of an evolutionary void—one that should have been filled by any ancient species capable of surviving underground. By seeking refuge beneath the surface, such a species could have escaped the many hazards of surface life: from natural disasters and drastic climate shifts to competition for food, territory, and resources.

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4 months ago
1 hour 34 minutes

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Ep 013: The Cryptoterrestrial / Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis (Part 1)

Cryptoterrestrial/Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis is the first installment of an "Origins" mini-series that tackles the 4 main possibilities of potential NHI origin as it relates to the UAP phenomenon. This is Part 1 of 2 for this particular origin possibility.

Part 1 includes all the major arguments in support of Earth being the original point of origin for NHI, whether as a separate species that evolved to intelligence millions of years prior to Homo sapiens, or as a distinct hominin species that branched from a known or unknown line of the Homo genus and went underground to permanently escape hostile climate conditions and competition with other more aggressive hominin species.

This episode also covers specific aspects of the phenomenon that lend support to this particular origin interpretation, to include structures on the Moon, underground bases, USOs, sightings near active volcanos, and much more!

The differences between Cryptoterrestrial and Ultraterrestrial are discussed as well, with distinctions between Ultraterrestrial and Interdimensional interpretations also highlighted.

Part 2 will include hypothetical evolutionary timelines for different potential earthbound species, as well as narratives that touch on possible living conditions of subterranean environments that may have affected their evolution and development. How such an environment might transform a distant member of our species into the typical Gray archetype over hundreds of thousands of years is also detailed within this comprehensive narrative.

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5 months ago
1 hour 53 minutes 15 seconds

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Ep 012: A Reading of "The Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis" by Lomas, Masters, Case

Here I'm offering a reading of an academic paper by Tim Lomas, Brendan Case, and Michael P. Masters titled, "The Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis: A Case for Scientific Openness to a Concealed Earthly Explanation for UAP." It appeared in the June 2024 issue of Philosophy and Cosmology. This is the third and final of such readings surrounding this topic as a lead-up to the next full episode, "The Ultraterrestrial / Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis," which will be the first in a 5-part, NHI-origin miniseries. The trio focuses predominantly on the physical, terrestrial aspects of the ultraterrestrial hypothesis.

(PDF) The Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis: A Case for Scientific Openness to a Concealed Earthly Explanation for Unidentified Anomalous PhenomenaThe Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis: A Case for Scientific Openness to a Concealed Earthly Explanation for Unidentified Anomalous Phenomena

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6 months ago
1 hour 54 minutes 33 seconds

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Ep 011: A Reading of "The Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis" by Tim Lomas

Here I'm offering a reading of an academic paper by Tim Lomas, titled "The Ultraterrestrial Hypothesis: A Case for Scientific Openness to an Interdimensional Explanation for UAP," that appeared in the Journal of Transpersonal Psychology in November 2023. This is the second of 3 such readings surrounding this topic as a lead-up to the next full episode, "The Ultraterrestrial / Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis," which will be the first in a 5-part, NHI-origin miniseries. Dr. Lomas focuses predominantly on the interdimensional aspects of the ultraterrestrial hypothesis.https://www.researchgate.net/publication/375553282_The_ultraterrestrial_hypothesis_A_case_for_scientific_openness_to_an_interdimensional_explanation_for_Unidentified_Anomalous_Phenomena_The_Journal_of_Transpersonal_Psychology_2023_551_43-98

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6 months ago
1 hour 25 minutes 5 seconds

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Ep 010: A Reading of "Ultraterrestrial Models" by Hal Puthoff

Here I'm offering a reading of an academic paper by Hal Puthoff, titled "Ultraterrestrial Models," that appeared in the Journal of Cosmology in September 2022. This will be the first of 3 such readings surrounding this topic as a lead-up to the next full episode, "The Ultraterrestrial / Cryptoterrestrial Hypothesis," which will be the first in a 5-part, NHI-origin miniseries. Dr. Puthoff proposes that the origin of NHI may actually be here as opposed to some distant star system.


(PDF) ULTRATERRESTRIAL MODELS



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7 months ago
28 minutes 9 seconds

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Ep 009: UAP as NHI Probability Worksheet --- Grade any UFO Case

The UAP as NHI Probability worksheet is a 2-page form designed to provide a probability value for non-human involvement regarding any UFO case in history. It basically grades each case on the merits of the available evidence and highlights which ones are more or less likely to feature an NHI connection. Below are links to the site and forms.UFO | UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Science

PDF Page 1: https://www.uapasnhi.com/_files/ugd/e74cdd_194ca7bc161b43088e1a70015a0191fb.pdfPDF Page 2:https://www.uapasnhi.com/_files/ugd/e74cdd_aac959dac86c449f8520a532d02d5bc2.pdfExcell Page 1:https://www.uapasnhi.com/_files/ugd/e74cdd_4faadea1452b4a48bf2476eb6b52c70c.xls?dn=UAP%20Worksheet.xlsExcell Page 2:https://www.uapasnhi.com/_files/ugd/e74cdd_823e1fd16db748b8a677c0a7c5b5c68e.xls?dn=UAP%20Pg%202%20Worksheet.xls

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8 months ago
46 minutes 3 seconds

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EP 008: S.P.E.C.I.A.L. (Part 2) A multi-tiered approach to establishing truth about UAP Phenomena

S.P.E.C.I.A.L. is an acronym that encompasses Scientific, Philosophical, Evidentiary, Chronicled, Invalidation, Anecdotal, and Logical approaches to the UAP phenomenon, deducing a probability value or measure of truth for potential non-human involvement. This episode is Part 2 of the topic and includes the remaining 4 methods of deduction. Be sure to watch Part 1 prior to watching this episode.

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9 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 3 seconds

UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
EP 007: S.P.E.C.I.A.L. (Part 1) A multi-tiered approach to establishing truth about UAP Phenomena

S.P.E.C.I.A.L. is an acronym that encompasses Scientific, Philosophical, Evidentiary, Chronicled, Invalidation, Anecdotal, and Logical approaches to the UAP phenomenon, deducing a probability value or measure of truth for potential non-human involvement. This episode is Part 1 of the topic and includes the introduction plus the first 3 methods of deduction. The remaining 4 will be featured in Part 2 of the program.

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10 months ago
1 hour 49 seconds

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EP 006: Immaculate Constellation PDF Reading

Episode 6 features a reading of the Immaculate Constellation PDF document provided by Nancy Mace on her .gov site. Also included in the reading is the cover letter written by Jeremy Corbell.

Jeremy Corbell's cover letter:https://x.com/ChrisUKSharp/status/1857125387429347574Immaculate Constellation Document (Nancy Mace):https://mace.house.gov/immaculateconstellation

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10 months ago
48 minutes 46 seconds

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EP 005: Stephen Bassett Interview | 2nd Congressional UAP Hearing | Immaculate Constellation

In my very first interview episode, I'm joined by Executive Director of the Paradigm Research Group, Stephen Bassett, to discuss the most recent congressional UAP hearing that took place this past Wednesday, November 13, 2024. We discuss some of the highlights of the hearing, as well as many other topics.

https://paradigmresearchgroup.org/


https://www.hollywooddisclosurealliance.org/founder-stephen-bassett

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11 months ago
1 hour 53 minutes 36 seconds

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EP 004: Science is Wrong About UAP (Part 2)

We resume with Part 2 of Science is Wrong About UAP. This episode continues with highlighting errors in the scientific approach to the UAP topic. Errors in scientific reasoning and logical fallacies are the main focus. An overview of the 1973 encounter of Lt. Col. Lawrence Coyne and his crew in a Bell Huey helicopter with an unknown object near Mansfield, Ohio is provided as one of the best examples where skeptics would have a difficult time explaining away the account.

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1 year ago
54 minutes 4 seconds

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EP 003: Science is Wrong About UAP (Part 1)

Are skeptics approaching the UAP topic fairly when they demand physical proof or hard evidence of non-human involvement, as though that should be a prerequisite for even considering the possibility? Is that lack of extraordinary evidence grounds to ignore or dismiss the thousands of highly credible accounts that actually DO exist? Is that really how science operates: start with concrete proof and work backwards? Or perhaps the scientific approach to this specific kind of mystery is insufficient and physical evidence is only one means of uncovering the truth? Maybe scientists could learn a lot more from actual people, perhaps more so than all their precious instruments combined, if only they were willing to listen…

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1 year ago
35 minutes 43 seconds

UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
EP 002: 10 Rules of Engagement in Ufology

Episode 2 features 10 basic steps to help standardize ufology and get everyone on the same page. 1. Avoid convictions 2. Suspend judgment 3. Abstain from ridicule or personal attacks 4. Avoid claiming absolute certainty 5. Remove all emotion from the equation 6. Acknowledge there exists no substantiated physical evidence 7. Apply truth-seeking methods of SPECIAL 8. Utilize NHI Probability Worksheet 9. Run Bayesian statistical models 10. Leave all NHI origin possibilities on the table

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1 year ago
35 minutes 57 seconds

UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
EP 001: Introduction to UAP as NHI (Standardize Ufology | Eliminate Beliefs | Debunk Skeptics)

Episode 1 highlights most of the topics that will be covered on the program. UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty is a podcast dedicated to promoting a uniquely combined philosophical, scientific, and historical approach to the UFO enigma. The primary goal is to assess a non-human intelligence probability value of the phenomenon without the need for claims of scientific fact or absolute truth.

 

Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon as Non-Human Intelligence is committed to initiating a new paradigm shift in the study and interpretation of modern ufology. The aim is to offer a fresh approach that eliminates the need for "opinion" or "belief" in public discussions about the topic. Instead, a neutral position that fosters unbiased interpretation and pluralistic discourse is encouraged, welcoming contributions from all members of the community, including proponents and skeptics alike.

While concrete scientific evidence establishing the presence of non-human intelligence may be lacking, a certain level of probability can be inferred from the substantial amount of evidence that does exist. The concept revolves around assigning a calculated point value to some of the most compelling UFO cases in history, with the objective of determining an overall probability for or against an NHI interpretation relating to the phenomenon.

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1 year ago
51 minutes 36 seconds

UAP as NHI: Probability vs. Certainty
Unidentified Anomalous Phenomenon as Non-Human Intelligence is a site dedicated to promoting a uniquely combined philosophical, scientific, and logical approach to the UFO enigma. The primary goal is to assess a non-human-intelligence probability value of the phenomenon without the need for claims of scientific fact or absolute truth. The aim is to offer a fresh approach that eliminates the need for "opinion" or "belief" in public discussions about the topic. Instead, a neutral position that fosters non-biased interpretation and pluralistic discourse is encouraged.