Accidentally forgot to upload this back when it came out on YouTube... Thanks for listening! Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends!   Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE... Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb... Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy  

0:00 - Intro 7:00 - What We've Been Listening To 8:38 - Itzy 'Guess Who' Review 23:22 - NCT Dream 'Hot Sauce' Review 43:18 - Oh My Girl 'Dear Oh My Girl' Review 56:52 - WJSN The Black 'My Attitude' Review 1:04:10 - Outro In this episode, we review ITZY, NCT Dream, Oh My Girl, and WJSN The Black's new releases! Information on KPSN Podcast Fest 2021 can be found at Kpop Social Nights twitter (https://twitter.com/kpopsocialnight) and tickets and information for the event can be found here (https://www.indiegogo.com/projects/kpsn-podcast-fest-2021-early-access#/)   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

0:00​ - Intro 2:36​ - What We've Been Listening To4:58​ - IU "Lilac" Album Review 28:28​ - Sejeong "I'm" Album Review 40:02​ - WJSN "Unnatural" Album Review 55:18​ - Wendy "Like Water" Album Review 1:10:48​ - Outro #IU​ #WJSN​ #Wendy​ In this episode we review IU, Sejeong, WJSN, and Wendy's newest releases! Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends!   Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d...​ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE...​ Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb...​ Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/​ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakJoin our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz​ Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate​ Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha​ Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee​ Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

In this episode we discuss the increasing hate crimes and racism against AAPI people. We suggest you help by supporting local businesses run by AAPI and reporting any crimes you witness to https://www.standagainsthatred.org/re...​. There are also many charities you can donate to such as "Stop AAPI Hate" and "Asian Americans Advancing Justice".   0:00​ - AAPI Racism and Hate Crimes 52:45​ - Regular Intro 54:02​ - What We've Been Listening To 58:46​ - Purple Kiss "Into Violet" Album Review 1:16:20​ - Weeekly "We Play" Album Review 1:31:45​ - Mirae "Killa" Album Review 1:51:47​ - Outro For our normal K-Pop topics, we review Purple Kiss, Weeekly, and Mirae's new albums.   #PurpleKiss​ #Weeekly​ #Mirae​   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d...​ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE...​ Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb...​ Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/​   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak​ Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz​   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate​ Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha​ Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee​ Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy​

0:00 - Intro 2:12 - What We've Been Listening To 5:36 - ONF : My Name Review 26:05 - Spotify vs Kakao M 40:10 - Brave Girls Goes Viral 1:03:28 - Outro   In this episode, we review ONF's newest mini album and discuss Spotify removing Kakao M K-Pop songs as well as Brave Girls going viral!   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends!   Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d...​ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE...​ Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb...​ Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/​   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak​ Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz​   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate​ Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha​ Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee​ Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy​              

0:00 - Intro 1:33 - What We've Been Listening To 4:00 - Chungha's "Querencia" Review 45:31 - SHINee's "Don't Call Me" Review 1:03:57 - Sunmi's "Tail" Review 1:11:20 - Outro In this episode, we review Chungha, SHINee, and Sunmi's newest releases!   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available atiTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reixStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcastPodbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakJoin our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNateJacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMechaAndrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALeeCooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

0:00 - Intro 6:26 - What We've Been Listening To 8:10 - (G)I-dle - I Burn Review 31:02 - DreamCatcher - Dystopia: Road to Utopia 50:24 - Aespa - Forever 1:07:35 - Outro In this episode, we review (G)I-dle, DreamCatcher, and Aespa's new releases! Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d...​ Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE...​ Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb...​ Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/​ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak​ Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz​ Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate​ Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha​ Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee​ Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy​

0:00 - Intro 3:02 - What We've Been Listening To 5:50 - Truly Daebak and Fan Choice Award Winners 1:33:16 - Outro   This week we give out the 2021 Truly Daebak Awards as well as the Fan Choice Awards. Notable winners include NCT, DreamCatcher, GFriend, TXT, Treasure, Weeekly, and more!   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz   Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE... Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb... Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

Please vote in the Truly Daebak Fan Choice Awards by filling out this form! https://forms.gle/NBw8FVUz5rCBZbwH8 00:00 - Intro 02:56 - What We've Been Listening To 05:54 - Reviewing Our 2020 Predictions 15:35 - Our 2021 KPop Predictions 39:35 - 2021 Truly Daebak Award Nominees   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

The Truly Daebak Show is back! We share our thoughts on some of the best (and worst) K-Pop comebacks of the past 3 months, including aespa, BoA, GFriend, IZ*ONE, K/DA, NiziU, TAEYEON, TWICE, and Yerin Baek. TIMESTAMPS00:00 Intro 08:19 What Have We Been Listening To? 15:17 IZ*ONE - TWELVE 23:56 IZ*ONE - One-reeler 31:27 TAEYEON - #GirlsSpkOut 38:47 TWICE - Eyes Wide Open 49:03 K/DA - ALL OUT 59:49 GFriend - Walpurgis Night 01:11:54 aespa - Black Mamba 01:26:16 NiziU - Step and a step 01:35:43 BoA - Better 01:45:12 Yerin Baek - tellusaboutyourself 01:57:46 TAEYEON - What Do I Call You ***Apologies for the audio issues during some sections, it should be fixed for the next podcast*** Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

BAMcast is back with episode 2 (and only minor technical problems)! 00:00 - Intro02:16 - Helicopter by CLC09:48 - Bon Voyage by YooA23:58 - Feel Good by Fromis_936:55 - La Di Da by Everglow44:38 - Other releases (Open Mind by Wonho)53:47 - Blackpink's 'The Album' first impressions Also check out more Sam content over at oh my boba.https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdLEYz34WrHNMSzYnFpCVsg Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available atiTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reixStitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcastPodbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakJoin our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNateJacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMechaAndrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALeeCooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

In this episode we review GFriend's new EP 'Song of the Sirens" as well as continue our discussion of 2nd Gen Girl Group History! #GFriend #T-ara #Sistar #APink   00:00 - Intro 02:50 - What We've Been Listening To 08:44 - GFriend 'Song of the Sirens' EP Review 29:14 - T-ara History and Recommendations 57:25 - Sistar History and Recommendations 1:11:38 - APink History and Recommendations 1:33:08 - Outro   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends!   Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

In this episode we discuss new releases from Sunmi, Chungha, RV - Irene & Seulgi, as well as the five 2020 Rookie Girl Groups Cignature, Woo!Ah!, Red Square, Secret Number, and Weeekly  00:00 - Intro 02:11 - Pporappippam by Sunmi 08:19 - Play by Chungha 12:57 - Monster EP by Red Velvet - Irene & Seulgi 28:39 - Cignature Debut Discussion 34:55 - Woo!Ah! Debut Discussion 40:44 - Red Square Debut Discussion 48:02 - Secret Number Debut Discussion 57:10 - Weeekly Debut Discussion 1:11:19 - Comparing the 2020 Rookie GGs 1:15:26 - How You Like That by BlackPink 1:23:15 - Outro Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

In this episode, we go over 2nd gen girl group history starting with the biggest groups! #SNSD #2NE1 #WonderGirls   00:00 - Intro 5:55 - What We're Listening To 10:02 - SNSD History and Recommendations 41:00 - Kara History and Recommendations 54:17 - Wonder Girls History and Recommendations 1:12:44 - 2NE1 History and Recommendations 1:24:46 - 4Minute History and Recommendations 1:42:17 - Outro   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends!   Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE... Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb... Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

In this episode, we discuss 28 releases from the 3 months we have been on hiatus! 00:00 - Intro 5:20 - Itzy - It'z Me 10:05 - Sejeong - Plant 15:08 - ONEWE - Q (feat Hwasa) 15:56 - UZA - Banality of Evil 22:16 - (G)I-dle - I Trust 26:47 - Cignature - Assa 31:11 - Stella Jang - Stella I 34:46 - Dalsooobin - Dive 36:55 - APink - Look 42:39 - April - Da Capo 48:27 - HA:TFELT - 1719 54:37 - Chungha - Stay Tonight 57:49 - Oh My Girl - Nonstop 1:02:36 - GWSN - The Keys 1:06:52 - NCT Dream - Reload 1:09:25 - Taeyeon - Happy 1:10:35 - IU - Eight (feat. Suga) 1:12:41 - Risso - High Five 1:15:42 - NU'EST - The Nocturne 1:17:03 - Day6 - The Book of Us: Demon 1:22:48 - Bol4 - Pum 1:25:45 - BVNDIT - Carnival 1:28:42 - TXT - The Dream Chapter: Eternity 1:31:56 - NCT 127 - Neo Zone: The Final Round 1:40:41 - Ryu Sujeong - Tiger Eyes 1:45:33 - Agust D - D-2 1:51:39 - Baekhyun - Delight 1:53:26 - Twice - More & More 2:02:30 - Outro   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends!   Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/d... Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLE... Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daeb... Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz   Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

While the Truly Daebak boys are away, the Banana Allergy Monkeys will play. Welcome to the 1st (and possibly only) episode of the BAMcast. Hopefully they don't take this down. We will not be silenced!!! Want more BAM? Let us know! Also check out more Sam content over at oh my boba. https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCdLEYz34WrHNMSzYnFpCVsg Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

On this special episode of the Truly Daebak Show, we discuss COVID-19 and how we've handled quarantine for the past month, an update on our video release schedule, and a special announcement regarding the future of Truly Daebak.Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

In this episode we discuss DreamCatcher's first full album, their new Japanese single, and Weki Meki's new digital single! What We're Listening To - 2:07 Why We Aren't Reviewing BTS - 6:18 Dreamcatcher's "Dystopia: The Tree of Language" - 11:17 Dreamcatcher's "Endless Night" - 38:52 Weki Meki's "Dazzle Dazzle" - 43:49   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

We reveal the Fan Choice winners for the 2020 Truly Daebak Awards! Featuring special guests Barron & Sam (BAM). Best IOI Branch - 1:53 Best Wanna One Branch - 3:11 Best English Lyrics - 4:21 Female Bias-Wrecker of the Year - 6:42 Male Bias-Wrecker of the Year - 8:29 Female Bias of the Year - 11:22 Male Bias of the Year - 14:09 K-Pop Moment of the Year - 16:31 Best Music Cover - 18:24 Best Dance Cover - 21:31 Best Asian Artist - 23:17 3rd Annual Walwari Award - 25:33 Best MV/Visual Design - 28:28 Best Solo/Duo/Co-ed Choreography - 31:12 Best Female Group Choreography - 33:22 Best Male Group Choreography - 35:38 Best Reality Show Original Song - 37:30 Best Japanese Single - 39:30Best Collaboration or Feature - 42:01 Best Band - 44:28 Best R&B Artist - 46:15 Best Electronic/Indie Artist - 47:56 Best Hip Hop Artist - 49:12 Best Ballad/Acoustic Artist - 50:57 Best Duo/Co-Ed/Sub Unit - 52:57 Best Female Solo Artist - 54:55 Best Male Solo Artist - 56:56 Best Female Group - 58:46 Best Male Group - 1:01:01 NuGu of the Year - 1:03:02 Breakout Artist of the Year - 1:05:44 Best New Female Artist - 1:07:35 Best New Male Artist - 1:09:47 Label of the Year - 1:11:57 Producer/Songwriter of the Year - 1:14:43 Song of the Year - 1:17:31 Mini Album of the Year - 1:21:47 Album of the Year - 1:24:47 Artist of the Year - 1:27:00 Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/ Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy

In this episode, we discuss a ton of February releases! What We're Listening To - 5:34 Everglow - 7:43 GFriend - 15:23 Cignature - 23:18 Loona - 30:40 Rocket Punch - 48:25 The Boyz - 56:06 Cherry Bullet - 58:36 KARD - 1:02:38 Pentagon - 1:11:38 Sumin x Zion.T - 1:17:26   Please like, subscribe, and comment if you enjoyed the show and tell your friends! Audio versions available at iTunes: https://itunes.apple.com/vn/podcast/daebakcast/id1197891841?mt=2 Spotify: https://open.spotify.com/show/25t1SLEKiyUBiropG3reix Stitcher: https://www.stitcher.com/podcast/daebakcast Podbean: https://trulydaebak.podbean.com/   Follow us on twitter: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebak Join our Discord Server: https://discord.gg/8uyvVPz Follow us individually Nathan: https://twitter.com/TrulyDaebakNate Jacob: https://twitter.com/CrimsonMecha Andrew: https://twitter.com/NotThatALee Cooper: https://twitter.com/IrenesWaterBoy