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The Score
Eric Jimenez & Justin McLean
121 episodes
1 week ago
Send us a text 🎙 Episode 120: Christopher Herrero – The Art of Band is the Art of War This week on The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Christopher Herrero, Director of Bands at the legendary Edna Karr High School in New Orleans. 🔥 A proud Karr alum and the first Latino Tuba Section Leader at Jackson State University, Herrero returned home to lead the very program that shaped him—reviving its legacy, growing student membership, and infusing new purpose into every rehearsal. 💡 From the bat...
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Send us a text 🎙 Episode 120: Christopher Herrero – The Art of Band is the Art of War This week on The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Christopher Herrero, Director of Bands at the legendary Edna Karr High School in New Orleans. 🔥 A proud Karr alum and the first Latino Tuba Section Leader at Jackson State University, Herrero returned home to lead the very program that shaped him—reviving its legacy, growing student membership, and infusing new purpose into every rehearsal. 💡 From the bat...
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The Score
Ep. 120-Christopher Herrero- The Art of Band is the Art of War
Send us a text 🎙 Episode 120: Christopher Herrero – The Art of Band is the Art of War This week on The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Christopher Herrero, Director of Bands at the legendary Edna Karr High School in New Orleans. 🔥 A proud Karr alum and the first Latino Tuba Section Leader at Jackson State University, Herrero returned home to lead the very program that shaped him—reviving its legacy, growing student membership, and infusing new purpose into every rehearsal. 💡 From the bat...
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1 week ago
52 minutes

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Ep. 119- Dr. Derrick Fox- If It Is To Be, It Is Up To Me
Send us a text In this powerful and reflective episode of The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Dr. Derrick Fox (@singingingfox1), Associate Dean of Graduate Studies, Research, and Creative Endeavors and Associate Director of Choral Programs at the Michigan State University College of Music. Dr. Fox opens up about his journey as a leader, educator, and artist — exploring how self-determination, intentionality, and community have shaped his path. From navigating barriers as a Black musician...
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1 month ago
53 minutes

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Ep. 118- Daniel Flores (@trumpetpapi) - Más Que Música: Identity & Accessibility in Music Education
Send us a text 🎙 Episode 118: Más Que Música – Identity & Accessibility in Music Education In this week’s episode of The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Daniel Flores (@trumpetpapi) — musician, content creator, and advocate for culturally rooted music education. Daniel shares his journey growing up in underfunded, majority-Hispanic music programs, and how those early experiences shaped his passion for making music more accessible and meaningful for all students. From starting the fir...
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1 month ago
47 minutes

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Ep. 117- Classroom Culture and Discipline- Without Killing the Joy
Send us a text This week on The Score, Eric and Justin dive into one of the toughest balancing acts in music education: creating strong classroom culture and managing discipline—without losing the spark that makes music joyful. 🔥 From setting expectations on Day 1 to navigating those inevitable tough moments, Eric and Justin share real stories, lessons learned, and strategies that keep students accountable and inspired. 💡 Whether you’re a new teacher building your first program or a veteran d...
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2 months ago
42 minutes

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Ep. 116: Back to School in Music Ed – Lessons from the Podium and the Classroom
Send us a text The Score is kicking off the school year with fresh energy and new perspectives! Eric and Justin are back to talk about what it really takes to start strong—whether you’re leading a high school ensemble, shaping young minds in elementary, or finding your rhythm as a new teacher. 🎯 In this episode, Justin shares his journey transitioning from secondary to elementary music teaching—what’s surprised him, what’s challenged him, and the lessons he’s already learned. Eric brings insi...
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2 months ago
41 minutes

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Ep. 115- We’re Back: Music Ed, Leadership, and What’s Next
Send us a text After a brief break, The Score is back in full effect! Eric and Justin reunite at the mics to reflect, recharge, and refocus on what matters most: music education, leadership, and building spaces where all students thrive. 🎯 In this episode, we unpack where we’ve been, what’s changed in the world of education, and why this next chapter feels more urgent—and more exciting—than ever. 💬 From burnout to breakthroughs, we’re getting real about the challenges educators face and the r...
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3 months ago
48 minutes

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Ep. 114- Relative Pitch x The Score Podcast Collab: Don't Talk About It, Be About It
Send us a text Our first collab with The Relative Pitch Podcast! Support the show Connect with us on Facebook, Twitter & Instagram: @podthescore Email: podthescore@gmail.com | The Score Podcast Website Support The Score on Patreon or Paypal Music Credits: Intro: Justin McLean In Rotation & Outro: Ben Bohorquez - @jamin_music
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1 year ago
1 hour 13 minutes

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Ep. 113- Dr. Ruben James Alcala- NOT QUITE: The Quest for Identity in Music Education
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get to interview Dr. Ruben James Alcala. Dr. Alcala serves as the Vocal and Elementary Music Coordinator for Fort Worth ISD. Listen in as we journey through a decorated career and the genesis story of how music changed his career trajectory. This conversation paints a beautiful picture of Dr. Alcala’s journey that fuels his convictions and has made his quest more impactful for the students he serves. Please check out this week's episode t...
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1 year ago
55 minutes

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Ep. 112- Caring for Students Post-High School: Shining a Light on Authentic Relationships
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a conversation about the longevity of relationships built with students that extend beyond the band hall. We, as music educators, have a great opportunity to invest in our kids for now and for years down the road. Both Eric and Justin recall moments that have afforded them a place to still have the space to continue to pour and mentor. This episode is to inspire and help all of our listeners see the opportunity we have to contin...
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1 year ago
40 minutes

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Ep. 111: Dr. A. Jan Taylor- Mentorship in the 21st Century: Guiding Music Educators in a Digital World
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation with a world-class educator who invested in the lives of both Eric and Justin. This episode features the well-decorated Dr. A. Jan Taylor. Dr. Taylor has taught at every level and achieved great success. And was the former Choral Director and music professor at Prairie View A&M University. Since her retirement in 2020, she has still been in heavy demand as a clinician, mentor, and sage of wisdom for ...
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1 year ago
54 minutes

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Ep. 110: Adam Chitta- Deaf Students CAN be succesful in music!
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into a beautiful conversation meeting the needs of every student. Specifically, our deaf students make up our various musical ensembles. To help us fully grasp this nuance, we had the pleasure of engaging with Mr. Adam Chitta. Mr. Chitta is the founder and owner of The Chitta Sound and an accomplished band director at North East ISD in San Antonio. In this dialogue, Adam raises awareness and gives proper tools as a deaf band director...
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1 year ago
50 minutes

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Ep. 109- Authenticity is the NAME of the Game: Developing a Strong Care for the Names of the Kids We Teach
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin dive into the beauty of a name. Not just any name but specifically the students' names in our programs. There is something to be said about getting a child's name right. Listen in as both Eric and Justin discuss how we can make something so significant seem insignificant. There is confidence, care, and authenticity when we, as educators, aim to get our students' names correct. It's a great reminder that another school year is ramping up. ...
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1 year ago
51 minutes

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Ep. 108- Sean Rodriguez- This and That: A Mariachi Directing Choir
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the great opportunity to connect with Mr. Sean Rodriguez. Mr. Rodriguez is the choir director at Southwest Legacy High School in San Antonio. Sean has such an interesting story of his journey into music, which continues to shape his purpose as a director. Listen in as both Eric and Justin pull back the layers of how Sean has made sure not to ignore his mariachi love and ability to be absent from his role in developing his choral kids....
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1 year ago
54 minutes

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Ep. 107-After the Ratings: How to Prepare for Next Year
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss the aftermath of the results. What do you do once the scores have been given and the final festival or adjudication performance has finished? It is such a hectic time of rehearsals, sectionals, and clinics that once the final note has been played, all you really want to do is just get away. So listen in as both hosts talk about what comes next and how there is still growth, development, and knowledge to be gained. It’s a conversat...
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1 year ago
42 minutes

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Ep. 106: Protecting Your Peace: Balancing Demands in Music Education
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss the overworked and ever-tired aspect of music education. Both Eric and Justin walk down memory lane and remember the pivotal moments of their careers that raised a flag towards self-care. Listen in as the discussion of peace and the ways we can meet that need by reimagining the old way of working towards a more redeeming and intentional model. In Rotation: Eric- Obed Padilla Justin- Jairus Mozee- 1968 Support the show...
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1 year ago
42 minutes

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Ep. 105- Seize Your Opportunity: Ricardo Brown
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin catch up with Professor Ricardo Brown. Ricardo Brown is the Associate Director of Athletic and Wind Bands at the University of Connecticut. He also serves as the Co-Caption Head of the Sacramento Mandarins Drum Corp. This has been a well overdue interview and it doesn’t disappoint. Listen in as Prof Brown delves into seizing opportunity in life and how that mantra created the fuel that has gotten him to every destination. This conversatio...
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1 year ago
1 hour 7 minutes

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Ep. 104: Beyond Words: Colleague Reactions to the Symphony of Well-Spoken Communication
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin jump back in the saddle with a much-needed conversation about the art of communication. Specifically how it can hinder student progress when not valued. Both Eric and Justin have experiences where their ability to articulate well was met with surprise instead of normalcy. Listen in as both hosts tackle the issue of communication in the classroom. They take a deep dive into how a teacher can either create an environment for confidence and ...
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1 year ago
42 minutes

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Ep. 103- The Hustle Outside of Music: Dr. Kelvin Jones
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin get the great opportunity to catch up with none other than Dr. Kelvin Jones. Dr. Jones is a world-class musician/educator and a product of The Jackson State University. He is the former director of the famous LSU Tiger band. Dr. Jones has since switched lanes and now resides in the world of real estate development and music consulting. Listen in as Dr. Jones discusses this new chapter of his career. This new hustle is nothing but the very...
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1 year ago
58 minutes

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Ep. 102- Head and Assistant Directors: A Match Forged Through Truth and Grace
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin discuss one of the most important relationships in the life of a band program. This relationship is none other than the head director and assistant director. This week's conversation pulls back the layers and exposes the elephant in the room: lack of unity and collaboration. Eric and Justin dive into the roles and what can hinder, and what can help. This dialogue will hopefully start the much-needed conversation and help bridge gaps in th...
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2 years ago
45 minutes

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Ep. 101- Dr. Andrew Hunter- This AND: Open to Innovation In a Traditional World
Send us a text In this week's episode, Eric and Justin bring in their brother from another mother, Dr. Andrew Hunter, Director of Bands at the University of Texas El Paso. Dr. Hunter brings his convictions in this conversation about the concept of innovation in a world that can sometimes be caught up in tradition. This dialogue is filled with healthy, thought-provoking concepts to help the students we teach push to a greater destination as music makers. Listen and take notes on how this passi...
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2 years ago
59 minutes

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Send us a text 🎙 Episode 120: Christopher Herrero – The Art of Band is the Art of War This week on The Score, Eric and Justin sit down with Christopher Herrero, Director of Bands at the legendary Edna Karr High School in New Orleans. 🔥 A proud Karr alum and the first Latino Tuba Section Leader at Jackson State University, Herrero returned home to lead the very program that shaped him—reviving its legacy, growing student membership, and infusing new purpose into every rehearsal. 💡 From the bat...