We all know gossip doesn’t feel good — but why do we still do it?

In this episode, Jessie unpacks Brené Brown’s concept of common enemy intimacy — that counterfeit sense of closeness we get when we “hotwire connection” by bonding over who or what we both dislike. It feels like connection, but it’s actually built on judgment, not truth.

From cancel culture to middle school mean-girl dynamics to adult friendships built on shared negativity, Jessie explores what gossip does to our relationships, and what it reveals inside us. Using insights from Internal Family Systems (IFS) therapy and faith, she shares how gossip often comes from protective parts longing to belong — and how we can transform those impulses into real, lasting connection.

If you’ve ever caught yourself joining in on gossip, this episode offers both grace and guidance.

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