In this episode, we talk with Dr. Maren Haynes Marchesini (Helena, MO). Dr. Haynes Marchesini talks with us about the music and worship culture at the infamous Mars Hill Church, Seattle WA. Our conversation explores the relationship between the subcultural musical styles and the Pastor Mark Driscoll's niche, aggressive approach to a patriarchal and gender complementarian faith. Dr. Haynes Marchesini encourages us to think about reflect regularly our worship enacts our values as a community and wrestle with our inherited traditions.