In this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, host and guest Andy Godwin take a deep dive into his decades-long musical journey through some of the most creative and heavy bands in the underground scene — Embodyment, The Famine, Pyrithion, and Hope Deferred. Andy reflects on the early days of Embodyment’s raw, deathcore beginnings and their bold transition into melodic and alternative territory, offering insight into the creative risks that defined the band’s evolution.
He shares rare stories from the road and studio, discusses the camaraderie and challenges within each band, and explores how his artistic approach has matured over time. Andy also opens up about the themes of faith, struggle, and perseverance that continue to influence his music. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering these bands for the first time, this episode paints a vivid picture of one musician’s passion for pushing boundaries and staying true to his vision in the ever-changing world of heavy music.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this two-part episode series of The Rumors Are True podcast, host Jeremy Gould welcomes all four members of Dighayzoose — Bil Brown, Dave Anderson, Jimmi Florez, and Phil Schlotterer — for an in-depth and entertaining conversation about one of the most inventive and fearless bands to come out of the early ’90s alternative scene.
Across both episodes, the band reflects on their origins in Kansas City, their time on R.E.X. Records, and the creative chaos that fueled albums like StruggleFish and MagentaMantaLoveTree. They share behind-the-scenes stories from recording sessions and touring days, exploring how their genre-bending blend of funk, punk, rock, and art-school experimentation set them apart from their peers.
The discussion also dives into their spiritual and artistic philosophies, the dynamics between band members, and the legacy of Dighayzoose’s wild, uncompromising vision. Whether you’re a longtime fan or discovering them for the first time, this two-part series is a must-listen for anyone interested in boundary-pushing music and the creative spirit that defined a generation.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredhasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould sits down with Rob Horner, former bassist for Zao and Gods, to talk about his time in two of the most influential bands in heavy music and the journey that shaped him along the way. Rob reflects on his years with Zao during a pivotal era for the band — a period that helped define the sound and spirit of early metalcore — and shares insights into the writing, touring, and community that surrounded that scene.
The conversation also dives into Rob’s post-Zao project, Gods, exploring how that band grew out of his desire to keep creating meaningful, emotionally honest music. Rob discusses his creative process, the lessons learned from the highs and challenges of life on the road, and what it was like to be part of a scene that still resonates deeply with fans decades later.
With stories about friendship, art, and the evolution of underground heavy music, this episode offers a rare and candid look at one musician’s journey through two important chapters of the genre’s history.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork By Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould welcomes Mikee Bridges — musician, promoter, and creator of TomFest — to talk about his latest project, TomCon: The Other Music Convention. Mikee shares the inspiration behind this brand-new event happening October 24–25, 2025, at the Crowne Plaza in Costa Mesa, California, and how it aims to bring fans and artists together in a whole new way.
Listeners will hear Mikee reflect on his journey through bands like how decades of experience in the Christian alternative and punk scenes have shaped his vision for TomCon. Unlike a traditional music festival, TomCon is designed as a fan convention — complete with panels, Q&A sessions, artist meet-and-greets, photo ops, and live performances — celebrating the stories and community behind the music.
Throughout the conversation, Mikee talks about the heart behind the event, what attendees can expect from the two-day lineup of over 50 artists and 12 panel discussions, and why Costa Mesa is the perfect home for this gathering of fans, musicians, and scene veterans. Whether you were part of the underground music movement of the ’90s or are discovering it for the first time, this episode dives deep into what makes TomCon a truly one-of-a-kind experience.
For full details, artist announcements, and tickets, visit tomconvention.com.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music By Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we welcome Nate Young, drummer of the beloved alternative rock band Anberlin, as well as a driving creative force behind his side project, SUS. Nate takes us through his musical journey, sharing memories from Anberlin’s early days, the band’s rise to international success, and what it’s like to create music that connects deeply with fans across generations. He opens up about the band’s reunion years, how their chemistry has evolved, and the challenges and rewards of balancing life as a touring musician.
We also spend time exploring Nate’s work outside of Anberlin, particularly the artistic vision behind SUS. With this project, he leans into experimentation, crafting soundscapes that allow him to express a different side of his creativity. Nate talks about the freedom of writing and recording in new ways, and how SUS has become an outlet for exploring ideas that don’t always fit within the framework of Anberlin.
This conversation is equal parts nostalgic and forward-looking — offering insight into what it takes to remain passionate about making music over decades, while still pushing into new creative territory. Whether you’re a longtime Anberlin fan or curious to hear about Nate’s newest artistic chapters, this episode is a must-listen.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features a conversation with Chris Higdon, the voice and creative force behind some of the most beloved bands to come out of Louisville, Kentucky, including Elliott, Falling Forward, and his latest project, Mirroless. Chris reflects on the early days of the hardcore and emo scene, tracing how Falling Forward laid the groundwork for Elliott’s expansive and emotionally charged sound that would go on to influence countless bands.
The discussion digs into the stories behind the songs, the friendships and struggles that shaped the music, and what it was like to be part of such a pivotal moment in underground music history. Chris also opens up about his newest work with Mirroless, exploring the ways he continues to challenge himself musically and lyrically. Whether you’ve followed his journey since the ’90s or are just discovering his music, this episode offers an insightful look at the artistry, heart, and longevity of someone who has helped define a genre while always moving forward.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, Kevin Campbell from the band Keepwarm joins the conversation for a deep dive into his musical journey. Kevin opens up about the origins of Keepwarm, what inspired their sound, and how the band found its place in a vibrant underground scene. He reflects on the highs and lows of making music during that time and what it was like to collaborate with the friends who helped bring the project to life.
The discussion also touches on the broader context of the era—how bands like Keepwarm carved out their identity, navigated limited resources, and connected with fans in authentic ways. Kevin shares stories from the road, lessons learned in the DIY world, and how his experiences in Keepwarm continue to shape his outlook on creativity and music today.
Whether you’re a longtime fan of Keepwarm or discovering them for the first time, this episode offers a meaningful look back at a unique chapter of independent music. Kevin’s perspective is equal parts nostalgic and inspiring, making it a conversation worth tuning into for anyone who appreciates the passion behind building music that matters.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Stephen Williams, known for his work with the band Jude Moses as well as playing alongside John Mark McMillan. Stephen shares stories from his journey in music, reflecting on his time creating with Jude Moses and how the band developed its unique sound, as well as his experiences touring and collaborating with McMillan. His perspective offers listeners a glimpse into both the creative process and the realities of being part of two different but deeply impactful musical worlds.
In this conversation, Stephen dives into the themes of artistry, community, and the balance between personal expression and collaboration. Whether discussing songwriting, life on the road, or the moments that have shaped his path, his reflections highlight the ways music continues to inspire and connect people. Fans of Jude Moses, John Mark McMillan, or anyone who enjoys hearing the stories behind the music will find this episode full of insight and inspiration.
Produce By Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast welcomes Dan Koch, known for his work in Sherwood, Havana Swim Club, and as the host of multiple thoughtful podcasts including You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Dan shares stories from his journey in the music world, from his time as guitarist and songwriter in Sherwood to his newer creative explorations in electronic music and production with Havana Swim Club. Along the way, he reflects on how his experiences in the industry have shaped his perspective as both a musician and a creator of meaningful conversations.
Beyond the music, the episode dives into Dan’s passion for podcasts and the unique space he’s built through shows like You Have Permission and Pretty Good Vibrations. Listeners will get a deeper look at how he bridges creativity, curiosity, and connection across mediums—whether through a catchy melody, a textured beat, or an engaging discussion. It’s an inspiring conversation that highlights Dan’s versatility and his commitment to exploring both art and ideas.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast, we’re joined by Dave Swanson, best known for his work with Life In Your Way and The Frozen Ocean. Dave shares stories from his time in the Connecticut hardcore/metalcore scene and how Life In Your Way grew to become a band that blended heavy music with heartfelt and faith-driven lyrics. He reflects on the unique journey of the band, their impact within the scene, and what it was like to be part of a community that emphasized passion and authenticity as much as the music itself.
The conversation also dives into his later project, The Frozen Ocean, where Dave explored a more atmospheric and expansive sound that showcased another side of his creativity. He opens up about the transition from the intensity of hardcore to more melodic and ambient songwriting, and how those experiences shaped him both musically and personally. Fans of his bands and those curious about the evolution of underground music will enjoy this deep dive into Dave’s story, his creative process, and the lasting connections that music has built along the way.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast features an in-depth conversation with Ben Crist, the voice and songwriter of The Glorious Unseen. Known for crafting raw, atmospheric worship music that spoke to a generation hungry for honesty, Ben shares the story of how the band came together and the heart behind their deeply emotional songs. He talks about the unique balance of creating music that felt authentic both as worship and as art, as well as the challenges of navigating faith, creativity, and personal struggles along the way.
The episode also highlights the impact of their standout releases, including Tonight the Stars Speak and The Hope That Lies in You, albums that gave us unforgettable songs like “Hear Our Prayers,” “Meet Me Where I’m At,” and “Burn in Me.” Ben reflects on what inspired much of this music, the ways it connected with listeners in raw and vulnerable moments, and the lasting influence The Glorious Unseen continues to carry today. Fans of heartfelt storytelling and those who found solace in the band’s music will enjoy hearing Ben’s reflections, behind-the-scenes insights, and thoughts on where life and music have taken him since.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
This episode of The Rumors Are True Podcast brings Milam Byers, Davy Baysinger, and Sam Barnhart from the influential rock band Bleach for a deep and heartfelt conversations. The guys open up about the band’s beginnings in Nashville, their creative process in the studio, and what it was like carving out their place in the late ‘90s/early 2000s alternative rock world. They share road stories, the ups and downs of touring, and the experiences that shaped them both as musicians and as friends.
Listeners will also hear about the band’s connection to their fans, how their music continues to resonate years later, and what it meant to be part of such a pivotal moment in underground and faith-driven music. With plenty of laughter, nostalgia, and honest reflection, this episode paints a vivid picture of Bleach’s journey and why their songs still matter today.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this special three-part series of The Rumors Are True, host Jeremy Alan Gould sits down with Sam Barnhart, Davy Baysinger, and Milam Byers of the beloved alt-rock band Bleach for an unforgettable deep-dive into their story. Across these episodes, the band opens up about their early days cutting their teeth in the late ’90s scene, the friendships and creative spark that fueled their music, and the highs and lows of life on the road. They share honest reflections on personal loss, the challenges of sustaining a band, and the bittersweet decision to step away from the spotlight. With a mix of heartfelt storytelling, candid humor, and behind-the-scenes memories, the trio recounts how time apart led to growth—and what ultimately brought them back together for an emotional and inspiring reunion. Whether you’re a lifelong Bleach fan or discovering their music for the first time, these conversations capture the heart, soul, and enduring legacy of a band that left an indelible mark on their listeners and on the alternative rock landscape.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this special three-part series of The Rumors Are True, we’re honored to welcome Davy Baysinger, Sam Barnhart, and Milam Byers from the beloved alt-rock band Bleach to celebrate their long-anticipated reunion. As a cornerstone of the late ’90s and early 2000s alternative and Christian rock scenes, Bleach built a reputation for honest, emotional songwriting, anthemic guitar-driven sound, and high-energy live shows that left a lasting impression on fans around the world. In these episodes, the guys open up about the band’s origins, the unique chemistry that brought them together, and the journey through success, personal loss, creative shifts, and eventual disbandment. They reflect deeply on what the band meant to them then—and what it means now—as they revisit the passion and purpose that inspired them to make music in the first place. We also talk about the heart behind their reunion, the unexpected spark that brought them back to the stage, and the renewed connection they feel with each other and their fans. Whether you’ve been singing along since Static or Again, For the First Time, or you’re just now discovering Bleach, these episodes offer a raw, heartfelt, and often hilarious look at the life of a band that never really left our hearts.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
On this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we welcome Brandon Mullins, vocalist of the post-hardcore band Across Five Aprils and metalcore outfit Embraced. Brandon takes us back to the early 2000s underground scene, where both bands made their mark with emotionally intense lyrics, chaotic live shows, and a DIY spirit that resonated with fans across the country. He talks about joining Across Five Aprils, recording their breakthrough releases like A Tragedy in Progress, and the evolution of the band’s sound and lineup over the years.
We also explore his earlier days with Embraced, a band known for blending melodic elements with brutal heaviness, and how that experience shaped his approach as a frontman. Brandon shares honest reflections on touring life, navigating the ups and downs of the music industry at a young age, and how it felt to step away from it all. He also opens up about his reconnection with music years later, the lasting friendships from those years, and the legacy of both bands in the scene.
Whether you were stage-diving at a VFW hall back in the day or discovering these bands for the first time, this is a deep and personal conversation you won’t want to miss.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we welcome Dan Bonebrake, a key figure in the South Florida underground music scene and a seasoned musician known for his work with Dashboard Confessional, The Vacant Andys, Seville, War Generation, and more. Dan dives deep into his musical journey, tracing his roots in the 1990s alternative and emo scenes and offering a personal perspective on the cultural moment that helped launch Dashboard Confessional into the national spotlight.
He shares stories from his time in The Vacant Andys—one of the foundational bands in the scene—and how that experience connected him with Chris Carrabba. Dan discusses the formation of Seville, a short-lived but beloved project, and how it became a key bridge between the early South Florida sound and the evolving emo genre. He also talks about his later work in War Generation and other creative pursuits over the years, giving listeners a glimpse into both the highs and challenges of life as a working musician.
Whether you’re a longtime fan or just discovering this era of alternative music, Dan brings honesty, insight, and a wealth of behind-the-scenes stories to this can't-miss conversation.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork By Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, we’re joined by two voices from the world of music podcasting: Dana Bollen from Two Week Notice and Andrew Mall from Live Free or DIY. Dana shares stories from his time as a tour manager for Piebald, as well as behind-the-scenes insights from his popular podcast, which has featured a wide range of artists from the alternative and punk scenes. Andrew, a scholar and author of God Rock, Inc., brings his unique perspective on faith, DIY culture, and underground music communities, as explored through his own podcast. Together, they talk about podcasting, their shared love for music, and the sometimes overlooked spaces where faith, fandom, and creativity intersect. A fun, thoughtful conversation you won’t want to miss.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
In this episode of The Rumors Are True podcast, legendary frontman Les Carlsen of the pioneering Christian metal band Bloodgood joins the show for a powerful and heartfelt conversation. Les opens up about his musical journey—from his early days in theater and rock 'n' roll to fronting one of the most influential Christian metal bands of the 1980s and beyond.
Listeners will hear Les share stories of the early Bloodgood days, including how the band formed, their mission to combine faith and heavy metal, and the impact they made on stages across the country. He speaks candidly about his personal faith, the role of prayer in their music, and the deep spiritual purpose behind their performances.
The episode also explores Les’s recent solo work, including new music he’s releasing that continues to carry the same passion and message he's always been known for. He reflects on the legacy of Michael Bloodgood, his longtime bandmate and friend, and how his passing has shaped the future of the band and Les’s own creative vision moving forward.
This is a meaningful and inspiring conversation that offers a glimpse into the heart and soul of one of Christian metal’s most respected voices. Fans of Bloodgood and anyone interested in faith-driven artistry will find a lot to connect with in this episode.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
The Rumors Are True Podcast features a powerful and heartfelt conversation with Joe Musten, the legendary drummer and vocalist known for his work with Beloved, Advent, The Almost, Torn, and more. In this episode, Joe dives deep into his musical and personal journey—from the emotional weight and passion that shaped Beloved’s melodic hardcore sound, to the aggressive, no-holds-barred intensity of Advent, and his time playing drums with Aaron Gillespie in The Almost.
Joe talks about growing up in the North Carolina scene, the DIY roots of his early bands, and how faith, family, and personal struggle have shaped his approach to music and life. He shares stories of touring, breakups and reunions, mental health, and what drives him to keep creating honest, soul-stirring music even decades into his career.
Listeners will get an inside look at what it takes to stay true to yourself in an ever-changing scene and how Joe continues to use his voice—both literally and figuratively—to speak truth with conviction. Whether you’ve moshed in a sweaty club to Advent or cried to a Beloved breakdown, this episode is a raw, real, and redemptive look at one of hardcore’s most respected and enduring artists.
Produced by Wesley Hill @thebigwes
Artwork by Jared Chase Bowser @jaredchasebowser
Music by Brian Jerin R.I.P.
Special Episode: Moontraveling x Roster Music Club — A Crossover Celebration
This episode is truly something special. I’m honored to host a crossover between two of my absolute favorite podcasts: Moontraveling and Roster Music Club — each with its own distinct heart, voice, and deep love for music.
Moontraveling is hosted by Aaron Sprinkle (from legendary bands like Poor Old Lu, Fair, and Rose Blossom Punch) and Matthew Schwartz (of Pacifico and Pacifi Records). The show explores the emotional, spiritual, and often mysterious ways music shapes our lives. Their conversations are vulnerable, insightful, and always full of heart.
Roster Music Club, hosted by Joey and Jared Svendsen (you may know them from Bad Christian), is a deep-dive love letter to overlooked or underappreciated albums. Every episode feels like hanging out with old friends who absolutely love talking music—and who have the knowledge and passion to back it up.
As someone who’s been deeply impacted by both of these shows, this crossover means a lot to me personally. These are the kinds of podcasts that remind me why I fell in love with music in the first place—and why I keep falling for it again and again.
This episode is more than a conversation—it’s a celebration of community, creativity, and connection. I’m thrilled to bring these voices together for something truly one-of-a-kind.
Pls enjoy!