In this episode, joined by guest Mike Jones, we explore the psychology of business owners; what drives us, what holds us back, and how our mindset can be both our greatest strength and our biggest obstacle. We discuss the unique pressures that come with leading a business, from managing risk and control to balancing ambition with well-being. Drawing on insights from experience and behavioural science, we reflect on why many of us find it difficult to let go, delegate effectively, or truly enjoy the process of running a company, even when it’s thriving.
Chapters:
00:00:00 – Introduction & The SME Growth Podcast 3rd anniversary
00:04:00 – The 6 Box Model and what comes next
00:07:00 – Guest intro: Mike Jones & The Happy Business Revolution
00:10:00 – Understanding the founder mindset and risk
00:15:00 – Control, delegation, and the fear of letting go
00:22:00 – Ego, identity, and emotional resilience
00:30:00 – Finding happiness in business and redefining success
00:35:00 – Final reflections & key takeaways
Key Topics Discussed:
- The psychology and mindset of business owners and founders
- Why many entrepreneurs struggle to delegate and let go
- Balancing risk, control, and emotional investment in the business
- The link between ego and the company’s identity
- How to find happiness and meaning in running a business
- The importance of reframing problems as part of the growth process
- Lessons from behavioural science and practical leadership experience
Who This Episode Is For:
This episode is for business owners, founders, and senior leaders in SMEs who want to understand the deeper, human side of entrepreneurship. It’s especially relevant for those who feel the strain of leadership, balancing the need for control with the desire for growth, and who want to create happier, more sustainable businesses without losing themselves in the process.
Quotes to Remember:
“There’s this paradox that as business owners, we are much more comfortable with risk than the average population”.
“What’s the point in having a business unless it’s going to make you happy?”
“The game of business isn’t to get rid of your problems, it’s to replace current problems with new ones”.
Actionable Takeaways:
1.) Acknowledge your psychology: Recognise that fear of failure or loss of control is natural, but it doesn’t have to dictate your actions.
2.) Detach your ego: Your business’s success or failure isn’t a reflection of your personal worth.
3.) Accept imperfection: Mistakes are part of growth; allow others to make them and learn.
4.) Prioritise meaning: Build a business that brings happiness and purpose, not just financial return.
5.) Reframe problems: See them as the healthy by-product of progress, not signs of failure.
6.) Celebrate wins: Begin meetings by recognising what’s gone well before tackling challenges.
🎓 SME Growth Podcast Homework: Further Reading & Resources
The Happy Business Revolution by Mike Jones:
👉 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Happy-Business-Revolution-business-customers/dp/1781338701
The Happiness Trap by Dr Russ Harris:
👉 https://thehappinesstrap.com/free-resources/
The Path of Least Resistance by Robert Fritz:
👉 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Path-Least-Resistance-Robert-Fritz/dp/0449903370
Poor Charlie’s Almanack by Charlie Munger, referenced through Munger’s timeless idea:
👉 https://www.amazon.co.uk/Poor-Charlies-Almanack-Essential-Charles/dp/1953953239
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