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The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
The WHSSS Podcast. Honest & Open Talk about Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
68 episodes
5 days ago
The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.
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The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.
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The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 70 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “Is Your Partner Using Dating Apps? 11 Signs Their Profile’s Still Active”

Episode 70 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “Is Your Partner Using Dating Apps? 11 Signs Their Profile’s Still Active”

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:  https://www.bolde.com/partner-using-dating-apps-signs-profiles-still-active/

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1 year ago
38 minutes 51 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 69 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “This is your brain on dating apps”

Episode 69 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “This is your brain on dating apps”

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link
https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:  https://www.nationalgeographic.com/science/article/dating-apps-psychology-addiction-lawsuit

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138

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1 year ago
48 minutes

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 68 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “Meet senior singles – places to find love later in life”

Episode 68 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “Meet senior singles – places to find love later in life”

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.


Spotify Link
https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/online-dating/mature-dating/senior-dating/

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138

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1 year ago
51 minutes 16 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 67 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “Over 50s dating tips for finding love in later life"

Episode 67 - Michele and Erik talk about:  “Over 50s dating tips for finding love in later life"

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link
https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:  https://www.telegraph.co.uk/online-dating/mature-dating/over-50s-dating/

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook
https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138

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1 year ago
41 minutes 39 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 66 - Michele and Erik talk about: "Online Dating Scams: How to Tell If You Are Being Baited by a Catfish"

Episode 66 - Michele and Erik talk about: "Online Dating Scams: How to Tell If You Are Being Baited by a Catfish"


The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.


Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA


Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258


Article Link: https://www.drphil.com/advice/online-dating-scams-how-to-tell-if-you-are-being-baited-by-a-catfish


Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat

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1 year ago
53 minutes 50 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 65 - Michele and Erik talk about: "Welcome to the Age of AI-Powered Dating Apps"

Episode 65 - Michele and Erik talk about: "Welcome to the Age of AI-Powered Dating Apps"


The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.


Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA


Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258


Article Link: https://nymag.com/intelligencer/2023/08/welcome-to-the-age-of-ai-powered-dating-apps.html


Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat

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1 year ago
1 hour 42 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 64 - Michele and Erik talk about: My Problem with First Dates and Fifty-Something-Year-Old Men

Episode 64 - Michele and Erik talk about: My Problem with First Dates and Fifty-Something-Year-Old Men


The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.


Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA


Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258


Article Link:

https://kerrymcavoyphd.com/first-dates-and-50-something-year-old-men/


Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

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1 year ago
1 hour 25 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 63 - Taylor Swift Is Teaching Us That We Should Date Outside Our ‘Type’

Episode 63 - Michele and Erik talk about:  Taylor Swift Is Teaching Us That We Should Date Outside Our ‘Type’

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link
https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:  https://theeverygirl.com/dating-outside-type/


Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook
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1 year ago
52 minutes 14 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 62 - Michele and Erik talk about “Here’s Exactly How To Tell if the Person You’re Dating Is Emotionally Available "

Episode 62 - Michele and Erik talk about “Here’s Exactly How To Tell if the Person You’re Dating Is Emotionally Available "


The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA


Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258


Article Link:

https://theeverygirl.com/emotional-availability/


Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138


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1 year ago
50 minutes 44 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 61 - Michele and Erik talk about “Dating at 50 and up: Older Americans’ experiences with online dating"

Episode 61 - Michele and Erik talk about “Dating at 50 and up: Older Americans’ experiences with online dating"


The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA


Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258


Article Link:

https://www.pewresearch.org/short-reads/2023/07/17/dating-at-50-and-up-older-americans-experiences-with-online-dating/


Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138


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1 year ago
53 minutes 5 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 60 - Michele and Erik talk about “It’s a Match! How To Navigate Online Dating Later in Life” from Katie Couric

Episode 60 - Michele and Erik talk about “It’s a Match! How To Navigate Online Dating Later in Life” from Katie Couric


The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.


Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA


Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/ca/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258


Article Link:

https://katiecouric.com/lifestyle/relationships/online-dating-tips-older-people-over-50/


Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

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1 year ago
1 hour 4 minutes 15 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 59 - Michele and Erik talk about the best dating advice for those over 50 by Oprah Daily

Episode 59 - Michele and Erik talk about the best dating advice for those over 50 by Oprah Daily

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:

https://www.oprahdaily.com/life/a26289909/dating-after-40-advice/

 

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138

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2 years ago
1 hour 42 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 58 - Michele and Erik talk about 25 Problems With Online Dating & How to Solve Them

Episode 58 - Michele and Erik talk about 25 Problems With Online Dating & How to Solve Them

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:

https://www.datingadvice.com/online-dating/problems-with-online-dating

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

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2 years ago
59 minutes 53 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 57 - Michele and Erik talk about how body image, not your body affects dating life after 50

Episode 57 - Michele and Erik talk about how body image, not your body affects dating life after 50

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

 

Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

 

Article Link
https://findaqualityman.com/body-dating-life-after-50/ 

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

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2 years ago
1 hour 2 minutes 12 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 56 - Michele and Erik talk about how to recognize those Beige Flags when online dating

Episode 56 - Michele and Erik talk about how to recognize those Beige Flags when online dating

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

 

Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

 

Article Link
https://theeverygirl.com/beige-flags/

 

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138


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2 years ago
55 minutes 58 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 55 - Michele and Erik talk with Justin an online dating success story

Episode 55 - Michele and Erik talk with Justin an online dating success story who met his wife on the Bumble dating app.

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link

https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

 

Apple Link

https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

 

Menopause Mastery Fit Tips and Fat Loss Group – Facebook

https://www.facebook.com/groups/624721268386138

 

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2 years ago
51 minutes 50 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 54 –13 Great First Date Questions Backed by Science

Episode 54 –13 Great First Date Questions Backed by Science

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.


Spotify Link https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA


Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258


Article Link:  https://www.scienceofpeople.com/first-date-questions/


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2 years ago
1 hour 10 minutes 13 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 53 –As a divorcee in my 50s, I started online dating. This is what I learnt 

Episode 53 –As a divorcee in my 50s, I started online dating. This is what I learnt 

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.


Spotify Link
https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:  https://www.smh.com.au/lifestyle/life-and-relationships/as-a-divorcee-in-my-50s-i-started-online-dating-this-is-what-i-learnt-20210422-p57lct.html

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2 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 22 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 52 –The 21 Things to Watch Out for when Dating after Age 50

Episode 52 –The 21 Things to Watch Out for when Dating after Age 50

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years.  You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link
https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link:  https://www.wikihow.com/Red-Flags-when-Dating-in-Your-50s

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2 years ago
1 hour 4 minutes 16 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
Episode 51 - The 15 Important Dos And Don’ts Of Dating After 50

Episode 51 - 15 Important Dos And Don’ts Of Dating After 50

The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years.  You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.

Spotify Link
https://open.spotify.com/show/59FCZin5fIiHlKyZxVw9SA

Apple Link
https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-what-he-said-she-said-podcast-w-erik-michele/id1619094258

Article Link: https://www.momjunction.com/articles/dating-after-50_00637953/

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2 years ago
1 hour 3 minutes 31 seconds

The What He Said She Said Podcast w/Erik & Michele. A fresh look to Online Dating in our 40's & 50's
The online dating world is full of twists and turns for those of us in our 40's, 50's and 60's. Find an alternative podcast to the world of online dating with Erik and Michele as we delve into the challenges with a bit of humor and packed with our personal experiences. The WHSSS Podcast is an interesting look behind the curtain with 2 people who have been out there for a number of years. You will laugh, you may cry a little but walk away with a fresh and interesting perspective.