Dr. Jason Stoner built his career with equal parts vision, grit, and style—often quite literally. From a single practice in Columbus, Ohio, he’s grown to eight locations, achieved financial independence by 48, and earned a reputation as one of dentistry’s boldest innovators.

Dr. Stoner shares how reverse engineering guides both his business and his life, why teamwork is the ultimate growth strategy, and how true success comes from prioritizing patient care over production. 

He breaks down how he empowers his team, builds trust through referrals, and integrates specialists and hygienists to deliver seamless, high-quality care.

With humor, humility, and practical wisdom, Dr. Stoner reflects on the mentors, friends, and mindset shifts that shaped his path, and why doing things differently (and doing them well) is still the best formula for lasting success.

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Jason Stoner, DDS
Periodontist at Stoner Periodontic and Implant Specialists & Clinical President, Periodontology and Dental Implantology at Gen4 Dental Partners

With over 22 years in private practice, Dr. Jason Stoner is passionate about dentistry’s blend of business, leadership, and patient care. He values strong core values, academic excellence, and a thriving team culture.

Learn more about Columbus periodontist Dr. Jason Stoner

Follow Stoner Periodontic Specialists on Instagram @stonerperiodonticspecialists

The Special Lists, presented by Referral Lab, is the podcast for dentists and dental specialists.
Running a dental practice isn’t easy, and if you’re in private practice, it can sometimes feel like you’re on an island. That’s why finding your people—those who’ve been in your shoes and can share real, lived experience—changes the game.

Referral Lab was built specifically for dental specialists, helping you track, manage, and convert every referral. It’s about improving case acceptance, boosting team performance, and strengthening relationships with referring providers so your whole practice runs smarter.

This spirit of connection fuels The Special Lists podcast. Hosted by the team behind Referral Lab, we bring you wisdom from practice owners and dental professionals, sharing the wins, mistakes, and lessons that shape how they run their businesses today.

Got a question for us? Send us a message at speciallists.com 

Transform your referral workflow with Referral Lab, the purpose-built platform for dental specialists to track, manage and convert every referral. Request a demo at referrallab.io 

Cameron Full
Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Cameron Full, co-founder of Referral Lab, is a strategic problem-solver with expertise in business management and digital solutions. He combines leadership, creativity, and technology to drive success across various industries.

Connect with Cameron on LinkedIn

Jason Souyias, DDS
Periodontist and Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Dr. Jason Souyias is a periodontist, educator, and co-founder of Referral Lab software. He teaches dentists and hygienists, including as a Pikos Institute faculty member. In his Port Huron private practice, he's known for excellent patient communication and experience. He's passionate about his work and dedicated to helping other dentists.

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Dr. Chris Catalano started early, mopping floors at veneer courses and absorbing everything. Working alongside some of cosmetic dentistry’s biggest names, he learned through failure and built a practice patients rave about today.

Reflecting on what it means to be a “safe beginner,” Dr. Catalano’s special list includes lessons from a practice collapse that reshaped his vision, and why vision boards, mentorship, and resilience matter as much as technical skill. 

For Dr. Catalano, dentistry is about more than veneers and esthetics—it’s about building raving fans like you would in any great business, leaning on your community, and remembering human connection will take you farther than textbooks ever will.

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Chris Catalano, DDS
Cosmetic Dentist, Owner of Chris Catalano Cosmetic Dentistry

Dr. Chris Catalano was born and raised in Marin County, where he now practices cosmetic dentistry. He graduated from the University of the Pacific Arthur A. Dugoni School of Dentistry in 1991 and immediately dove into continuing education in cosmetic dentistry, learning from some of the field’s top leaders. Over time, he began giving back by teaching in hands-on veneer programs. He also held a unique associate position with Dr. David Hornbrook, a pioneer in cosmetic dental education, which allowed him to travel and learn extensively under his mentorship.

Learn more about Kentfield cosmetic dentist Dr. Chris Catalano

Follow Dr. Catalano on Instagram @drchriscatalano

The Special Lists, presented by Referral Lab, is the podcast for dentists and dental specialists.

Running a dental practice isn’t easy, and if you’re in private practice, it can sometimes feel like you’re on an island. That’s why finding your people—those who’ve been in your shoes and can share real, lived experience—changes the game.

Referral Lab was built specifically for dental specialists, helping you track, manage, and convert every referral. It’s about improving case acceptance, boosting team performance, and strengthening relationships with referring providers so your whole practice runs smarter.

This spirit of connection fuels The Special Lists podcast. Hosted by the team behind Referral Lab, we bring you wisdom from practice owners and dental professionals, sharing the wins, mistakes, and lessons that shape how they run their businesses today.

Got a question for us? Send us a message at speciallists.com 

Transform your referral workflow with Referral Lab, the purpose-built platform for dental specialists to track, manage and convert every referral. Request a demo at referrallab.io 

Cameron Full
Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Cameron Full, co-founder of Referral Lab, is a strategic problem-solver with expertise in business management and digital solutions. He combines leadership, creativity, and technology to drive success across various industries.

Connect with Cameron on LinkedIn

Jason Souyias, DDS
Periodontist and Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Dr. Jason Souyias is a periodontist, educator, and co-founder of Referral Lab software. He teaches dentists and hygienists, including as a Pikos Institute faculty member. In his Port Huron private practice, he's known for excellent patient communication and experience. He's passionate about his work and dedicated to helping other dentists.

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Dr. Mitch Godat never planned on becoming a dentist, but a life-changing accident at 14 set him on a path to periodontics and dental implants. He looks back on his career, from joining Dr. P.D. Miller’s practice to learning why mentorship and community matter just as much as clinical skill.

Learn about the value of mastermind groups where peers share challenges, swap strategies, and lean on one another when practice ownership feels heavy. Hear how post-COVID dynamics have shifted the way teams connect, why structured meetings and core values keep a practice grounded, and how celebrating patient milestones can boost both morale and referrals.

For Dr. Godat, success in dentistry comes down to people. Mentorship is a responsibility to pass on, mastermind groups keep professionals inspired, and genuine care keeps patients coming back. In a world where AI is on the rise, he argues that human connection will always be the competitive edge.

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Mitchel Godat, DDS
Partner, SGA Dental Partners and President, Periodontal Associates of Memphis

After a traumatic accident at 14 left him with multiple injuries, including extensive broken bones and dental trauma, Dr. Godat knew he wanted to help heal people. With this in mind, he dedicated himself to the study and practice of periodontics and dental implants to help restore healthy smiles to patients. In 2000, he joined Periodontal Associates of Memphis, the office of The Father of Periodontal Plastic Surgery Dr. P.D. Miller.

Learn more about Memphis periodontist Dr. Mitch Godat

Follow Dr. Godat on Instagram @mitch_godat_dds_ms

The Special Lists, presented by Referral Lab, is the podcast for dentists and dental specialists.
Running a dental practice isn’t easy, and if you’re in private practice, it can sometimes feel like you’re on an island. That’s why finding your people—those who’ve been in your shoes and can share real, lived experience—changes the game.

Referral Lab was built specifically for dental specialists, helping you track, manage, and convert every referral. It’s about improving case acceptance, boosting team performance, and strengthening relationships with referring providers so your whole practice runs smarter.

This spirit of connection fuels The Special Lists podcast. Hosted by the team behind Referral Lab, we bring you wisdom from practice owners and dental professionals, sharing the wins, mistakes, and lessons that shape how they run their businesses today.

Got a question for us? Send us a message at speciallists.com 

Transform your referral workflow with Referral Lab, the purpose-built platform for dental specialists to track, manage and convert every referral. Request a demo at referrallab.io 

Cameron Full
Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Cameron Full, co-founder of Referral Lab, is a strategic problem-solver with expertise in business management and digital solutions. He combines leadership, creativity, and technology to drive success across various industries.

Connect with Cameron on LinkedIn

Jason Souyias, DDS
Periodontist and Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Dr. Jason Souyias is a periodontist, educator, and co-founder of Referral Lab software. He teaches dentists and hygienists, including as a Pikos Institute faculty member. In his Port Huron private practice, he's known for excellent patient communication and experience. He's passionate about his work and dedicated...

Dr. Rob Ritter has spent decades proving that dentistry is so much more than drilling and filling. It’s leadership, branding, and running a small business that actually thrives.

Since the early ’90s, he’s watched the profession change and has built a career on mastering his craft, protecting his brand, and never lowering his standards. His course, The Protocol, bridges the gap between what dental school teaches and what the real world demands.

He’s blunt about the challenges facing today’s dentists—student debt, insurance headaches, and the steep learning curve of business ownership—and why mentorship is the key to growth.
Dr. Ritter breaks down why strong GP-specialist communication drives better patient outcomes, why branding is about every touchpoint (not just your logo), and why a cohesive, empowered team is your best business asset.

For him, excellence means blending clinical skill with business savvy and protecting your reputation at all costs, because your name is your brand, and that’s the one thing you can’t get back.

GUEST

Rob Ritter, DMD
Dentist & Co-Owner of The Protocol

For over 27 years, Dr. Rob Ritter has been a restorative dentist in Jupiter, Florida. He’s spent thousands of hours on continuing education, which has helped his practice flourish. For more than two decades, Dr. Ritter has also lectured nationally and internationally, sharing his expertise with other dentists. He's a graduate of both the Kois Center and Spear Education and holds fellowships and memberships in numerous prestigious dental organizations.

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Follow Dr. Rob Ritter on Instagram @drrobritter

The Special Lists, presented by Referral Lab, is the podcast for dentists and dental specialists.
Running a dental practice isn’t easy, and if you’re in private practice, it can sometimes feel like you’re on an island. That’s why finding your people—those who’ve been in your shoes and can share real, lived experience—changes the game.

Referral Lab was built specifically for dental specialists, helping you track, manage, and convert every referral. It’s about improving case acceptance, boosting team performance, and strengthening relationships with referring providers so your whole practice runs smarter.

This spirit of connection fuels The Special Lists podcast. Hosted by the team behind Referral Lab, we bring you wisdom from practice owners and dental professionals, sharing the wins, mistakes, and lessons that shape how they run their businesses today.

Got a question for us? Send us a message at speciallists.com 

Transform your referral workflow with Referral Lab, the purpose-built platform for dental specialists to track, manage and convert every referral. Request a demo at referrallab.io 

Cameron Full
Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Cameron Full, co-founder of Referral Lab, is a strategic problem-solver with expertise in business management and digital solutions. He combines leadership, creativity, and technology to drive success across various industries.

Connect with Cameron on LinkedIn

Michael Seda, DMD, MS
Periodontist and Co-Developer of Referral Lab

Dr. Michael Seda is a laser-trained periodontist serving Marin County and San Francisco. As part of an elite group offering FDA-cleared laser...

Dr. Jennifer Doobrow knows leadership isn’t just a fancy title—it’s a lifelong grind of learning, serving, and owning your actions.

From running the playground in elementary school to shaping the future of dentistry in Alabama as president of the Alabama Dental Association, she’s dedicated herself to mentoring, facing challenges head-on, and keeping her ego in check.

She breaks down why transparency is the ultimate trust-builder in organized dentistry and why analytics, referrals, and ongoing education are the real game-changers for a practice.

For Dr. Doobrow, great leaders show up for their community, stay just uncomfortable enough to keep leveling up, and lead by example, because if you want your team to change, it starts with you.

GUEST

Jennifer Hirsch Doobrow, DMD
Owner and CEO of Periodontal and Implant Associates and President of Alabama Dental Association

Dr. Jennifer Hirsch Doobrow, a Board-Certified Periodontist, is the Owner and CEO of Periodontal and Implant Associates, Inc. located in Cullman, AL. She earned her DMD at the Medical University of South Carolina in 2007 and received her certification in Periodontics from the University of Alabama at Birmingham (UAB) in 2010. She serves as the President for the Alabama Dental Association (ALDA), Immediate Past-President for the Southern Academy of Periodontology (SAP) , Board of Trustee, American Academy of Periodontology, faculty member for the Pikos Institute.

Learn more about Alabama periodontist Dr. Jennifer Doobrow

Follow Dr. Doobrow’s practice on Instagram @cullmanperio

The Special Lists, presented by Referral Lab, is the podcast for dentists and dental specialists.
Running a dental practice isn’t easy, and if you’re in private practice, it can sometimes feel like you’re on an island. That’s why finding your people—those who’ve been in your shoes and can share real, lived experience—changes the game.

Referral Lab was built specifically for dental specialists, helping you track, manage, and convert every referral. It’s about improving case acceptance, boosting team performance, and strengthening relationships with referring providers so your whole practice runs smarter.

This spirit of connection fuels The Special Lists podcast. Hosted by the team behind Referral Lab, we bring you wisdom from practice owners and dental professionals, sharing the wins, mistakes, and lessons that shape how they run their businesses today.

Got a question for us? Send us a message at speciallists.com 

Transform your referral workflow with Referral Lab, the purpose-built platform for dental specialists to track, manage and convert every referral. Request a demo at referrallab.io 

Cameron Full
Co-Founder of Referral Lab

Cameron Full, co-founder of Referral Lab, is a strategic problem-solver with expertise in business management and digital solutions. He combines leadership, creativity, and technology to drive success across various industries.

Connect with Cameron on LinkedIn

Michael Seda, DMD, MS
Periodontist and Co-Developer of Referral Lab

Dr. Michael Seda is a laser-trained periodontist serving Marin County and San Francisco. As part of an elite group offering FDA-cleared laser gum treatment, he focuses on patient-centered care, advanced technology, and personalized treatment plans.

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