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Third Due First In
3rdDue1stIn
12 episodes
3 days ago
The fire service is changing fast — we’re here to talk about it. Third Due First In is the podcast where frontline firefighters, chiefs, and public safety leaders break down the calls, the culture, and the challenges that come with keeping our communities safe. Expect stories, strong opinions, and the kind of straight talk you’d hear around the firehouse bay table.
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The fire service is changing fast — we’re here to talk about it. Third Due First In is the podcast where frontline firefighters, chiefs, and public safety leaders break down the calls, the culture, and the challenges that come with keeping our communities safe. Expect stories, strong opinions, and the kind of straight talk you’d hear around the firehouse bay table.
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Third Due First In
Ep 18 – Chief Scott Garing: Fire Department Mergers and Moving Forward

In Episode 18, Chief Scott Garing joins the show to talk about the merger between the Harmony and Zelienople Fire Departments and what it takes to bring two volunteer companies together under one name. We also discuss leadership, department culture, and how collaboration can strengthen the fire service as a whole.

Listen now and stay connected with the Third Due First In Podcast on Spotify, Apple Podcasts, Amazon Music, and iHeart Radio.

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3 days ago
58 minutes 33 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 17 – The State of Pennsylvania’s Volunteer Fire Service with Commissioner Thomas Cook

In this episode, Keith and Geno sit down with Pennsylvania State Fire Commissioner Thomas Cook to discuss the current state of the volunteer fire service. They cover training challenges, statewide recruitment and retention efforts, funding updates, and how the Commonwealth is addressing the growing need for staffing support across departments. Commissioner Cook also shares insights from his decades of service—from his early years as a firefighter to leading the state’s fire programs.

Plus, stick around for this week’s fire service news stories, updates from around the region, and a look ahead at what’s next for the volunteer fire community.

Follow Third Due First In on YouTube, Facebook, Instagram, X, and TikTok: @3rddue1stin
📧 Contact: 3rddue1stin@gmail.com

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1 week ago
1 hour 13 minutes 43 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 16 – Chief Mark Grimm: Building a Strong Combination Department

This week we’re joined by North Strabane Fire Chief Mark Grimm, who shares his experience leading the transformation of an all-volunteer fire company into one of Western Pennsylvania’s most respected combination departments. Chief Grimm discusses staffing, leadership, culture, and the importance of firefighter health and fitness in today’s fire service.

Plus, we cover regional fire news and updates from across the area.

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2 weeks ago
47 minutes 57 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 15 – Healing Through Horses & Fighting the Hidden Dangers

In Episode 15 of Third Due First In, we sit down with Amber from Bella Terra Stables to talk about their therapy horse program and how equine-assisted healing is helping first responders, veterans, and families find balance and peace through the power of horses.

Then we’re joined once again by Chief Deputy Fire Marshal Don “DB” Brucker, who continues our important discussion on firefighter cancer prevention and dives into the growing threat of lithium battery fires in today’s fire service.

We also hit the latest fire service news, plus updates on our FireCam giveaways and upcoming “Stranger Calls” Halloween episode.

🎙️ Sponsored by FireCam — because the job is tough enough without your gear letting you down.

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3 weeks ago
1 hour 18 minutes 56 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 14 – Therapy Dogs & Firefighter PTSI with Chief Deputy Fire Marshal Don Brucker

in Episode 14 of Third Due First In, we start with Mariah Murphy, who shares the story of her therapy dog Buddy and how programs like hers bring comfort to people during their most difficult times.

Then we sit down with Allegheny County Chief Deputy Fire Marshal Don Brucker for an in-depth discussion on PTSI in the fire service. We cover the challenges first responders face, the importance of mental health resources, and the role of the National Firefighter Cancer Registry in protecting firefighter health.

🚒 Real stories. Real conversations. From the fireground to firefighter wellness — we bring it all to the table.

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1 month ago
1 hour 19 minutes 36 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 13 – Firehouse Law: Paid Crews, Stipends, and the Future of Staffing

In Episode 13 of Third Due First In, Keith and Geno sit down with Attorney Kim Houser—Assistant Chief in Greensburg, PA, rescue specialist with PA-HART and Region 13 Strike Team, Pro-Board Fire Officer I-IV, and senior partner at Mears, Smith, Houser & Boyle, P.C. Kim brings his extensive experience representing over 200 fire departments to unpack the legal side of firehouse operations.

We dive into the growing trend of volunteer departments hiring shift crews, stipend programs. Kim also shares his perspective on what legislation or policies might need to evolve to match the realities of today’s fire service.

As always, the crew covers the latest fire service news, sponsored by FireCam, and Geno closes things out with his final thoughts.

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1 month ago
1 hour 9 minutes 44 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 12 – Trench Rescue Success with Chief Robert Whiten Jr., Captain Matt Prentice & Captain/Paramedic Kerry McCorkle Jr.

In this episode of Third Due First In, Keith is joined by co-host Dan Haeck as they welcome Charleroi Fire Chief Robert Whiten Jr., Captain Matt Prentice, and Captain/Paramedic Kerry McCorkle Jr. to discuss a recent successful trench rescue. The crew walks us through the challenges, tactics, and teamwork that made the operation a success.

Plus, Keith and Dan cover recent fire news, honor the sacrifices of firefighters across the country, and share important info on the National Firefighter Cancer Registry.

👉 Subscribe and follow for future episodes, and connect with us on YouTube, X, Instagram, and more for extra content.

#FireService #Podcast #ThirdDueFirstIn #TrenchRescue

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1 month ago
39 minutes 14 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 11 | Remembering 9/11, Fire Service Stories & Weekly News

Episode 11 of Third Due First In, we open with Geno’s Raised by Giants segment — proudly sponsored by FireCam (firecam.com). From there, we reflect on the events of September 11th, honoring those lost and sharing personal experiences from that day. Dan then takes us into a powerful discussion on notable plane crashes throughout his life, leading into Flight 93.

We also cover the latest fire service news, updates, and preview what’s ahead for the podcast — including upcoming guests like Capt. Matt Prentice (Charleroi FD), Chief Deputy Fire Marshal Donald Brucker, Attorney Kim Houser, and more.

🎧 Listen on Spotify, Amazon Music, Apple Podcasts, and iHeartRadio
📺 Watch the full video on YouTube: https://youtube.com/live/IBH0YMtRGEo?feature=share
🔥 Sponsored by FireCam – firecam.com

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1 month ago
41 minutes 41 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 10 – Chief Dillon Coleman on Live-In Programs, Laying Line, and Training Moments

In Episode 10 of Third Due First In, we sit down with Chief Dillon Coleman to talk about the benefits of live-in programs, laying line under pressure, and how these programs help shape the next generation of firefighters. Deputy Chief Geno shares a training moment, and we hit the latest news from around the fire service.

This episode is brought to you with support from FireCam.com — makers of helmet cams and fireground video solutions built for firefighters.

We’re also proud to support the fire service community:

  • Fundraiser for Lt. Justin "Gondy" Gondringer (Cecil Twp FD): Click here to donate

  • Discount tickets for PNC Park First Responder Nights: Click here for details

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1 month ago
1 hour 5 minutes 28 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 9 – Generational Firefighters & Lessons in Mayday

In this episode of Third Due First In, we sit down with Steven Marsh from Station 235 Logan’s Ferry Heights in Plum Borough to discuss their new stipend program and its impact on the department. Geno leads a “training moment” on mayday procedures and why following them to the letter can make all the difference. We also feature helmet cam footage from Sullivan Esken, followed by an in-studio discussion with Sully on carrying forward the fire service tradition across three generations of his family.

This episode is sponsored by FireCam — the leaders in helmet cams and fire service technology. Check them out at FireCam.com.

🔥 Training, tradition, and tough conversations—Episode 9 brings it all.

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2 months ago
53 minutes 43 seconds

Third Due First In
EP 8 - The Future of Fire Service in Allegheny County | Third Due First In Podcast

In this episode of Third Due First In, we dive into the challenges facing the fire service in Allegheny County and what steps can be taken to move forward.Special Guest: Allegheny County Council President Pat Catena, discussing his recent meetings with local fire companies and what county government can do to help.Co-Host: Chief Dan Haeck, sharing his thoughts on a way forward for the fire service and reflecting on how the 70s, 80s, and 90s compare to today.Sponsored by FireCam – don’t miss details on our FireCam helmet cam giveaway and how you can win!

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2 months ago
1 hour 22 minutes 14 seconds

Third Due First In
Ep 7 – County Meetings, Volunteer Service Challenges & McKeesport Rescues

In Episode 7 of Third Due First In, we kick things off with McKeesport FF Sean Sokolowski sharing highlights about the Jimmy Ellis Training Weekend. Our main guest, Chief James Rush, joins us to break down recent county meetings focused on how to better support local fire departments. Chief Dan Haeck weighs in on the current state of the volunteer fire service and discusses the book Behind the Badge. We also review intense helmet cam footage from a McKeesport house fire with multiple rescues, cover current fire service news, and debut our crisp, upgraded sound equipment that makes this our best-sounding episode yet.

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2 months ago
1 hour 4 minutes 21 seconds

Third Due First In
The fire service is changing fast — we’re here to talk about it. Third Due First In is the podcast where frontline firefighters, chiefs, and public safety leaders break down the calls, the culture, and the challenges that come with keeping our communities safe. Expect stories, strong opinions, and the kind of straight talk you’d hear around the firehouse bay table.