In this powerful episode, we’re joined by a special guest — our friend Tolu, who’s about to begin her PhD in psychology. Together, we unpack a listener’s heartfelt dilemma: how do you reconcile your faith with the need for therapy?

Tolu brings insight, compassion, and clarity to the conversation, reminding us that faith and therapy are not enemies — they can actually work hand-in-hand. We dive into why mental illness can be so hard to explain, especially in Christian spaces where struggles aren’t always visible — and aren’t always treated with the care they deserve.

From the stigma around seeking help, to the times when Scripture has been misused to silence mental health concerns, to the cultural influences that discourage vulnerability — we go there. And we ask the big questions: Why does the Church often avoid these conversations? And how can we, as believers, show up better for those quietly suffering?

Whether you’ve been wrestling with your own mental health, or want to learn how to support others with more empathy and grace, this episode is for you.

Helpful mental health resources can be found below:

Find Psychologists and Therapists in Ontario:

https://www.psychologytoday.com/ca/therapists/on/toronto?gad_source=1&gad_campaignid=10264035775&gbraid=0AAAAAD_gfuyQXjVF30j_ttvVMxGWUf9us

Affordable Therapy Options:

https://affordabletherapynetwork.com/online-therapists/

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