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The Trivium China Podcast
Trivium China
46 episodes
4 days ago
Confusion around what China has officially agreed to in terms of pausing its rare earths, and other critical mineral, export controls persists – even as we are a week out from Donald Trump and Xi Jinping’s trade agreement in South Korea. Significant discrepancies remain between official statements from the White House and China’s Ministry of Commerce on the issue. Meanwhile, officials and commercial players on both sides of the Pacific are reporting significant differences around their expect...
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Confusion around what China has officially agreed to in terms of pausing its rare earths, and other critical mineral, export controls persists – even as we are a week out from Donald Trump and Xi Jinping’s trade agreement in South Korea. Significant discrepancies remain between official statements from the White House and China’s Ministry of Commerce on the issue. Meanwhile, officials and commercial players on both sides of the Pacific are reporting significant differences around their expect...
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The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 46 - What China really agreed to on rare earths + assessing US capability to end reliance on China
Confusion around what China has officially agreed to in terms of pausing its rare earths, and other critical mineral, export controls persists – even as we are a week out from Donald Trump and Xi Jinping’s trade agreement in South Korea. Significant discrepancies remain between official statements from the White House and China’s Ministry of Commerce on the issue. Meanwhile, officials and commercial players on both sides of the Pacific are reporting significant differences around their expect...
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20 hours ago
1 hour 5 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 45 - China’s perspective on the trade ceasefire + 15th Five-Year Plan breakdown
It was another monumental week on the China front. On Tuesday, the Party released its sprawling 15th Five Year Plan (FYP) Proposals – laying out the sheer scale of Xi Jinping’s policy ambitions over the next half-decadeThen on Thursday, Xi and US President Donald Trump got together in South Korea – their first meeting in six years – and agreed to a year-long ceasefire in the trade warIn this week’s Trivium China podcast, host Andrew Polk is joined by colleagues Kendra Schaefer and Dinny McMah...
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1 week ago
1 hour 11 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 44 - Xi’s make or break moment + USCBC’s Sean Stein on US-China volatility
Alright folks, this one is a banger. In this week’s Trivium China podcast, host Andrew Polk is joined first by colleagues Dinny McMahon and Joe Peissel. The three discuss: The most recent China macro dataEconomic headwinds and tailwinds as we move into 2026Their early read of the 4th Plenum – and Xi Jinping’s make or break moment with the upcoming Five-Year PlanAndrew is then joined by a very special guest – US-China Business Council President Sean Stein. They get into: How US businesses are ...
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2 weeks ago
1 hour 13 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 43 - Volatility and fragility: US and China seek path back to negotiating table
It’s been a frenetic and exhausting couple of weeks on the US-China front. After tensions heightened again last week – in the wake of China’s major expansion of export controls – the two sides continued to jockey, both privately and publicly, over the past few days. At this point, it appears that both sides are willing to continue negotiating – but the current state of the relationship is very fragile and will remain highly volatile.To discuss where things currently stand, how we got here, an...
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3 weeks ago
41 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 42 - Back on the escalatory spiral
Policymakers in Beijing wasted no time getting back into the swing of things after the week-long October holiday. On Wednesday, officials at the Ministry of Commerce unveiled sweeping updates to China’s export control regime – with new controls on rare earths and lithium batteries in particular focus. The moves also further Beijing’s drive toward long-arm jurisdiction by applying some of the controls to companies globally – not simply those producing within China’s borders.Unsurprisingly, on ...
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4 weeks ago
55 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 41 - China's economy is strong and weak at the same time
Tired of listening to the same old Trivium voices? Wishing for more variety in your podcast diet? Well, do we have a treat for you! In this week's podcast, Trivium Co-founder Andrew Polk and Dinny McMahon, Head of Markets Research, are joined by Gerard DiPippo, associate director at the RAND China Research Center and a senior researcher in RAND's D.C. office. Gerard is one of the sharpest minds out there when it comes to the global implications of what's happening in China's economy.The conve...
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1 month ago
56 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 40 - China's AI+ Initiative – why the AI race is not the Manhattan Project
Chinese policymakers are looking to diffuse AI into key industrial, commercial, and governance fields as deeply and quickly as possible. The overarching framework for their approach is captured in the AI+ plus initiative. Officials published the overarching policy architecture for AI+ in late August.And more granular AI+X plans (e.g. AI+Energy, AI+Transportation) are now starting to roll out.In this week’s podcast, host Andrew Polk is joined by colleagues Kendra Schaefer (head of tech policy ...
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1 month ago
1 hour

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 39 - China's new economic growth model
For decades, China's economy was driven by debt-fueled construction of housing and infrastructure. But once the housing market collapsed in 2021, China needed to find a new growth model.The key parts of that new model are well known: Industrial upgradingAggressive export growthTechnological innovation What's less well understood is how these parts fit together, and how the new model might transform China in the coming decade – assuming it all works. For the past 18 months, Trivium ...
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1 month ago
52 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 38 - Back in black: Beijing’s efforts to turn around falling tax revenue
China’s GDP growth has been unexpectedly strong this year. But paradoxically, tax revenue has been contracting. That’s not supposed to happen: Tax revenue typically falls during a recession, but not when the economy is expanding by more than 5% annually.In this podcast, Trivium Co-founder Andrew Polk and Dinny McMahon, Trivium’s Head of Markets Research, discuss the reasons behind China’s falling tax revenue, and why it matters – both in the short term and to Beijing’s longer-term economic as...
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1 month ago
38 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 37 - Welcome to the New World Order
Xi Jinping’s growing diplomatic clout was on full display over the past week. Things kicked off in the Chinese port city of Tianjin, where Xi hosted the annual meeting of the Shanghai Cooperation Organization.The enduring image from that meeting will be a beaming Russian President Vladimir Putin, walking hand-in-hand with Indian Prime Minister Narendra Modi – just before the two shared a hearty laugh with Xi.Over the next several days, Xi hosted a spate of key bilateral meetings with Global S...
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2 months ago
49 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 36 - China's surging stock market
China's stock markets have been on a tear over the last few months, with the benchmark CSI 300 Index – which tracks the biggest companies listed in Shanghai and Shenzhen – up 25% since its low point in February. Beijing has wanted the market to rally for quite some time – but this upsurge has come as something of a surprise. China’s economic fundamentals aren’t really conducive to a market recovery: deflation isn’t getting any better, consumer confidence is still weak, the property secto...
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2 months ago
30 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 35 - How much dependence on China is too much?
China's export controls on rare earth elements have exposed major US supply chain vulnerabilities. Now the US is scrambling to plug the holes – and China is working to maintain its leverage. The big question is: how far will each side go in these efforts?In this podcast, Trivium Co-founder Andrew Polk and Cory Combs, Head of Critical Mineral and Supply Chain Research, take stock of China's maturing export controls, the evolving US response, and where this all leads. They break down: Wha...
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2 months ago
50 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 34 - Beijing's curious plan to stimulate services consumption with more investment
The quest to understand Beijing's views on consumer spending continues. The latest: On August 13, China's finance ministry (MoF) said it would bring down borrowing costs for service sector firms by providing them with rebates on their interest payments. Curiously, authorities framed the measure – which is clearly designed to increase investment – as being an effort to boost consumption.In this podcast, Trivium Co-founder Andrew Polk and Dinny McMahon, Head of Markets Research, discuss t...
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2 months ago
40 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 33 - It's turning out to be a good year for China's economy
When the Politburo met to talk about the economy at the end of July, the general tone was one of contentment. Despite the disruption of the Trump tariffs, China's economy has outperformed expectations this year, led by truly remarkable export growth.In this podcast, Trivium Co-founder Andrew Polk and Dinny McMahon, Head of Markets Research, discuss the state of China's economy. The gents get into China's: Latest export miraclePersistently weak household consumptionEfforts to deal ...
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3 months ago
51 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 32 - Dueling AI development strategies
China and the US are both rapidly refining their approaches to global AI development, through newly released AI actions plans. In this week’s Trivium China podcast, host Andrew Polk is joined by Trivium’s Head of Tech Policy Research Kendra Schaefer to discuss what’s in the latest plans. The two discuss: The Trump administration’s pivot on chip sales to China, and the new guidance on chips laid out in the recently released US AI planThe conflicting messages on whether US export controls will ...
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3 months ago
55 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 31 - The involution will not be televised
Is Beijing finally gearing up to address chronic oversupply – and resulting price wars – in its NEV and other cleantech sectors? Trey McArver joins Trivium China Podcast host Andrew Polk this week to discuss just that question. Specifically, they examine what may be the early signs of a major policy shift – meant to break through the structural causes that keep industries from consolidating and zombie firms from exiting the market.The two discuss: The most recent meeting of the Central Commis...
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4 months ago
47 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 30 - China preps for demise of US dollar dominance
At the Lujiazui Financial forum in June, central bank (PBoC) Governor Pan Gongsheng gave a speech that we believe redefined Beijing's attitude toward RMB internationalization. Since the policy was launched in 2009, RMB internationalization has been a struggle, with Beijing's commitment to maintaining capital controls making it difficult to claw market share from the dollar. But Pan's comments suggest Beijing thinks things might be about to get easier – with global faith in the dollar starting...
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4 months ago
39 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 29 - Consumer upswings + geopolitical downswings
In this week’s Trivium China podcast, host Andrew Polk is joined by colleagues Ether Yin (Trivium’s head of policy research) and Joe Mazur (Trivium’s head of geopolitical research) – who all got together in Beijing. The three discuss a variety of topics including: China’s improving consumer dataThe current vibes in Beijing, as tourists flock inThe latest on US-China trade talksThe latest on EU-China trade talksHow China issues played into the G7 meetings in CanadaCome for the macro-econ...
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4 months ago
37 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 28 - Exiting the US-China trade death spiral
In the latest episode of the Trivium China podcast, Trivium Co-founders Andrew Polk and Trey McArver discuss this week’s phone call between Xi Jinping and Donald Trump that appears to have gotten trade talks back on track, for now. The two discuss: The developments and misperceptions from both sides that almost derailed the Geneva truce over the past three weeksWhat we know about the Xi-Trump call, and what needs to happen next to keep things on trackChina’s perspective on its rare eart...
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5 months ago
43 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Ep 27 - Weaponizing supply chains + the real-time breakdown of the Geneva détente
On this week’s Trivium China podcast, host Andrew Polk is joined by his colleagues Kendra Schaefer (Trivium’s head of tech policy) and Ether Yin (Trivium’s head of policy research) to talk through the latest tech controls from the US on China – and China’s likely reaction. The three discuss: The Trump administration’s move to restrict sales of electronic design automation (EDA) software to ChinaThe EDA landscape in China and whether Chinese tech firms can step in to fill this void in the semi...
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5 months ago
40 minutes

The Trivium China Podcast
Confusion around what China has officially agreed to in terms of pausing its rare earths, and other critical mineral, export controls persists – even as we are a week out from Donald Trump and Xi Jinping’s trade agreement in South Korea. Significant discrepancies remain between official statements from the White House and China’s Ministry of Commerce on the issue. Meanwhile, officials and commercial players on both sides of the Pacific are reporting significant differences around their expect...