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There’s No Business Like...
nobusinesslike
161 episodes
5 days ago
THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional Arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional Arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.
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There’s No Business Like...
Ep. 160 Matt Smith: Fitness for the Body means Health for the Mind
Ep. 160 Matt Smith: Fitness for the Body means Health for the Mind This week the pod is bringing you something a little different. This week the pod goes fitness! Kevin shares his conversation with his personal trainer, Matt Smith, and talk about how health and wellness impacts your workflow. Matt also shares a beginner workout for use at home, in the gym, or on the road. Matt Smith is a personal trainer, massage therapist, and yoga instructor in Galesburg, Illinois. (https://www.instagram.com/the.movement.journeyman/) Beginner workout routine: https://www.jefit.com/routines/1059035/at-home-strength Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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5 days ago
49 minutes

There’s No Business Like...
Ep. 159 Hot Headlines : Ticket Price Punchline
Ep. 159 Hot Headlines : Ticket Price Punchline This week The Pod Squad rounds up recent industry news including comments from the CEO of Live Nation and significant leadership changes in our industry. And Bryan throws back to MTV Unplugged.... Have opinions on the week’s top stories? Leave us a comment on social media or send us a message!Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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1 week ago
25 minutes

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Ep. 158 It's a Pod-iversary!
Ep. 158 It's a Pod-iversary! It’s a three-year celebration episode for the pod! Thank you all for joining us on this journey. If you are new here, you can find some “starter” playlists here: https://nobusinesslike.com/spotify-playlists Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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2 weeks ago
26 minutes

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Ep.157 The State of the Arts: Arizona Edition!
Ep.157 The State of the Arts: Arizona Edition! This week Katie gathers colleagues from the beautiful state of Arizona to discuss the vibe of the Arizona arts scene, collaboration, programming, and the state of arts funding in the 48th state. Bonnie Schock is the CEO of the Fox Tuscon Theatre in Tuscon, AZ (https://foxtucson.com/). Christina You-sun Park is the Executive Director of the Arizona Commission on the Arts (https://azarts.gov/).Michelle Mac Lennan is the General Manager of the Chandler Center for the Arts in Chandler, AZ (https://www.chandlercenter.org/) and the president of the Arizona Presenters Alliance (https://www.azpresenters.org/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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3 weeks ago
46 minutes

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Ep. 156 Norbert Leo Butz: From Busking to Broadway
Ep. 156 Norbert Leo Butz: From Busking to Broadway Josh had an opportunity to sit down with Broadway legend Norbert Leo Butz at the Midwest Arts Xpo, and we share that conversation here. Norbert shares how he got started in the industry and the stories behind some of the roles he is known best for. Our hosts do their best to play it cool and also share their first named role in a show. Norbert Leo Butz is a two time Tony Award-winning performer known for role in Rent, and originations roles in Wicked, Dirty Rotten Scoundrels, Catch Me if You Can, and many more. His new show Broadway or Busk is touring and represented by Sweetwood Creative (https://sweetwoodiscreative.com/#show-1) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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1 month ago
40 minutes

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Ep. 155 Bill Stanczykiewicz: The State of Philanthropy
Ep. 155 Bill Stanczykiewicz: The State of Philanthropy This week Kevin sits down with Bill Stanczykiewicz from Indiana University’s Lilly Family School of Philanthropy. Bill shares incredible insights into philanthropy including what philanthropy is, what the data is telling us about giving, and breaks down the changes to the tax code. Bill Stanczykiewicz is the Senior Assistant Dean for External Relations, Clinical Associate Professor, and Director of the Fundraising School at the Lilly Family School of Philanthropy (http://go.iu.edu/tfrs). Resources from this episode: Giving USA Report: https://givingusa.org/giving-usa-2025-u-s-charitable-giving-grew-to-592-50-billion-in-2024-lifted-by-stock-market-gains/ IRC 513(i) white paper: https://www.irs.gov/charities-non-profits/advertising-or-qualified-sponsorship-payments The Fundraising School: http://go.iu.edu/tfrs Principles and Techniques of Fundraising: https://philanthropy.indianapolis.iu.edu/professional-development/courses-seminars/the-fund-raising-school/principles-techniques-of-fundraising.html Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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1 month ago
54 minutes

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Ep. 154 Live From MAX – a Conversation on Ticketing
Ep. 154 Live From MAX – a Conversation on Ticketing This week our hosts Josh, Katie, Danielle, and Kevin are coming to you LIVE from the Expo Hall at Midwest Arts Expo 2025. Our four hosts discuss ticketing.  They touch on On Sale and announce schedules, ticket pricing, third party ticketing, and dynamic pricing.  Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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1 month ago
36 minutes

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Ep. 153 Empire Training Center for the Arts: Creating a New Pipeline to the Field
Ep. 153 Empire Training Center for the Arts: Creating a New Pipeline to the Field This week Bryan introduces us to Trish Santini and Frank Butler, co-founders of the new Empire Training Center for the Arts in Poughkeepsie, NY. We learn about Trish and Frank’s extensive and winding careers and what inspired them to create a vocational arts training center that provides accessible and practical technical and administrative training in an intensive 10-month model. Trish Santini and Frank Butler are professional arts administrators and the co-founders of the Empire Training Center for the Arts (https://www.empirearts.org/).Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi
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1 month ago
1 hour 2 minutes

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Ep. 152 The Values of Next Gen Patrons
Ep. 152 The Values of Next Gen PatronsThis week the team and guest Kiersten Birondo talk about a recent study examining Gen Z and Millennials’ perceived cost and value of attending theater, and how we can apply the findings to marketing and audience engagement efforts in venues across the country. You can read the Broadway News article and find the link to the study, “Unveiling the Value of Broadway: How Pulling Back the Curtain on the Broadway Experience Triples Its Value Among Next-Gen Theater Goers”, here: http://bit.ly/47fdqBC. Kiersten Birondo is the Executive Director of the Rozsa Center for the Performing Arts at Michigan Tech University (https://www.mtu.edu/rozsa/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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2 months ago
31 minutes

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Ep. 151 Selling Out or Showing Up?
Ep. 151 Selling Out or Showing Up? The team follows up on Josh’s recent Tuesday Talk with the Ohio Arts Professionals Network (OAPN) about the value of commercial programming - how it can serve your community, support other programming financially, and broaden our industry. You can check out Josh’s Tuesday Talk with OAPN (https://oapn.org/) at https://youtu.be/OiUieO-e_jI?feature=shared Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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2 months ago
28 minutes 5 seconds

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Ep. 150 There's No Business Like - Hot Headlines
Ep. 150 There's No Business Like - Hot Headlines This week Katie, Josh, and Bryan round up and discuss some the industry headlines from the week and the implications for the field. It’s not all bad, though! We do get to chat about a certain musician whose name rhymes with Taylor and everyone’s favorite 90s uncle. Have opinions on the week’s top stories? Leave us a comment on social media or send us a message!Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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2 months ago
28 minutes 18 seconds

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Ep. 149 Mary Jennings: Ballet is Frickin’ Amazing
Ep 149 Mary Jennings: Ballet is Frickin’ Amazing This week the team learns about the Upper Peninsula of Michigan and talk about big transitions leading into Katie’s conversation with Mary Jennings, the Executive Director of the Grand Rapids Ballet. Mary and Katie talk about how to build staff and organizational culture, the impact of resident companies on a community, budgeting and artist pay, and putting dancers on billboards. Mary Jennings is the Executive Director of the Grand Rapids Ballet, Michigan’s only professional ballet company. (https://grballet.com/). Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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2 months ago
1 hour 7 minutes 33 seconds

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Ep. 148 Kara Hettinger: Teaching Artists are Invaluable
Ep. 148 Kara Hettinger: Teaching Artists are Invaluable The team is back from summer break and this week Danielle sits down with colleague Kara Hettinger, and they discuss more ways of building the future of our industry: innovations in reaching teen audiences and training and support for teaching artists. Kara is one of the founding collaborators of the Midwest Teaching Artist Coalition, which is building new ways of creating sustainable careers and connections for teaching artists. Kara Hettinger is the Program Director for Arts Education at the Midwest Trust Center at Johnson Community College in Overland Park, KS (https://www.jccc.edu/midwest-trust-center/). Mentioned in the episode: TeenTix KC (https://kc.teentix.org/) Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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2 months ago
1 hour 31 seconds

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NBL Rewind: Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid Dreams
NBL Rewind: Wone Vang: Never Give Up on Your Stupid Stupid DreamsThis week we wrap our July 20205 Rewind Series as we revisit one of Danielle’s favorite conversations from Season 2, Episode 65 with Wone Vang! Kevin tries out his old-timey radio voice before sitting down with Wone Vang. Wone shares the struggle of being a full-time artist and full-time employee, the Guaranteed Income Program she is managing for Springboard for the Arts, and the importance of pay equity. Our hosts talk about their life in cross stich, what individuals can do to increase pay equity, and how we can learn more on these topics.    Wone Vang is an artist (https://3drdcrafts.com/) and the Economic Opportunity Director at Springboard for the Arts (https://springboardforthearts.org/).  Resources mentioned in this episode: The Art of Economic Justice: https://springboardforthearts.org/wp-content/uploads/2023/02/GI_Impact_Report_SBftA_2023.pdf Stefanie O’Connell Rodriguez: https://tooambitious.com/    Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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3 months ago
34 minutes 50 seconds

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NBL Rewind: Tara Bailey: Take Less Crap from People
NBL Rewind: Tara Bailey: Take Less Crap from PeopleThis week Bryan ensures we feature our friends from the north as we rewind to Danielle’s Season 1 conversation with Canadian agent and Friend of the Pod, Tara Bailey!On this episode Danielle sits down with agent Tara Bailey. We learn how the Grateful Dead and planning underground parties led to a career in the arts. Through Tara’s story we learn about the challenges of visas, the differences in the arts between Canada and the US, the importance of community, and so much more. Our hosts realize they don’t know much about the differences between US and Canada culturally and talk funding and theatre for young audiences.   Tara Bailey is the Founder of Bailiwick Booking Agency and Arts Management (https://www.bailiwick.biz/). Tara also sits on the board of NAPAMA and AASPAA. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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3 months ago
46 minutes 38 seconds

There’s No Business Like...
NBL Rewind: Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time
NBL Rewind: Bob Bennett: Quality Takes Time This week Kevin rewinds us all the way back to Episode 32 to revisit the lessons and great advice offered by Bob Bennett in May 2023. This is also one of Katie’s favorites! Bob Bennett, and his impressive beard, join Josh for a conversation about Jazz, Jazz St. Louis, and all of the options of being part of the industry outside of performance. Bob talks about how change and growth take time, vision, and a good team. Our hosts share their spirit/drink of choice, so now you know what to get us when you see us at “the hang” at conferences! The team also discuss more important topics like the economics of the arts and the many opportunities outside of just performance.  Bob Bennet is the Artistic Director/Director of Operations for Jazz St. Louis (https://jazzstl.org/). Bob is also the Podcast Producer and Sr. Contributor for Bourbon and Banter (https://www.bourbonbanter.com/) a podcast exploring the world of bourbon and other spirits. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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3 months ago
49 minutes 57 seconds

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NBL Rewind: The State of Development with Lori L. Jacobwith
NBL Rewind: The State of Development with Lori L. JacobwithThis week Katie is rewinding to earlier this year and gasp! recommends you sit still and listen deeply to this one! So grab your earbuds, a pen, and comfy chair and adult beverage of choice and enjoy! This week, Kevin sits down with fundraising professional Lori L. Jacobwith to talk about the changing development landscape. Lori shares her top 5 things you can do right now and gives insight into the world of philanthropy. If you want to go deeper on the topic with Lori, you can check out her webinar with GrantStation recorded on April 1: https://grantstation.com/product/webinar-recordings/how-fundraise-during-times-fear-and-uncertainty-recording Lori L. Jacobwith is the Founder of Ignited Fundraising (https://ignitedfundraising.com/). The sweet spot of her work is to help organizations put a face on their impact by sharing inspiring, ethical mission moment stories. For more than 35 years Lori has had a laser focus on helping nonprofit staff & board members implement fundraising solutions that put ease and joy into raising money. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.  
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3 months ago
48 minutes 33 seconds

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NBL Rewind: Micah Christian: A Process Unfolding
NBL Rewind: Micah Christian: A Process UnfoldingIt’s summer vacation! The Pod Squad is taking a break and sharing some of their favorite conversations from the beach for the month of July. This week Josh rewinds to Ep. 64 with musician Micah Christian. This week Bryan sits down with the lead vocalist of Sons of Serendip, Micah Christian. Micah opens up about his journey into creating music, learning to not compare himself to others, life on the road, and more. Meanwhile, our hosts have a rousing conversation about ringtones and ring backs, Bryan effectively shuts down criticism, and realize we all have learning to do on how the music charts work.  Micah Christian is an artist passionate about storytelling, composing, and performing music that supports, enhances, and creates meaningful moments. He is the co-founder and lead vocalist of America's Got Talent Finalist, Sons of Serendip (https://www.sonsofserendip.com/). Micah is also on the board of NAPAMA. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions - https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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4 months ago
55 minutes 27 seconds

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Ep. 142 Investing in Our Future
Ep 142: Investing in Our FutureThis week guests Paige Hernandez, Daniel Hahn, and Karoline Myers stop by the pod to talk about the importance of and creative ways of commissioning new work from both the artist and venue perspectives. Daniel and Karoline also share about a new commissioning funding model, the TYA Tour Development Collective, which just completed its pilot year and is connecting artists directly with venues for funding.Paige Hernandez is a multidisciplinary artist that has been creating work for young audiences for over 20 years (www.paigehernandez.com). Daniel Hahn is the Vice President of Education at Playhouse Square in Cleveland, OH (www.playhousesquare.org). Karoline Myers is the Director of Education at Des Moines Performing Arts (www.desmoinesperformingarts.org).You can learn more about the TYA Tour Development Collective at www.tyatourdevelopment.org.Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod   Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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4 months ago
48 minutes 18 seconds

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Ep. 141 NBL Summer Check-In
Ep. 141 NBL Summer Check-In Join Josh, Katie, and Kevin this week as they talk about what they are thinking about in our industry – the good and the bad. We would love to hear what you are thinking about- send us an email or reach out through socials. Follow us on social media and let us know your thoughts and questions – https://linktr.ee/nobusinesslikepod   Our theme song is composed by Vic Davi.
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4 months ago
29 minutes 12 seconds

There’s No Business Like...
THERE’S NO BUSINESS LIKE... The podcast that explores topics and talks with leaders of the professional Arts touring industry! The ”Quad” Producers (Josh, Danielle, Katie, Bryan, and Kevin) discuss a range of arts related topics and share an interview with a different industry leader each week.