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The Underdog NFL Show
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268 episodes
22 hours ago
Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines talk all things NFL football year round, covering the sport with a unique blend of insight and humor -- along some help from their contacts from around the football world. For advertising opportunities on this show, or any of the other shows on our network, contact us at: advertise@underdogsportsnetwork.com
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Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines talk all things NFL football year round, covering the sport with a unique blend of insight and humor -- along some help from their contacts from around the football world. For advertising opportunities on this show, or any of the other shows on our network, contact us at: advertise@underdogsportsnetwork.com
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The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 263: Week 10 and The Big Moves
• Trade Deadline Rundown (00:00:18–22:34:18) Chris and Mario unravel a chaotic deadline: Eagles add Jair Alexander and Jalen Phillips; Ravens grab Dre'Mont Jones; Cowboys land Logan Wilson and Quinnen Williams; Jaguars secure Jacoby Myers; Jets shock the league trading Sauce Gardner and later adding Jasser Taylor; Seattle acquires Rashid Shaheed; Bears pick up Joe Tryon; Chargers trade for Trevor Penning. Conversation swings between fit, upside, contracts, scheme changes, and organizational direction. They also question the Jets' teardown, the Colts' aggression, and the Dolphins staying quiet. College QB class talk follows: Sellers, More, Simpson, and draft uncertainty. Week 10 NFL Games (with +18s added) • Raiders at Broncos – 23:10 Denver's physicality and consistency earn praise; Las Vegas looks flat and uninspired. • Falcons vs Colts (Berlin) – 29:23 Mario's “lock of the week.” Falcons' defense can't stop anyone; Colts favored to control the game. • Ravens at Vikings – 30:11 Minnesota gets JJ back, but Baltimore's momentum and Lamar's form make them the stronger side. • Bills at Dolphins – 31:09 Miami's instability overshadows talent; Buffalo seen as prepared and steady after a big win. • Browns at Jets – 33:38 Jets' teardown continues; Cleveland likely benefits from New York's dysfunction. • Jaguars at Texans – 36:15 With Houston missing CJ Stroud, Jacksonville's new WR additions give them the edge. • Patriots at Buccaneers – 37:27 Oddsmakers' tiny line surprises both hosts; Tampa viewed as clearly stronger. • Saints at Panthers – 40:52 Carolina suddenly competitive; New Orleans' inconsistency pushes the edge to the Panthers. • Giants at Bears – 45:22 Chicago still difficult to trust; despite issues, Bears are the more functional team. • Cardinals at Seahawks – 47:09 Seattle's home advantage and Arizona's uncertainty (including Kyler's future) point strongly toward the Seahawks.
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22 hours ago
1 hour 1 minute 14 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 262: The Halfway Mark, Already
🎙️ Opening (00:00 → 00:18) Birthday talk, mortality jokes, Amazon wishlists, tech habits Retail therapy & collecting kicks → soccer obsession as the “methadone” for sneakers Deep dive into new passion for global football (Wrexham, pyramid system, kits) MLS talk, DC United kits, future promotion/relegation in U.S. soccer Shoe pickup: Jordan Zion “Reverse Voodoo” Banter about acting, Colin Farrell, Kiefer Sutherland, random movie tangent 🏈 NFL WEEK 9 GAMES Ravens at Dolphins (14:33 → 14:51) Dolphins' huge offensive week discussed Ravens getting healthier; full 53 active reported Identity-shaping matchup for Baltimore Falcons at Patriots (16:33 → 16:51) Patriots gauge progress, protect ball with young QB Pats elite run defense vs. Falcons ground attack Panthers at Packers (18:26 → 18:44) Panthers offensive struggles highlighted Green Bay pass rush and run defense key storyline Bears at Bengals (23:51 → 24:09) Joe Flacco resurgence & feeding Jamar Chase Chase's massive target volume emphasized Broncos at Texans (29:19 → 29:37) Injury watch: key Denver defensive star hurt Houston's run-game questions; Mixon uncertainty Mention of trade buzz & Breece Hall's performance Colts at Steelers (32:32 → 32:50) Steelers' defensive struggles continue Colts physical play & momentum focus Chargers at Titans (34:10 → 34:28) Chargers inconsistency theme Personnel notes: McConkey usage rising, RB injuries Vikings at Lions (36:10 → 36:28) Vikings QB health uncertainty Detroit expected to reassert after bye 49ers at Giants (37:01 → 37:19) QB watch: Brock Purdy status monitored Giants QB injuries & emotional angle Officiating frustration from prior week mentioned Jaguars at Raiders (43:41 → 43:59) Raiders offensive line woes, young weapons Jaguars stability vs. struggling LV roster
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1 week ago
1 hour 10 minutes 23 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 261: The Trade Deadline Approaches
[00:18] Introduction & Welcome Back Chris returns safely from overseas travel Brief discussion of last week's unusual recording setup with AirPods and poor WiFi [01:05] NFL Trade Deadline Deep Dive Trade deadline approaching in less than two weeks Comprehensive review of ESPN's top 25 potential trade candidates Evan Neal (#25): Former #7 overall pick from Giants; hosts discuss potential reclamation project at guard for Eagles, similar to Mekhi Becton situation Saquon Barkley's concerning stats: now second in NFL for tackles in backfield, longest run only 18 yards this season (had 22 carries of 18+ yards last year) Roger McCreary (#14): Titans cornerback discussed as steady option for teams needing secondary help Arden Key (#13): Titans edge rusher - hosts skeptical of his value despite athletic profile Chris Olave (#7): Saints receiver as potential fit for Giants opposite Malik Nabers and Daniel Jones Riq Woolen (#4): Seahawks cornerback (6'4" with 4.3 speed) - doesn't fit Mike McDonald's defensive scheme; potential fits include Lions, Eagles, Falcons Breece Hall (#3): Jets running back; team fits include Chargers, Chiefs, Texans despite Hall wanting to stay Jaylen Waddle (#2): Dolphins receiver (10% trade chance); Giants and Steelers best fits Trey Hendrickson (#1): Bengals edge rusher most likely to be traded; Colts identified as intriguing fit [23:00] Indianapolis Colts Success Story Colts praised as surprise team with best record in league Shane Steichen's play-calling excellence highlighted Anthony Richardson benching decision discussed as bold move that paid off [24:22] NBA Scandal Sidebar Chauncey Billups arrest mentioned involving rigged poker games tied to the mafia Comparison to movie plots; discussion of how reality matches fiction Brief mention of other NBA controversies including Kawhi Leonard situation [27:04] Week 7 NFL Schedule Breakdown Thursday Night Football [28:04]: Vikings at Chargers (Chargers -3.5 per oddsmakers) Vikings dealing with quarterback issues; consistency concerns mounting Chargers at home with better positioning despite both teams having issues Sunday Early Games: [29:56] Bills at Panthers (Panthers +7) Panthers showing legitimate improvement with Bryce Young Rico Dowdle discussion as functional backup running back Ticket prices surprisingly expensive for Panthers home game Young and CJ Stroud playing at similar mediocre levels recently Bills expected to win convincingly by more than touchdown [32:50] Bears at Ravens (Ravens -6.5) Lamar Jackson's practice status TBD but expected to play Bears playing legitimate football but not expected to overcome Ravens at home [33:28] Browns at Patriots (Patriots -7) Shadeur Sanders discussion Sanders not getting any first-team practice snaps despite being backup Stefanski wouldn't commit to Sanders as #2 over Bailey Zappe Quinchon Johnson's recent performance analyzed: 25 carries, 3 TDs but only 3.4 YPC against Dolphins Drake May praised as likable with upside as top 10-12 quarterback May compared to Mitch Trubisky in personality (happy, puppy-like demeanor) Rhamondre Stevenson primary back but Henderson only got 2 carries despite being high draft pick [41:00] Dolphins at Falcons (Falcons -7.5) Michael Penix Jr. described as "okay" - consistent mediocrity expected Suggestion that Raheem Morris may dislike Kirk Cousins Dolphins described as "shell of an NFL team" [42:30] Giants at Eagles (Eagles -7.5) Strong revenge game narrative after Eagles' embarrassing blowout loss earlier in season Hosts expect Eagles to dominate convincingly Jalen Hurts in "area code" of Jordan/Kobe revenge mentality [43:40] Jets at Bengals (Bengals -6) Framed as "former Browns backup quarterbacks battle" with Tyrod Taylor vs Joe Flacco Jets moving to Taylor after Woody Johnson publicly criticized Justin Fields Described as skippable game [44:32] 49ers at Texans (Texans -2) Brock Purdy vs Mac Jones quarterback situation for 49ers Christian McCaffrey's return: 24 carries, 129 yards, 2 TDs plus 72 receiving yards McCaffrey's performance gives hope for Saquon Barkley's potential recovery Joe Mixon return timeline unclear for Texans Texans reportedly interested in acquiring Breece Hall Discussion of "breaking inertia" with backup quarterback having residual negative effects [47:15] Buccaneers at Saints (Saints +3.5) Bucs expected to bounce back after disappointing Monday Night loss to Lions Baker Mayfield surprisingly inefficient in Detroit Defense gave up unexpected plays Gibbs praised for Lions' performance [48:15] Cowboys at Broncos (Broncos -3) Javonte Williams "revenge game" discussion against former team Williams having career year with Cowboys on one-year deal Extensive free agency speculation for 2025 Discussion of Williams as quality second running back, similar evaluation of Isaiah Pacheco Altitude factor in Denver mentioned [54:16] Titans at Colts (Colts -14.5) Largest spread of week at 14.5 points Colts identified as hosts' "favorite AFC team" Expected dominant Colts victory Sunday Night Football [54:25]: Packers at Steelers (Steelers +3) Steelers' inability to close games highlighted as persistent problem NFC North rivalry dynamics discussed Steelers can't protect quarterback concerns Monday Night Football [55:26]: Commanders at Chiefs (Chiefs -12) Marcus Mariota starting for injured Jaden Daniels Second-largest spread of week Daniels' injury concerns: longest rush only 18 yards this season, on pace for just 2,500 passing yards Question raised about overlooking size concerns too quickly RG3 comparison made regarding Washington's history of mismanaging franchise QBs Daniels praised for elite pure passing upside even without running Washington's "win now" moves discussed Team described as "weird" - perhaps anointed too early as contenders
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2 weeks ago
59 minutes 4 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 260: The Classic 1:20 AM Kickoff
On this week's episode of The Underdog NFL Show, Chris is traveling internationally and recording the show from Ireland!  Together, he and Mario take a look at the each and every NFL game this week, break them down and give picks for each.
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3 weeks ago
55 minutes 37 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 259: Joe Flacco Might Die
🎙️ Open (00:00 → 10:14) Chris and Mario open with light banter about time flying, joking about writing 2026 on checks, time travel, and hypothetical ways to use future knowledge for profit (notably Bitcoin). They discuss how isolating it would be to relive childhood with adult knowledge before transitioning to football talk. 🏈 Thursday Night Football: Eagles vs Giants (11:01 → 17:12) Line: Giants +7.5 The hosts react to Philly's loss and note defensive stats: Eagles allowing just 2.9 yards per carry over the last 3 games and leading the NFL in 3-and-outs. Discussion centers on offensive struggles, locker room tension (AJ Brown, Saquon Barkley, Jalen Hurts), and offensive line injuries (Lane Johnson, Landon Dickerson, Juergens). They emphasize Philadelphia's 10-1 record in their last 11 Thursday games and mock rotation decisions with backups Matt Pryor and Brett Toth. 🌍 London Game: Broncos vs Jets (17:12 → 19:22) Line: Jets +7 Hosts question whether this could be the Jets' first win abroad. Praise for Breece Hall, dubbed “Mr. London” (6.0 YPC in UK games). Both agree Denver likely dominates due to coaching and defensive structure. 🐎 Cardinals vs Colts (19:26 → 26:40) Line: Colts −7 They discuss Indy's sneaky-good offense and Arizona's inconsistency. Segment diverges into coach Jonathan Gannon's $100K fine for an on-field altercation, drawing comparisons to Bruce Arians' past incident. Tangent: an extended Buffalo Wild Wings (“BW3”) lore and contest bit, offering a $250 gift card for funniest fake origin story. 🏙️ Browns vs Steelers (26:44 → 30:20) Line: Steelers −5.5 Hosts predict a big Steelers win but mock both teams' offensive ineptitude. Discuss Kevin Stefanski's QB indecision between Zappe and Shedeur Sanders, and the fallout of Joe Flacco's trade exit. Debate Shedeur's attitude, media presence, and perceived entitlement. 🐈 Cowboys vs Panthers (30:25 → 32:15) Line: Panthers +3 Mario boldly predicts a Panthers upset, citing momentum and Dallas' inconsistency. Noted Carolina's league-worst 23 sacks allowed and Dallas' dominance over the NFC South (9-1 since 2021). Praise for Javonte Williams' resurgence, comparing him to Nick Chubb. ⚫ Rams vs Ravens (32:16 → 34:23) Line: Ravens −3 Discussion on Baltimore's strange trade sending Odafe Oweh to Tennessee for Alohi Gilman plus a pick, while signing C.J. Gardner-Johnson. Speculation that “something's up” in Baltimore, possibly locker room tension. Praise for Puka Nacua, tying the NFL record for most catches in first five games. Mario sides with the Rams if Lamar Jackson sits. 🏴‍☠️ 49ers vs Buccaneers (34:23 → 37:37) Line: Bucs −3 Mario declares Tampa “his favorite non-Lions team.” Chris highlights Mac Jones' resurgence with the 49ers (300+ yards, 2 TD avg). Debate over Brock Purdy's long-term value, suggesting Jones fits Shanahan's system better. Speculation about Jones' next move — possibly backing up Josh Allen in Buffalo for career rehab. 🐆 Seahawks vs Jaguars (37:54 → 39:39) Line: Jaguars −1 Praise for Trevor Lawrence's grit, “winning ugly but effectively.” Comparison to “Excalibur moment” leadership growth. Recap of Darnold vs Baker shootout from prior week (380 vs 340 yards). Jaguars' ability to “flip the switch” earns both hosts' confidence. 🎰 Titans vs Raiders (40:28 → 42:48) Line: Raiders −4 Mixed feelings on Cam Ward's flashes amid Tennessee's poor roster. Hosts criticize the Titans' nonexistent offense and lack of weapons. Expect the Raiders to win behind Geno-like low-turnover efficiency. 🧀 Bengals vs Packers (42:48 → 44:21) Line: Packers −14 Unsure if Joe Flacco starts; both slam Jake Browning's play. Mock the Bengals' logic of signing “the slowest QB alive.” Expect a comfortable Packers win (“by 12–14”). ⚜️ Patriots vs Saints (44:23 → 45:35) Line: Saints +3 Hosts recap New England's emotional high after a big upset. Mario warns of regression and expects a Saints upset, noting travel fatigue and Diggs' inconsistency. 🦁 Sunday Night Football: Lions vs Chiefs (46:16 → 47:44) Line: Chiefs −2.5 Deep dive into Detroit's secondary concerns and run-game dominance. Mario predicts the Lions could produce two 100-yard rushers and questions KC's mystique. Chris notes the Chiefs haven't lost to Detroit at Arrowhead since 1988.
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1 month ago
55 minutes 37 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 258: The End of the Flacco Era?
Opening & Headlines (00:31 → 01:25) Chris and Mario kick off with October vibes, quick NFL notes, and headline drama around Joe Flacco's struggles and Cleveland's QB shuffle. Shador Sanders' frustration at being QB3 is debated, and Kevin Stefanski's decision-making is defended. Quarterback Era Talk (03:18 → 11:53) Discussion on Dillion Gabriel starting for the Browns in Dublin vs. Carson Wentz (Vikings). Broader reflections on today's demand for instant QB success, rookie evaluations (Cam Ward, Fernando Mendoza, Dante Moore, Lenora Sellers), and Nick Harbour's positional misfit. NFL Injury Spotlight (15:16 → 19:19) Deep dive into Tyreek Hill's injury, his unusual reaction on the stretcher, and speculation about his future landing spots. Eagles & League Trends (20:31 → 27:07) Sean Payton's “tush push” comments, Eagles' 4-0 start despite being outgained in every game, and offensive frustrations. 🏈 NFL Week 5 Game Discussions 49ers @ Rams (27:37 → 37:52) San Francisco's QB injuries noted; Rams praised for resilience. Stafford steady, Puka Nacua highlighted as emerging elite WR. Vikings vs Browns (Dublin) (37:56 → 39:38) Carson Wentz vs. Dylan Gabriel matchup discussed. JJ McCarthy's injury status uncertain. Cowboys @ Jets (39:52 → 43:21) Jets' Justin Fields reliant on big plays; Cowboys' defense surprisingly weak. Dak's inconsistency and OL concerns highlighted. Broncos @ Eagles (43:27 → 45:40) Eagles' offensive line struggles impacting Saquon Barkley. Philly's run-game issues and O-line injuries emphasized. Texans @ Ravens (46:16 → 47:53) Lamar Jackson's availability unclear. Texans' offensive inconsistency despite Nico Collins' contributions. Panthers @ Dolphins (50:33 → 51:17) Bryce Young's struggles continue. Hendon Hooker's name surfaces as possible future option. Miami favored. Giants @ Saints (51:32 → 52:28) Saints' defense steady; Giants' QB Dart might regress with film now available and without elite WR support. Titans @ Cardinals (56:34 → 57:26) Arizona's defense strong, but offense uncertain. Titans' potential to randomly “click” lingers. Lions @ Bengals (57:26 → 58:44) Detroit heavily favored. Bengals' offensive decline with Jake Browning at QB, Jamar Chase frustration noted. Seahawks @ Buccaneers (55:31 → 56:32) Seattle's RB rotation (Walker/Charbonnet) inconsistent. Tampa Bay's scheme execution cleaner.
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1 month ago
1 hour 14 minutes 36 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 257: Lost Bravado
[00:18–03:35] Injuries & NFL Landscape Shifts Chris and Mario start with the impact of injuries across the league—highlighting issues affecting team depth, quarterback changes, and shifting dynamics through two weeks. [03:36–05:22] 49ers at Jaguars & Saints at Seahawks They look at the Niners' depth issues and the Jaguars' need for offensive improvement. In Seahawks-Saints, Seattle's run game is solid, while New Orleans struggles for identity. [05:23–07:41] Steelers at Patriots & Jets at Dolphins Steelers-Patriots focuses on both teams' stagnant offenses and QB uncertainty. For Jets-Dolphins, the conversation covers Miami's home-field advantage and New York's inconsistency. [07:42–09:33] Bills at Cardinals & Chargers at Giants Bills-Cardinals centers on Arizona's competitive defense and Buffalo's firepower. Chargers-Giants is framed around Herbert's comfort level and NY's RB workload. [09:34–11:51] Eagles at Buccaneers & Rams at Colts Jalen Hurts' rhythm vs. Tampa's defense is key in Eagles-Bucs. Rams-Colts features praise for Indy's surprising start and LA's evolving backfield. [11:52–14:28] Browns at Lions & Bears at Raiders Cleveland's defense is stifling, while Detroit's offense continues to click. Bears-Raiders includes notes on Caleb Williams' growth and Vegas' need for big plays. [14:29–17:10] Cowboys at Packers & Falcons at Commanders Dallas' wideout injuries and Green Bay's balance are discussed. Falcons-Commanders revolves around QB options, a shaky Washington defense, and Kyle Pitts' reemergence. [17:11–19:06] Titans at Texans & Panthers at Patriots Stroud's regression and Cam Ward's tough matchups are noted in Titans-Texans. Panthers-Patriots doubles down on Maye's turnovers and Carolina's odd offensive efficiency. [19:07–21:02] Saints at Seahawks & Broncos at Chiefs A brief second take on Saints-Seahawks revisits Geno Smith's inconsistency. Broncos-Chiefs touches on KC's offensive identity and Denver's youth-driven lineup. [21:03–23:18] Vikings vs Steelers in London They highlight the London game as a potential turning point for both squads. QB performances and travel fatigue are touched on. [23:19–25:00] Bengals at Vikings & Quarterback Rotation Browning and Wentz are the focus in Cincy-Minnesota. The conversation addresses game speed, system fit, and execution. [25:01–26:41] Ravens at Chiefs & Monday Night Outlook The marquee matchup pits two contenders with postseason histories. They close with quick notes on how this game may define early AFC narratives.
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1 month ago
1 hour 10 minutes 26 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 256: Week 3 NFL Preview
[00:28–03:19] Lions' Week 2 Bounce-Back & Ben Johnson Critique Chris and Mario discuss Detroit's Week 2 win and Ben Johnson's leadership. They debate if Johnson is head-coach material based on early postgame remarks. [03:20–07:12] Quarterback Injuries & Bengals' QB Market Joe Burrow's uncertain status sparks a breakdown of Cincy's options. Oddsmakers' odds on potential replacements include Derek Carr, Jameis Winston, and Carson Wentz. Other injuries to McCarthy and Purdy are also mentioned. [07:13–09:32] Thursday: Dolphins at Bills Buffalo is favored by 12. The hosts break down Miami's inconsistency and Buffalo's ability to dominate both on the ground and through the air. [09:33–10:54] Falcons at Panthers Atlanta is ascending offensively, while Carolina's defense struggles. Leggett's lack of development is a concern despite high draft capital. [10:55–13:55] Bengals at Vikings (Wentz vs Browning) Minnesota starts Carson Wentz, Cincinnati turns to Jake Browning. Wentz is seen as a top-tier backup; the matchup could reshape perceptions of each team's QB decisions. [13:56–16:57] Packers at Browns Green Bay is banged up at WR, while Joe Flacco's days in Cleveland seem numbered. Dylan Gabriel's emergence and Shador Sanders' presence loom. [16:58–19:58] Texans at Jaguars Jacksonville is a slight favorite. Struggles between Trevor Lawrence and Brian Thomas Jr. are noted. Houston's overachieving two years ago may have skewed expectations. [19:59–22:31] Colts at Titans Daniel Jones leads Indy as Cam Ward sparks Tennessee. Tyler Warren shines while Colston Loveland fades in Chicago. Jonathan Taylor's return is impactful. [22:32–24:51] Raiders at Commanders Geno Smith's up-and-down performance is discussed. Raiders' WR depth is a concern. Washington's tackling and defensive strengths may be tested. [24:52–27:14] Rams at Eagles Philadelphia is favored by 3.5. Concerns emerge around the Eagles' lack of offensive explosiveness. Chris and Mario highlight locker-room trash talk following last week's win. [27:15–29:01] Jets at Buccaneers Tampa Bay rides momentum as Baker Mayfield thrives. Emeka Egbuka is underused while Mike Evans remains the focal point. Tough matchup for a shaky Jets team. [29:02–31:24] Steelers at Patriots New England is a slight home underdog. Pittsburgh's offense is underwhelming, and Jalen Warren has yet to prove himself as Najee's replacement. [31:25–33:54] Broncos at Chargers The Chargers are 3-point favorites. Justin Herbert looks sharp, but Harbaugh's identity seems undefined. The Broncos remain average with Bo Nix at the helm. [33:55–36:20] Saints at Seahawks Seattle's strong run game, led by Kenneth Walker, is highlighted. The Saints can't find consistency, and Geno Smith's performance fluctuates. [36:21–38:13] Cardinals at 49ers Brock Purdy might return, but rushing him could cost San Francisco. Mac Jones may continue to hold the fort. Arizona is competitive defensively. [38:14–40:22] Cowboys at Bears The Bears are slight home underdogs. Caleb Williams flashes talent, while the Cowboys' defense draws criticism. Chicago needs to limit big plays to stay competitive. [40:23–42:17] Chiefs at Giants Kansas City looks to avoid an 0-3 start. Social media jabs and postgame trash talk are noted. Chris and Mario call out KC's overconfidence after recent losses. [42:18–45:02] Monday: Lions at Ravens The marquee game of the week. Baltimore is favored by 5. Chris and Mario preview key matchups, including Detroit's defensive front vs. Lamar Jackson and a fired-up Ravens run game.  
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1 month ago
1 hour 4 minutes 47 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 255: Picks and Predictions
Open - 00:00:00 Commanders @ Packers – 00:06:51 Chris and Mario discuss Washington's Week 1 effort and Green Bay's strong defensive play. They express concern about the Packers' passing attack, Watson's injuries, and rookie WR Matthew Golden's development, while noting Rashan Gary's impact. Jets @ Bills – 00:10:10 Conversation highlights Justin Fields' surprising competence for New York and their clock-control ground game. They praise Josh Allen's 394-yard, 4-TD performance and Keon Coleman's emergence as WR1, calling Buffalo the AFC favorite. Bears @ Lions – 00:14:24 Breakdown of Caleb Williams' overly cautious play and Chicago's offensive struggles. They critique Ben Johnson's scheme, question Swift as a lead back, and slam the use of DJ Moore as a rusher. Ravens vs. Browns – 00:19:58 Mario calls this a “get right” spot for Baltimore after Week 1's loss. Chris recaps Cleveland's unlucky finish, Joe Flacco's mixed outing, and defensive positives, while noting concerns over QB future and rookie RB Judkins' fit. Jaguars @ Bengals – 00:31:04 The hosts refuse to overreact to Cincinnati's early stumble but remain skeptical of Trevor Lawrence's progress, comparing him to Trent Green rather than a top-tier QB. Rams @ Titans – 00:33:29 They praise the Rams' preparedness and Cam Ward's ability to improve despite rough numbers, while noting Tennessee's limited upside without major changes. Patriots @ Dolphins – 00:35:15 Chris and Mario are shocked Miami is only favored by 1.5. They blast Tua's poor play, mention Tyreek Hill's off-field issues, and discuss Mike McDaniel being the odds-on favorite for first coach fired. 49ers @ Saints – 00:39:02 Discussion centers on Brock Purdy's injury, Christian McCaffrey's heavy usage, and Mac Jones' opportunity to elevate his value in Kyle Shanahan's system. Giants @ Cowboys – 00:40:37 They critique Russell Wilson's performance, suggest benching him for Jameis Winston, and expect Dallas' defense to dominate. Steelers vs. Seahawks – 00:43:50 Mario praises Pittsburgh's playmakers, Chris notes the weak run game, and they agree Seattle presents a tougher test than the Jets. Panthers @ Cardinals – 00:46:16 Talk of Arizona's surprisingly solid defense, Marvin Harrison Jr.'s TD, and Kyler Murray's new game-manager style. Broncos @ Colts – 00:48:28 They celebrate Daniel “Indiana” Jones' debut, Tyler Warren's breakout, and predict a Colts win despite Denver's defensive talent.  
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1 month ago
1 hour 4 minutes 47 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 254: Picks and Predictions
🎙️ Opening & NBA News [00:00:11] Chris and Mario kick off with reflections on summer's quick end. They pivot to breaking NBA news: allegations of salary cap circumvention involving Kawhi Leonard and the Clippers, comparing it to past Joe Smith/T'Wolves sanctions. 🏈 NFL Kickoff, Awards & Rankings [00:04:12] Excitement builds for the NFL's return. They highlight new MVP/award patches, Saquon Barkley's top NFL100 ranking, and debate Jalen Hurts, Mahomes, and legacy vs. performance in player lists. 🏈 NFL Week 1 Games (Oddsmakers' Lines) Cowboys at Eagles – PHI -8 [00:04:55] Line reactions, Parsons trade, and Eagles' offensive mindset. Chiefs vs Chargers (Brazil) – LAC +3 [00:11:22] Chargers' improvements, KC depth issues, coaching resilience. Cardinals at Saints – NO +6.5 [00:15:14] Rookie QB talk (Shug vs Sanders), comparisons to Drew Brees. Panthers at Jaguars – JAX -3.5 [00:19:22] Bryce Young scrutiny, Trevor Lawrence fit under Liam Cohen. Bengals at Browns – CLE +5 [00:21:03] Bengals' big contracts, Browns' roster/legal turmoil, Flacco concerns. Raiders at Patriots – NE -2.5 [00:24:49] Patriots' new era under Vrabel, Diggs' impact, Raiders' lack of direction. Dolphins at Colts – IND +1 [00:28:59] Miami dysfunction, Indy offensive questions. Giants at Commanders – WAS -6 [00:29:57] Washington's expectations, Giants' transition phase. Steelers at Jets – NYJ +2.5 [00:31:49] QB questions, Rodgers-Metcalf dynamic, Steelers' defensive edge. Buccaneers at Falcons – ATL +2 [00:34:19] Tampa stability vs. Atlanta's unmet offensive hype. 49ers at Seahawks – SEA +2.5 [00:35:52] QB uncertainty, Darnold's role, Niners' physical identity. Titans at Broncos – DEN -8.5 [00:36:53] Cam Ward debut, Denver expectations. Lions at Packers – GB -2 [00:37:45] Lambeau history, Parsons' impact, OC Morton's debut. Texans at Rams – LAR -3 [00:40:05] Stafford-led Rams' upswing vs. Houston development. Ravens at Bills (SNF) – BUF +1 [00:40:55] Hard Knocks impressions, Josh Allen spotlight, evenly matched clash. Vikings at Bears (MNF) – CHI +1.5 [00:43:26] McCarthy's debut intrigue, Bears' OL rebuild, DJ Moore's production. 🏆 Closing Futures Talk [00:47:58] Chris and Mario close by debating NFC/AFC title odds and long-shot Super Bowl possibilities via oddsmakers.
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2 months ago
51 minutes 3 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 253: AFC Team-By-Team Preview
[00:13–03:13] NFL Training Camp Buzz & Top 100 Reactions Chris and Mario open the show talking about NFL training camp highlights. They react to the NFL Top 100 list, noting Lions Sam LaPorta and Kirby Joseph placing #94 and #71, and Eagles rookie Cooper DeJean appearing surprisingly high at #60. [03:14–05:36] Eagles Draft Praise & NFC Recap Setup They praise Eagles GM Howie Roseman for landing two Top 60 rookies. The hosts wrap up NFC talk and transition to previewing the AFC, starting with the Buffalo Bills. [05:37–08:13] Buffalo Bills Offseason Moves The Bills sign Josh Allen to a $330M extension and add Joey Bosa, Elijah Moore, and Josh Palmer. They draft Max Harrison and Dion Walker to bolster the defense. Oddsmakers set their win total at 11.5. [08:14–10:43] Miami Dolphins Changes & Locker Room Dynamics The Dolphins sign Zach Wilson, Alexander Mattison, and trade for Minkah Fitzpatrick. The team also adds Darren Waller. With Mike McDaniel's leadership under scrutiny, their win total is set at 8.5. [10:44–13:03] Patriots Roster Revamp New England signs Stefon Diggs, Harold Landry, and Milton Williams. They draft Will Campbell and TreVeyon Henderson. Oddsmakers set their line at 8.5 wins, which the hosts find optimistic. [13:04–15:46] Jets Sign Fields & Pay Garrett Wilson The Jets acquire Justin Fields and extend Garrett Wilson and Sauce Gardner. They draft Armand Membou and Mason Taylor. Concerns around Fields' injury and decision-making surface. No win total listed. [15:47–18:02] Ravens Stay Strong with Smart Moves Baltimore extends Derrick Henry and signs DeAndre Hopkins and Jaire Alexander. They draft Malaki Starks and Mike Green. With a strong roster, the over/under is 11.5. [18:03–20:32] Bengals Commit to Core, Stay Quiet Elsewhere Cincinnati re-signs Chase and Higgins, but makes minimal external moves. They draft Shemar Stewart. With a 9.5 win total, the hosts see potential regression. [20:33–23:43] Browns in Disarray Cleveland brings back Joe Flacco, trades for Kenny Pickett, and drafts two QBs: Dylan Gabriel and Shedeur Sanders. With Myles Garrett extended and Judkins suspended, the team's 4.5 win total seems optimistic. [23:44–27:00] Steelers Go All-In on Big Names Pittsburgh signs Aaron Rodgers, DK Metcalf, and Jalen Ramsey, but trades George Pickens. Despite splashy moves, questions linger. Their win total is 8.5. [27:01–30:01] Texans Rebuild with Mixed Results Houston adds Nick Chubb, Christian Kirk, and Jalen Pitre while trading Laremy Tunsil. Drafting two WRs from Iowa State, they're set at 9.5 wins. [30:02–32:01] Colts Add Daniel Jones & Defensive Pieces The Colts sign Jones, Travarius Ward, and Cam Bynum. They draft Tyler Warren and JT Tuimoloau. With limited star power, their line is 7.5. [32:02–34:00] Jaguars Draft Heavy, Light on Free Agency Jacksonville makes a splash by drafting Travis Hunter. Free agent moves are minimal. They're set at 7.5 wins. [34:01–36:13] Titans Draft Cam Ward, Little Else Tennessee drafts QB Cam Ward first overall, adds Van Jefferson and Kevin Zeitler. Expectations are low with a 5.5 win line. [36:14–38:02] Broncos Try to Stay Competitive Denver adds J.K. Dobbins and Dre Greenlaw and drafts Jahdae Barron and RJ Harvey. After last season's surprise, their line is 9.5. [38:03–40:00] Chiefs Stay the Course Kansas City re-signs key players like JuJu and Trey Smith. They add Josh Simmons in the draft. Their win total remains high at 11.5. [40:01–42:00] Raiders Draft Big & Bring in Geno Smith Las Vegas adds Geno Smith, signs Jamal Adams, and drafts standout Ashton Jeanty. Despite an exciting draft, their win total is 6.5. [42:01–44:00] Chargers Add Trey Lance & Boost Run Game The Chargers sign Lance, Najee Harris, and draft Omorion Hampton and Tre Harris. With a retooled offense under Harbaugh, they're set at 9.5 wins. [44:01–END] Top Free Agents & Surprise Names Still Unsigned Chris and Mario discuss notable unsigned veterans like Justin Simmons, Jedrick Wills, Amari Cooper, and Mike Hilton. They debate potential fits and reflect on surprising declines.
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3 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 24 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 252: NFC Team-By-Team Preview
[00:11–04:41] Summer Catch-Up, Quarterback & Sinners Talk Chris and Mario kick off discussing Netflix’s Quarterback series and Mario’s love for Jared Goff’s feature.  [04:42–07:11] NFC East Preview – Dallas Cowboys The Cowboys’ win total is 7.5. They review offseason moves: trading for Joe Milton, signing Miles Sanders, Javonte Williams, Paris Campbell, and adding George Pickens.  [07:12–10:23] NFC East – New York Giants QB Carousel The Giants’ win total is 5.5. They discuss Russell Wilson, Jameis Winston, and rookie Jaxson Dart battling for snaps.  [10:24–13:06] NFC East – Philadelphia Eagles Roster Depth The Eagles’ over/under is 11.5. Chris praises Saquon Barkley’s record extension and signings like Ojulari and extending Cam Juergens.  [13:07–16:27] NFC East – Washington Commanders Locker Room Issues The Commanders’ win total is 9.5. Deebo Samuel’s trade, Laremy Tunsil’s arrival, and Bobby Wagner’s return boost talent, but flag Terry McLaurin’s contract frustration as a red flag.  [16:28–19:05] NFC North – Chicago Bears’ Big Jump The Bears’ over/under is 8.5. They review Ben Johnson’s coaching hire, offensive line upgrades (Jonah Jackson, Joe Thuney), and rookie Luther Burden.  [19:06–21:33] NFC North – Detroit Lions’ Steady Rise The Lions’ win total sits at 10.5. Detroit adds CB D.J. Reed and drafts Tyleik Williams and Tate Ratledge. Both are bullish, praising GM Brad Holmes for consistent roster-building. [21:34–24:12] NFC North – Green Bay Packers Offseason Moves The Packers’ line is 9.5. Key moves include drafting WR Matthew Golden.  [24:13–26:39] NFC North – Minnesota Vikings Transitioning At 8.5 wins, Minnesota adds Jonathan Allen, and rookie Donovan Jackson. Both see them hovering near .500 as J.J. McCarthy develops. [26:40–29:05] NFC South – Atlanta Falcons & Carolina Panthers Falcons sit at 7.5, adding edge rushers Jalon Walker and James Pierce. Both pick the under. Carolina’s 6.5 total sparks optimism, with rookie WR Tet McMillan and JC Horn’s extension boosting hopes for incremental progress. [29:06–32:12] NFC South – New Orleans Saints & Tampa Bay Buccaneers The Saints’ 5.5 total reflects a rebuild with rookie QB Tyler Shough replacing retired Derek Carr. Tampa’s 9.5 line leads to optimism—Chris Godwin returns, Emeka Egbuka joins the WR corps, and Tez Johnson’s speed adds versatility. [32:13–35:46] NFC West – Arizona Cardinals & LA Rams Arizona’s 8.5 total hinges on QB Kyler Murray, while rookies Walter Nolan and Will Johnson strengthen defense. LA adds Davante Adams to pair with Stafford but hovers near 9 wins. [35:47–38:15] NFC West – San Francisco 49ers & Seattle Seahawks The 49ers’ 10.5 line is questioned despite Bryce Huff’s arrival. The Seahawks’ 8.5 win total features Sam Darnold starting with rookie Jalen Milroe waiting in the wings. [38:16–End] Closing Thoughts & AFC Preview Tease Chris and Mario agree the NFC has many mid-tier teams and will return soon to break down AFC contenders.
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3 months ago
49 minutes 22 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 251: The 2025 NFL Draft
🎙️ Opening & NBA Tangent 00:00 – 01:39 Chris and Mario kick things off with a brief detour into the NBA, celebrating Tobias Harris' playoff performance for Detroit and lamenting his missed potential in Philadelphia. 🦅 Eagles' Super Bowl & Draft Excellence 01:40 – 03:02 Chris celebrates the Eagles' Super Bowl win and Howie Roseman's historic draft success—four straight second-round Pro Bowlers. Mario offers Lions fans' respect and admits Philly avoided a tough matchup. 🦁 Lions Outlook & Coaching Concerns 03:03 – 06:46 Mario discusses his 28% concern about integrating a new coaching staff in Detroit. Chris compares it to Doug Pederson's post-championship coordinator shuffle in Philly. 🧩 Top Remaining NFL Free Agents 06:47 – 20:39 Chris and Mario analyze top unsigned free agents, including: Aaron Rodgers – Polarizing figure, recovering from injury; possible fit in Pittsburgh. Amari Cooper – Reliable WR, could help teams like Dallas or L.A. Keenan Allen – Decline in production, especially with the Bears. J.K. Dobbins – Productive but injury-prone; expected to sign after the draft. Justin Simmons & Julian Blackmon – Safety market limited by scheme fit and athleticism. Asante Samuel Jr. – Young but reluctant tackler. Kyzir White – 137 tackles in 2024, but still unsigned, possibly due to asking price. Za'Darius Smith – Solid contributor, potential return to Detroit. Rasul Douglas – Slowed down in coverage, possibly near retirement. 📝 NFL Draft Top 10 Preview 20:40 – 47:15 #1 Titans – Cam Ward is the heavy favorite; Tennessee likely locked in. #2 Browns – Travis Hunter expected to go here, with elite two-way potential. #3 Giants – Abdul Carter a safe pick to stabilize the defense. #4 Saints – Will Campbell likely to bolster the offensive line. #5 Jaguars – Ashton Jeanty gains momentum as a top RB choice. #6 Raiders – Arnold Membou favored, but debate between O-line and defense (Mason Graham, Jalon Walker). #7 Jets – Tyler Warren (TE) is the favorite, but value is debated vs. offensive linemen or WRs. #8 Panthers – Defensive picks considered (Mykel Williams), but need for WR help noted. #9 Saints – Jalon Walker is the top betting favorite, but concerns about his production are discussed. 🧠 Draft Analytics: Prospects Deep Dive Draft Preview Chris and Mario debate several high-profile prospects: Mason Graham – Viewed as productive but possibly overhyped. Jalon Walker – Athletic but lacks sack production; disruptive but incomplete. Mykel Williams – Physically gifted but underperforms in pass rush situations. Will Johnson – Once elite CB prospect; now questioned for lack of impact and rumors of “taking the year off.” Tyler Warren vs. Colston Loveland – Evaluating tight end upside and blocking limitations. 🔚 Closing Thoughts 47:16 – End Chris and Mario reflect on production vs. potential in draft evaluation. They wrap up with more prospect breakdowns and positional fits heading into the NFL Draft.
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6 months ago
1 hour 6 minutes 13 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 250: Super Bowl LIX
Introduction & Super Bowl Week Discussion 00:00:50 – 01:31 Chris welcomes Mario to this Super Bowl edition of the show. Mario reflects on the bittersweet nature of the big game, noting that his Lions are not playing. Super Bowl LVIII: Eagles vs. Chiefs Matchup Analysis 02:06 – 05:06 Chris highlights that the Eagles are 1-point underdogs, moving from +1.5. Discussion on how much weight should be given to Kansas City's playoff experience. Kansas City Chiefs: Keys to Victory 05:06 – 07:37 Chiefs must avoid turnovers. Patrick Mahomes needs to get the ball out quickly against an aggressive Eagles defense. Travis Kelce is expected to be a major factor, given the Eagles' struggles covering tight ends. Philadelphia Eagles: Keys to Victory 07:37 – 11:06 The Eagles must establish the run early, particularly with Saquon Barkley. Devonta Smith is a key X-factor: In two career games against the Chiefs, he's averaged 110.5 yards per game. Defensive priority: Limit big plays from Mahomes and contain Isiah Pacheco. Super Bowl MVP Odds & Player Props 11:06 – 18:12 Patrick Mahomes (+115), Saquon Barkley (+250), Jalen Hurts (+300) are the favorites. Chris jokes about Grant Calcaterra having the worst MVP odds (+80,000), even behind a long snapper. Chris and Mario discuss fun prop bets, including the likelihood of a successful two-point conversion. Super Bowl Betting & Alternate Spreads 18:12 – 26:33 Discussion on alternate lines and betting trends: Chiefs -20.5 is at +1150, while Chiefs +17.5 is at -3000. Live betting strategies and exotic Super Bowl props. Super Bowl Off-Field Storylines 26:33 – 36:28 Jason Kelce's attire: Will he wear Eagles gear, Chiefs gear, or both? Eagles-only attire is the betting favorite (-400). Kendrick Lamar's halftime performance: Prop bets include his first song choice, surprise guests, and even what shoes he will wear. Will Taylor Swift appear? (+1500) Chris and Mario discuss her history with Kendrick Lamar. Final Thoughts & Wrap-Up 36:28 – End Chris and Mario reflect on Super Bowl anticipation and the end of the NFL season. They joke about the overwhelming amount of betting options for the game.
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9 months ago
57 minutes 9 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 249: Fathers and Sons
Introduction 00:00:00 – 00:01:04 Chris introduces the show, jokingly referring to Mario as the Lions' new offensive coordinator. They discuss John Morton's hiring as Detroit's new offensive coordinator after Ben Johnson's departure. Detroit Lions Coaching Changes 00:01:04 – 00:07:09 Mario expresses skepticism about John Morton, saying he feels underwhelmed but not disappointed. John Gruden praised Morton's hiring, calling it a “home run.” Discussion on Kelvin Sheppard being promoted to defensive coordinator. Breakdown of Lions' position coach departures, including: Antwaan Randle El (WR coach) leaving for the Bears as assistant head coach. Terrell Williams leaving for the Patriots as DC. J.T. Barrett leaving to be the QB coach in Chicago. Pro Bowl Discussion 00:07:36 – 00:08:41 Chris and Mario discuss the lack of interest in the Pro Bowl. Chris admits he doesn't even bother recording it despite having unlimited DVR space. Mario jokes that he keeps forgetting it even exists. Super Bowl LVIII: Eagles vs. Chiefs Preview 00:08:41 – 00:11:10 Chris expresses boredom with the matchup, calling it a replay of two years ago. Mario acknowledges Chiefs' fatigue but appreciates witnessing greatness. Discussion on how Jalen Hurts leading the Eagles to multiple Super Bowls could change his legacy. Saquon Barkley's Career & Historical Context 00:11:10 – 00:17:24 Chris and Mario debate Saquon Barkley's all-time ranking as a running back. Barkley currently ranks 65th in career rushing yards with 7,216 yards. Discussion on whether Barkley could eventually surpass Jim Brown's 12,312 yards. Derrick Henry's career yardage is analyzed, as he currently ranks 19th all-time with 11,423 yards. Chris estimates Henry could finish top five all-time if he averages 1,400 yards for three more seasons. NFL Free Agency & Adrian Peterson's Career Journey 00:17:24 – 00:24:26 Mario fails to recall all seven teams Adrian Peterson played for. Chris reveals Peterson's forgotten 2020 season with the Detroit Lions. Breakdown of Peterson's financial troubles, including a $5.2 million loan for a birthday party. Peterson's current net worth is estimated at just $1 million despite earning $103 million in his career. NFL Families & Best Father-Son Duos 00:24:26 – 00:32:00 Debate on whether NFL players' sons outperform NBA players' sons in professional careers. Best NFL father-son duos, including: Peyton and Archie Manning. Clay and Clay Matthews Jr. Christian and Ed McCaffrey. Chris mistakenly thinks DK Metcalf is Eric Metcalf's son before correcting it. Shiloh Sanders Lawsuit & Colorado Football 00:32:00 – 00:36:08 Chris reveals Shiloh Sanders is facing an $11.8 million assault lawsuit. Discussion on how Deion Sanders' sons have struggled with off-field issues. Shiloh is 24 years old. Kellen Moore to the New Orleans Saints 00:36:08 – 00:45:32 Kellen Moore is hired as the Saints' head coach, sparking debate over whether he's a good fit. Chris doesn't believe Moore is an offensive genius, calling him overrated. Discussion on the Saints' bleak outlook due to salary cap struggles and an aging roster. Comparison to Josh McDaniels, who failed as a head coach but kept getting chances. Super Bowl Betting & Final Thoughts 00:45:32 – End Chris mentions the Eagles are 1.5-point underdogs to the Chiefss. Discussion on how Super Bowl week will bring more in-depth analysis next episode.
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9 months ago
1 hour 15 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 248: Aaron Glenn, Ben Johnson & Conference Championship Games
Introduction 00:00:44 – 00:02:12 Chris and Mario talk about the different emotional states they are in as football fans: Mario's Detroit Lions suffered a disappointing playoff loss to the Washington Commanders. Chris' Philadelphia Eagles will now face the Commanders in the NFC Championship Game. NFL Coaching Carousel: Ben Johnson to the Bears 00:02:12 – 00:10:09 Discussion about Ben Johnson becoming the new head coach of the Chicago Bears. Caleb Williams is thrilled about the hire, but questions remain: Can Ben Johnson effectively lead a team, or is he just a great offensive coordinator? Will he develop Caleb Williams properly, or will the Bears' weak offensive line ruin their chances? Mario and Chris debate priorities for Chicago: Should they draft a running back like Ashton Jeanty, or focus on offensive line improvements first? Chris argues offensive linemen in this draft class are weak, making free agency a more viable option. They compare Johnson's hire to past offensive-minded coaches like Sean McVay and Kevin O'Connell. Aaron Glenn to the New York Jets 00:10:41 – 00:14:38 Mario expresses more confidence in Aaron Glenn as a head coach than in Johnson. Glenn is a leader of men, while Johnson's personality doesn't scream "head coach". They discuss whether Glenn will call defensive plays or take on a CEO-style coaching role. Comparisons to Dan Campbell and Nick Sirianni as coaches who focus on leadership rather than play-calling. Tom Brady as a Broadcaster 00:18:05 – 00:24:48 Chris and Mario discuss Tom Brady's performance as an NFL commentator. Brady's delivery sounds robotic, and he struggles to explain plays in a way fans can understand. Compared to Tony Romo, Brady lacks personality and excitement. Greg Olsen was a better analyst, and Brady only got the job because of his legacy. Discussion about other quarterbacks who could be great future broadcasters, including Kirk Cousins, Baker Mayfield, and Jayden Daniels. NFL MVP Discussion: Lamar Jackson vs. Josh Allen 00:30:34 – 00:32:53 Lamar Jackson is the heavy favorite (-225 odds) over Josh Allen (+180 odds). Mario and Chris discuss how Jackson continues to put up MVP-caliber seasons every other year. Allen played his best football this year, finally making smart decisions instead of relying on hero-ball. If Jackson wasn't in the league, Allen would be a clear MVP. Detroit Lions Coaching Departures & Replacements 00:36:46 – 00:40:54 Lions lose both offensive (Ben Johnson) and defensive (Aaron Glenn) coordinators. Mario expresses concern over who will take over these key roles. Chris asks why Mark Brunell (QB coach) isn't being considered for offensive coordinator. Speculation on Steve Wilks becoming the next defensive coordinator. NFL Conference Championship Game Previews Chris and Mario break down both the AFC and NFC Championship matchups, discussing team strengths, weaknesses, and key players. 1. Washington Commanders vs. Philadelphia Eagles 00:41:07 – 00:45:44 Eagles are favored by 6 points. The Commanders are playing fearlessly, similar to the 2021 Bengals who made an unexpected Super Bowl run. Jayden Daniels is incredibly calm and composed, even in high-pressure moments. Philadelphia is deeper and more experienced, making them a difficult opponent at home. 2. Buffalo Bills vs. Kansas City Chiefs 00:47:26 – 00:51:39 Chiefs are favored by 1.5 points. The Bills already beat the Chiefs once this season, but Kansas City rarely loses twice to the same team. Josh Allen has matured into a complete quarterback, making fewer reckless plays. James Cook has emerged as an elite running back, adding balance to Buffalo's offense. Mahomes and the Chiefs are always a threat, given their playoff experience and winning culture. NFL Pro Bowl: How to Improve It 00:52:49 – 00:54:19 Chris proposes turning the Pro Bowl into an NFL vs. College All-Star Game. College stars would face the All-Pro team, creating high stakes and intense competition. Mario loves the idea, but Chris points out no college player would risk injury before the draft. Another idea: The two worst NFL teams play for the right to stay in the league (Relegation Game).
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9 months ago
55 minutes 36 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 247: Unapologetically Jerry Jones
Introduction 00:00:33 – 00:02:12 Hosts Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines open the show with casual banter about how fast the week has gone. Mario mistakenly thought it was Friday instead of Wednesday and tells a humorous story about his awkward interaction with a security guard. Coaching Carousel & Mike Vrabel to Patriots 00:02:12 – 00:06:30 Discussion on the New England Patriots hiring Mike Vrabel as head coach. Both hosts agree it was an expected move, comparing it to an obvious draft pick. They discuss the Rooney Rule and how it seemed clear that Byron Leftwich and Pep Hamilton were interviewed as formalities before hiring Vrabel. Chris mentions that players like Taylor Decker praised Vrabel as a strong leader. Mario highlights that while Vrabel may not be a strategic genius, his leadership skills could work in New England. NBA Tangent: Victor Wembanyama and Basketball's Direction 00:06:30 – 00:12:50 Discussion shifts to Victor Wembanyama and his impact on basketball. Chris argues that while Wembanyama is incredibly talented, his three-point shooting habits reflect the modern NBA's flaws. Mario agrees that basketball has moved away from post-dominance, comparing Wembanyama to Shaquille O'Neal and discussing how centers should be more dominant in the paint. Debate about expanding the court and moving the three-point line back to improve the game. Chris critiques the current state of basketball, saying it lacks creativity and relies too much on isolation play. NFL Coaching Vacancies & Potential Hires 00:13:00 – 00:24:30 Breakdown of open head coaching jobs, including the Dallas Cowboys, Chicago Bears, New York Jets, Las Vegas Raiders, Jacksonville Jaguars, and New Orleans Saints. Speculation on Ben Johnson likely going to the Raiders. Discussion on whether Mike McCarthy is a good fit for the Bears. Debate about Deion Sanders being linked to the Cowboys: Mario finds it shocking but not impossible given Jerry Jones' bold personality. Chris believes Sanders' lack of focus on the lines could hurt him at the NFL level. Discussion on whether the Jets are the worst coaching job in football this year. NFL Divisional Round Matchups 1. Houston Texans vs. Kansas City Chiefs 00:37:05 – 00:41:13 Chiefs favored by 8 points. Discussion of Patrick Mahomes' ability to turn it on in the playoffs. Debate on whether the Texans' win last week was due to their success or the Chargers' implosion. Chris brings up Justin Herbert's struggles, noting that he threw more interceptions in one game (4) than he had all of 2024. 2. Washington Commanders vs. Detroit Lions 00:43:01 – 00:46:05 Lions favored by 9 points. Mario, as a Lions fan, acknowledges Washington's talent but highlights their struggles against the run. Discussion about Jared Goff leading all remaining QBs in playoff passing yards. Chris jokes about betting the Commanders' money line. 3. Los Angeles Rams vs. Philadelphia Eagles 00:46:22 – 00:49:39 Eagles favored by 6 points. Debate over Jalen Hurts needing to stay on script and not force plays. Discussion on Lane Johnson being snubbed in the All-Pro voting and how he is using it as motivation. Chris provides a statistical comparison of Lane Johnson vs. Penei Sewell, highlighting Johnson's dominance. 4. Baltimore Ravens vs. Buffalo Bills 00:49:50 – 00:52:45 Bills are 1-point underdogs at home. Chris and Mario see this game as the best matchup of the weekend. Debate over whether this game decides the MVP race between Josh Allen and Lamar Jackson. Discussion of how Lamar Jackson was undervalued in free agency and how teams missed an opportunity to acquire a now three-time MVP. Closing Thoughts 00:52:45 – End Chris and Mario reflect on how NFL teams often overlook talent. They agree that Lamar Jackson deserves more recognition for his career achievements. Final thoughts on how the Divisional Round games could shape the Super Bowl picture.
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9 months ago
59 minutes 12 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 245: That's So Bubby
Introduction 00:00:59–00:02:30: Hosts Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines open the first episode of the new year with lighthearted banter about New Year's Day and the unique challenges of starting 2025. College Football Playoff Commentary 00:02:30–00:06:42: Discussion about the broken playoff system, with complaints about conference winners receiving automatic bids and top seeds often being underdogs. Reflections on the Texas-Arizona State game, including Quinn Ewers' rumored $6 million NIL offer and standout performances by Arizona State players. Running Backs Missing Records 00:07:46–00:09:21: Saquon Barkley falls 100 yards short of Eric Dickerson's single-season rushing record as the Eagles decide to rest their starters. Reflections on running back Ashton Jeanty's near-break of Barry Sanders' single-season record, falling 27 yards short. Pop Culture and Documentaries 00:09:47–00:14:39: Chris recommends Netflix's Kings of Tupelo, a wild documentary involving Elvis impersonation, organ trafficking, and a presidential assassination attempt. Other documentary mentions include Tickled, a bizarre tale about competitive endurance tickling. NFL Week 18 Game-by-Game Discussion Cleveland Browns vs. Baltimore Ravens (00:14:52–00:17:12): Analysis of the Ravens' need to stay sharp and their chances of clinching the AFC North title against a Browns team experimenting with backup quarterbacks. Cincinnati Bengals vs. Pittsburgh Steelers (00:17:54–00:19:57): The Bengals aim to secure a playoff spot while battling Pittsburgh, with both teams navigating playoff implications. New England Patriots vs. Buffalo Bills (00:20:12–00:21:21): Buffalo locks up the #2 seed, with the Patriots playing out the string and debating their draft position. Atlanta Falcons vs. Carolina Panthers (00:28:00–00:29:19): Falcons aim to clinch the NFC South title with a win, while Carolina's struggles continue. Green Bay Packers vs. Chicago Bears (00:30:28–00:30:45): Packers rest starters, and the Bears have little to play for beyond pride. Houston Texans vs. Tennessee Titans (00:31:00–00:32:26): Texans plan to play their starters despite clinching a playoff spot, while the Titans face an uncertain offseason. Indianapolis Colts vs. Jacksonville Jaguars (00:32:37–00:34:15): Colts' solid play contrasts with the Jaguars' tumultuous season, with Indianapolis seen as a favorite. Philadelphia Eagles vs. New York Giants (00:34:15–00:36:11): Eagles' backups face a Giants team looking to make a statement. Dallas Cowboys vs. Washington Commanders (00:36:42–00:37:47): Commanders seek to prove their worth, facing a disorganized Cowboys team. Denver Broncos vs. Kansas City Chiefs (00:37:47–00:38:48): Chiefs rest starters, while the Broncos aim to secure a playoff berth. Miami Dolphins vs. New York Jets (00:38:48–00:40:49): Dolphins are slight favorites, with the Jets out of playoff contention and Aaron Rodgers reflecting on his tumultuous time in New York. Las Vegas Raiders vs. Los Angeles Chargers (00:42:02–00:44:18): Chargers look to maintain momentum, while the Raiders play out their season. San Francisco 49ers vs. Arizona Cardinals (00:44:39–00:47:54): Injuries plague the 49ers, giving the Cardinals an edge in this matchup. Seattle Seahawks vs. Los Angeles Rams (00:47:54–00:48:22): Both teams have little at stake, leading to an unremarkable game. Minnesota Vikings vs. Detroit Lions (00:48:22–00:52:16): Lions' offensive dominance sets them apart as playoff contenders, but concerns about their defense remain. Coaching and Team Dynamics 00:50:17–00:52:13: Discussion on potential coaching departures, including Ben Johnson from the Lions and Aaron Glenn, highlighting the challenges of replacing high-caliber coordinators. Closing Thoughts 00:52:16–End: The hosts conclude with reflections on the Lions' playoff potential and the broader state of the NFL heading into the postseason.
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10 months ago
55 minutes 55 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 244: Checkers, Not Chess
Introduction 0:00:45 - 0:43:31 Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines kick off the show with holiday greetings and set the stage for Week 17 discussions, emphasizing playoff scenarios and team struggles, such as concussion protocols and late-season roster changes. NFL Week 17 Game-by-Game Analysis 1. Seattle Seahawks @ Chicago Bears 2:29 - 4:38 Discussion on the Seahawks' favored position (-4) against a struggling Bears team. Criticism focuses on the Bears' coaching and their inability to utilize their roster effectively. 2. Los Angeles Chargers @ New England Patriots 5:29 - 6:44 Chargers are favored (-4.5) as they push for playoff positioning in the AFC. The Patriots, with the second-draft pick, are critiqued for their lack of competitiveness. The future of top QB prospects and draft strategies is debated. 3. Denver Broncos @ Cincinnati Bengals 7:23 - 8:31 Bengals (-3) face a surging Broncos team. Mario supports Cincinnati, citing their star players needing to step up, while Chris questions their motivation, given Denver's playoff stakes. 4. Arizona Cardinals @ Los Angeles Rams 10:24 - 12:51 Rams (-6.5) are praised for their resilience, particularly Puka Nacua's performance. Playoff implications hinge on multiple scenarios, including a Rams win and a Seahawks loss. 5. Carolina Panthers @ Tampa Bay Buccaneers 13:12 - 15:09 With Tampa Bay favored (-7.5), weather conditions in Tampa (thunderstorms) are discussed. Bryce Young's struggles in adverse weather are highlighted. 6. Dallas Cowboys @ Philadelphia Eagles 15:09 - 18:35 Eagles (-7) are expected to dominate with the Cowboys missing key players like CeeDee Lamb. The conversation shifts to the challenges of backup quarterbacks fitting into different offensive systems. 7. Indianapolis Colts @ New York Giants 19:25 - 20:45 Colts (-7.5) take on a struggling Giants team. Both hosts criticize the Giants' inability to compete and highlight Jonathan Taylor's costly mistakes in prior games. 8. New Orleans Saints @ Las Vegas Raiders 25:36 - 26:29 Saints (+1) host the Raiders in a game dismissed as largely inconsequential. Discussion includes critiques of Spencer Rattler's quarterbacking for the Saints. 9. New York Jets @ Buffalo Bills 26:59 - 27:31 Bills (-9.5) aim to keep playoff momentum as Josh Allen chases MVP recognition. Both hosts note the team's support for Allen. 10. Green Bay Packers @ Minnesota Vikings 31:30 - 38:03 Vikings (+1) host the Packers in a pivotal NFC North clash. Green Bay's resurgence is noted, while the Vikings are criticized for their inconsistency. 11. Atlanta Falcons @ Washington Commanders 39:11 - 40:13 Commanders (-4) are favored as they play for their playoff hopes. The Falcons' inconsistency and Michael Penix Jr.'s development are discussed. 12. Detroit Lions @ San Francisco 49ers (Monday Night Football) 40:28 - 41:21 Lions (-3.5) face a 49ers team with limited offensive options. Detroit's playoff-clinching scenarios are reviewed. Other Topics Pop Culture and College Sports 38:44 - End They discuss the college bowl games and surprising coaching hires, including Michael Vick and DeSean Jackson taking roles at HBCUs.
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10 months ago
42 minutes 10 seconds

The Underdog NFL Show
Episode 243: World's Toughest
Introduction 00:00:00–00:02:21 Hosts Chris Horwedel and Mario Hines introduce the holiday edition of the podcast, reflecting on the holiday season and their plans. Brief comedic exchange about TV shows like Special Forces: World's Toughest featuring Cam Newton and Golden Tate. Pop Culture Commentary 00:02:21–00:04:35 Discussion about gambling props on pre-taped entertainment like Game of Thrones and its oddities. Transition into analyzing media quirks and popular culture's influence. NFL Week 16 Overview 00:04:35–00:06:27 Commentary on the Detroit Lions' heartbreaking loss and their season challenges, including injuries to key players like David Montgomery, Carlton Davis, and Alim McNeill. Discussion of Josh Allen's standout season and the Bills' recent form. Game-by-Game Analysis 1. Denver Broncos vs. Los Angeles Chargers 00:15:49 Chargers favored by three points. Analysis of how the Broncos' previous win and their defensive strengths might match up with the Chargers' offense. 2. Houston Texans vs. Kansas City Chiefs 00:16:20 Chiefs favored by 3.5 points. Patrick Mahomes' recent injury and his ability to play through it are highlighted. 3. Pittsburgh Steelers vs. Baltimore Ravens 00:19:04 Ravens favored by 6.5 points. Commentary on Lamar Jackson's five-touchdown performance and how the Steelers might respond defensively. 4. Arizona Cardinals vs. Carolina Panthers 00:21:03 Cardinals favored by 4.5 points. Discussion about the Panthers' inconsistencies and the Cardinals' slim playoff chances. 5. Cleveland Browns vs. Cincinnati Bengals 00:22:39 Bengals favored by 8.5 points. Analysis of the Browns' struggles, including quarterback changes, and the Bengals' defensive improvements. 6. Detroit Lions vs. Chicago Bears 00:24:37 Lions favored by 6.5 points. Commentary on Caleb Williams' body language and leadership on the Bears, with a reflection on team dynamics. 7. Los Angeles Rams vs. New York Jets 00:28:26 Jets as three-point underdogs. Analysis of the Jets' recent close games and their ability to challenge the Rams. 8. New York Giants vs. Atlanta Falcons 00:29:05 Falcons favored by 8.5 points. Discussion of rookie Michael Penix Jr.'s debut and the Giants' lackluster performance. 9. Minnesota Vikings vs. Seattle Seahawks 00:35:26 Vikings favored by 2.5 points. Insight into Geno Smith's injury status and the Seahawks' ability to upset the Vikings. 10. New England Patriots vs. Buffalo Bills 00:36:19 Bills favored by 14 points. Commentary on the stark contrast between the Bills' dominance and the Patriots' struggles. 11. San Francisco 49ers vs. Miami Dolphins 00:37:11 Dolphins favored by one point. Analysis of the injury-plagued 49ers and the Dolphins' opportunity to capitalize. 12. Tampa Bay Buccaneers vs. Dallas Cowboys 00:37:18 Cowboys favored by four points. Brief critique of the Cowboys' form and a discussion of Tampa Bay's potential. 13. New Orleans Saints vs. Green Bay Packers 00:37:46 Packers favored by 14 points. Reflection on both teams' ability to put points on the board despite recent struggles. Additional NFL Topics 00:07:00–00:14:00 Josh Allen as the MVP frontrunner with Lamar Jackson and Saquon Barkley as distant competitors. Debate about Coach of the Year, with Kevin O'Connell as the favorite and Nick Sirianni not receiving enough recognition despite the Eagles' success. 00:14:28 Defensive Rookie of the Year candidates: Jared Verse and others, with acknowledgment of defensive metrics and evolving evaluation standards. Closing Remarks 00:38:21 Hosts reflect on their discussions and wish listeners happy holidays.
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The Underdog NFL Show
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